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I would rather take our chances on another four years with McCain than guess what will happen with Obama! When life long dems are ready to vote republican people should pay attention!
All of you are gambling on these being idle threats. What a mistake. This country is equally divided between Hillary and Obama according to voters. The supers have to find a way to solve this situation and appease both sides or McCain will be president! The votes are so close that no one at this point should be arrogant or bully enough to claim victory because it will only fuel the fire. If the dem party is to win in the fall people need to put their heads together and find a solution. Of course Hillary will say to help Obama and vise versa, but that does not mean it will happen! People I have talked with are very serious on this issue. 27 people alone in one family will vote McCain that I am aware of. Wake up DNC!!

Im a republican and Im voting for Obama. To say that a democrat will vote for McCain, just because Hillary was unable to seal a victory is ridiculious. The democratic party as a whole has proven to me that they can change our economy and foreign politics. Although Clinton may have the experience, she is applying old rules to new changes. We need change, and just like JFK was also considered a young and inexperience candidate for the presidency, he made a strong influence. OBAMA 08 & 012...

There sure are a bunch of children here in these trolls for sure. You women get your hankies out because you will need them pretty soon when hillery tells you all to join with the Obama team on winning the White House. Are you voting for McCain when Hillery is out there helping Obama which she will be doing? Wake Up.

The Democratic establishment is putting Obama over the top...not the people. It is the elite of the party, and they (DNC) will be screwed in Nov. What total idiots. Super d's will put BO over on June 3, and they want her to give up on June 4. The super d's will not change their minds this far into it. Why don't they revote MI, since he was off the ballot. She will still beat him.

Oh my God...Obama blathers on and on and on in his speech tonight, which for the life of me I can't understand why he is speaking in Iowa. The votes from Oregon haven't even been counted yet. Don't care if he's expected to win there...he could have held off until tomorrow when it would be more relevant.
He can talk all about unity and coming together...but it ain't going to happen. Hillary supporters are not bluffing about voting McCain...I will be one of them.

Susan,

I have the same feeling, it makes me worry.
Hopefully Obama team will not do similar like in IN because this is very close primary.
The number keeps changing.
The local tv station said they are waiting for closing at 8 pm.
Just pray...

How does the democratic party make a mockery of democracy:

Comparison of Texas primary and caucas results

Texa Primary
Candidate Votes Vote % P.Deleg
Clinton 1,459,814 51% 65
Obama 1,358,785 47% 61
4 points win to Clinton

Texa Caucus
Candidate Votes Vote % P.Deleg
Obama 23,918 56% 38
Clinton 18,620 44% 29
12 points loss to Clinton

Comparison of Washington Caucus and Primary:

Washington Caucus
Candidate Votes Vote % P.Deleg
Obama 21,629 68% 59
Clinton 9,992 31% 31
37 points win of Obama

Washington Primary
Candidate Votes Vote % P.Deleg
Obama 339,166 51%
Clinton 303,151 46%
6 points win of Obama

Comparison of Alaska and Virginia
Alaska
Candidate Votes Vote % P.Deleg
Obama 6,674 75% 9
Clinton 2,194 25% 4
A win of
A win of 5 pledged delegates

West Virginia
Candidate Votes Vote % P.Deleg
Clinton 239,298 67% 20
Obama 91,747 26% 8
A win of 147551 votes
A win of 12 pledged delegates

America is just like the animal farm in George Orwell.
All voters are equal: just some voters are more equal than the others.

How many pledged delegates was Ted Kennedy down by in 1980 when he took it to the convention? And why Hillary should drop out?

Obama can declare himself the nominee, but that won't make it true. We won't have a nominee until the convention.

Bravo Yavo. Your posts today are excellent. It appears that Hillary lives
till at least August unless she chooses to bow out. Given Obama's gaffe-a-day pace time is probably on her side.

Florida baby,

You said: Obama worked tirelessly to obtain the goal of 2026.

He did not work so hard, every time he lose the Super Ds shower him with lots of endorsement.
That's why he is almost get to the goal now.

Omentum,

You said ,57 states including Hillary's states of denial.
Those states which Hillary won are real and big states. Obama will desperately need to win those States in the GE in order to beat McCain.
If you think he doesn't need those (Denial???)states, the people of those states will be happy to give their
votes to McCain.

Remember that winner take all gave us Bush, and when he did't get them all he took them anyway.

More evidence of the Democrats incompetence. They devise a silly system to prevent the stampeding of the party into nominating another McGovern and as soon as a similar stampede occurs they decide their system's no good. Such party geniuses as Pelosi, Cantwell, Jimmuh Cahtuh, Rangel seem to think the SD's should reflect the popular vote. So why have SDs?

When Obama takes back the White House, there will be huge change. College Students will never have to pay for student loans again and they can spend all their money on clothes and shoes like they do now and not worry about debt ever. Obama is giving us promises we can believe in. There will be plenty of sacrifices. Taking from the rich and giving to the poor. ANd legalizing cocaine so 16 year olds can get high and still run for president. And women will have to stand by their men. Behind them, actually. Some of the most innocent victims of all this will be the dignified AA voters who are getting a president they did not know they were voting for. Yeah that Obama has the Wright Stuff.

the obama supporters and their snide and sarcastic comments are starting to get to me... just too much of it lately. i guess most of them are in the early-20's crowd.

ugh

hoosier sue

you mean like how they have gone back in almost every state Obama has gotten more and more delegates because the initial counts were swayed incorrectly toward Hillary?

or that the MSM has not asked a single question about a single one of the lists of scandals with the Clintons in this whole primary?

is that what you mean.

the same scandals that the republicans were saving up to release in the general...you know the ones that everyone said were going to be her biggest challenge when she ran...yet..silence...not a peep...

and all America knows is there was something called whitewater and Monica lewinsky... oh and the republicans tried and couldn't find anything (which is false)

You are blinded by this whacked demagoguery.

If this had been any other candidate...they would have been forced out a long time ago.

can you imagine if Joe Biden...or Chris Dodd did this... event thoguh the math was insurmountable and they kept saying nasty things and encouraged their supporters to do the same... at the candidate lets say Hillary was the one with insurmountable numbers... saying she can't win working class men won't vote for her.

they woudl have been drubbed to France.

but you all don't see that from the little worlds you are living in.

Hoosier sue

they were created so funny stuff that would divide the country and bring it to a place like we are would not happen...

unfortunately that has not been read.

go read the directive for the hunt commision ...out of which the supers were created.

It isn't to rubberstamp the vote... it is to assure that it was not thrown by underhanded spin or tactics.

It is there to interpret that...yes as individuals but barring any threat of so called funny business... or spin or behind the scenes throwing of the campaigns...

they are to assure the democratic process and make the party leaders more accountable to that goal.

go look it up... seems I am the only one reading these materials.

although the Hunt Commision did not list in their creation a specific format for them to choose...the Hunt Commisions own directive signals and identifies what their purpose was that they were directed to do when they created these positions.

So yes it is to rubber stamp the voters choice as long as their was no oddity in the primary that would throw the truw democratic voice of the party.

dl, the party members are not the voters. I'm a voter, but I'll never be a member of the Democratic party. The SuperD's purpose is to get a Dem elected in the GE, thus their loyalty is only to the party. The pledged delegates reflect the voters - not the party.

To dl:

With regard to the "Super Delegates", let's just wait to see what happens in Denver in August. But, please do remember what Axelrod said, "I think they and all the superdelegates should vote according to what they think is best for the party and the country. And I think that we need the strongest possible candidate against John McCain…"

Even he understands.

I can't decide if some of these biards are populated mostly by Limbaugh losers or sore loser Hillary fans.In either event,it is extremely likely that Obama will win both the Democratic nomination & the presidential election.Then all you bitter females/repressed Republicans can moan and groan for 8 more years.

dl, if the SuperDs are only in place to rubber stamp the pledged delegate count, then they never would have been created in the first place. They are in place to put forth the candidate who has the best chance of winning the GE - if they fail to do so, then they're derelict in their duties.

"Sweetie" Bo wants to change America - he will give away all your stuff and all the jobs to his revolutionary friends - they have planned all along to overthrow the US Government. If you own any property, it will be divied up among the 3rd world countries. It's only fair. Have fun with your new country!

Yavo Lem

that's great and all that Axelrod said that but the Hunt Commision was given a declaration before they created the superdelegates and it was to make the party "more democratic" not less and it's leaders more "accountable" to the party members (yes the voters) themselves.

That is in papers from the Library of Congress to the dictionary of Politics to various notes from the years where the commision was formed.

The supers are to ehlp assure the vote and selection priocess was more democratic to the party not less.

Any claim about the majority of pledged delegates is nothing more than a veiled threat to put the black vote cow on the line if SDs dare to vote against him in the convention. This man is an artist when it comes to playing the race card softly.

Hoosier sue
"Kennedy, Kerry, Byrd, and Richardson went against their states' voters who gave Hillary the majority. If they don't have to follow "the will of the people" then why should Obamabots think any Super D has to?"

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The supers are responsible to follow the will of the people ...they are to make the party more democratic...

that does not mean their constituencies outside the democratic party as a whole. They are to help their parties democratic voice first ... it is not about reflecting the state or constituency first... they were not appointed a superdelegate vote for anything besides making the PARTY more democratic...and making sure that the will and spirit of the people of the party ...the national vote and delegates...was upheld...and no twisting happened in the run up to throw that off...like for example an election counting where the states never met the candidate (and statistically proven that every state had a major switch to another candidate where they actually met that candidate) or a candidates name wasn't on the ballot.

supers are there to make sure funny business like that doesn't happen.

Well, for the last eight years we've seen our military, our economy, and our world esteem ruined by the failed Bush policies.

What a sad end of the Bush Regime to see this argueing within the Democratic Party.

It's so true that this generation is all about "ME" and not about our country and what needs to be done to restore it. Shame on all of you.

Yavo Lem - Since when does success or wins during the primary season automatically translate to the same success/wins in the general election? THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS! Thank God the superdelegates are smart enough to realize that.

And secondly, the Democratic nomination process is not determined on electoral votes for the exact same reason I just mentioned. Stop trying to bend the rules to compensate for your LOSING candidate. It's immature. It's unfair and I dare to say it's UNAMERICAN!

"will of the people" can also mean who wins the popular vote. What more will is that??

Kennedy, Kerry, Byrd, and Richardson went against their states' voters who gave Hillary the majority. If they don't have to follow "the will of the people" then why should Obamabots think any Super D has to?

Sucking up guys. Clinton is defeated.
Demacrate will take another lesson.

Mangog

who would like people to listen to his exclamation point statement that Obama will lose by a landslide...

considering the head to head match ups betweenObama and McCain have to inherently include the highest possible numbers from the height of the primaries for defections (a number that every reasonable person has said is beyond ridiculousness to think it would be a third of that)

even with those heat of the moment defections tallied into those head to heads... Obama almost always ties or wins.

and that is with McCain not getting any scrutiny...

between that and just the numbers voting dem instead of republican in the primaries...

There is a very good statistical chance ...the odds are far better ...that not only will the dem candidate win...

it is actually most likely a blow out.

but I know that doesn't soothe any of the angry Hillary supporters' anger so I am sure those numbers will also be ignored in favor of their own creative math.

al: According to Obama though, he needs to study the 57 states that he thinks we live in.

Also, please someone inform Obama that they do not speak Arabic in Afghanistan.

Heh! Question to Obama! Does Canada have a president or a prime minister?

Obama....I DON"T KNOW!!!!! HELLLLLLO!!!!

The Democratic Party is being taken over by its left wing.

Although I've been a life-long Democrat, there is no way on God's green earth that I'm voting for Obama.

Obama is too far left, and he has too many red flags surrounding him.

I can only hope that the super delegates will rescue the Democratic Party from Far Left Obama and his ultra-liberal supporters.

If not, My family and I wil be voting for John McCain in November.

It is a shame

The Demacrate SO FAR LEFT (and dump media)
has only promoted "The Emperor''s New Clothes"

One see the clothes.
One see the color.
One see the body.

What's disturbing about Obama on Hansford is that he's in the pocket of Exelon which wants to build 16 nuclear power plants across the USA. Exelon is one of the reasons Obama voted for Cheney's Oil Bill.

This man is clueless, thus dangerous.

After tonight Barack will be within 50 delegates of having the 2025 majority required for nomination. There are eleven days until the May 31 DNC Committee meeting. My bet is that Barack gets 50 additional superdelegates by May 31st and this is all over.

and for those of you saying that the supers were put to send the most electably candidate forward...that is absolutely not true...

it was (and I quote the purpose of the commision that created them) to make the party more democratic and more responsible to the party members themselves.

The supers are there to ensure the will of the party members...and make the selection process more democratic not less.

It is to make sure no "funny business" goes on with the delegate math.

That was the purpose of the supers...besides what that professional spinner Ferraro says...it is in the recorded declaration of purpose for the Hunt Commission which created their purpose.

They can act on their own but it is to ensure the spirit of deomcratic process and the will of the party in the face of manipulation with things like Michigan for example where a candidate's name was not on the ballot.

ATTENTION: LOIS, CALIFORNIA
IF YOU CAN RECALL CORRECTLY THE SNAKES TOOK THE VOTE BECAUSE 1) KERRY CONCEDED, 2) THE REPUBS (BUSH PARTY) MANIPULATED THE SYSTEM AND THE VOTES, AND 3) REGISTERED VOTERS WHERE TURNED AWAY AFTER WAITING IN LINE FOR SEVERAL HOURS. SO TOO BAD FOR MCCAIN THAT THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA ARE AWAKE TO THAT TYPE OF UNDERHANDED SCHEME. GO OBAMA/CLINTON! TO VOTE FOR THE PEOPLE VOTE DEMOCRAT

obama is not electable

he is stepping in it more every day

dems are fools

Apparently while stumping in oregon bo was asked about the hanford nuclear waste site and he admitted he HAD NOT CLUE ABOUT IT.

tried to spin it that he is new kind of pol who admits he is an ignorant fool.

HANFORD IS ONE OF THE OLDEST AND MOST FAMOUS NUCLEAR WASTE SITES IN THE WORLD.

Maybe if bo spent more time studying this country he wants to lead and less time with rev wright he would be viable.

mr. environment? no wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy

The super delegates must consider the integrity of voters. They should vote for the real winner that is the one with the most popular votes including those in Michigan and Florida. There is no rule against this. If Howard Dean does not want to count, he cannot prohibit the super delegates to do so. Each of them should restore the integrity, fairness to voters and not to the politicians.
I hope Obama would refrain from harming more of his image by self proclaiming the nominee. He should not bring upon himself the shame as did Idi Amin Dada who had proclaimed himself Emperor of Uganda.

If you remember the debate (last but one?) Obama was so hesitated to divorce someone (not Uncle Wright).

Weather or not he love America will take time to prove. Maybe until he divorce all like Uncle Wright.

Anti-Iraq-War is the only one credit to Obama, but not sure whom he stands for after all Uncle Wright-like connections.

we have reached just angry blather on here...which has no basis in reality.

Most Clinton supporters aren't even close to the childish comments on here.

Most clinton supporters are adults...they don't buy into terrorist conspiracy crap...or voting out of spite...or that Clinton lost by any issue more than she had the wrong message and thanks to Bill and Mark Penn she was swift boated by the two men standing at the top of her campaign.

They ran a stupid campaign to start with and dropped the ball.

Racism, sexism, ageism played a part in this campaign probably but considering they cancel each other out for the most part...it was about a campaign that was being run by her husband and Mark Penn...

maybe next time she'll actually divorce the guy.

90% of Clinton supporters have fought too long for the things they care about to throw it away on a spiteful vote.

and most are not in 5th grade... so they don't act like it...and cut off their nose to spite their face...or should we say their children's faces.

bhrandon

Regarding your statement - Sen. Barack Obama’s 16-point lead over Clinton in the latest Gallup daily tracking poll of Democrats---the Gallup poll is old and The Gallup poll was off some 20 points in February. Believe the poll if you want or wait and see how Obama does tonight. He will lose Kentucky and he may win Oregon but not by much only a few points ---everyone is catching on to him now.

Give them two years each...and all is solved...everybody happy...then we elect the one that did better for the other 4 yrs...

Anne,
If you don't know the difference between W. Virginia and Iowa, you've apparently never been to either.

MCCAIN SUPPORTERS, MCCAIN WILL WIN AND AT THAT POINT YOU ALL WILL AWAKEN FROM THE COMA THAT YOU'VE BEEN SUBJECTED TO; TO FIND THAT A DEMOCRAT HAS TAKEN OVER AND SET IN WITH A CHANGE FOR A BETTER AMERICA!!

Sen. Barack Obama’s 16-point lead over Clinton in the latest Gallup daily tracking poll of Democrats and Democratic-leaning voters comes from even higher support among groups that have been supporting him throughout the primary race, and from newfound support among several groups that have backed Clinton.

Obama leads or ties Clinton among women, Easterners, whites, adults with no college education, and Hispanics, with the New York senator’s support now below 50 percent in each group, according to Gallup. Both are backed by 47 percent of white voters surveyed, and Obama is essentially tied with Clinton – 47 percent to 46 percent – among Democrats whose education level is a high school diploma or less.

Clinton’s advantage among women overall seems to have evaporated, with Obama now holding a lead within the survey’s three point margin of error, 49 percent to 46 percent. Hispanics favor Obama over Clinton by 7 percentage points, 51 percent to 44 percent. And Obama now leads among voters in Eastern states by 9 percentage points over Clinton – 52 percent to 43 percent.

Only problem is with MI - where BO was not on ballot - it was his choice...but regardless...the people that wanted to vote for BO should also be counted...how, I have no clue.

Obama won last February in IOWA almost all white state ---which means whites are not racists….then what happened in West Virginia? Why did Obama LOSE almost by 70% a clear landslide against him……and now the words racists applies! Back in February no one knew about Barack Obama and doubts about his patriotism. “Iowans never heard of Reverend Wright; they didn’t know about Obama’s “friendly relations” with Bill Ayers; they weren’t aware that Michelle Obama had never been “proud of her country”; they hadn’t noticed the missing flag pin; and most damning of all they never heard the audiotape of Obama speaking to liberal fat cats in San Francisco in tones of obvious condescension describing rural lower income whites in a manner that made them seem ignorant, pathetic, and of course “bitter”. They didn’t hear Obama about visiting America’s 57 states, or here him speak of “change” that Americans must stop eating so much, heating and cooling their homes to 72 degrees or driving SUV’s around (like most Americans have SUV’s) as the other nations of the World do not like us to be so successful. We must lower our expectations---and give time to the rest of the world to catch up. Obama is a fraud and man that most certainly will be indicted shortly for his part in the extortion hearings that are going on with Rezko. The DNC is blind and because of this they will lose the election in November ----they have lost my vote!

Hillary Clinton supporters need to stop whining! Jeez louize! The states that Hilllary won will not matter to democrats in the general election because they ALWAYS vote republican. If you think the same coveted ‘white hard-working American men’ Hillary praises 24/7 are going to vote for a woman in November you are delusional. Ohio, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Texas, Florida – these are REPUBLICAN states and John McCain will win them in the fall.

I have already changed from democrat to independent – because I do not trust the Clintons. They are not going to be happy until Hillary Clinton becomes either the nominee or VP. Either way I will happily vote for John McCain. John McCain will seat his picks for Supreme Court Justices and they will overturn Roe v. Wade and he will continue the war and economy policies of bush all you female backers of Hillary will be satisfied…yes? Because he is after all a coveted white man (not broke) but he will be soooo much better than the ‘inexperienced’ black man?

So people stop your whining and complaining…if there is a will the Clintons will find a way to totally destroy the democratic party with their selfish, vain, glory seeking ways. I’m sure Hillary Clinton will take her BS straight to the convention and try to ruin all chances of Barack winning or running without her.

I think that all VOTES (not delegates) should be counted from FL and MI - but i think that any delegate supporting the moving of these dates should lose their status as delegate, and others should replace them. Its not fair for people not to count...but it certainly would be right to punish those DEMs that thought they were being clever by moving the date....the people should also hold those individuals accountable for their irrisponsible actions.

Haha, finally "God Dxxx America" is close to winning the presidency.

I like Obama's explaination for patriotism. He said,"if I don't love this country, I wouldn't run for president."

I wonder how the floridians, and michiginians (is that right?) will take to Obama being the front runner. If I was in their shoes, and my party didn't want to count my vote, or my party's candidate didn't want to count my vote, I'd go to another party that would. Would you stay with a party that didn't count your vote? I think McCain will be the pres because of this. Those are two states with voters that are being disenfranchised by their own parties. This is one strange democracy. Lemmings! We are the lemmings!

With Hillary drubbing Obama in state after state that is pivotal in a Dem general election win, it's hard for me to see how the superdelegates do what the pledged delegates have not -- namely put him over the top. Superdelegates are for now only counted on paper and I'm not sure how they will distinguish between "ratifying" a nominee and "choosing" one.

There is a great deal of vocal female anger expressed here. Understandable in an earlier context, not in the present one.

Never have there been more intelligent, able and admirable women in powerful positions in this society and the rest of the western world. Women lead lots of companies, countries, NGOs. More will in the future.

Hillary has a level of competence only equaled by her hubris.

What is with the "This race is far from over" nonsense?

Surely, after 15 months of campaigning and only a few days from the end of the primary season, "NEARLY OVER" definitely applies here.

Nearly over? Yes indeed. And thank goodness for that.

You can thank Senator Clinton for a number of things.

1) She took what should be a wonderful moment for women - a woman running for president, and turned it into another example of how women are oppressed (see her comments about that one).

2) She is dividing the Democratic party by simply denying the inevitable - after all as she put it, who would want the "next" president to have quit (she's not thinking about anything but her next chance folks).

3) Her tactics serve to ensure McCain is elected - after all how can self respecting blue collar workers vote for Obmama now - yet Clinton has too much to gain to win the nomination? I guess it will be McCain.

Nice goin ma'am. In it to win it - takes on a whole new meaning.

Read the blogs, the democrats are so divided that they can't possibly win in November. You have two candidates everyone loves to hate. That's why I'm going to vote for McCain. All the democrats will do is what they've done for the past two years.. Whine, belly ache, complain, tell everyone how bad everyone who disagrees with their policies are, and do nothing to change it. A divided party cannot effect change. It takes party unity. The Dem's were going to get us out of the war if we elected them to congress. Well, are we still at war. Hillary nor Barack will do it either. They don't have the will of the people. Do the math. About 50% of the American people are Republicans. The other 50% Democrat. But the democrats are so divided that they can't muster 25% in favor of either candidate. Only McCain can get anything done with those mathematical odds. I'll take four years of John McCain over 4 more years of strictly divisive politics.

All this makes me glad to be a Ron Paul supporter.

When Obama or McCain becomes president and the dollar continues sliding and our debt continues accumulating, you all will still be arguing amongst yourselves about how things would be so much better if people had listened to you. Economically Hillary might be a better choice than Obama, and McCain a better choice than Hillary, but in the end none of them have any solid plans for fixing our fiscal problems. As the government overspends and over prints money (look at our money supply vs. gdp growth) the dollar will continue to decline and the US will lose its wealth. Also I should point out that each of the 3 candidates wants to take away your rights which were supposed to be garunteed in the Bill Of Rights. The 2nd, the right to a fair trial and privacy, and the 10th.

Who cares what Obama can offer. I'm not voting for him regardless because of all the unfairness occurred during the campaigns. He claims he "earned" this nomination, well he actually "cheated" along the way with the overwhelming helps from the media and some dem party leaders. Therefore I will never vote for him, not even in my next life. He makes me so sick because of all these yet he appears to arrogant and cocky - disgusting!!!!

Will not make any difference to this sweetie. Not sure how I will vote be it will not be for Obama.

Marilyn,
That was the best post I've seen all week... Obama 2008!!!

OK, people. Let's pull on our big boy and big girl pants. Weathervane McCain can only win if we let him. Give me Hillary or give me Barack. I will vote and work for whichever gets the nomination (although I voted for Obama in the Oregon primary, and am certainly no Republican in Democrat's clothing). Either Clinton or Obama would be 1,000,000 times better than McCain. 'Nuff said.

Still you banter

still you whine..

another 10 kids just died,
another 2 species just went extinct.

good job guys.. good job.

to the future!

The choice is simple, War or no war. Fiscal responsibility or not.
Open and accessible government or secret deals.
Diplomacy first or Immediate escalation.
These are the choices in the Fall. For all her talk, HRC seeks to overturn the will of the majority that have already voted for Obama, just because she doesn't like the result. This is a Bushism. "You are right as long as you agree with me." Enough. If you vote for Mccain or don't do everythign you can to make sure he does not win the Presidency, then you lose yoru place to complain.
BTW georgia, lemmings don't march off the cliff. That myth was perpetuated by a naturalist that forced them over the edge, he forced the reality to match what he wanted to be true, no matter what the cost. This is how Clinton and Bush work.

Countallthevotes - I really hope you will enjoy seeing your kid being drafted into a neverending war that Mccane wants to support...very smart.

Pledged delegates are not automatic candidate votes because their will is not expressed until August. I would think that most super-delegates would prefer to follow the delegate will as a whole when it reaches 2026, or whatever number ends up being deemed the finish line. But by stricter and original definition, the supers are supposed to exercise their judgement independently. So I simply don't get the assertion that they would follow en masse a majority pledged delegate count.

Marilyn,

What I would do for my children if Obama is the nominee, is vote for McCain. Obama scares me. His associations look like a political/terrorist freak show. His platforms are not binding or inclusive of the many issues he will face. There are inherent contradictions between his prior statements and positions over the years and his current press releases that are irreconcilable.

Obama scares me. I am well read and have researched him probably as much as many reporters. The man is not to be trusted.

Hillary and her DLC cronies need to be put out to pasture. We need real Democrats in power.

Obama/Webb '08

It is my understanding that the SDs were created for the sole purpose of overturning the "will of the people" so that we do not end up with another McGovern-style drubbing. Clearly the SDs are not up to the job. For the next primary maybe we should rethink this whole thing. Here is what we should do:

1. Caucuses should not count at all. They are anti-democratic and prone to manipulation. Hillary won the popular vote in Texas, but lost the caucuses -- enough said. State parties need to pony up the cash and hold primaries.

2. All the states should be counted. It is insane not to count Michigan and Florida.

3. No more proportional representation. Primary delegates should be allocated the same as the electoral college. If a state is winner-take-all in the electoral college it should be so in the primary.

4. Get rid of the super delegates. The only thing they seem to be good for is demanding favors from candidates in exchange for votes.

SadState - i have been to Hillary's site, and have read through her policies (which are not very user friendly to read, but that's beside the point). You mean her NAFTA policy that was acrefully crafted after it started to be a talking point? Hmmmm...seems that she was for it until she realized it wouldnt win her votes in OH and PA...how about the war on Iraq - her policy was to not engage, right? Or was that take from BO's playbook, since he was the original voice against the war? A lot of their policies are the same...sure...but who copied who on major issues is quite obvious.

I wonder how many people remember the last election. There was a record number of new registered, young voters. Guess what happened, the Democrats lost anyway. What happened to those voters? I hate to remind you, but most young 18 year olds may register, but they will not show up at the polls. Hillary has a solid base not a moving part of a base. This is going to be a "too bad" for Obama. You can talk about me all you want but I stand by what I said. And you won't be able to change the outcome of the upcoming election. He is a weak candidate. He's weaker than Kerry was four years ago.

Veronica,

I agree with. There is absolutely no reason to have superdelegates if they are not supposed to vote independently. The DNC rules as to primary process were fatally flawed. The Democratic primary in no way reflects or projects Electoral votes.