While You Were Sleeping

Average Joe,

No one is trying to stop everyone from voting! Why do you keep saying that ?

After everyone has voted Obama will be the winner on June 4!

you guys keep trying to Blame Obama when the people have voted and he has won 33-18 contests

If the polls are right it wil be 35-19

Average Joe,

THE WEAKEST CANDIDATE ?

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all riht then, let us find out.
let people VOTE,
let delegates VOTE,
let democracy run its course,

Let's go to the Convention and
Let the best win!!

josgirl,

You still looking for reasons to claim Obama didnt win ?

The Obamacans actualy intend on voting for him in the GE. Vist Obama's web site they are all there you can chat with them if you want and find out who they are!

Hillary had republican help too,
Look up Operation Chaos !!! Rush Linbar which the DNC gave Hillary a 2% Boost in Texas and Indiana and others!

She lost fair and square !

Even though polls show that Clinton would be a weaker candidate against McCain than would Obama, experts say Republicans, who have long expressed a visceral distaste for Bill and Hillary Clinton, want to prevent her from being on the ballot in November.

"The argument I've seen is, 'Let's get rid of Clinton once and for all,' " said Ralph Bordie, who conducts the IVR Poll in Texas.

Bordie's latest statewide poll released last week found that 15 percent of Texas Republicans who said they will support the GOP nominee in November plan nonetheless on voting for Obama next week.

In the Wisconsin primary, almost nine per cent of Obama's vote came from Republicans, according to exit polls. Other states that permitted Republicans to vote in the Democratic primary include Virginia, where almost seven per cent of Obama's support came from Republicans - and the Democrats dream of carrying Republican Virginia in the fall. In Missouri, almost six per cent of Obama's support came from Republicans. Missouri is a key swing state that has voted for the winner in every presidential election since 1904 except one.

Average Joe,

THE WEAKEST CANDIDATE ?

I thought you were for Hillary Clinton ?

One poll does not make that claim true!
6 out of the 7 most recent polls show Obama beating McBush by more !

Real Clear Politics !

Average Joe,

No one is affraid of anything its time to move on, its time for the party to unite after June third and we will.

We cant give any ground to the McBush camp if we truly want change in our government! If we want a government that has answers to our problems not blame and more blame.

DELEGATES SHOULD NOT PICK THE WEAKEST CANDIDATE _ THIS IS ABOUT WINNING THE GE!

and you know what, they will not pick obama!
and you know what:
you kids know it - that is exactly why you are trying to push and bully and post all this crap all over the place!
you know what the true is:
obama loses at the Convention!
because most democrats will wake up and smell the coffee and see who the stronger candidate is!

Convention 101:
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All delegates – both pledged and unpledged – formally cast their votes at the Convention.

The votes of unpledged delegates cast at the Convention do count towards a candidate securing the nomination. In past nominating cycles, individual unpledged delegates have endorsed a specific presidential candidate. Regardless of such endorsement, unpledged delegates are able to cast their vote for any presidential candidate at the Convention.

They wont overturn the the winner of the process Barack Obama with the person who has so clear lost hillary Clinton whose words I just wrote to you will see to that!

Convention 101
even more..

Pledged delegates are not bound to vote for the candidate they are pledged to at the Convention or on the first ballot. A pledged delegate goes to the Convention with a signed pledge of support for a particular presidential candidate. At the Convention, while it is assumed that delegates will cast their votes for the candidate they are publicly pledged to, it is not required. Under the Delegate Selection Rules, a delegate is asked to “in good conscience reflect the sentiments of those who elected them.” This provision is designed in part to make the Convention a deliberative body.

hombre,

Once Hillary has paid off her debts we will be united you may win over a few but this election is to important.. the majority off us will unite and set this country back on the right path..

Convention 101:
more

All delegates – both pledged and unpledged – formally cast their votes at the Convention.

The votes of unpledged delegates cast at the Convention do count towards a candidate securing the nomination. In past nominating cycles, individual unpledged delegates have endorsed a specific presidential candidate. Regardless of such endorsement, unpledged delegates are able to cast their vote for any presidential candidate at the Convention.

Average Joe,
Hillary said it herself;

"I intend to campaign hard through February. As you know, it's the DELEGATES who determine our nominee. I believe I will have the majority of pledged delegates by the end of the races in February"

-Hillary Clinton Dec '07

Obama has the pleadge delegate lead! by some 200.

"It doesnt matter how many states you have won, we both need to get to need 2025 to win the nomination."

Hillary Clinton 2-9-08

So you dont agree with Hillary Clinton ?

because we are democrats we can actually discuss these things.. as we should.. got a problem with that?

Golly, you democrats united against
Bush and the pubs sound eerily fractured
and tentative about which of your
nominees will win out in your racial
and gender polarized universe, will
limp into November to be trounced by
a simple man of courage and character. A half a BILLION campaign dollars has assured you of exactly.......what? Bragging rites at the November funeral?

Average Joe,

No one is debating that joe but once Obama gets the 2,025 delegates needed he will be the nominee!

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obama has 1661 pledged delegates. how does he get to 2,025 (no Fl nor MI?)or to 2,210 (with Fl and MI) or to 2,118 (half of Fl and MI).

how does he get to that number?
superdelegates do NOT vote and do NOT pledge until the convention!!!

and what case will they have at the convention - that obama is a pretty boy who can talk? :))

len,

PR dont get to vote in the GE thats a fact!

I think they should become a state BUT they are NOT and they DONT vote in the GE!

Simply the facts!!!

I dont get what your huffing up about ?

"Beacuse PR has 55 Delegates...and the popular vote there could make Hillary really be the leader in the popular vote even though that dosent mean a thing! Because as you said they cant vote in the GE.."

No Kate. Dead wrong. They are Americans. What they vote for counts very much. Just keep saying Puerto Rico doesn't matter and then go there. You'll have a very different perspective. Puerto Rico matters a lot. They are very much part of the popular vote. They dig that too.

As to the popular vote: which part of democratic republic don't you get? The part where the people vote or the reason that the people vote rather than being ruled absolutely by elites they vote for?

Freedom and choice. Getcha some.

Average Joe,

No one is debating that joe but once Obama gets the 2,025 delegates needed he will be the nominee!

I intend to campaign hard through February. As you know, it's the DELEGATES who determine our nominee. I believe I will have the majority of pledged delegates by the end of the races in February"

-Hillary Clinton Dec '07

She was wrong... Obama has the majority of pledged delegates and states won and everything else Average Joe...

She put up a strong fight but the marority of the people have decided on Obama

Convention 101:

How Delegates Vote
All delegates – both pledged and unpledged – formally cast their votes at the Convention.

Voting occurs at the Convention in a number of different ways. The Convention Chair may call for a simple voice vote: “All in favor say ‘Aye.’ All opposed say ‘No.’” Votes may also be conducted by a roll call vote of the states, either by telephone or other electronic means. After each official roll call vote, each delegate’s vote is recorded on tally sheets that are then submitted by each state delegation to the Convention Secretary. No secret ballots are permitted at any stage of the Convention’s proceedings. No vote may be cast by proxy. An alternate may only replace and cast a vote on behalf of a pledged delegate.
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not one single vote has been cast by ANY delegate yet!

educate yourself you obama kids..
demconvention dot com