The Protests Outside

As they say in Chicago, the fix is in. This Presidential primary election was never going to be fair. Now the Democratic nominee must be determined behind closed doors. This the change we can believe in: Barack Obama = Politics, Chicago Style.

Unshrub....Obama is welcome to declare himself the winner if he wishes. But he cannot "win" without the official superdelegate tally in Denver....actually he cannot win without superdelegates.

I think Hillary should play by the "rules"and take it to Denver. Kennedy went to the Convention 700 delegates down....win lose or draw I will stick with the candidate who has a great track record of helping children and minorities throughout her lifetime.

Hillary Clinton has a true record of making a difference. I was a community organizer in the 80's and that's not a real recommendation for the presidency.Obama's record in the State Senate was undistinquished...all he's done in the US Senate is run for president.

McCain has his failings but he did stop the torture that was a policy in the Bush Whitehouse....and he has often stood up to Republicans when they had bad policies....Did you know John Kerry wanted McCain to run with him 4 years ago?

McCain is a different kind of Republican. He has a track record of reaching across the aisle and doing the right thing. He will end the corrupt "pork barrel" policies that are much more damaging to the economy than special interests...and more expensive to the taxpayers too.

Obama started his career by throwing his friend and mentor Alice Palmer under the bus and he has practiced the Black Liberation Theology for 20 years.

Say NO to Obama.

Some people take their own reality for truth. Oh they are the whole world, taking the rest for granted.
The ridicule tactics work for the youth and
easy-to-scare people.
Opinions are not built in one day, it will take more than months to undo people deep thinking.
There is to-day and there is to-morrow,
what goes up will go down,
but there is no harm in learning where go the ways.

The one thing that's astonishing about this campaign is how many Clinton supporters believe various things that aren't remotely the truth - her popular vote fable, dissing Obama about Rezko when she has giant skeletons in her closet in comparison, Ayers when Bill Clinton sold pardons including to far worse people than Ayers, etc. Where is she finding these people?

Actually, many people happen to vote the individual and not the Party. This time, the Democratic Party has shown it has gone its own way, leaving millions of people dissatisfied.
The Party has shown all along its preference for BO.
The factor of time "here and now" will be playing since it did not play during the race.
Why did the media not play its role and real press coverage and examine BO candidacy thoroughly as they did for HC?
The "here and now" factor would have played earlier and millions of people would have thought more before supporting BO.
It seems very clearly that the fate of Hillary was sealed from the beginning, given the funny caucus system of delegates allocation and the role the press and media have played.
Instead of talking about policy and economy, all the attention was drawn on Hillary's ankles, tone of voice, tears, what have you.
The FL and MI is an attempt, and it's good that it has been made, to express the frustrations of Hillary supporters towards the conjunctural disgrace of the process.
In sport game, what is exciting is to see the two teams or the two performers play out in front of the eyes of the public and the one losing bow out and shake hands with the winner.
In this primary, this didn't happen.
The playfield is the public sphere of puclic debates, with the two candidates showing what they are worth and the public choosing, that is supposed to be part of the rule.
The debates were mostly replaced by character assassination of Hillary Clinton by BO supporters with the support of the media.
BO didn't want to debate too much.
There is no dealing with "here and now" factor like in sport. The Democratic Party had already their nominee and the question is how to play out as if it's a real race.
From the point of view of HC campaign and her supporters, the FL and MI issue is playing by the "here and now" attempt. There is no strategy.
From the point of view of the DNC and BO campaign, it's playing the strategy of "let's deal with this in such a manner that looks fair, knowing that it's flawed all along the way". But what they have succeeded haven't they?
But may be not quite yet, the "here and there" factor may play now that they head towards November.
The BO campaign won't have a free ride from all the media.
They have the republicans machine to deal with.
And the many voters who haven't seen anything they can approve from the way they have been treated, they will be part of the "here and now" factor.

Don't think Hillary did herself any good by bussing in these hectoring, irrational shills. Nor did Harold Ickes serve her well with his profane blustering and threats. If these fools are going to support McCain, I hope the country gets to see them on tv every day!

DNC has declared John McCain as a winner today. Congratulation to Mr. new President John McCain.

Women we will NEVER BE GIVEN anything!!!

To become President you have to follow the rules and ACTUALLY WIN.

The bottom line: HILLARY LOSES EVEN WHEN MI AND FL ARE COUNTED.

Why should we expect special treatment?

Posted by: Doug | Jun 1, 2008 12:33:14 AM

it is our "illustrious" dem congress that continues to fund the war. that is why there are suppose to be checks and balances. So much for pelosi and reid.
mccain says we will leave iraq, and leave a contingent behind. same idea as bho and hillary, just different words. 100 years? sounds like korea to me...

I am fed up with the juvenile sore-loser tantrums of Clinton supporters.

Why are we Dems in the first place?

I am one of those who hasn't gotten over Al Gore and HELL WILL HAVE TO FREEZE BEFORE I VOTE MCCAIN.

Go ahead and vote for McCain. Then say goodbye to your Social Security checks you old hags.

Posted by: tired | Jun 1, 2008 12:24:06 AM

true, we vote mccain.

Ann

I believe you are right. It would be foolish for the Dems to do otherwise. We can have a little fun here, but I believe, that even those "hard-working, people, WHITE people", don't want to see more war, more homelessness, more school shootings and crime, more hunger, more environmental violations, or even more abused animals, and will do the right thing in the privacy of that voting booth ...

Joyce

Thank you, you are right. Even Hillary herself said she would campaign for Obama should he win the nomination. And she is not stupid. She has toned down her negative tone regarding him IN CASE she has to, and why not? Whenver she hits a town with her one press-person and 3 staffers, to address a crowd of 226 people, who is going to hear it anyway? Even the likes of James Carville said if Obama wins, he would be the first to write him a check for the full amount allowed. Come on pp, get on your party's bandwagon!!

Be honest pp; insults have been fired from both sides.

Posted by: Maggie | May 31, 2008 11:29:19 PM

i agree! the bho supporters defile hillary, talk horribly about her supporters, and then expect hillary to campaign for bho and us to vote for him. give me a break.

Eye wide open

And Obama is not threatening to keep THEM there for another 100 years, either. Nor has he lied on any of them and insinuate that they did not protect him from enemy crossfire. Face it, the more "they" try to bring Obama down, the stronger he gets. Who is "they"? Perhaps we should ask Bill Clinton, lol!! Also, who cares whether Obama eats porkbellies? I would rather that then my female president be seen on international television drinking a shot and a beer!! Oh, by the way. I don't see candidate supporters as "followers". I see them as our servants (public servants, get it?).

Yes, it would be nice if we could debate in a CIVIL MANNER.

As for me, I am a new Obama supporter.

8 years of Bush have left me too wary and too angry to vote Mccain.

So even though I wish Hillary would have made it (with less of Bill), I am turning the page and looking to a good fall for Dems.

That Hillary supporter was filled with hate.

questioner | May 31, 2008 10:52:31 PM

Biden, Edwards, Obama & Richardson all took their names off of the MI ballot.

Candidates who wanted to take their names off of the FL ballot would have had to drop out of the race in order to do so.