While You Were Sleeping

Bill to Hill:

Put on your old gray bonnet
With the blue ribbon on it
While I hitch ol' Ickes to the shay..

Thro' the fields of clover
We'll ride up to Dover
It's Obama's coronation day.

@kate:

Clinton 17,410,209
Obama 17,234,194

Try again after Puerto Rico votes.

The math is not in your favor.

Jake Tapper Please as your mission for today would you lock down both Bill and Hillary Clinton on 3 things ?

They keep saying they are tring to stop you from having your vote so.

1. Who is it that its telling states there votes dont count ?

2. Who is trying to hide the "truth that hillary is really winning"(LOL)

3. Do they understand that to win the GE you first have to win in the nomination contest ?

BMR, Pittsburgh PA,

Right on ! The Prosecutor, Assistant U.S. Attorney Reid J. Schar has already said:

"There is no evidence or accusation of any wrongdoing on the part of Obama"

Martin:

Please, please, PLEASE, find something other than Rezko.

That trial is OVER. It's been in the jury's hands for almost two weeks now.

As for Obama? Nothing. Zip. Zilch. Of course, if you'd been listening to the prosecution, you'd have realized that, as Obama was never the target of their investigation, was never mentioned by the prosecution, and was never even identified as a possible witness.

Sorry. You'll have to do better. Try facts next time.

@len:

You say, "Hillary is winning in the popular vote and in the electoral math."

This is true if - and ONLY if - you throw out caucus states, and count FL/MI exactly as voted (meaning zero votes for Obama in MI). Oh, and how do you propose counting votes from an ILLEGAL primary? MI's January primary was ruled unconstitutional.

As for the electoral math - you're trying to use projections of November results to make this claim. It has NOTHING to do with the results of the primary. Whine about the delegate apportionment all you like - but Bill Clinton won two nominations under the very same system. Hillary Clinton's horrendous lack of preparation and organization is entirely her own fault.

Quit whining about "alledged" (that's "a-l-l-e-g-e-d", by the way) delegate counts. Your candidate trails in pledged delegates, superdelegates, contests won, and every popular-vote scenario except the one that disenfranchises caucus states that followed DNC rules and fully recognizes two states that violated DNC rules. Chew on THAT.

len,
PR dont get to vote in the GE thats a fact!

"True. No one has claimed otherwise. You claim Obama is winning the popular vote.That's false. Hillary is winning in the popular vote and in the electoral math."

Sorry your wrong:

Popular Vote Total

16,685,941 49.1% 16,227,514 47.7% Obama +458,427 +1.4%

Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA* 17,020,025 49.1% 16,451,376 47.5% Obama +568,649 +1.6%

Popular Vote (w/FL) 17,262,155 48.3% 17,098,500 47.8% Obama +163,655 +0.5%

Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA* 17,596,239 48.3% 17,322,362 47.6% Obama +273,877 +0.7%

Contest so far :

Obama leads Clinton 33 primaries to 18

Obama has 1974 with 314.5 super Ds

Hillary has 1782 with 282.5 super Ds

Without super delegates:

Obama has 1660 delegates

Clinton has 1460 delegates.

"Puerto Rico doesn't count in the electoral but in the popular vote for this nomination, they do indeed count."

Thats what I said:

Beacuse PR has 55 Delegates...and the popular vote there could make Hillary, really be the leader in the popular vote even though that dosent mean a thing! Because as you said they cant vote in the GE.

Electoral math:

The electoral math does not mean anything if dont win the nomination contest and Obama only need 48 more delegates to do that.. However as I wrote earlier One poll out of Seven doesnt make a claim true.. sure its not a straight up lie but it really isnt the truth either:

REAL POLITICS POLL OF ALL POLLS May 25 08:

National Obama +2.8 Clinton +1.5

Pennsylvania Obama +5.8 Clinton +11.7

Ohio Obama +1.3 Clinton +8.3

Wisconsin Obama +1.6 McCain +3.4

Virginia McCain +1.3 McCain +10.4

Florida McCain +8.3 Clinton +3.0

California Obama +11.5 Clinton +11.3

While both Hillay and Obama beat john McBush Obama is winning by more !!!

"Quit distorting facts. You're running scared because despite the alledged delegate count, by any count that matters in November, he is losing."

Ive just provided you with the information that proves otherwise so maybe you need to quit being so rude and do some actual research and not accuse people of running scared or distorting facts when in fact you are the person in the wrong. Just because Bill Clinton says something is true doesnt make it so ! You should already know that!

"You are giving the White House back to the Republicans by forcing an unelectable candidate down the throats of the party."

The only person trying to force anyone down anyones throats is you the people have spoken 33-18 the goal was clear:

"It doesnt matter how many states you have won, we both need to get to need 2025 to win the nomination."-Hillary Clinton 2-9-08

And Obama will reach that goal by or on June 3rd. Obama is 100% electable and will be the 44th President of the United States of America.

@kate:

"PR dont get to vote in the GE thats a fact!"

True. No one has claimed otherwise. You claim Obama is winning the popular vote. That's false. Hillary is winning in the popular vote and in the electoral math. Puerto Rico doesn't count in the electoral but in the popular vote for this nomination, they do indeed count.

Quit distorting facts. You're running scared because despite the alledged delegate count, by any count that matters in November, he is losing. You are giving the White House back to the Republicans by forcing an unelectable candidate down the throats of the party.

Senator Obama will go down this week. Tony Rezko is talking.

Average Joe,
You are right. Let the people vote. And since this nominee race has been so controversed, let's take it to the convention and examine carefully how many republicans crossed the line to vote for BO in the caucuses, and how many for Hillary in the primaries.
I believe there are more voting for BO than for Hillary. Then the superdelages can make up their mind.

josgirl,

Its boring all your doing is looking for someone to blame for Clintons lose when the truth is she lost because she had dumb people working for her and didnt understand what America was looking for.. She was beat fairly she put up a tough fight but it will be done on june 3rd!

Have a good night !

If you read my earlier posts, the point was Republicans in early states were voting for Obama, Texas, Wisconsin included.

Average Joe,

Posting the same thing again and again is boring obama will be the niminee have a good night !

Convention 101 (for the obama falk who've had to much media bosk):

Pledged delegates are not bound to vote for the candidate they are pledged to at the Convention or on the first ballot.

A pledged delegate goes to the Convention with a signed pledge of support for a particular presidential candidate. At the Convention, while it is assumed that delegates will cast their votes for the candidate they are publicly pledged to,

it is not required.

Under the Delegate Selection Rules, a delegate is asked to “in good conscience reflect the sentiments of those who elected them.” This provision is designed
in part to make the Convention a
deliberative body.
--
let people VOTE,
let delegates VOTE,
let democracy run its course,

Let's go to the Convention and
Let the best win!!

Average Joe

Move the goal post again and again!

regardless;
He is 48 delegates shy of the nomination!

In February 2008, Limbaugh announced "Operation Chaos", a political call to action with the initial plan to have voters of the Republican Party temporarily cross over to vote in the Democratic primary and vote for Hillary Clinton, who at the time was in the midst of losing 11 straight primary contests to Barack Obama.

Feb 9 Wisconsin
March 4th Texas

Convention 101 (for the obama falk who've had to much media bosk):

Pledged delegates are not bound to vote for the candidate they are pledged to at the Convention or on the first ballot.

A pledged delegate goes to the Convention with a signed pledge of support for a particular presidential candidate. At the Convention, while it is assumed that delegates will cast their votes for the candidate they are publicly pledged to,

it is not required.

Under the Delegate Selection Rules, a delegate is asked to “in good conscience reflect the sentiments of those who elected them.” This provision is designed
in part to make the Convention a
deliberative body.
--
let people VOTE,
let delegates VOTE,
let democracy run its course,

Let's go to the Convention and
Let the best win!!

Kate, Wisconsin, Texas, etc. were
BEFORE Limbaugh called for "Operation Chaos."
and
Obama hasn't won the nomination, no matter how many times you say it.

Average Joe,

No one is trying to stop everyone from voting! Why do you keep saying that ?

After everyone has voted Obama will be the winner on June 4!

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here you go again. i was going to think you got some sort of problem but i can see now what your problem is...you and your oabama folk don't like it when people VOTE, do you.

you and your obama fakes wold like to end it when you want to end it. i understand that.
but you've got a BIG problem.
it doesn't end until ALL VOTES (including the DELEGATES VOTES) are in and counted!

voting doesn't stop on June 4th - you wish it did.. but it does't :))

let people VOTE,
let delegates VOTE,
let democracy run its course,

Let's go to the Convention and
Let the best win!!