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Hillary Clinton assisted George Bush in bringing us the Iraq war resulting in the death of over 4000 American personnel. She is definitely no “sweetie.”

Hillary Clinton voted to adopt the resolution to declare
Iran a "terrorist organization" thereby enabling Bush to invade Iran.

Hillary spoke of "obliterating" Iran.

Hillary always speaks of herself as being a “fighter,” when what we need is a statesman. Bush was the “fighter,” the kind who sends others to fight because of his lack of judgment.“ A fighter like that we don’t need. We need someone who will want to negotiate, compromise. Hillary is not the person with the judgment necessary to take the office of commander in chief - "from day one," or from any other time.

Why must American presidential candidates swear fealty to Israel and mouth their talking points all the time?

We give the Israelis billions and billions of dollars every year -- why do they own us?

Posted by: hass | May 13, 2008 4:56:33 PM
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I agree 100%. The United States has given over 250 billion since we were complicit in giving the jews land belonging to the Palestinians. This is money that could have been used for our own citizens. I look forward to the day when the Zionists start financing their own society. They take some of the weapons we furnish them to use for defense, namely cluster bombs, and use them to bomb, schools, homes, business and apartment buildings. Let these monsters buy their own weapons.

The Obama folks that continually denigrate HRC supporters remind me everyday of Dubya.

Their pernicious, insipid comments are as vacuous and self-destructive as Bush's "bring it on" idiocy.

As such, their comments and behavior will have disasterous results for them and their chosen one.

I suggest they also keep in mind the "Mission Acomplished" pronouncement. That has not turned out so well either.

Obama and Bush have much in common when it comes to supposition, false bravado, and wishful thinking.

We HRC supporters are Obama's "Waterloo", now or the GE. Either way he loses.

Any so-called Democrat that chooses to vote for Hillary is either a Republican or a bigot. She is in no way liberal (open-minded), she panders way way too much to the wrong kind of crowds, and she's made her beliefs pretty clear that white people won't vote for a black man like Obama. So either she's a bigot, or she thinks the people who vote for her are bigots. Which is it? There's nothing about her that would make her a good President. Unfortunately, if it was a choice between her and McCain, I would have to vote for her because a vote for McCain is a sure-bet vote for Bush, while a vote for Clinton, is a toss-up. Obama is the only candidate who actually has morals and by the comments that I've read here, many are happy to just keep their blinders on and see the facts that are clear as day. Say what you want about Obama, he's a much, much better choice than the other two.

Why must American presidential candidates swear fealty to Israel and mouth their talking points all the time?

We give the Israelis billions and billions of dollars every year -- why do they own us?

kevinbe goode;

I have never been a Republican nor am I yet!

But my COUNTRY is a hell of a lot more important to me than the screwed up
dumb dumb DNC..... which apparently needs a D&C.....

My vote is forever Hillary! and should that option be taken from me.... then I will be happy to cross the street!

As another Illinoisan, I'm not surprised by any twisting of anything from a Republican. . .especially those posing as Democrats on discussion forums in a desperate attempt to encourage the weakest candidate to ascend to the nomination.

Whenever I see one of those clowns endorse McCain, it is obvious what their political stripes really are - and how they love America SOOOOO much that they'd practice any level of deception to get what they want.

Something about this whole interview fails the logic test. I mean, why should ANY American candidate be judged on his devout loyalty to another country? It is absurd when you think about it. Would we expect Obama to be vetted about his loyalty and admiration for Canadians, Swedes, Italians, the Protestant Irish?

Too many Americans are Isreali-centric in their views, and that is not in this country's best interest.

I think Obama speaks for the vast majority of reasonable Americans. Some of the hard core Likudnics who posted above are clearly out of step with mainstream America and the beliefs of our founding fathers who advised us not to get tangled up in grievances that have nothing to do with us.

He will be a great president and the racists and rednecks will just have to come to terms with their inner demons.

Carpenter NY

EXACTLY!

For six years, Obama did nothing which was in anyway politically notable.

In his final year as state senator, Emil Jones decided to push B O into the big time, and gave him all an unbelievable number of bills to call his own and have stamped in his behalf!

Check it out!
He was an empty suit then, and he's an empty suit now!

The only reason people in Illinois would have voted for him would have been to have him stay the hell out of ILlinois....

As an Illinoisian... I'll stick with Hillary as long she's running.... and should she not be the nominee... I'm taking my big feet away from this broken, Humpty Dumpty of a DNC as fast as I possibly can....

At least MCain has done SOMETHING worthy in his life!

Politicians comments are taken out of context all the time. Mccain's 100 years and Clinton's obliterate Iran. This will not be the first time and it wont be the last time it happens to Obama. He had better toughen up he has a long way to go.

Obama has a call center in Gaza and he is receiving campaign donations from the middle east. Any chance that Obama will return his Hamas money? As long as Zbig Brezinski is Obama's foreign policy advisor, Obama will be losing the Jewish vote. Obama will have to explain his relationships with Edward Said and Rashid Khalidi as well. Flip flop Obama. Donna Brazile and Howard Dean must be so proud of their driving, their bus is going right off the cliff.

Obama's problem in this interview is that he talks about Israel needing to look at a mirror, but he is barely critical of the Palestinians.
His failure to talk about the pressures he'd put on Palestine/Hamas opened him up to the attacks he's getting now.
I don't think he thinks Israel is a sore, but if you look at the interview to determine what he'd do to help Israel and solve this conflict, his plan seems to be telling Israel they need to behave better.

I'm here cause I care about My Country and WHERE My Taxes Dollars are going to.

I want the Majority of My Tax Dollars to STAY in this Country and help us first.

This Obama comes across as someone I cannot trust to handle our Country's woes/issues now.

I also have a really hard time trusting the man himself.

Which inturn inspires all this chatter.

My friends feel the same way.

Obama speaks to us as if he only wants to say what we want to hear but not TRUTHFULLY what he himself believes.

And alot of it has to do with his Background and Associations and even his Wife.

My friends and I might not agree on everything, but fundamentally we feel very strong about our country and we want to make sure it's in the HANDS of someone we can TRUST.

And we do not Trust Obama.

Nader vs. Obama!

I just got this in my Inbox from Nader campaign:

On Meet the Press on May 4, Senator Obama told Tim Russert that he was willing to debate with "any of my opponents about what this country means, what makes it great."

Senator Obama!

What a breath of fresh air!

Finally!

A Democratic presidential candidate who is willing to debate the corporate takeover of our democracy!

Can't wait.

Nader v. Obama.

Nader and Obama could barnstorm the state - can you say Lincoln-Douglas? - debating public health insurance, curbing the excesses of the oil industry, reversing U.S. policy in the Middle East, and the corporate takeover of our democracy.

What a breath of fresh air!

Just read the comments and noticed that nearly all have NOTHING to do with the article. I guess republicans telling lies is just to old news for anyone to care.

I can't wait to see the republicans try to swiftboat Obam this year. McCain was already rebuffed and the last people who voted (NC & IN) rejected the pandering and the clinging to the guilt-by-association game. Shaking up the whole system is the best thing for us as a nation. I hope all the negative people out there find something else to cry about after November.

carpenter-nyc I feel your pain. Unfortunately there is always one out there that is an idiot. Last Friday they did the same thing to me. They appear to be very juevenile.

Well, now, let's not get ahead of ourselves. I'm doubtful McCain could kick a football.

Obama can say what he wants .. now ... but he does not support Israel ... his pathetic criticism of Hillary's stance on what the U.S. would do if Iran attacked Israel made his feelings very clear. As his Rev said .. he is a politician ... don't trust him!

I am so FLATTERED TO BE NOTICED by someone enough to want to Copy Me....

Thank You to the Other carpenter.nyc.

lol.

We should all be carpenter.nyc.

If you Obama supporters would just stop and think about it. Would a man that Obama claims to be allow his supporters to say nasty things about Hillary. NO but he does because he is NOT what he claims to be. Infact he is no man at all because he gets his supporters to do his dirty work for him. He is a coward and does not have the bxlls to stand up and do his own dirty work. Typical spinless layer. He is not fit to shin Hillary's shoes. He is nothing but an empty suit that has only one thing going for him, the RACE CARD!

NOT ME AGAIN.... But I am Flattered...!!

If you Obama supporters would just stop and think about it. Would a man that Obama claims to be allow his supporters to say nasty things about Hillary. NO but he does because he is NOT what he claims to be. Infact he is no man at all because he gets his supporters to do his dirty work for him. He is a coward and does not have the bxlls to stand up and do his own dirty work. Typical spinless layer. He is not fit to shin Hillary's shoes. He is nothing but an empty suit that has only one thing going for him, the RACE CARD!

give the republicans 4 more years, then the dems or what is left of the dems can try to clean up

Obama copies Clinton's positions.
Obama bloggers copy other poster's names.

So why are Obama bloggers continuing to attack Clinton when he is the nominee?

What are the chances of becoming First Lady of the US? 1 in 300 million?

Everytime a superdelegate endorses oblama for the unity of the party, for me it just drives another wedge and further splits the party. I am voting McCain and proud to.

IN 1996, Hillary Clinton's Rose law firm billing records, sought for two years by congressional investigators and the special prosecutor were found in the back room of the personal residence at the White House. Clinton said she had no idea how they got there.

WHEN ASKED
Which should be more important in choosing a party's nominee for president?
Delegate count OR Popular vote - 80% Said Popular vote
And
Obama and his supporters said the Superdelegates should not go against the WILL OF THE PEOPLE well the popular vote is the WILL OF THE

Hillary Or McCain 2008

Dude, geevil, read your own post. Webster Hubbell defrauded former law partners. HILLARY CLINTON was a former law partner. Means she was a VICTIM of the defrauding, rather than a perpetrator. Sheesh.

Progressive...are you a paid blogger for the Reps...?

By "dead ender Hillary supporters," do you happen to mean new McCain supporters?

I'm tired of this "let's unify the party" talk. That is code for "shut up and fall in line."

When is Obama going to visit Florida? That should be good for a laugh.

Oh, the brilliant techno savy have learned to sock puppet. LMAO. The two most pathetic groups in America, the dead ender Hillary supporters and the 27% Right Wing GOP bush supporters.

Obama's new concern about Israel is just Pandering for votes just like his new concern now for Florida and Michigan
Why would Obama speak before a muslim group asking for assistance for Palestine in 1990? This concern about Israel by Obama is just so much political rhetric.

Anyone got a copy of the Trumpet magazines with Obama on the cover??????

geevill

AXELORD got rid of that issue into Oblivion.
Word is out to all of Farrakhan Supporters to step back and wait til Obama wins, then they will take over, maybe one or more of them will have a seat in Obama's Cabinet, He already does in his Campaign.

Hillary wants to spend 2 trillion dollars so every man, woman and child will get 20,000 dollars from the government for a jump start on a savings program. Dammit, she will buy your vote if she has to.

carpenter...if you check the Ill senate site you will see Obama was involved witht he passing of 4 new laws, on of which gave health care to poor kids. Hillary was involved with passing the same number. It is public record. You can go on line in the portal at NY and Ill web site under legislature and view them. BTW.. I find it amusing that you would use the name carpentor since Jesus was one also. I don't think he would be judging people the way you are...

Hillary wants to make the Oil companies wealthier by a political tax roll back gimmick. Only her uneducated base will fall for this pandering. She is willing to give up Federal Highway dollars and let bridges collapse and unemploy over 300,000 workers just so the Oil companies can make even more money. Pathetic.

Anyone got a copy of the Trumpet magazines with Obama on the cover??????

Perhaps 100,000 dead in Myammar. Perhaps 20000 or more in China.
Tornados coming again this week.

We could take a day off from this poison called 'blogging' and pray for the dead and their families. We could.

Not likely but we could.

Obama will unite us the same way Bushie united us, we will end up agaist him!! What is bushie's approval rating? Well, obama will be happy to have an approval rating that high.

A,

Notes? What notes? What about Hillary's notes and Bill's notes? Hmmm... His Illinois senate records are a matter of public record. You want him to release his private notes? Well then that is a double standard. Typical Clinton supporter with their flawed logic. You must be part of the base Hillary refers to.

Why Obama does mot release his IL Senate notes?

Cause then everyone will see that nothing was really done by Obama
EMIL JONES, the State Senate Leader has FIXED all the BOOKS.....EVERYONE IN CHICAGO KNOWS THIS.

It's about time the rest of us know as well.

Emil Jones was Obama's POLITICAL GODFATHER, HE MADE OBAMA WHILE HE WAS THERE.

Thank God for GOOGLE.

Obama never had any problem twisting HIllary or Bill's words and blatently misrepresenting them.

Too bad, he's playing with the big boys now and he's going to lose.

A,

Why Obama does mot release his IL Senate notes? He says he has none!!! LOL

Obama wants to spend 800 BILLION DOLLARS of our Tax Money to Help the Poor around the world. (Africa,etc)

STOP HIM.

WE need this funding to stay here.

Briana...maybe you can tell us what McCains views are on immigration?

dl...well said...we need to focus on the issues, whomever the candidate will be. Bickering over stupid crap is such a waste of energy. Does anyone want to talk the economy, gas prices, health care... ?

I think that John McCains view on Immigration will have him take it all!

dl they never take care of are vets this is bs pnader pander pander do you know they have to pay for thier uniforms thier pay sucks and they have to fight for everthing and they always go on about the gi bill my husband got $300.00 a month for two years for school we tried to by a house thru va it was faster to get an FHA loan. They just sunk the ship my Husband was on during Nam of the coast of Fla. USS Spigel Grove 32 troop carrier watch who who you call a liar.

A ...all of the candidates and their wives were requested to do this. Everyone but McCains wife has done this. They are looking to money being drawn from her to back his campaign. Nothing wrong with that but why is the secret?

A "correction" from Boehner? Not likely. Each GOPer who slammed Obama for this non-controversy knew there was nothing to go on. Or else they let their smarmy little aides run their lives.

trettin...no one needs help twisting McCains words...he does just fine himself...with a little help from Liberman checking his "bearings."

You cannot reverse the stages of becoming a PICKLE.

Obama was soaking in the Words of the Black Liberation Theology for 20 years.

You can not come out of a vat of Brine and wash off the salt.

It's soaked into the center of your core.

formerhillary

Why should she?

Progressive Democrat

I wonder why Obama doesn't release his Illinois Senate notes.

America is tired and sick of the dumb people who want to ignore our economy, ignore the war issue, ignore the aging supreme court, ignore the environment, ignore our standing in the world

ignore everything that is killing us...

so they can talk about rev Wright because their candidate lost.

The Palestines and the Muslims Extremists were DANCING IN THE STREETS when they CRASHED 2 PLANES INTO OUR CITY/BUILDINGS. (and the Pentagon and Pennsylvaina )( sure Ayers was drinking/toasting with Champayne when they Bombed the Pentagon)

And they will dance again in the streets when Obama wins the Nomination.

To me it just proves Bloomberg can buy an office.

Bishop

I think if that is true...I do not know how you could make Hagel out to be a bad thing...all he does is fight for veterans and our soldiers.

Yet you make him out to be bad.

So forgive me but I can't see how all your relatives that are serving are served by you taking him as choice as a bad thing. Unless you are misinformed.

Hagel is the one republican that has consistently tried to save your relatives from harm.

Hagel was not preaching to McCain for 20 Years,
Hagel did not Bless McCain's House, Hagel did not Baptize McCain's Kids, Hagel did not marry the McCains,

Obama has been to ProPalestine Parties, helped raise money for them AND HAS MONETARY SUPPORT FROM PRO PALESTINE GROUPS.

Hamas Kills their own Daughters, and Sons on behalf of their Radical Beliefs, They WANT OBAMA TO BECOME THE PRESIDENT.

PUBLICALLY OBAMA HAS NOT DENOUCE THE ATROCITIES OF THIS EXTREMIST STATE-----

OBAMA VALIDATES THE HAMAS AS REAL LEADERS TO SOMEDAY TALK/NEGOTIATE WITH--- WHEN ALL THEY ARE -ARE A BUNCH OF THUGS/GANGS TERRORIZING THE WORLD !

cindyct

A bit of exageration this morning to go with your coffee?

dl my father,husband, and son have all fought so you don't have to tell me any thing about the service my sister lost her only son on Dec8th 2006 In Iraq We are the uneducated low info voters that will never vote Obama and Hagel we are the Mothers that rasie up real men.

After 40 years of voting the democratic ticket, I'm out of here! The party no longer represents true values. The likes of Kennedy and Pelosi make me ill. They are heading down the road to socialism.

I do not believe Obama speaks for himself. Rather, he says what Dean and company tell him to say.

geevil

clinton didn't play patty cake...she through a punch and then ran behind coattails like a kid who stabs his sibling and then when the other candidate who is not doing anything turns to say anything...she claims "Daddy he is going to hit me"

She stabbed with all she had...and lost.

Unfortunately she not only stabbed Barack who was our strongest and ultimate player but hurt the team we needed to win for the future of our country.

...and you continue what she started... Obama won't play dirty pool with his own team (because that is what a president SHOULD do) but if the other team plays ...he'll bury them.

We'll bury them.

Do you know what Committee to Liberate Iraq is?

I saw on CNN, Fox and MSNBC reports on how racist and religion based this presidentail race has been. All the specialists and advisores who spoke said they have NEVER seen such negativity towards a persons race, gender and religion. This included Hillary. We shoudl be agueing about the issues...this is what will make a GREAT president, whether Hillary or Obama...

Bishop do you even realize what Hagel is fighting for today? Do you know he is fighting to give our soldiers who protected YOU the rights and thanks that they deserve.

Do you get that.

Hagel isn't my first choice but let me tell you isn't that exactly what we need to get away from... not being able to reachh across party lines...and have people like you commenting as if they are the enemy.

The enemy is anyone who thinks this war and our imperialist and aggressive image in the world is helping us and does not recognize what it is doing to our economy and security, our dependence on oil before a fake gas tax, our need to reachj across and (no matter how strong our differences on other issues) to solve the big problems at hand.

Hagel is not a bad man. and many soldiers coming home are glad somebody is acknowledging what they are due.

countallthevotes:

well said!

he is famous for doing this. blu blu blunder.

older lady...you are so right... the majority of people who are spewing racial slurs and untruths are Hillary supproter. I believe this is because they feel she has been wronged in some way. I heard Bill Clinton, in a speech yesterday, refer to blacks as "those people". I was astonished!! The blacks were his base when he ran for president. How soon they forget.

What's the problem there dl,

Can't handle the truth? Truth is CLinton has played patty cake with Obama -the ugly history of Obama and his Muslim supporters has not been touched yet.

How can Obama have Zbig Brezinski as one of his foreign policy campaign advisors, in addition to the now departed Robert Malley, and claim in any way to be pro-Israel? Obama flip flops on issues. Obama says what he needs to say to each constituency. But pictures speak a thousand words, and there is no taking back the picture of Obama with his arm around Edward Said at a dinner honoring Said.

Whether Obama was referring to the Israeli Palestinian conflict or just Israel as the "sore" that infects our foreign policy, his words show a complete disrespect for the situation in that there is little regard for the historical significance of the divergent positions and complexities. Note, it is a sore; it infects us. Not nice and will win no Nobel Peace Prize. The words were ill chosen, at best. He is prone to this in depicting human conditions and situations as if he is some new age clinical anthropologist. I once heard him describe white suburban kids who wear hip hop clothes as the result of "cross pollination" from black kids in the inner city.

While his metaphorical/anthropological language is intersting from a literary stand point, it can and does offend many.

Bottom line, bad use of language, even if Obama meant the conflict.

Obama is the uniter...some of these commenters on here (with their selective and tactical facts that keep our eye off the ball for this country) and Boehner and Hannity...

are dividing/ destroying what America is and represents.

Obama/Hagel tell me we were not set up.
When the media starts this kind of buzz it being tested he has said he is leaving Republicans and democrats men coming together what a bunch of low lifes this is gender based .

Geevil and Al do you realize that all of these comments you make are not really helpful and most of the time...selective truths...which really renders them not true.

You print that entire world besides Fox and Hillary supporters are lying and "protecting" their "golden child" Obama.

Do you realize to any normal human being how stupid that sounds? bot just that but like a childish argument from someone who is angry that they did not get what they wanted...

raise the discourse ...talk about policy.

Oh yeah that's right on policy and issues like economy, our standing in the world, the war, etc... you can't win your argument and that makes you mad.

The world and our country needs a better discourse than Boehner and you all are offering.

Obama's chickens coming home to rooooooooooooooost!

How about reporting on the "Arab" programs Obama and his rich Muslim supporters instituted at the University of Chicago? There are many interesting Arab/Muslim backers of Obama besides Rezko. Or will we have to wait for the 527's to educate America?

Whatever. Obama Jewish support is 61% and falling. The lowest of any Democrat since Carter in 1980. Even McGovern had a higher share.