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The Edwards' Weigh In (Kind Of)
May 06, 2008 9:28 AM
While still refraining from endorsing, former Sen. John Edwards, D-NC, and his wife Elizabeth sat down to talk to People Magazine about their takes on Sens. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, and Barack Obama, D-Illinois.
It breaks down like this.
John:
LIKES -- Clinton's tenacity; Obama's desire for change, Obama's symbolism as an African-American
DISLIKES -- Clinton's old politics, Obama's occasional lack of substance
Elizabeth:
LIKES -- Clinton's health care plan; Obama's ability to motivate young people
DISLIKES -- Clinton's lobbyist money; Obama's health care plan or his "misleading" advertising about it.
It kinda sounds like he likes Obama and she likes Clinton. If they had to vote today. Which they kinda do.
-- jpt
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Like: Edwards as a true progressive, finding a pragmatic solution to poverty.
Dislike: People dissing him cuz they jealous they don't got hair like his.
thank you edwards for staying out of this mess--they've got to figure out how to lead this country without your lead at some time, it's sink or swim. please keep us focused on the issues, the dems and the nation, and away from the game of politics. it's for the best.
Posted by: kenshin | May 11, 2008 12:27:04 AM
MAD?
John Edwards now is FORCED.
Well his state overwhelmingly went with OBAMA.
If he wants to use his VOTE, you better know what that means.
Unfortunately Edwards turned up not smart enough to cast his vote yesterday now his VOTE is not much of a thing.
Posted by: kg | May 7, 2008 2:41:56 PM
A reasonable person would recognize that the contest is over and it's time to unify the party. Hillary's response is just more proof that she isn't a reasonable person, and that she really does want to undermine her Party's candidate as much as possible, to improve her chances in 2012.
Posted by: Javalation | May 7, 2008 10:24:03 AM
What about Hillary's symbolism as a woman and Obama's lobbyist money (and misleading advertising about not accepting any)?
Posted by: doctorate | May 7, 2008 7:25:04 AM
The Democratic party will alienate a lot of supporters due to: the Fla./Michigan fiasco and the Clinton supporters.
Posted by: paul | May 6, 2008 11:03:20 PM
Is the problem that Clinton supporters lie (like their candidate) or just don't know what they're talking about? The oil companies don't pay the gas tax--the tax is paid by the consumer & if it is suspended it just means Americans will buy more gas meaning more $ go to the oil companies--they'll be very happy with that outcome. As for Clinton's claim that she will get a windfall profits tax passed by the Bush administration & that that money will be used to pay for the suspension of the gas tax, its more BS--it ain't going to happen & even if it did there are better things that money could be used for than encouraging Americans to buy more gasoline.
Posted by: John | May 6, 2008 11:01:12 PM
Hillary is proposing suspending the gas tax and in replacement of the loss revenue, the oil companies will be charged for the amount so their will no shortage for infrastructures. Obama prefers the hard working Americans pay for the tax instead of the oil companies. Obama voted for the Bush/Cheney energy bill that gave billions of dollars to the oil companies. Hillary voted against it and so did McCain. I can go on but I encourage everyone to examine Obama's voting record. His record is very corporate friendly and he has a record of giving billions of dollars to corporations.
Posted by: SarahJo | May 6, 2008 7:04:59 PM
Good for the Edwards' to keep it to themselves. I wouldn't have tried to sway voters either. It will be the PEOPLE who elect our next President and not their endorsers....so it's a mute point. Let them earn it themselves from here on out. I think our progressive country was well intentioned in Jan/Feb by pushing Obama through early primaries when Americans did not know him well enough. Some so desperate, they'll take any "change". The longer this goes on the better...even if it goes to the convention in August.
Posted by: Debra | May 6, 2008 3:39:55 PM
Mixed American - I agree about campaign dollars raised. His base is African American and college kids....just how much are you going to make there? He does have 5 liberal billionaires
"bundling" money into his campaign, though. Doesn't matter. He outspent Hillary 3 or 4 to one in most states and clearly you can't buy the Presidential nom, or he'd have it by now.
Posted by: Debra | May 6, 2008 3:25:16 PM
We are going to need some folks who didn't get deep into the trenches with the candidates to step up and help bridge the gaps and help us heal when the nomination is decided. He's in a good position to be part of that process. If he truly has strong feelings for either candidate, and he has the power to help them campaign in the Fall, then he really should do just what he's doing now, for the good of the party.
Posted by: fontapa | May 6, 2008 1:24:41 PM
I admire John for not wanting to get in the way of people voting.
Posted by: Chris | May 6, 2008 1:14:22 PM
Ok, this seems a fair and balanced assessment of the two candidates. It's not especially deep and penetrating. It offers whichever candidate emerges as the nominee some guidelines. It's really kind of statesman stuff. Good for the Edwards. I think Obama can show lots more substance as we move along. I do not think Clinton can forgo the old style politics. But she has shown us so many masks in the race to date that one wonders which ones she'd wear as the Chief Executive. With her bomb Iran statement, she really seems to me to belong on McCain's ticket.
Posted by: gaias child | May 6, 2008 12:54:57 PM
Clinton's old politics?
Atleast I know what I got when Clintons were at the WH.
Obama? I don't know...I don't hear he's done anything good in Chicago.
Posted by: blue Irish | May 6, 2008 12:28:25 PM
Who says Obama never take money from lobbiest?
It was on tv , I heard it.
His advisor did not deny it at that time.
Just google yourself.
Posted by: blue Irish | May 6, 2008 12:22:40 PM
only 30% of Obama's campaign contributions are from small donors... this has been documented... you need to look at opensecrets for real facts
Posted by: mixed-american | May 6, 2008 12:05:57 PM
tretta...you are wrong...Obamas money is coming in from $25-30 doners....there are millions of them everyday contributing. This is why Hillary is having issues. All her BIG guys have reached their cap...they cannot contribute anymore...
Posted by: carnival | May 6, 2008 11:48:43 AM
A Reader...women aren't supporting Hillary because she is the wrong women. When I vote for a women I want one that is doing it for the good of the people not for political benefit, fame and selfishness. I think Hillary is totally doing this to get her ego fanned. She has wanted to be president ever since her "bubba" was in, and that's why she didn't divorce him...sad but true...
Posted by: carnival | May 6, 2008 11:41:16 AM
I don't think I could ever afford Hillarys Health Care plan, it is mandatory you have it. I have yet heard from her as to what it will cost me. This is one reason I am not voting for her.
Nicky: I totally agree. Why can't they get that right.
Posted by: Becky | May 6, 2008 11:31:41 AM
John Edwards likes Obama because he is black? This has been the biggest farce in this entire election..Obama is not black, he is bi-racial his mother is white, it should not matter what his race is but it just amazes me how people see Obama as black and not white.If race is going to be an issue then why can't Obama be what he truly is a bi-racial man or does this not fit the agenda of the media and others....
Posted by: Nicky | May 6, 2008 11:18:26 AM
No Drew,
That statement was sarcastic. I guess wanting to save good paying highway contruction jobs and having safe bridges and overpasses to travel on with my family makes me an elitist, then so be it. The sarcasm was to emphasize the level of pandering the candidate(s) are willing to lower themselves.
Posted by: Progressive Democrat | May 6, 2008 11:16:23 AM
They both like Obama...and if you took there smaller venue statements from New hampshire...they both are not too keen on the Clintons.
I think Elisabeth just wants to make sure her issue...healthcare moves forward to try and cover everyone...the problem is ...she is out of touch with those blue collar families trying to balance rent and food and healthcare as Clinton is...they don't see how those families won't be helped by a system that hits them with a stipend and a tax credit...those families don't need more bureaucracy...they need cheaper healthcare.
and the financials aren't shrunk by more people in the system...they are hurt by it.
A huge part of the problem is lack of family docs, nurses and surgeons,...and then billing both of which will be exascerbated tremendously with the Clinton plan (and elisabeth's for that matter)...and they do not address the issues of out of control malpractice lawsuits and insurance...
They do not understand these things because their parents had to deal with these but the Edwards haven't had to in decades (yes she has cancer but she has great insurance) and the Clintons have never.
Out side of this one faulty issue...the edwards back Obama in spirit...there is no one who went to an Edwards rally ever...that could say differently.
Posted by: dl | May 6, 2008 11:04:39 AM
Edwaeds will come out after the fact just like Richardson such rats. and they will still be snubed by the blue bloods in Washington but crumbs are better than nothing.
Posted by: Bishop | May 6, 2008 10:59:07 AM
John Edwards is a lawyer I wouldn't expect him to endorses anyone, until September.
Posted by: Lookup | May 6, 2008 10:46:26 AM
I see the simpleton minds cannot grasp the fact that the American population can see right through political pandering. Obviously, there are the 30% who lack the ability to grasp abstract thought. They cannot formulate higher level thinking processes that involve cause and effect. It must be frustrating for them not to understand that saving 18 pennies at the pump will not last long because the marketplace will keep raising the prices so they make more money and that the lack of revenue will mean less jobs and less re-building of the infrastructure. But hey if it gets a few simple minded folks to vote for you then it must be worth it.
Posted by: Progressive Democrat | May 6, 2008 10:42:09 AM
Very well said, A Reader in Georgia.
I agree with you completely.
Posted by: janetwickham | May 6, 2008 10:40:53 AM
Again no solution for Gas prices, just more propaganda, but I digress
Who cares who Edwards supports, he is another elitist who makes his money off the back of hard working Americans!!
Posted by: spock | May 6, 2008 10:38:14 AM
I would say that a candidate's "occasional lack of substance" is a serious problem.
But, he likes Obama because he's black.
I would like a black president, and I would like a female president, but that is not their main selling point! Come on!
Posted by: Sarah | May 6, 2008 10:37:47 AM
--the history our nation and the treatment of African American is by far worst then the treatment of women and this nation.--
1/2 of all people are women, Vanessa. One half of AA's, one half of latinos, and 1/2 of all other ethnic groups. Women outnumber any singular ethnic group. After all, there wouldn't be an ethnic group if we didn't give birth to it in the first place. Women did not have the right to vote until 1920, well after black men in this country. Women still make less money than men for the same job (black white or purple) , and women are far under represented in government and business. While it can be debated which is "worse", I think it's clear if you look at the election results, Obama has benefited with AAs for his race while Hillary has not had that same support from women. That, is really telling on how we STILL consider women inferior.. on many levels. Even women, don't support other women. Perhaps we should take a lesson from African Americans. They, after all, know how to support each other as a group, and as a result, they see reforms. Women still haven't figured out to unite for the good of causes we all care about. It's sad.
Posted by: A reader in Georgia | May 6, 2008 10:36:04 AM
I am waiting for him to endorse Obama his views are more like his the Clinton she is the same ole crap and she has no clue as to the middle class and poor in this country Like gas she has NOT paid a cent for 24+ years this country has paid it for her.She does not know what it is to be hungry or cold .Lets elect some one who will change this country
and put the children and people first for a change...Gads lets do it now befoire it is to late and 4 more years of her wonld sink this country,,NOT acceptable.
Posted by: older wh lady | May 6, 2008 10:32:08 AM
70% do not want to pay less for gas. yup. sounds like a Zogby poll to me.
Posted by: geevill | May 6, 2008 10:30:19 AM
Hillary will do very well today, I believe. She is taking it to Obama. He has been playing defense and not an effective defense at that. He's had to fend off Wright, and explain why he's against putting gas tax money back in folks' pockets. And he's tried to attack Hillary for being too tough in language on Iran. He's been forced off the teleprompter circuit and that's bad news for Obama.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | May 6, 2008 10:16:41 AM
Gianelli: If you followed news more closely you would know that Sen. Obama is opposed to the suspension of the federal gas tax in part BECAUSE he supported it in Illinois. He has stated that it did not work in his home state and it was a lesson learned. That is in addition to the fact that the idea is absurd. Americans would save between 25 and 30 dollars over the summer. Moreover, the lost revenue comes from the federal highway fund budget. Economists predict the loss of thousands of federal highway jobs if the tax is suspended. The bottom line: McCain's(Hillary's) plan is a joke. Are Americans so stupid that they believe this idea will help them? If so, Americans get the leadership they deserve.
Posted by: dano | May 6, 2008 10:12:00 AM
Obama's money comes from investment banks and lawyers? Give me a break! The Clintons' money (more than ten times the amount of Obama's) comes from dirty backroom deals, China, the list goes on and on. And at least 20 million more have not been disclosed with their "disclosure" of their tax returns. Obama's money is a mere pittance compared to the Clintons' partially because instead of working for chi-chi law firms Obama was on the streets of Chicago doing community outreach. Money is not a good way for you to make comparisons. The Clintons don't score on the up and up side of the equation when it comes to their finances.
Posted by: nikita | May 6, 2008 10:10:27 AM
I don't know why the topic turned from Edwards to the funding of Obama's campaign...but, I gave for the first time in my life to a political campaign, like 1.5 million Americans!
Some of you posters are ridiculous and the least you could do would be to give Obama credit for running his awesome campaign from a grass roots level, not in debt, like Hillary, and immobilizing the Clinton brand! Remember, this was all supposed to be over on Super Tuesday! What happened? Why can't Hillary close the deal? LOL!
Posted by: Roxanne | May 6, 2008 10:02:47 AM
Funny, no one seems to appreciate the "symbolism" of Hillary being the first female.
Posted by: A reader in Georgia | May 6, 2008 9:59:33 AM
I am for protecting the must vulnerable in our society -- children and lower to no income elderly.
If you screw up the kids no matter what politics you believe, they can't function normally.
On the elderly, our society's underlying principle is that you have a chance to make it but if things break badly based on your choices, you end up with very little. You can end up with very little for a variety of reasons but being old and effectively poor shouldn't mean chronic disease and complete lack of care.
Posted by: Oscar Meyer | May 6, 2008 9:58:59 AM
the majority of Obama's money comes from investment banks and lawyers.
Posted by: trettin | May 6, 2008 9:41:38 AM
Try posting your source on this one. I know for a fact that this is NOT true.
All those who post anti-Obama comments on this and any other website should be challenged to supply their source(s) for their comments. Otherwise, they are just opinion and NOT FACT.
Posted by: GrandmaCDA | May 6, 2008 9:56:36 AM
trettin - your comment is so true....
"the majority of Obama's money comes from investment banks and lawyers."
Regarding the Health Care Issue: We've had enough of bad legislation. Senior Citizen Prescription Program, for one,that lines the pockets of Pharmaceitucal companies, and the education program: No Child Left Behind that is costing hard-hit school budgets a great deal and was not funded. These were 'passable'. We need to get it right the first time around. Just 'passable' doesn't always work well, as we see in these two instances. As hard as it is, it would be easier to do it right the first time. Hillary knows this. I think she's on the right track there.... get it right the first time.
Posted by: SM | May 6, 2008 9:53:42 AM
Obama will win NC big, the AA vote is 40% of the Democratic vote...
IN will be close... Obama had a rally yestreday and attracted 21,000+ Hoosiers
Posted by: Vanessa | May 6, 2008 9:51:07 AM
Occasional lack of substance? Not even John Edwards could not name a single Obama plan or idea
Posted by: geevill | May 6, 2008 9:50:42 AM
I so agree with I Dunno But and I have been telling everyone that I know that Obama's healthcare plan will work because it will take "baby steps" to eventually reach our goal of universal health care. Our schools, police & fire departments do not make a profit and neither should a basic right of taking care of the least of our brethren. Hillary is so devisive and secretive, just as she was in her husband's administration, that she would never get her plan passed.
As far as the Edwards:
Like: his stand on poverty
Dislike: his inability to take a stand on this election...he is not an elder of this party and he's lost my respect in this regard.
Posted by: Roxanne | May 6, 2008 9:49:09 AM
John Edwards likes Obama because heis black?
Posted by: geevill | May 6, 2008 9:47:08 AM
the majority of Obama's money comes from investment banks and lawyers.
Posted by: trettin | May 6, 2008 9:41:38 AM
Seems like the one thing they BOTH agree on would be the special interests and lobbyist money the Clintons are so tangled up in. That is such a bit part of what is wrong with our economy. The hedge funds alone caused massive shock waves on subprime and Bill Clinton is a hedge fund king. My bet is they vote for Obama.
Obamas health care may not be the end all for them but it is ONE THAT CAN BE PASSED and it covers the most vunerable...the children. You have to pick your battles...you don't eat the whole elephant in one bite.
Posted by: I Dunno But | May 6, 2008 9:39:56 AM
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