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What Are Clinton and Obama's Positions On Lifting the Consent Decree on the Teamsters?
May 05, 2008 11:14 AM
Comes in the Wall Street Journal today a story about Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, the Teamsters-endorsed candidate, "privately telling the union he supported ending the strict federal oversight imposed to root out corruption...It's an unusual stance for a presidential candidate. Policy makers have largely treated monitoring of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters as a legal matter left to the Justice Department since an independent review board was set up in 1992 to eliminate mob influence in the union."
"Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor confirmed the candidate's position in a statement to The Wall Street Journal, saying that Sen. Obama believes that the board 'has run its course,' because 'organized crime influence in the union has drastically declined.' Mr. Vietor said Sen. Obama took that position last year."
John Coli, vice president for the Teamsters central region, tells the Journal Obama was "'pretty definitive that the time had come to start the beginning of the end' of the three-member independent review board that investigates suspect activity in the union...Sen. Clinton was 'more wishy-washy' than Sen. Obama in discussions on the issue, said Mr. Coli."
In Clinton's Teamsters General Executive Board on March 27, 2007, Clinton said the following after being asked her opinion on the consent decree by Teamsters Western Region International Vice President Jim Santangelo.
"The world’s longest consent decree?" Clinton laughed. "You know, I am of the opinion that based on what I’ve seen over years of observation, you know, this union has really done a tremendous job in turning itself around. That’s my observation. And at some point the past has to be opened. You know, if you screw up in the future, that’ll be, that'll be a new day, right? That’s the way the system works. But you gotta’ – you can’t go around dragging the ball and chain of the past. And I think that’s true for anybody, any organization, any individual, you know, and so I would be very open to looking at that and to saying, 'Well, you know, what is it we’re trying to accomplish here?' And seeing what the answers were because at some point turn the page and go on."
Listen to that HERE.
Obama's the one who may have sounded a bit wishy-washy today when asked about this issue by Diane Sawyer on Good Morning America this a.m.
SAWYER: Want to turn to the news of the day. Front page of "The Wall Street Journal" today, it says before you won the endorsement of the Teamsters, you indicated to them you would support ending strict federal oversight of the union, which was imposed back in the early '90s to deal with corruption. Was that commitment made to them?
SEN. OBAMA: You know, I wouldn't make any blanket commitments. what I've said is that we should take a look at what's been happening over the Teamsters and at all unions to make sure that, in fact, you know, organized labor is able to represent its membership and engage in collective bargaining in accordance to what we've always believed.
SAWYER: But if they heard you to be saying that you did support, you did support lifting this strict federal oversight, are they wrong?
SEN. OBAMA: No, what I’ve said is that I would examine what is going on in terms of the federal oversight that's been taking place, but it's been in place for many years, the union has done a terrific job cleaning house, and the question is whether they're going to be able to get treated just like every other union, whether that time has come and that's something that I’ll absolutely examine when I’m president of the United States.
Watch the exchange HERE.
Compare that to what Obama told the Teamsters during his endorsement interview, when asked a similar question:
"Well look, this, under the president now with his leadership, I think the union has been transformed," Obama said. "I think that's the assessment, generally, and the problem is you have an administration that hasn't been particularly friendly to the union spirit and this union in particular. And I think that if you've got somebody in the White House that you know and you trust and you've got history with, then you are going to see a change in terms of how we evaluate these consent decrees. Now obviously, there is a legal aspect to it. It's got to run through the paces to make sure all the t's are crossed and the i's are dotted. So, I don't want to talk as if I snap my fingers and it suddenly happens, but as president with the authority to appoint an attorney general who actually understands the law..."
Listen to that HERE.
The Clinton campaign hit Obama hard on this issue today, implying that he says one thing in private and another in public. Team Clinton says their candidate made no promises about the consent decree, whereas Obama's position is difficult to ascertain -- his campaign and the Teamsters have said the consent decree should be lifted, Obama this morning said "we should take a look at" the issue.
- jpt
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Another last minute political pandering to make Obama look bad... When will Hillary Clinton and Howard Wolfson stop lying. All they do is lie, lie and lie again, so long as they get the vote. This is simply disgusting and a disgrace to democracy. It's pathetic...
Obama's answer is pretty clear..."Now obviously, there is a legal aspect to it. It's got to run through the paces to make sure all the t's are crossed and the i's are dotted. So, I don't want to talk as if I snap my fingers and it suddenly happens, but as president with the authority to appoint an attorney general who actually understands the law..."
Posted by: Kanobi11 | May 5, 2008 10:01:20 PM
Has a candidate ever come out of the Chicago/Illinois political machine that thought honesty was a virtue? I don't think so and Obama is in a long line of such men. He talks the talk and makes deals in back rooms to get elected. This is not the same ole Washington politics but the same ole Chicago politics--dirtier than Washington ever was. Obama, the great manipulator.
Posted by: Irish Gram | May 5, 2008 7:10:56 PM
Clinton also suggested the decree should be lifted when she met with the Teamsters on March 27. See Ben Smith's Blog on Politico. He has audio too! Puhleeze deliver us from this woman!
Posted by: Cindy | May 5, 2008 5:47:24 PM
And the Clintons don't say one thing in private and another thing in public? How about their original plans to smear Obama's mother? But gosh darn, she died of ovarian cancer in 1995 at the age of 52. "Shucks Hillary, we could have really got him with that one!"
(google "war on obama" and "robert parry" and read the 5-4-08 article)
Posted by: Cindy | May 5, 2008 5:24:45 PM
Senator Obama is the most brilliant figure ever to light up the political scene. After over 7 years of fascist Bush government, Americans have the opportunity of a life time to elect the most incredible leader of our time. If you want more Rovian politics, vote for Hillary or John. If you want integrity, intelligence and judgment, vote Obama. This is your wake up call America. We have two more days to end this campaign and nominate Obama!
Posted by: Katy | May 5, 2008 4:58:00 PM
Obama lies, look at how many times he blinks after she asks him that question. He's going nuts!!! He's a liar!! Anyone can tell.
Posted by: Tor | May 5, 2008 4:53:26 PM
I must agree with carnival. The whole Obama/white blue collar divide is code for racism. It amazes me how the media echo chamber pushes this narrative (along with Jeremiah Wright) as a wedge to keep low-information voters hostile to Obama's programme (which is more inclusive of working class issues that HRC's)
Posted by: BBaptiste | May 5, 2008 4:32:44 PM
I think his comments were entirely consistent. It is shady to imply that he said one thing on television and another to the teamsters. Obama seems reluctant to make promises to people and pander to them. That is an admirable quality. To be honest about what promises you make. He's straight talking when he say's he'll consider the issue, but won't 'snap his fingers' like magic. I don't understand how this can be covered as an inconsistency on the part of Obama.
Jake doesn't even seem to be implying that. He is suggesting that Obama may be wishy-washy. I'll take that point; It's hard to be unbending on every issue because you'll be lying to someone; making promises you can't keep. But that doesn't mean he was doing some shady dealings. That's a dishonest assertion.
Posted by: jfn | May 5, 2008 4:20:31 PM
I knew there must have been some dirty deals when Obama, a not well know senator, got so many unions backings in February. Now it just seems too late for voters to know this.
Posted by: LYNN | May 5, 2008 3:36:04 PM
I've noticed that Obama is frequentely saying things like "bunch of stuff" and "this, that and the other thing". I always thought it was because he didn't really understand issues well enough to discuss detail. That is true, but additionally it's because he doesn't want to be definitive about anything.
Posted by: cappamore | May 5, 2008 2:20:57 PM
It certainly not surprising that Senator Obama and corruption are in the same sentence. That is how he has been elected in the past. He will say or do anything to get elected. He is a SLEAZE.
Posted by: Gram Mary | May 5, 2008 2:02:46 PM
Teamsters spokesman John Coli? Too bad his name isn't Ed Coli, or Earnest Coli. Then he would be E.Coli
Posted by: Buford Gooch | May 5, 2008 1:40:33 PM
The national media was so high on the idea of Obama earlier on, and treated him with soft fuzzy gloves, affecting early wins.
If the b.s. artist actaully takes the nomination, I will be stunned and amazed.
Posted by: JL | May 5, 2008 1:39:11 PM
Martin
There's ALWAYS something wrong with this or any country. Maybe you didn't read the papers when you were in the Navy????
And blaming everything on racism seems a bit myopic. Doesn't it?
Posted by: A | May 5, 2008 1:22:28 PM
oh oh...America brace yourself...I feel a major speech from Obama about America's unions coming on?
Posted by: mona | May 5, 2008 1:02:48 PM
Just out of interest I read these blogs but you know, I find that they lean toward supporting Clinton. I haven't made my mind up yet but the more I read what is happening here I am leaning in one direcitons, Obama. Everytime he even opens his mouth the press is there sensationalizing it, and stretching the truth. I am a white, blus collar worker who is tired and sick of the Clintons. Been there, Done that...perhaps we do need change....and maybe all the knocking of Obama is because people are afraid of him...fear of the unknown, but then again...we thought Bush was so GREAT we elected him twice....
Posted by: carnival | May 5, 2008 1:02:30 PM
Is this why the Obama camp is so confident that he will get the nomination? The fix is in.
Posted by: calli | May 5, 2008 1:00:10 PM
Karen,
Try looking at the current Administration, if you want to talk about thugs, terrorist & government corruption. Oh by the way does the name Norman Hsu mean anything to you, he did to the Hillary Clinton campaign in early 2007 she received a total of $850,000 in donations. By the way Mr. Hsu is under federal investigation for allegedly violating election laws.
Posted by: Martin | May 5, 2008 12:59:10 PM
I'm sorry, but this is shady stuff. He is disappointing me more and more.
Posted by: Chanel | May 5, 2008 12:53:34 PM
How much does Obama Hate the U.S. that he wants to CHANGE it.
How Arrogant is Obama that he thinks he can CHANGE it.
Only now when he sees his Polls slipping that he Cloaks himself in the Flag, arming himself with Apple Pies ...... but then and all the Panderings and backroom deals he's made is all coming out for all to see.
Rev Wright was right about Obama being a POLITICIAN.... and thats all he is.
And Mr. Coli, the LOBBYIST for the Teamster knew this....
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | May 5, 2008 12:49:17 PM
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