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May 16, 2008 9:25 AM
FROM GUEST-BLOGGER RICK KLEIN, FROM ABC'S THE NOTE:
Is it possible that Barack Obama's endorsement by John Edwards wasn't even close to being the most important story of the week?
Not discounting the psychological lift Obama derived from that well-timed endorsement, here are four nominees for storylines that could wind up being more important in the not-so-long run:
1. President Bush "welcoming" Barack Obama to the general election with a not-so-veiled swipe at his foreign policy.
2. The California gay-marriage ruling, which means same-sex weddings are set to be performed in the nation's largest state.
3. The devastating GOP loss of a House seat in a red pocket of the red state of Mississippi.
4. The anger that's starting to bubble up from Hillary Clinton's female supporters over how the Democratic nomination fight has played out.
This list doesn't even include the remarkable speech John McCain delivered Thursday -- overshadowed by the president's comments in Israel -- where he tacked toward the center on Iraq, and went point-by-point on how his White House would look and feel different than President Bush's.
Or the fact that Obama lost a swing state by 41 points, a week after essentially being anointed as the Democratic nominee.
These are disparate storylines, but all shift the landscape of the general election campaign before it formally begins.
In today's Note, we round up all of it, under the title "Caveat Victor," or "winner beware." It all speaks to the lack of flexibility Obama will enjoy if/when he becomes the Democratic nominee. It's partly a function of this overtime primary, but it's also a result of the always unpredictable world of national politics.
What's the single more important thing Obama has to do if/when he wins the nomination?
-- Rick Klein
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You just have to read comments posted by die-hard Hillary supporters to see what kind of la-la land they are still lingering in, along with their Mountain Mama.
They are so in the past, future is definitely brighter without them.
Posted by: BoB | May 17, 2008 1:05:29 PM
Maybe regarding the 57 states comment, Obama made a Freudian slip.
Perhaps he was thinking of Islamic states. There are exactly 57 of them.
Source: Organization of the Islamic Conference
Posted by: Teaxas Mike | May 17, 2008 2:44:05 AM
Mr Klein,
You have a new fan because you have given us new perspectives to comment on.
Posted by: John_Lai | May 16, 2008 6:34:49 PM
By all standard, he doesn't win the nomination. He is trying to steal it.
If the Florida and Michigan revote is solved long ago, the election will have a different picture.
If his 20 years of audacity and hope with Rev Wright was reported, his election campaign will go to jelly beans. Now it still matters. 20 years of deplorable judgment.
He obviously holds a double standard. White advisers making mistake is a ticket of automatic out. For the black, he will just let bygones be bygones.
In this election, with the closest match in history, we need to go to convention to vote for the strongest candidate now, not 3 months ago.
The best and strongest candidate is Hillary now.
The 92% of black votes can go to hell by voting like that. If whites are voting 92% against BO, you can hear fouls across Atlantic. Today it is racism in the reverse direction. Let's fight as hard as we can.
BO does not win nomination. He steals it and the party keeps their eyes closed and even stumps for him.
SHAME. HE IS JUST A SCREW BALL, A GUTTER BALL.
He is just out of touch hiding behind podiums and is afraid that people finds out that he is no reformer. He is just a talker.
Posted by: John_Lai | May 16, 2008 6:29:43 PM
Mary, what you said goes to my point: if he is as strong as they say why does he need a loser like Edwards to rescue him? The reason why Hillary's campaign is still alive is because too many people think that she is stronger... one can't overlook that reality!
Posted by: Robin | May 16, 2008 3:59:50 PM
Senator Obama becomes a more pathetic figure every day and he is using his Good Ole Boys Network and the 'bought and paid for superdelegates' to prop himself up. He makes so many beautiful speeches full of bogus pomises just as he did in 1996 to get elected in his state senate district. He did nothing to bring the district out of despair and proverty, yet says he can FIX the USA and the world. Such marlarky.
Posted by: Mary | May 16, 2008 2:58:21 PM
Simply:
1. Without Clintons, Dems would never be united and will be defeated..
2. Without Clintons on ticket, Dems won't be united and will be defeated..
3. Without Clinton on the top of ticket, Dems will still be defeated..
4. With Clinton runs as Ind, Dems will be defeated...
Posted by: True Truth | May 16, 2008 12:46:08 PM
He didn't say contests he said states. Under normal circumstances, no big deal, honest mistake. But since his campaign makes a practice of harping on McCain's mis-speaks, he is held to the same standard.
Posted by: Mack | May 16, 2008 12:44:21 PM
And in a Monday Rasmussen Poll, AFTER the May 6th primary there...
McCain would beat BOTH HRC and B.O. by 3% in NORTH CAROLINA....the state in which the media and the DNC felt his victory over Hillary was so overwhelming that they would just hand him the nomination on a silver platter!!!
More numbers to chew on:
In a May 8th Rasmussen Poll for Missouri (the ONE "swing" state where B.O. barely beat HRC), shows McCain slightly ahead by 3% over HRC (within the traditional margin of error), while McCain beats B.O. in Missouri by 6%.
Georgia (another early B.O. victory state over HRC): McCain would beat B.O. by 14%, but would only beat HRC by 11%.
The list goes on and on..........
Posted by: SandyB | May 16, 2008 12:40:15 PM
dl,
Are you implying that Obama will be elected in November just because the people are disappointed with Bush?
What policies are you saying that they will look at and make a difference? A health insurance plan that leaves out 15 million Americans and will throw their medical bills on the rest of us? Meeting with prominent world dictators without preconditions? Even George Stephanopoulus' round table Obamanites agree that his economic agenda is weak and he cannot beat McCain there.
Do you think, on the other hand, that he will unify us with good speeches? Isn't it obvious that he has already electrified as many as he would with his empty rhetoric and his base of support has remained unchanged
from the beginning of the race for the nomination?
What bothers me most is the Caucus system. In Texas, for one, nearly three million people voted in the primary that
Hillary won and Obama got the most delegates by winning the caucus where only 40,000 participated. That is absurd, and is why the Democratic Party is in total chaos.
Good job Rick Klein, you are a responsible journalist. This country needs more like you.
Posted by: Robin | May 16, 2008 12:39:56 PM
Debbie,
Obama is right.
There are 57 contests (primaries/caucauses).
51 State Contests (49 States & 2 in Texas)
6 Other Contests
American Samoa
Democrats Abroad
District of Columbia
Guam
Puerto Rico
Virgin Islands
Posted by: Steve_NJ | May 16, 2008 12:30:29 PM
I guess it's a matter of how Obama "wins" the election. If he decides to declare himself the winner based on the vagaries of having the "majority of the pledged delegates" after May 20th and the DNC is complicit, then the party along with his candidacy could splinter badly.
Clinton is getting a lot of blame for staying in a very close race from her Democratic peers, yet there's silence about Obama's coup style of seizing the nomination. This is just one of the many double standard twists and turns the race has taken.
There's also not anything being said on the strong probability that neither candidate can win at the June 3rd conclusion. After the WVA election, Obama had secured 1883 to Clinton's 1717 delegate votes. With the remaining six states, there are 189 delegate votes left. To reach the goalpost of 2025 delegate votes by June 3rd, Obama would have to carry 142 or 75% of the remaining delegate votes, which is highly improbable. Of course, Clinton will not have the 318 votes to carry her to the goalpost by then.
It's apparent the 2025 delegate counts is for neither to win by June 3. If Obama, aka the Uniter, seeks to proclaim his victory on May 20th, he would indeed alienate many Democratic voters. By rules and numbers, the stalemate could be carried to the Denver convention, which is something McGovern, who was supposed to have reformed the system, is apparently losing sleep over. Enough said.
Posted by: katrina | May 16, 2008 12:27:03 PM
Hillary is just an empty pantsuit!
Posted by: sillylilly | May 16, 2008 12:24:33 PM
@Mona - "America is going to elect a well filled out pant-suit!!!"
lol, I Loved it! ROFLMAO!!!
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!'08
Posted by: LeeLee07 | May 16, 2008 12:11:43 PM
What is this impostor talking about? Please bring Jake back. He called McCain's speech remarkable, what is RICK KLEIN smoking? What is remarkable about McCain's speech? Is McCain old man Moses in the bible that would part the Red Sea for everyone to go thru? Does he expect McWar to clap his hands and make the world a better place? McCain views are not only delusional, they are also comments from a senile man.
Posted by: Oretga | May 16, 2008 12:09:38 PM
I don't know how people don't put some thinking and realize that he is a weird persona, a magician in a suit of a politician.
Just go to the realclear politics site there are a couple of articles very well written and that dare say something about him.
Why do I think he is a magician? There is like a veil, a net, even though invisible but at work wrapping people rationale and preventing them from thinking correctly. And the reactions of the supporters from both side, very irrational, either blindly supporting, or instinctly rejecting. Any other candidate provokes the same kind of reaction?
The other day, I heard like a voice in my head telling me that he is ok, to like him. For some minutes, I thought so and then I said to myself, wait a minute what is that voice telling me what to think and how to feel. And I thought of the epiphany he promised the supporters in a rally, was that in New Hampshire, some time during that period of campaigning, and that by experiencing it, they would go out and vote for him.
He is weird and everyone is weird, including myself with my fear, there is somthing not clear. I may sound ridiculous, but it's better that I say it and I don't have to regret later not to have expressed my doubts.
Posted by: Jane | May 16, 2008 12:08:42 PM
Don't worry... Obama will make a speech and all of the world's problems will go away.
"A delusion of appeasement" I think that describes Obama perfectly.
Posted by: cindy in nc | May 16, 2008 12:05:11 PM
It is hard to tell if McCain is senile or if it is just republican rhetoric.
Posted by: The Unshrub | May 16, 2008 12:03:34 PM
Olbrman
should Florida and Michigan not count then?
cause Hillary should take resposibility of having more say on them not counting...than anyone...considering her team and her status as the front runner for so long actually gave her alone the opportunity to "fix" this... but she didn't.
She seems to not want to take reponsibility for that...and if that was the case that she said they wouldn't count...and she takes "responsibility" as you say they should...
then Michigan and Florida doesn't count because of her actions and her statements.
Try to spin some more she lost. If it had been real elections in those two states they would have gone the same way as every other state...close to a tie or him winning. The margins wshe won on her were just like every other state before they learned there was someone outside of the woman they knew as their first lady for the last 15 years.
that is why they are called beauty contests...they are not real elections...they are contests based on recognition... voters can't vote for candidates they don't know.
Posted by: dl | May 16, 2008 12:01:49 PM
You can tell Obama he doesn't have to worry about November" Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line and love conquers all so the presidency is in the bag for him." N--O--T!!!!!! Hehehe, are you kidding America is not going to elect another empty suit to the White House, we have already had 8 years of that non sense. America is going to elect a well filled out pant-suit!!!
President Hillary 08
Posted by: mona | May 16, 2008 11:56:03 AM
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