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Tale (of) the Pin on the Donkey

May 15, 2008 3:27 PM

FROM GUEST-BLOGGER RICK KLEIN, OF ABC'S THE NOTE

Something interesting made its way onto Sen. Barack Obama's lapel on Monday -- and it stayed there for three days: an American flag pin.

Obama told reporters on his campaign plane Wednesday night that he put the pin on at a veterans' event in West Virginia on Monday, because a veteran handed it to him "who said it was important."

Per ABC's Sunlen Miller, Obama continued: "This is an issue that is a phony issue because I was never opposed to wearing a flag pins, I’ve worn flag pins in the past. I said very specifically when I was asked about it that I had worn flag pins after 9/11 and that I had chosen not to wear one because I didn’t want to be perceived as wearing patriotism on my chest, but not voting or advocating on behalf of veterans in a patriotic way."

"And some people took that as a slight against people who wore flag pins. It couldn't be further from the truth. It was a commentary on politicians and folks in Washington who sometimes are very good about saluting our soldiers when they come home, but then don't follow up with budgets that make sure they are getting treatment for post traumatic stress disorder. So it was a commentary about out politics, not about individuals who wear the flag with pride."

As often comes from Obama, this in an interesting, multi-layered answer to a relatively simple question. You'll recall that Obama made this more of an issue than it probably needed to be when he answered an Iowa reporter's question last October about why he wasn't wearing a pin with a longer-than-necessary discourse.

"You know, the truth is that right after 9/11, I had a pin," Obama said. "Shortly after 9/11, particularly because as we're talking about the Iraq War, that became a substitute for I think true patriotism, which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security, I decided I won't wear that pin on my chest."

"I'm going to try to tell the American people what I believe will make this country great, and hopefully that will be a testimony to my patriotism," he said.

Since then, that decision has stood out to Obama critics as an example of elitism and a perceived lack of patriotism. He's been asked about it regularly on the trail; Karl Rove said his response to the question in Iowa showed Obama to be "coolly detached and very arrogant," and Republicans are clearly hoping to use it as part of their efforts to frame Obama in a potential fall match-up.

Then, as Obama tried to show that he can be the candidate of working-class America, in West Virginia and its aftermath, the flag pin reappeared. Just wearing the little thing is the easy way to quiet the persistent questions -- but this looks like a slightly different politician than the man with the nuanced explanation for why he "won't wear that pin on my chest."

How long will it be there? (Obama has not public events Thursday, but you can bet reporters will be checking out his suit jacket on Friday.)

-- Rick Klein

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...I'm tired of people attempting to assert that Obama has transcended politics as usual. He's every much a politician -- almost too smooth of one.

Posted by: joywinnie | May 18, 2008 8:39:07 PM

I heard a story the other day about a war veteran (not sure if he served in WWII or Vietnam) who had been desperately trying to obtain some Government help for his health issues. He had no family to support him, and barely enough money to keep himself fed, let alone covered medically.

I wonder if he believes if the Bush administration really cares about America. I mean, with all the people in Iraq who need our help, how can we expect the United States President to have time to care about the United States, right?

Certainly it's acceptable that we spend hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars blowing up and rebuilding Iraq, for the sake of the prosperity of Iraq (who would do the same for us in a heartbeat, of course, yup yup), but at the same time It's equally acceptable to starve and neglect a UNITED STATES WAR VETERAN AT HOME who NEEDS OUR HELP, right?

I wonder if the veteran from the story I heard believes Barack Obama does not love his country. Barack Obama wants to make sure the United States makes the citizens of the United States the priority of the United States Government. How silly. I'm sure the veteran would LOATHE Barack Obama for having such a motive, right?

Now for someone to believe outsourcing military aircraft manufacturing work to a non-US corporation, such as John McCain believes, now thats what I call a PATRIOT! The war veteran would certainly put his trust in someone like this, right?

Too bad we'll never know, because you know what happened to the war veteran in the story?

He killed himself.

Posted by: Jallenrule | May 17, 2008 11:47:41 PM

BO panders for vote while he suggests to give driver license to illegal immigrants. It must be the first round the world.

In order to get the support from Latinos, he stops at nothing.

The principle is that you don't give a legal driver license to an illegal immigrant. We are not against the people but the law has to uphold.

Posted by: John_Lai | May 17, 2008 7:13:57 AM

This country is not about a flag pin; it’s not about a flag; it is more about a citizen’s right to burn that flag in protest if they disagree with what this country is doing. Anyone who thinks wearing a flag pin makes them patriotic is sick. It’s like a baby that cries, not because it hurts, but because it wants others to think it hurts. This country is about the right of a person to get up and put forth an opinion that others might totally disagree with, and you have the right to protest it . That is what America is about; that is what we should celebrate. It’s called freedom of expression as provided for in the First Amendment of the United States Constitution: The right to express ourselves any way we wish. Our military risk their lives so that all Americans can enjoy the rights provided for in our Constitution, whether their manner of doing so is popular or not.

Posted by: rhbate | May 16, 2008 11:12:16 AM

Obama said in an interview with Anderson Cooper that patriotism is "hyperbole".

Actually I think it was a very honest answer of his position and how he thinks ... ....Actually patriotism is something that some of us feel.

Posted by: Jackie | May 16, 2008 10:47:56 AM

What is really shows is that he panders for votes.

Posted by: Beth | May 16, 2008 9:20:54 AM

Your President gave up GOLF for the lost Americans that are dying in IRAQ,

Posted by: American10 | May 15, 2008 10:02:53 PM
__________________

You are not up to date. There is a film clip of Bush playing golf a few days after he told that lie.

Posted by: rhbate | May 15, 2008 11:37:02 PM

Obama never did a day of military service, never even considered that sort of sacrifice, so why would our flag on a pin mean anything to him?
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Apparently it means nothing to Hillary; I never saw her with Stephanopolousa flag pin. In fact, at the debate where that idiot Stephanopolous asked the question about the flag pin, not one person had a flag pin, including the idiot,

Posted by: rhbate | May 15, 2008 10:02:49 PM

The Dope that peddles hope to the uneducated masses has got to restore his bona fides with people who still think he is a patriotic American.

Posted by: Sluggo | May 15, 2008 10:00:35 PM

He called it "That pin", did he? Well, it was probably made in China anyway. Obama never did a day of military service, never even considered that sort of sacrifice, so why would our flag on a pin mean anything to him?

I suppose it concerns me more what Obama would do to correct the trade imbalance with China than whether he'd make a coldly-calculated tactical move to start wearing a symbolic piece of Chinese-made metal.

Flag pins only mean something when you wear them faithfully, not adding one as a cynical ploy after your campaign advisers tell you that not wearing it hurts your electoral chances.

Obama's such a pandering toady. That boy won't get this sweetie's vote.

Posted by: J Cline | May 15, 2008 9:55:02 PM

The flag pin is an important issue for me. I like Clinton and McCain because they do wear flag pins, and by doing so, they show style. Red, white and blue bling. Bling is important to the eye of the voter because real issues are things that don’t really matter in a campaign. I know this, and you know this. Now on the other hand, flag pins show a candidate’s position on issues. It shows whether they are for a war or accept lobbyist money. So listen here Mr. Obama, if you want to win, bring out the bling, and you’ll get them votes.

Posted by: treble hook | May 15, 2008 9:19:56 PM

"The flag is the symbol of our country's beginning, a free country that owes a great debt of gratitude to the thousands of brave people who fought and died so that you and I could live in freedom."

Posted by: LindaJ | May 15, 2008 9:00:44 PM
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If you're going to quote me, please quote the entire passage so as to maintain the context, rather than just quote a portion and distort my meaning.

Posted by: rhbate | May 15, 2008 9:16:30 PM

rhbate wrote: "This country is not about a flag pin; it’s not about a flag; it is more about a citizens’ right to burn that flag in protest if they disagree with what this country is doing."

The flag is the symbol of our country's beginning, a free country that owes a great debt of gratitude to the thousands of brave people who fought and died so that you and I could live in freedom.

We must look to the future, but in doing so we must never forget the past. The flag serves as a constant reminder of who we are and how this great nation came to be.

Posted by: LindaJ | May 15, 2008 9:00:44 PM

Glad to see you're staying focused on the important issues.

Hope you're all wearing your flag pins while you're reading this.

Posted by: Aengil | May 15, 2008 8:27:14 PM

This country is not about a flag pin; it’s not about a flag; it is more about a citizens’ right to burn that flag in protest if they disagree with what this country is doing. Anyone who thinks wearing a flag pin makes them patriotic is sick. It’s like a baby that cries, not because it hurts, but because it wants others to think it hurts. This country is about the right of a person to get up and put forth an opinion that others might totally disagree with, and you have the right to protest it . That is what America is about; that is what we should celebrate. It’s called freedom of expression as provided for in the First Amendment of the United States Constitution: The right to express ourselves any way we wish. Our military risk their lives so that all Americans can enjoy the rights provided for in our Constitution, whether their manner of doing so is popular or not.

Posted by: rhbate | May 15, 2008 7:31:54 PM

He's right. The wearing or not of the pin means exactly nothing, nada, zip. I can easily envision some flag pin politicians who think nothing of their unpatriotic actions because I often meet Americans who are equally as asleep. What is encouraging, though, is how many Americans aren't-- including Obama. Rove is wrong-- it wasn't a wrong answer or even an arrogant one. It was a golden opportunity to talk about a certain brand of hypocrisy, American hypocrisy, and how we are sick of it. Seems Obama was right about that too.

Posted by: a patriotic citizen | May 15, 2008 7:15:31 PM

If Obama stuck a thousand flag pins into his chest, that does not mean he loves America. Why are all the terrorist groups and criminal typers supporting him? He loves Obama and the power being elected President would give him. He could not even help with the proverty and despair of his South Chicago gang and crime district except give hand-outs to irresponsibility people.

Posted by: Mary | May 15, 2008 6:50:45 PM

HILLARY IS AN IDIOT!

Hillary always speaks about how “tough” she is, of being a “fighter,” when what we need is a statesman. Bush was the “fighter,” the kind who sends others to fight and die because of his lack of judgment.“ If I wanted a fighter in the White House, I’d probably vote for Floyd Mayweather. A fighter is not what we need in the White House. We need someone who will negotiate, compromise when necessary. Hillary is not the person with the judgment necessary to take the office of commander in chief - "from day one," or from any other day.

OBAMA 2008

Posted by: rhbate | May 15, 2008 5:48:46 PM

LeeLee07

We can agree on one thing Hillary is toast. You can vote McWar, hope you have someone in Iraq or may be you might loose everything because you voted for someone without a clue about the American economy. Remember, Hillary Clinton ain't Lazarus in the bible. From where she is there's no coming back, she's just trying to get your money to clear her $20m debt. Open your eyes people, don't be fooled. Hillary is toast so stop all the talk of Hillary Rise, it ain't gonna happen, OK? The fight is now between Obama and McCain, so get over it.

Posted by: Oretega M | May 15, 2008 5:43:45 PM

@Ortega - Maybe no one has told you yet, but Obama is going to lose. WE (Hillary Supporters) are not voting for him and there is enough of us to ensure he does not make it into the White House. Say "hello" to President John McCain...

A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!'08

Posted by: LeeLee07 | May 15, 2008 5:36:17 PM

HILLARY WILL SPIN IT TO WIN IT!

AT LEAST UNTIL SHE CAN GET ENOUGH SUCKERS SO SHE CAN TAKE HER OWN MONEY BACK OFF THE TABLE.

Posted by: rhbate | May 15, 2008 5:29:12 PM

I have some good news for you. Hillary Clinton ain't Lazarus in the bible. From where she is there's no coming back, she's just trying to get your money to clear her $20m debt. Open your eyes people, don't be fooled. Hillary is toast so stop all the talk of Hillary Rise, it ain't gonna happen, OK? The fight is now between Obama and McCain, so get over it.

Posted by: Oretega M | May 15, 2008 5:26:19 PM

CTJD ,

I know you support Hillary. Remember what she said, if u can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen, OK?

Posted by: Oretega M | May 15, 2008 5:19:14 PM

This country is not about a flag pin; it’s not about a flag; it is more about a citizens right to burn that flag in protest if they disagree with what this country is doing. Anyone who thinks wearing a flag pin makes them patriotic is sick. It’s like a baby that cries, not because it hurts, but because it wants others to think it hurts. This country is about the right of a person to get up and put forth an opinion that others might totally disagree with, and you have the right to protest it . That is what America is about; that is what we should celebrate. It’s called freedom of expression as provided for in the First Amendment of the United States Constitution The right to express ourselves any way we wish. Our military risk their lives so that all Americans can enjoy the rights provided for in our Constitution, whether their manner of doing so is popular or not.

Posted by: rhbate | May 15, 2008 5:08:38 PM

for the person who said this is petty how many of you hypocrites are wearing a flag pin.
i say to that hypocrite obama and counting.

he threw wright under the bus for political reasons.
he has put on the flag pin for political reasons

and he will tell all of his disciples whatever he thinks you want to hear for poltical reasons.

Posted by: jgaw | May 15, 2008 5:06:07 PM

A new name,

I agree.
He is the one makes it an issue.
Just like he said, he never take money from lobbiest, none of other candidate said it.
The problem, he is not telling the truth.
That's bothering people.

Posted by: catleya | May 15, 2008 5:00:51 PM

I sincerely hope that the Domocrats have a plan. I hope that their plan is to let the Republicans think Obama is their candidate just long enough for them to plan their entire attack strategy around Obama and surprise them with the news that Hillary Clinton is the nominee. With not enough time to restrategize and regroup, it will be easy cruising for Clinton. I hope so, because at the rate that this is going, if that is not the case, they just threw the race and give the presidency to McCain. I think it is rather sickening that they'd rather lose with a black man, then win with a white woman. The 1747 mentality here is first come white men, then come black men, then come the kids and last the woman. I can not believe that the democratic is still so way back.

Posted by: CTJD | May 15, 2008 4:44:25 PM

It's really got to suck for Obama's campaign and the major media like MSNBC that 17 million democrats aren't buying the BS that Obama and the media are trying to sell us! Voters of KY and OR - time to send Obama and the media a message - this is not American Idol! Obama does not care about the United States, Israel or any of the other categories already thrown under the bus this primary. And it's still only the primary. Who goes under when the election starts?

Posted by: calli | May 15, 2008 4:42:48 PM

Posted by: rhbate | May 15, 2008 4:30:16 PM

Wow! That was truly inspiring...
and so unlike you.

What happened?

Posted by: eyes wide open | May 15, 2008 4:39:05 PM

A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!'08

LeeLee07
_______________
And no one cars what color you are.

This country is not about a flag pin; it’s not about a flag; it is more about a citizens right to burn that flag in protest. Anyone who thinks wearing a flag pin makes them patriotic is sick. It’s like a baby that cries, not because it hurts, but because it wants others to think it hurts. This country is about the right of a person to get up and put forth an opinion that others might totally disagree with, and you have the right to protest it . That is what America is about, that is what we should celebrate. It’s called freedom of expression as provided for in the First Amendment of the United States Constitution The right to express ourselves any way we wish. Our military risk their lives so that all Americans can enjoy the rights provided for in our Constitution, whether popular or not.

Posted by: rhbate | May 15, 2008 4:30:16 PM

Not wearing the pin wasn't as big an issue as the fact that he has now decided to wear one. Evidence of an elitist egghead trying to pander to the patriotic working class.

Did you see the flyer he's mailing in Kentucky? Obama standing in front of a huge cross with the title "Faith, Hope, Change".

Sinclair Lewis wrote, "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross."

Posted by: HoosierSue | May 15, 2008 4:25:28 PM

HRC does not wear it and it was not an issue, because she did not make it an issue - no bid deal, which is where it belongs.

BHO makes a big deal of it himself, by constantly talking about it. He has nothing else to show; whatelse could he make a big ideal of it any way. So, BHO made it an issue because he claims one thing and then does another, and does another, and then, changes again.

Posted by: a new name | May 15, 2008 4:24:14 PM

So, what did you expect of Obama? The Best Practices of an "Empty Suit" displayed.

Hillary or McCain '08

Posted by: SM | May 15, 2008 4:23:39 PM

This is a message to all Hillary's supporters. Hillary Clinton ain't Lazarus in the bible. From where she is there's no coming back, she's just trying to get your money to clear her $20m debt. Open your eyes people, don't be fooled. Hillary is toast so stop all the talk of Hillary Rise, it ain't gonna happen, OK? The fight is now between Obama and McCain, so get over it. Over & out.

Posted by: Owen | May 15, 2008 4:23:14 PM

What he is doing now is worse then when was not wearing the pin, Wearing the Pin for Political Expedience is an atrocity!

Who was the vet that gave him the pin?

Patriotiusm is more then words Obama, when you blame America first, when you are not proud of this country and when you accuse it of atrocities, and when you hang around Farrakhan - well this shows you are Anti-American you mixed up our states with your Islamic states there are only 50 States in the US, there are 57 in Islam!!

Posted by: spock | May 15, 2008 4:21:55 PM

I'm disappointed that Obama has folded on this absurd "issue." As if everyone wearing a pin is a patriot -- most just think they are.

Posted by: Alex | May 15, 2008 4:21:31 PM

This country is not about a flag pin; it’s not about a flag; it is more about a citizens right to burn that flag in protest. Anyone who thinks wearing a flag pin makes them patriotic is sick. It’s like a baby that cries, not because it hurts, but because it wants others to think it hurts. This country is about the right of a person to get up and put forth an opinion that others might totally disagree with, and you have the right to protest it . That is what America is about, that is what we should celebrate. It’s called freedom of expression as provided for in the First Amendment of the United States Constitution The right to express ourselves any way we wish. Our military risk their lives so that all Americans can enjoy the rights provided for in out Constitution, whether popular or not.

Posted by: rhbate | May 15, 2008 4:21:23 PM

If anyone seriosly is affected by this flag pin issue then they are failing in their duty as the electorate. Our job is to elect a leader, not someone who, as Office Space so dearly pointed out, wears "flair" on their jacket.

I agree with Obama's position and I for one am tired of patriotism being distorted by those who fear that which is different from them. We come from founding fathers who questioned, who thought independently and gave little regard to flag pins and other accessories - we dishonor their work by giving this issue weight.

Obama 08!

Posted by: David | May 15, 2008 4:20:42 PM

once again, the blinded obamabots fail to see the significance here. It is NOT just about the "pin"...it is about Obama's HYPOCRISY....he says one thing, then turns around and does the WORM ("What Obama Really Meant"), and basically changes and flip flops to serve his opportunistic needs. Is it patriotic or not to wear a pin? He said before he can show his patriotism in other ways, but if he can show his patriotism in other ways, there where is this patriotism? WHAT HAS HE DONE? ?????? nothing. so he goes to wearing the pin, just AFTER he loses by a humilating margin in WV. THAT'S THE STORY. Get with it people, Klein is doing an excellent job with the cajones to expose Obama when other news outlets are too chicken, afraid of being called racist. Immediately, I see someone asking "what do you mean by donkey"....just like that, the race card appears again!!!!

Posted by: doublestandard | May 15, 2008 4:08:57 PM

by the way

the reason we need to worry about poverty in Africa and India and hurricanes and disaster in other parts of the world ...

is those are the havens for terrorist recruiting duh.

whoever thinks we should not be helping them as was said on this blog...talk about taxes going up... have you seen how much this war is costing us...for nothing.

Posted by: dl | May 15, 2008 4:07:48 PM

who cares

soldiers are dying for a cause that isn't making us safer...and we are spending our childrens money on it...and leaving them without oil and a world that will be in a shambles and much more dangerous as more people starve and look at America as gluttons ...

We want our country back...Bush, Cheney...Get out.

Posted by: dl | May 15, 2008 4:05:07 PM

Whatever he said does not matter.
Brian Ross just reported today he received money from the company he helped to develop it .
He misleads people with keeps saying he never take money from lobbyest.

Posted by: catleya | May 15, 2008 4:03:53 PM

This pin ---- is for the birds.Most men don't wear it and Clinton has never.My hubby a vet he has a pin does he wear it NO. So what the hey is the big deal?????????????

Posted by: older white person | May 15, 2008 4:01:46 PM

So then true patriotism is not wearing a flag pin until you get your tail kicked
And need to shift your campaign toward the middle
And need to discount your preachers remarks
And need to distance yourself from your friends
And realize that gun clinging bumpkins vote too

thank goodness for the Senators new politics

What will he wear when everyone sees through the pin.

Posted by: show me | May 15, 2008 3:58:06 PM

Recent entries in this blog have been content-free. How talking about what Bush said or Clinton or McCain or anyone (anything other than flag pins).

Posted by: Brandy | May 15, 2008 3:57:31 PM

Hope all you obamamorons enjoy paying the higher taxes for his Global Poverty Plan so he can take our taxes and send to his mother country Africa!!!!!!

Posted by: justme2see | May 15, 2008 3:56:35 PM

If obamamoron get the nomination it will be like a nightmare, horror movie, all rolled into one. Please, somebody help us.

Posted by: justme2see | May 15, 2008 3:55:03 PM

Another distraction... who cares about a pin.. government need to be patriotic and get these gas prices down.. GOD BLESS AMERICA ON THAT...

Posted by: Lawrence | May 15, 2008 3:52:53 PM

Why does it matter how long it stays there, or if it is there at all?

Americans really need to look in the mirror and REALLY THINK about what is REALLY important. We are being led down the garden path in this election - AGAIN!

Predictable, but sad nonetheless.

Posted by: Nobodys fool | May 15, 2008 3:47:23 PM

well the truth is we don't know obama
but we are getting a taste of his "new kind" of politics-(smells of the same-o-same-o to me)

flag pin, sorry sweetie, these are just fluff.

obama did not answer the reporters question,
obama does not answer any questions off the cuff-he cannot think and speak of issues on his feet.

he wants the white house in the same old time way of any politician,

I suppose he will be going to church in kansas before it is over.

I hope his soul is still intact once he gets the wh.,

we poor and middle class will suffer
but he will make sure we have plenty of
foodstamps and welfare checks.
i am sure his hand is going over his heart now.

Posted by: jgaw | May 15, 2008 3:42:26 PM

Can this man ever, ever just answer a question. The thoughts of having to listen to this until November is too much. Please Hillary save us.

Posted by: Kris | May 15, 2008 3:34:44 PM

It's a flip-flap.

Posted by: Martin | May 15, 2008 3:29:08 PM

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