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Stumping for Delegates, Clinton Pledges Voting Rights to Guam

May 02, 2008 11:44 PM

Guam's four Democratic delegates (not to mention its five superdelegates) are up for grabs in Saturday's primary, and Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., has told residents of that Pacific territory that as president she will work to give them the right to vote for president. 

Residents of U.S. territories do not have the right to vote in presidential elections, nor do they have full representation in the U.S. Congress.

In an interview with KUAM-TV, Clinton, asked about giving Guam citizens the right to vote for president, said, "I am in favor of full voting rights for every American and that includes the people on Guam."

Watch the video HERE.

"It seems to me that it is long past time that we remedy this inequity," Clinton said. "It doesn't reflect American values; it is out of step with the move toward equality and full citizenship rights, and I will do everything I can to make sure the people of Guam's votes are counted. It seems to me that it is long past time that we remedy this inequity. It doesn't reflect American values; it is out of step with the move towards equality and full citizenship rights, and I will do everything I can to make sure the people of Guam's vote are counted."

Clinton also expressed her support for legislation to offer up to $126 million in reparations to Guam residents for their suffering during World War II at the hands of the Japanese military, which occupied the island. 

The U.S. would pay the reparations, since it long ago forgave Japan its war debts.

"I think sometimes it takes unfortunately longer than it should to educate people about the justice of a cause like war reparations, or for the people of Guam that suffered under the Japanese occupation during World War II," Clinton told the Guam TV station. "All these years later we still haven't provided the reparations that the people of Guam were promised. As your president, I will work very hard to remedy this injustice. I am committed to doing so."

Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, has expressed support for the reparations legislation as well.

- jpt

SATURDAY MORNING UPDATE: This morning I e-mailed the Clinton campaign to find out more about this pledge. I wrote: "Am interested in learning more about the senator's plan to give residents of Guam the right to vote in presidential elections. Would that mean making Guam a state? Bestowing citizenship upon these US nationals?  Same with Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands and American Samoa? Would they get Senators and full voting members of Congress? How about DC? Wouldn't this require major constitutional changes?"

Will let you know what they say.

SATURDAY EVENING UPDATE: They got back to me -- nine hours after I asked. Read their explanation HERE.

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Wow John Pen you are the defintion of ignorent in basicly everything you've written.

Hillary winning the democratic election is almost unrealistic at this point let alone the entire election.

In states like Texas after McCain was a sure win for the republican nominee you do know that republicans started switching sides to vote for Hillary because she is viewed as a much easier target to beat than Obama right? And she still lost that state.

She had a chance, and she lost it. Get over it.

Posted by: Scott | May 5, 2008 9:12:44 PM

"Bestowing citizenship upon these US nationals (from Guam)? Same with Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands..."

Somebody please tell Jake Tapper that the people of Guam, Puerto Rico, and the Virgin Islands are born U.S. Citizens.

Posted by: Greg | May 4, 2008 2:52:25 PM

YET ANOTHER CAUCUS IN GUAM THAT OBAMA WINS BY FRAUD AND INTIMIDATION.

THERE IS SUPPOSEDLY ONLY A 7 VOTE DIFFERENCE...BUT NOW THEY ARE GOING TO A RE-COUNT BECAUSE 500 VOTES WERE NOT COUNTED IN AN AREA WHERE HILLARY WON 63% OF THE VOTES.

OBAMA AND HIS THUGS HAVE TRIED TO FIX THIS CAUCUS LIKE THEY FIXED THE OTHER CAUCUSES WITH INTIMIDATION AND FRAUD.

HILLARY WILL BE PRESIDENT!

Posted by: John Pen | May 4, 2008 11:43:54 AM

YET ANOTHER CAUCUS IN GUAM THAT OBAMA WINS BY FRAUD AND INTIMIDATION.

THERE IS SUPPOSEDLY ONLY A 7 VOTE DIFFERENCE...BUT NOW THEY ARE GOING TO A RE-COUNT BECAUSE 500 VOTES WERE NOT COUNTED IN AN AREA WHERE HILLARY WON 63% OF THE VOTES.

OBAMA AND HIS THUGS HAVE TRIED TO FIX THIS CAUCUS LIKE THEY FIXED THE OTHER CAUCUSES WITH INTIMIDATION AND FRAUD.

HILLARY WILL BE PRESIDENT!

Posted by: John Pen | May 4, 2008 11:41:09 AM

Votes for Guam? As has been said, this is more pandering to the public by Clinton, and on a subject that would probably require a Constitutional amendment rather than something the President could bring to pass single-handedly. Considering the uproar over the "rights" illegal aliens that already exists promoting undeserved entitlement is not a good strategy for anyone to push at this point. If Guam wants the vote, let them apply for statehood per the Constitution and abide by the requirements for and responsibilities of a state. Just let them remember that it's a one-way trip (as the Civil War established).

Posted by: Publius | May 4, 2008 11:36:06 AM

I think its great that Obama was supposed to win Guam by at least 40%, but didnt! Only 7 votes separated them! Wow, Obama thought they would overwhelmingly vote for him because, like them, he was born on an island...lol. Clinton will win Indiana BIG since the state incorporated the law that the voters have to show a valid picture ID. 28% of the African American voters do not have a valid picture ID and can not get one before Tuesday. Added to this, the blue collar voters in the latest poll are not buying in on Obamas attempts to recruit them. Hillary will win Indiana. As far as North Carolina, since Obama was leading her by 30+ points at one time, now, the latest poll shows him up only 6pts., she could very well win North Carolina as well. Even if she loses, if its in the single digits which ALL the analayst are projecting, this will give her momentum. One analyst says if she wins Indiana and only loses by single digits in NC, this will cause the Super D's to rethink Obama's electability. If Hillary wins Indiana and North Carolina, the Super D's will be running to Clinton and it will be over for Obama. Hillary 08!


Posted by: david from texas | May 4, 2008 1:43:18 AM


HILLARY WILL BE OUR NEXT PRESIDENT!

Posted by: John Pen | May 4, 2008 10:31:19 AM

"ABC is putting on a free 1 hour commercial for Hillary Tonight, hosted by her husband's Campaign Advisor."

GREAT..I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT, WHAT TIME DOES IT COME ON TONIGHT?

SINCE OBAMA IS AFRAID TO DEBATE HILLARY FACE-TO-FACE....I APPLAUD ABC FOR SHOWING HILLARY TALK ABOUT WHAT SHE WILL DO WHEN SHE IS ELECTED PRESIDENT.

Posted by: John Pen | May 4, 2008 10:25:06 AM

ABC is putting on a free 1 hour commercial for Hillary Tonight, hosted by her husband's Campaign Advisor.

GREAT..I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT, WHAT TIME DOES IT COME ON TONIGHT?

SINCE OBAMA IS AFRAID TO DEBATE HILLARY FACE-TO-FACE....I APPLAUD ABC FOR SHOWING HILLARY TALK ABOUT WHAT SHE WILL DO WHEN SHE IS ELECTED PRESIDENT.

Posted by: John Pen | May 4, 2008 10:23:11 AM

Barry (obama) has not shown me anything the only thing he say's is Change. He can't take questions and answer them unless he is told of the question before hand and then has 3x5 cards in his hand.When your running for anything stuff is going to go back and fourth. But to me he is a CRY BABY. I would still like to ask his wife really one question Why are you now proud of this counry now ????? And as for Rev Wright u can't tell me that obama doesn't feel like Rev wright, you don't stay in that church for 20 yrs, and rev wright didn't just change what he believes. People wake up !!!

Posted by: Lynda | May 4, 2008 10:06:53 AM

BOYCOTT ABC and their Sponsors. They are putting on a free 1 hour commercial for Hillary Tonight, hosted by her husband's Campaign Advisor. Stephie also got a question fof the last debate from Sean Hannity.

BOYCOTT ABC NOW. Let them know your thoughts. Pass it On

Posted by: Glenn | May 4, 2008 9:28:51 AM

grace | May 3, 2008 1:40:05 PM writes in and sez: "Tomdavie, did many republicans switch registration to vote for him? Yes, he did. Did he work with republicans to get things accomplish? Yes, he did.

So tomdavie, Obama's comment is not pandering. It is the truth."

Look at Obama's voting record: http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=9490

NV stand for "not voting". Not voting for veterans, chilren's healthcare, implemetation of 9/11 commision recomendations, energy policy, trade agreements. Votes against border security, for abortion funding. Total non voting record in housing and property issues. Out of 20 oppurtunities
since 2005 to vote on health issues, he did not vote on 11 of the bills.

Helluva voting record. Really reaching across the aisle and looking out for the American people. What a sham. Keep drinking the Kool Aid.

Posted by: brwillham | May 4, 2008 8:59:51 AM

What's next with Hillary?
Is she going to promise states rights for North Carolinians when she's campaigning there next week?
Maybe, she'll promise a return to the Confederacy.
In Indiana, I expect her to promise to make basketball the national past time and find some way to claim to really be a Hoosier.
What can we expect next?
If Clinton wins the nomination, she will find a way to say she spent some time in a POW camp and has a better bowling average than McCain. (Remember McCain's arm movement is limited and likely bowls worse than Obama).
A couple of more promises Mrs. Clinton can make:
** An IPod in every pre-teens hands to get the parental vote.
** A promise to obliterate any country that just looks at us the wrong way.
** A free membership with the NRA including an autographed photo of Hillary in a duck blind holding her shotgun and pretending to use a duck call.
** Declare Monica Lewinsky an enemy combatant, sending her to Gitmo with only her stained blue dress to wear.
** Give Bill and Chelsea lessons on how to follow the message or else.

Posted by: Steve T | May 4, 2008 7:55:24 AM

There seems to be a lot of noise about the Reverend
Wright business. Let's look at it another way. Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and George W. Bush have been church goers for many years, and by all accounts, their pastors have been fine, upstanding, kind, and not angry. So why is Hillary Clinton a pathological liar, Bill Clinton an adulterer, and George W. Bush a war criminal and casual torturer? Clearly, their pastors have not done much to bring them to the straight and narrow path. Just how much influence, for ill or good, do pastors really have?

Posted by: FilmMD | May 4, 2008 4:46:16 AM

Camille. We all know Obama is 1/2 white and was actually raised white .

Unfortunately, at some point he DITCHED his white half, and embraced his african american side.

This is only unfortunate because to do so, he eventually met up with with Rev Wright, and then proceeded to practice Black Liberation Theology for the next 20 years.

The average american doenst know this yet. They still all think its about the crazy ol Rev Wright.

Wright might be ZANY , but he is only preachin the religion of his church. Black Liberation Theology.

When america finds out what this stuff is, they will not be impressed.

I think this is the issue that makes him unelectable in the general election.

Posted by: tomdavie | May 4, 2008 4:27:43 AM

I am not a Clinton supporter who think Obama is 'phony' or an anti american blah blah blah.

I think he is smart, charismatic, and the 'new guy in town' .

I also feel he is unqualified in experience and resume, and is a liberal.I dont like liberals as much as I dont like far right neo cons.

I am a reagan democrat. I thought Reagan was a great prez, and so was Clinton.

Im too conservative of a democrat for Obama.

It bothers me that he attracts the most vile element of the left to his cause on a continual basis. Even though I dont think he is as far left as some of his followers.

The bottom line is for me, Hillary is simply a better choice for president. She has a lot of experience on a national stage. She knows the issues far better than Obama. She has been thru all the wars.

I think Obama is unelectable because of some of his comments and his choice in church will probably cost him the white house.

Posted by: tomdavie | May 4, 2008 4:20:08 AM

It is only by God's providence that Hillary will win the election and become president. She is not God's prime choice of candidate, she has many faults, but God can make use this weakness, much like what happened to Saul on the way to Damascus, (Acts of the Apostles 9:3).Nothing is impossible for him.
After she has accepted the gift of repentance, then she will be put right with God and with the nation.
Obama, is a sinner also, but it is clear what Hillary stands for, Women's pro-choice for abortion etc an other issues., that God can do more for her and her followers that are in need of repentance, than what Obama's squeaky clean image stands for.

Posted by: Kiwi | May 4, 2008 4:07:22 AM

The only way I can see Guam obtaining the right to vote in the presidential election is if Puerto Rico and Guam both become states.

Posted by: Mike | May 4, 2008 2:04:06 AM

Maya Angelo, who endsorses Hillary, states the following:

I am inspired by her courage and her honesty. She is a reliable and trustworthy person. She is someone I not only admire but one for whom I have profound affection.

Hillary does not waver in standing up for those who need a champion. She has always been a passionate protector of families. As a child, she was taught that all God’s children are equal, and as a mother, she understood that her child wasn’t safe unless all children were safe. As I wrote about Hillary recently in a praise song: “She is the prayer of every woman, and every man who longs for fair play, healthy families, good schools and a balanced economy


This is what Hillary is all about. The next President of the United States, Hillary Clinton !

Posted by: david from texas | May 4, 2008 1:52:40 AM

If Hillary Clinton has to pay for all the promises she's made it will cost more than the Afgan and Iraq War. This is the most dishonest person who has come along in centuries. It is a different world, a different time, a different universal economy and the world will not be pandering to her. You can take that to the Bank!.

Posted by: Sharon | May 4, 2008 1:45:40 AM

I think its great that Obama was supposed to win Guam by at least 40%, but didnt! Only 7 votes separated them! Wow, Obama thought they would overwhelmingly vote for him because, like them, he was born on an island...lol. Clinton will win Indiana BIG since the state incorporated the law that the voters have to show a valid picture ID. 28% of the African American voters do not have a valid picture ID and can not get one before Tuesday. Added to this, the blue collar voters in the latest poll are not buying in on Obamas attempts to recruit them. Hillary will win Indiana. As far as North Carolina, since Obama was leading her by 30+ points at one time, now, the latest poll shows him up only 6pts., she could very well win North Carolina as well. Even if she loses, if its in the single digits which ALL the analayst are projecting, this will give her momentum. One analyst says if she wins Indiana and only loses by single digits in NC, this will cause the Super D's to rethink Obama's electability. If Hillary wins Indiana and North Carolina, the Super D's will be running to Clinton and it will be over for Obama. Hillary 08!

Posted by: david from texas | May 4, 2008 1:43:18 AM

will the media ever talk about the Peter Paul/Clintons scandal ?? ridiculous! google it!

Posted by: Lisa | May 4, 2008 1:26:41 AM

another reason why Hillary should not be trusted. she will say or do any thing to get votes.

Posted by: adam | May 4, 2008 1:24:05 AM

Look like American are opening their eyes and brains (ABC what you going to do)?

Posted by: t.v.eddie | May 4, 2008 12:04:38 AM

I don't care if he crawled across the finish line, he won. She didn't. Don't count him out. She hasn't sung yet!

Posted by: Tia | May 3, 2008 9:21:11 PM

This game is over, the media is now squarely on Clinton's side. Every news outlet acts as if Obama is not even in the race any more. "Clinton attacks .." "Clinton said ...", Clinton rips...", "Clinton dismisses ...." So why don't they just come out and say it.

"Vote Clinton for president we love her diviciveness, makes us relevant."

Posted by: Gillis | May 3, 2008 8:33:21 PM

Attention Delegates/Super-Delegates; Hillary stands for everything thats is Against, what the Democrats stand for!What true Democrat would Elect someone who has lied time and time again.I believe Hillary is a Republican Implant, that will Destroy that Democratic Party

Posted by: Demo Rules | May 3, 2008 8:11:55 PM

Senator Obama will easily beat John McCain in November. His crazy preacher or not, when Americans actually see the two of them side-by-side, and are reminded of the flaming disaster that the last eight years of a Republican president have been, John McCain will be soundly defeated.

There will also be significant Democratic gains in both the House and the Senate. No amount of swift-boating and racists whispers can stop the beating that's coming for the GOP in November.

We'll look back at April and wonder why we wasted all the energy on screaming about the former pastor of Obama's church.

Posted by: PopeRatzo | May 3, 2008 5:58:26 PM

If you're living outside the US, and were previously resident in one of the 50 states or DC, you can can vote from overseas in the presidential elections. Approximately six million Americans living abroad will be entitled to vote in November.

So while I'm not a Clinton supporter, she's right to note the anomaly: a US citizen in Canada or the UK or France who was previously a resident of a state has more voting rights than one who's spent a lifetime in Guam or Puerto Rico. In fact, a US citizen born abroad, who has never lived in the US, is often entitled to vote in the state where his/her parents last lived.

(Of course, most of those expatriate US citizens are white, while most of those living in the non-state parts of the US are black or brown.)

Posted by: pseudonymous in nc | May 3, 2008 5:53:35 PM

I have been waiting for months for Senator Obama's new, different and clean politics to show up in his campaign. And I will still be waiting when Hillary Clinton is sitting in the White House again.
He has practiced the same ole dirty politics that Chicago has had for 50 years. He learned the lessons well.

Posted by: Irish Gram | May 3, 2008 5:13:52 PM

Guess Guam do NOT want voting rights! Beter for US!!

Posted by: DaneNM | May 3, 2008 4:59:50 PM

So Much for that Voting Rights thing that HRC promised.

Hillary just announced that she no longer supports voting rights for Guam residents. She denies that her flip-flop has anything to do with the fact that Obama won Guam.

This round of pandering didn't work. Besides caucuses don't count anyway.

Posted by: TrueDem | May 3, 2008 4:58:46 PM

Clinton has the far better voting record reaching across party lines than Obama does. He was the most Liberal guy in the senate.

In other words, he voted his party more than ANY democrat. At all.

Mc cain reaches across the party lines more than Clinton though.

Posted by: tomdavie | May 3, 2008 4:29:42 PM

Pander, Pander, Pander....Hillary never stops...

Posted by: indy_voter | May 3, 2008 4:00:33 PM

The truth is simple:

If Clinton won Guam, she would be talking non-stop about the victory, and saying that the tide was in her favor.

Now that Obama is likely to win, according to CLinton Guam won't count and isn't important.

Posted by: bob | May 3, 2008 2:49:44 PM

Guam became a state when?

Posted by: rdotx | May 3, 2008 2:49:28 PM

Doesn't look like it worked

Posted by: Thinking | May 3, 2008 2:45:16 PM

Guam will go to Obama as will North Carolina. Indiana will be a split.

Obama wins this round.

Posted by: TIM G.,Polk City, Ia. | May 3, 2008 2:43:23 PM

The government grabs as much as possible from the poor citizen. Now when the election come, the cadidates try to appear generous and concern for the poor such as the taking out of gas tax during the summer. Who know how much they are going to grab you back when they are elected. Any candidate supporting the war outside of US is bound to tighten up our economic hardship more!! Simple as that, elect only candidate who are against agreesive war, disregard of what political party they beong to.

Posted by: mampang | May 3, 2008 2:26:40 PM

As TrueDem notes, Guam residents are U.S. citizens. The reason they can't vote for U.S. president is geographic. They can vote for president if they move to a state. Conversely a U.S. citizen born in a state cannot vote for president if s/he moves to Guam. Guam has no representation in the electoral college, that's why. And yes, it would be interesting to hear how Hillary proposes to solve the dilemma. It's defied resolution for decades.

Posted by: link | May 3, 2008 2:21:08 PM

The gas tax holiday will save $1.84 per 10 GALLONS of gas.
10 gallons = $36.00
- fed gas tax = 1.84
Price paid = 34.16

Well, if the price per gallon doesn't increase during the 14 weeks. Then, add in the increased price and the gas tax. Sounds like people will be worse off in September.

Posted by: kell | May 3, 2008 2:20:08 PM

The Democratic Super Delegeates would be very foolish to support Obama. There is no way he will be able to beat McCain. Clinton at least has a chance. A very good chance. The scandal with the pastor, his wife's comments and his remarks about the people of PA destroyed any chance he had of beating McCain. The Democratic Super Delegates have wasted enough time. SUPPORT CLINTON and you at least will not break the bank trying to get the White House back.

Posted by: DanceKerr | May 3, 2008 2:18:42 PM

GUAM- lastest poll numbers:

OBAMA 53%
Clinton 47%

79 reporting.

Posted by: IOWA Dem | May 3, 2008 2:17:41 PM

Hannity wouldn't know about anything Black that does not fit within his own preconceived notions. He will just find people to echo his own beliefs. It's call spin.

Posted by: kell | May 3, 2008 2:15:31 PM

Hillary Clinton's gas tax holiday is Pathetic. $25-30.00 = 1/2 tank of gas.
THAT's it!
This is not even a band-aide, plus it creates another defiect that our nation cannot account for. A politic stunt that will do absolutely nothing in the long run. Don't buy the hype!

Posted by: IOWA Dem | May 3, 2008 2:13:54 PM

MA will be solid Dem in Nov

All this fear mongering and hand-wringing by Clinton supporters aboput McCain winning MA in November is just a scare tactic.

MA voters are pretty idiotic if you keep electing kennedy year after year. they are loyal left-wing kooks that will march in lock-step with whoever the Dem nominee.

In MA, a bag of rocks could get elected over McCain if it was on the Dem ticket.

Posted by: TrueDem | May 3, 2008 2:11:45 PM

I am still hopeful,
Mrs. Clinton will grap Obama's candy by next Tuesday!
GO HILLARY or I will back McCain too!

Posted by: Rose, NC | May 3, 2008 2:09:13 PM

hey, Isac smart man!
A vote for Obama is a vote for John McCain in 2008!

Posted by: Zaftig | May 3, 2008 2:07:13 PM

You can bet if she were ahead in the delegate count this wouldn't be an issue for her. By the way, what ever happened to Chelsia?

Posted by: LongT | May 3, 2008 2:04:05 PM

Hill's continued attribution as a fighter should be countered that she would make a perfect candidate to fight the terrorists by enlisting her as a private in the army. Since she lacks the leadership quality and the demeanor of a president after calling Putin as without a soul who retorted and shut her mouth out by calling her as someone without a head ! She now pander to Guam voters by promising voting rights in electing a president when she can't even promise that to DC residents ! Hill definitely lacks the common sense but she perfectly fits the profile of a Panderer-In-Chief. The majority of the Supers have already decided that the Clintons are so obnoxious that more and more are coming out to break free from their clutches and long spiel. I believe more Supers will ultimately break free from them with the courage to tell them to go back to Arkansas. However, they crave for adulation, attention and publicity that makes it unlikely for them to go back there. I believe that more and more Supers are going to find the courage to turn them down and see their selfishness as destructive.

Posted by: wilson | May 3, 2008 2:03:57 PM

So let me see if this is right: If Hillary had won the caucus, Guam would be a "significant" win and it's residents would have had their "voices heard."

She probably loses, so now it's trash? Pathetic...

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | May 3, 2008 2:02:41 PM

The thing they are doing on MSNBC - all about Obama all weekend - is like one of those "in memoriam" programs that run after someone dies. Is MSNBC saying that Obama's campaign is hearing death knell bells?

Posted by: rs | May 3, 2008 2:01:07 PM

Obama gains 3 SDs today... 1 for Clinton.

He is also to get 3 more SDs for Illinos

Clinton need 2/3 of the remaining to get the nom

At this rate...

lets just say its not going her way

Posted by: Vanessa | May 3, 2008 2:00:19 PM

Check out the other ABC story telling about another Clinton lie about jobs lost in Indiana from MAGNAQUENCH. These jobs went to China and the deal was signed and approved by non-other than William Jefferson Clinton.
Wake up and smell the coffee America.
This isn't Argentina and she's not Evita.

Posted by: brghtsd1 | May 3, 2008 1:55:57 PM

I see it's a NBC/MSNBC weekend marathon for Obama. He will be on Meet The Press, lets see how many hard hitting questions he gets.

Posted by: tww | May 3, 2008 1:55:06 PM

"I am in favor of full voting rights for every American and that includes the people on Guam." Since she supports sanctuary cities, I would assume she would give full voting rights to illegals?

Posted by: whitehousewatcher | May 3, 2008 1:52:57 PM

Hillary would pledge votes for the Communist Chinese if they filled her campaign chest. This person is not worthy of our highest office or even the Senate in my opinion. She had the highest rate of earmarks for NY than any other Senator thereby cheating the rest of the American people. I wish the stupind people would get educated and stop following the Corrupt clintons.

Posted by: rockychance | May 3, 2008 1:50:19 PM

Hillary is amazing. She's proposing to remove the gas tax that maintains the roads and highway system. Didnt a bridge collapse because it wasnt being maintained. We just finished the winter driving season and there are many roads that need to get fixed. I wonder if this is her way of buying votes. I'll give you 18 cents off a gallon of gas if you vote for me, thanks for throwing me a bone. I wonder what will happen next year if you do somehow manage to get elected. You'll probably tell us that you cant suspend the gas tax because it maintains the roads and highways and it will cost jobs. Pathetic, just plain Pathetic.

Posted by: lovy | May 3, 2008 1:49:01 PM

Tomdavie, did many republicans switch registration to vote for him? Yes, he did. Did he work with republicans to get things accomplish? Yes, he did.

So tomdavie, Obama's comment is not pandering. It is the truth.

Obama has proven what he will do as a president. Before Obama became known everyone was saying that this election is over. That Hillary will win. Well, lo and behold, Hillary is out of money, has low number of total delegates, have lost more contest.

Posted by: grace | May 3, 2008 1:40:05 PM

Vanessa,

Have you ever even read the pledge that Hillary and Obama signed? It is a pledge to not campaign in FL and MI. It does not even address whether or not votes should count. That is not their decision. The counting of the FL and MI votes rests on the discretion of the DNC!!

Vanessa, I am not sure you mean to misrepresent, but please read the pledge for yourself.

Posted by: countallthevotes | May 3, 2008 1:39:25 PM

You guys are crazy if you believe that Obama won't win CA NY and MA in the fall, considering that these are the three most liberal states in the country (MA being the most liberal of all). Even Mccain didn't win MA int he primaries.

Posted by: bob | May 3, 2008 1:35:23 PM

Venessa, don't pay attention to the few people in this blog who can't reason. They are set on one point and they can't crasp things from different perspectives.

Obama WILL win Massachussets and other states that are red states that won't even go to clinton.
Clinton supporters stop using fear mongering. Realize the truth and move on.

Posted by: Grace | May 3, 2008 1:34:46 PM

@tomdavie - Obama isn't pandering by saying he unites accross party lines... this is something is actualy "does"... the same can't be said about Clinton.

gotta love the say anything/do anything Clinton with "I'll do everything I can to allow you to vote in the future"... as Yoda says "there is no try, do or do not!"

Posted by: chris | May 3, 2008 1:33:11 PM

Hey Jane,
Those Americans who have voted for Obama mostly at caucusses and few primaries are mostly at Republican states! Sure the Republicans do really hate Clintons! some of the Republican trap made Obama win 30 states!!! Plus the democratic Party insiders have personal problems with her! They blame the Clintons for Kerry's loss in 2004 election!
But since those video tape was released neither the Republicans nor some of the democrats would vote for Barrack Obama again!
Now they do hate him more than Hill!

Posted by: william | May 3, 2008 1:32:20 PM

Hello America and good-bye, I have my Saturday errands to run and spouse is irritated that I am on this thing. I hope y'all will vote for Hillary, but if not make up your own mind for your own good reasons. America, I love you. Prospero Ano y Felizidad. A prosperous year and happiness to all- black to white, rich to poor, PhD to no degree. By the way, my mother only had a high school education and still the smartest person I have ever known.

Posted by: hello america | May 3, 2008 1:29:43 PM

The latest poll I can find on Massachusetts is Rasmussen.

Obama 51% McCain 39%

Posted by: AkaDad | May 3, 2008 1:28:51 PM

Just more pandering by the losing candidate. She's shameless!

Posted by: dgfiit | May 3, 2008 1:27:15 PM

Michigan and Florida will count. Just not has they vote in January.

Why not ask Hillary why she signed the pledge for both states to be disenfranchised???

Why not ask her, when she thought she was the "inevitable" nominee why she went on tape to go back into MI and FL after the primary season to "clean up" the mess

why not ask her???

She thought this would be over by Super Tuesday and underestimated Obama.

Now she's behind...MI and FL must count.
We have her on TAPE and print.

They will count, in a way that benefits both candidates.

Posted by: Vanessa | May 3, 2008 1:23:36 PM

Ahh...the 'barack demographic'--people with an education, a job, and under the age of 60.

As always, the Me Generation doesn't like that change is coming. Someone HAS to fix the problems caused by sixteen years of Clinton/Bush and the narcissism of an entire generation.

The same people who said 'You can't trust anyone over 30' are now the ones saying 'Don't trust anyone under 50'. Irony? Nahhhh....

Posted by: jim | May 3, 2008 1:21:30 PM

Hillary Clinton in 2008, if not Clinton then McCain in 2008 because I have no choice. By the way I am college educated, but am a democrat because of my blue collar roots. It is time to stop dismissing the white and hispanic, working class voters voices and consider that other dems are democrats because of their roots to these types of people. The DNC just refuses to listen to people like us and think elites in press know best--Huh!!!--I beg to differ.

Posted by: annonymous | May 3, 2008 1:20:29 PM

I think one thing that many people are not factoring in - Americans hate the Clintons. The 30 states that went to Obama show this. Remember when the Bush's moved into the White House and the country was saying we have dignity back in our white house. This primary has showed us that the Clintons will never change and we don't want them - all the scandals and corruption. Who would want those two back in our white house again. Not me.

Posted by: Jane | May 3, 2008 1:20:29 PM

So candidate Clinton is proposing making Guam the 51st state.

Tell Mrs experienced Clinton the only way for Guam to be able to vote in the general election is to become a state.

I'm sure the media will be obsessing about this.

So candidate Clinton are you proposing to make Guam the 51st state.

But don't forget she is experienced.

Clinton has knowledge about some domestic issues but she is terrible on foreign policy.

Posted by: Sam | May 3, 2008 1:18:24 PM

@ TO CLINTON SUPPORTERS IN MA,

We all can help to out vote the candidates like John Kerry in November 2008.

I am in MD but will donate to Cindy Sheehan campaign for Congress to de-throne Nancy Pelosi.

Posted by: magda | May 3, 2008 1:15:40 PM

I was for Hillary Clinton till I read
this article which says she will work for giving war reparations to Guam. That is like making it the US fault for
what the Japanese did during the wwii.Or
in others words like paying your neighbor because your other neighbor killed your dog.Absoluting wrong to make
US citizens pay for what Japan did.
Hillary you lost my vote and so did
Obama.

Posted by: Laura Graff | May 3, 2008 1:15:35 PM

This is a gaffe by candidate Clinton.

Guam would have to become a state to get full voting rights.

Candidate Clinton the most overated candidate ever. Her experience is so overrated.

Posted by: Doug | May 3, 2008 1:15:33 PM

"And you will be a cry baby"

hahahahahahahahhahaah

grow up

Ok, we shall see

Posted by: Vanessa | May 3, 2008 1:15:03 PM

I am from San Jose, I don't see Barrack Obama wiining in CA this November either!
If Feb 5th election was held as of today Hillary would have won more delegates in Ca with at least a 18 point lead in CA!
Mark my words!!!

Posted by: Lilly, CA | May 3, 2008 1:07:32 PM

So if people want to argue on the MATH and say Barack should win because he has more delegates and therefore has the will of the people--think again!!! He has more delegates and a lot of them were gotten in undemocratic ways that heavily favored the Barack demographic over working class, older people. Myself I did not attend the caucus because my spouse was tired and did not want to stand around for hours and had to get up early the next morning. People where I lived, they showed it on my local news, were so angry because they had to wait hours outside before ever even beginning the process. It looked like a mob scene--but my district did not make the national news because comparitively speaking it was organized compared to places like Houston in Harris County. I on the news in some places people were confiscating the sheets and keeping Clinton supporters out. To be fair there were allegations of misdeeds on both sides--but look at the skewed results and it is clear that the caucus favored Obama.

Posted by: hello america | May 3, 2008 1:07:01 PM

She just panders to everyone now: voting rights for Guam, 30-cents relief from the gas tax, etc. etc. Doesn't she have any principles any more?

Posted by: James | May 3, 2008 1:02:44 PM

I agree MA probably will go RED and NY may too!
I just simply can not see many white people to vote for Obama anymore???

Posted by: Jill, NY | May 3, 2008 12:59:53 PM

I agree MA probably will go RED and NY may too!
I just simply can noty see many white people to vote for Obama anymore???

Posted by: Jill, NY | May 3, 2008 12:59:43 PM

Vanessa,
Don't so sure about MA!
People are hateful to Barrack obama in MA!
33% of MA voters are Jewsih
52% of MA voters are Catholic!
What does that tell U?
MA will go RED , I agree!

Posted by: Sam, MA | May 3, 2008 12:57:56 PM

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