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The reason women are voting for John McCain is because we feel that the party, who always had us in their hip pocket, showed very little respect to Hillary Clinton during this campaign. They need to realize that when they allow women to be treated so disrespectfully that they will lose our vote to the Republican party. How backed into a corner must we feel that we have no choice but to endorse the opposing party's candidate? Sexist men and young voters had their voices heard and nominated Obama. We deserve to have our voices heard and endorse who we want as form of protest. Obama had NO WOMEN in the upper crust of his campaign until today. He appointed a baby boomer to try and lure women back to the Democratic camp. Until today, he had none. McCain had a women high up in the campaign, Karly Firiona, I'm not sure about her last name spelling. So please don't tout to us how pro women Obama is when he is such a little hypocrite. And, when your own party swiftboats people in your own party it is time to take a serious look at voting for a different party. Axelrod disgraced the Democratic party when he put a spin on the Clintons that they were racial when the only thing were doing was stating FACTS. He basically swiftboated the Clintons and I have no used for him or Obama. It is not that women are just upset about Hillary losing. That is the smaller part of the problem with the women voting base. We are upset that a black man can run for President and be treated with kid gloves by everyone and a woman who ran for President be lambasted and hung out to dry by the DNC and American public.We are hurt by the black community whom we worked with on the front lines taking their part, while they benefited from the joint 80 years of service that the Clintons gave them, and turned their backs on Hillary and voted for Obama. They broke our hearts. Don't you people get it? If we simply state that we are upset and fall in line and still vote for Obama what kind of message does that send? That we will complain but always fall in line in the end? No, I say ENOUGH! We will not fall in line and we will not be told we dishonor Hillary and all she stands for, or that we are letting our party down. Our party deserted us and let us down when they treated Hillary Clinton with such disrespect. Before they did these things, we would have all voted for Obama. They made their bed now let them sleep. Obama said he knew Hillary's claws would come out, that he didn't whine like she did about comments, that he knew how she would act, that she was like Annie Oakley and people say those are not sexist comments? You must not understand English if you think that is acceptable treatment for any human being. I am supporting John McCain and I will not vote for Obama even if Hillary is his VP. He doesn't deserve to have her on his ticket. He has no class at all. He is like a Boss Tweed. So, we have 160 clubs throughout the USA within one week of beginning so how many do you think we'll have when we are closer to November? We are not tired to thoughts of the 60s. We are tied to our beliefs from the 60s, we are hanging on to those dreames because they were never fulfilled, because unlike minorities our legislation failed for equal rights. We are treated like second class citizens by our own party and it is not acceptable. We are coming out in numbers to vote for John McCain. It's not like we are putting W in for another term. And, let's face it. What has the Democratic majority accomplished for us since they were elected into office? They have done next to nothing and that is another reason why the women voting block is so fed up with the Democratic party. Perhaps if they don't get their candidate elected to office, who they tried to cram down everyone's throat in primary, they'll wake up and smell the coffeeWomen have always been told throughout history, "It is not a good time for that issue or that belief, etc." If women always sat in the corner and waited until it was a good time to do something or be proactive we would still not have the right to vote and women would still be getting abortions done in back alleys. The time has come for the sisterhood to unite and take a stand. We will not take this treatment from anyone, particularly the DNC, who is supposed to have our welfare at heart. When Obama is not elected perhaps they will think of revamping things and getting their act together. Go MCCain!
Thank you,
Mary Anne

It makes me sad to read all of these comments - people voting for McCain and Republicans out of spite instead of out of beliefs in what the Democratic party stands for. I'm a college educated woman as well - but I don't vote with my gender or any other distinguishing factor that identifies me with a candidate. I will vote for someone that will work to bring universal health care to America, who will appoint a Justice to uphold Roe v. Wade, for someone who can bring international respect back. I think Obama is the right person for what we need now.

And by the way, there is no way to know if Hillary ACTUALLY received the most amount of votes - Obama completely outperformed Hillary in caucus states, where numbers of individual voters aren't necessarily recorded. The Clinton campaign liked to put information out there and just have people recite them - the big states, no wait, the states a Democrat needs to win, no the working class, no the "popular vote"... the constantly moving benchmarks of success would make anyone confused.

I don't think I'm changing anyone's mind in this post, but before people put their anger in front of women's rights, the economy and a war...I beg you to think about it.

In response to this:
"I am sitting her reading these comments, and all I can say shame on us women in America. What are you doing to your Democratic party."

WE aren't represented by the Democratic party--clearly.

Hello,

To all the women who run down Hillary Clinton despite what she has had to endure in this campaign I say, turn in your membership card to the female gender, we don't want your kind. To those who say what we are doing amounts to a temper tantrum I say, typical male and narrow-minded attitude towards women. And, to those of you who think this is a flash in the pan that will not last, think again. It will last, forever! Also, those who think that we are destroying the party in Hillary's name by boycotting the party and the presidential campaign of Barrack Obama, I say nonsense! We will be remembered for taking a stand, for drawing the line in the sand, for saying, ENOUGH!" I am proud to say I am going to be spearheading the CLINTON SUPPORTERS COUNT TOO group in Northeastern Pennsylvania. Anyone in PA who wants to contact me, please do so, with your email address, and I will respond to you in kind. Change does not come easy and it does not come without sacrifice and suffering. This is what it is all about. We would rather suffer through another republican administration than have a sexist, elitist, member of the ole' gasbags club of Washington, D.C. like Kerry and Kennedy, win the election. The point we are trying to make is that if we are treated unfairly and in a sexism manner, no only will we not support the DNC candidate but we will support and campaign for the opposing party's candidate and help them win the election. It is the only way to prove that we are an organized, mobile force to be reckoned with if we are treated disrespectfully like Hillary was in this campaign and like we were were, because she is one of all of us. She will not get the blame for dividing the party. It is utter nonsense. Women, mobilize, join the Clinton Supporters Count too group, and let's take this election from Obama the way he took the nomination away from Hillary Clinton. No holds barred! And the biggest laugh about the whole matter is that WHO DID OBAMA HAVE TO MEET WITH TO ASK THEIR SUPPORT OF HIM TO HELP HIM PULL THIS OFF IN THE GENERAL ELECTION? A WOMAN, HILLARY CLINTON! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! It still is taking a woman to get a man elected! lololololol

From just another angry white woman--no fist bump for you Obama.
Hillary Clinton will now stand in the shadows behind a man even though the people wanted her, voted for her, and even though she was the most qualified. Oh, and she will have to be gracious about it today. Sound familiar? It does to many of us. I can't even watch her speech. She was railroaded into submission by "my" Democratic party. There isn't too much that anyone can do to make up for this narrow thinking. Vice President? Don't think so, I hope she doesn't take this meager compensation, it is insulting. Besides, I don't think that Obama wants someone as strong and bright as she is. Let's put the smart one in behind the politically popular one and all the angry women will be pleased. This sounds a little like the old "throw the little lady a bone." As for me, I am thinking independent, and hopefully this party will get that these "little" people don't care about their "super" vote or which politically correct category they vote for. Some of us still feel that our vote counts over the party popularity vote. Please don't insult the majority of the voters out here by thinking you can somehow get us to embrace your chosen candidate after this very historical event.

I abandoned the Demo Party when it was apparent that the men and africian-americans would rather vote for an ill-prepared black man than a highly qualified woman. I will never vote for a Democrat again. Switched Parties. Am now a registered Rep and voted for McCain in NM Primary, 6/3.

I will support McCain and the entire Republician ticked. Boo Demo Party!!!!!

I do have a problem with Hillary. In the past I was not …I do not believe that she should be on the ticket let America talk…should we advance or stay stupid. If I do not receive health care and support for my financial problems do to the election of McCain. I will blame Hillary and she will not receive a single vote from my household and I will make notice to relative in New York of my change of heart.

For months now, smug condescending, self righteous Obamabots have been calling for Senator Clinton to drop out. They have resorted to personal attacks, character assassination, and ugly insults, rather than addressing the issues ... and, disregarding, and disrespecting the 17 million Clinton supporters, as if we don't even exist, or don't even count. If Obama wins the democratic nomination, I urge fellow Clinton supporters to respond by voting for John McCain in November, as well as voting the super delegates, who jumped Hillary's ship, out of office.

Let's face it, Hillary was thrown under the bus by the black community (most notably Oprah Winfrey). The 40 year alliance with them ends in November!

Hillary lost because of her own arrogance and stupidity, and repeated dishonesty. It's interesting to see the Clinton dupes buy whatever excuse she comes up with, when Clinton's true racist colors have come to light. It's a right wing conspiracy--no it is racist blacks--no it is now sexists. At some point most people realize it is Hillary who will do anything to get elected, from sanctioning the Iraq War to even handing McCain the Presidency. She is no more a Democrat than Lieberman. Both need to be defeated for re election.

I having been riding the Hillary Train since the beginning of the Primaries, but right now I am getting fed up. When Hillary and Bill started the whole race bating thing I continued to ride on the train with her , thinking that it was a clever way to win an election, but now Hillary is claiming sexium as the reason shes losing...she is too hypcritical to me... I'm getting off this train, NOW!

What is wrong with these Obama people? They are ready to give him the carte blanch when he hasn't proven or even come close to showing...that he can handle it! With all of the corruption that needs to be cleaned up from the Bush era...Obama doesn't have the spine!

Keith Olberman, Chirs Mathews' Rachel Maddow and all of the other BIASED AND UNBALANCED OBAMA GROUPIES ON MSNBSC are an embarassment to me...
A COLLEGE EDUCATED WOMAN!

How dare they pontificate about how they are suspicious of the way Hillary is now claiming sexism from the misogynist comments being hurled at her.

I have watched them first hand non-stop Ad nauseam, overtly and covertly from
every male dominated - Barack Obama prejudiced journalist and African American Strong-Arming pundits on Olberman & Matthews show for the past several months!

How come every time any minute reference to racism was raised (Hillary repeating the fact that "Hard-working whites" are voting more for her) ALL OF THE SNIVELING OBAMA SUPPORTING JOURNALISTS WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE OBJECTIVE AND NOT SHOVE THEIR BIASES IN THE FACE OF EVERYONE...SCREAMED, MOANED AND GROANED RACISM???!!!

I'm so sick of it that I'm 90% committed at this point to choose McCain over OBABM in November. I could tolerate him. I am SO turned off by
all of you FORCEFUL, SPITEFUL, and "VICTIMIZED" OBAMA CULTIES
and your radical behavior portrayed on the political programs. THE COLLECTIVE OBAMA WORSHIPERS ARE TRYING TO SHOVE HILLARY OUT...and now IT IS ENOUGH! I'VE HAD IT!

Obama supporters are such hypocrites! If they had integrity they'd have empathy toward the millions of women who have been discriminated against for decades of unfair wages, sexism, exploitation, abuse and all of the other unfair practices against women.

Why denigrate, FOR YOUR SELFISH PURPOSES the first woman candidate?
You'd think OBAMA supporters would recognize that the prejudices against women are similar to those that African Americans have suffered and you'd have empathy.

Think of how you are spitting in the faces of all the women who need someone to finally support and represent them.

I am so furious at all of the OBAMA women I have seen speaking out directly against women these past weeks in smashing, krass and selfish ways. None of the Obama supporters on MSNBC and CNN have even once shown any objective support of women. They keep referring to us in broad brush-strokes as..."the uneducated, women and lower income Clinton supporters."

Thanks a lot! Why should I support Obama or any man when I have worked all my life as a single-parent woman, putting herself through graduate school only to end up being swept into a lifeless, hated and diminishing
box?

With all due respect...

McCain and the Republican Party treat women with much more respect than Obama and his leftist minions. The left say they believe in equality but it's a lie; just like Obama's image.

I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WOULD EVEN CONSIDER TO LET OBAMA RUN THIS COUNTRY. HE CAN'T EVEN RUN HIMSELF OR MICHELLE. HE HAS NO IDEA WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT, HE SAYS ONE THING THEN SAYS "OH, I DIDN'T MEAN THAT"
HILLARY IS VERY PROFESSIONAL AND KNOWLEDGABLE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS COUNTRY. SHE SHOULD BE THE NOMINEE.
ANOTHER THING, THIS SHOULD BE THE PEOPLE'S VOTE AND SHE HAS MORE POLULAR VOTES THAN OBAMA, SO SHE,BY RIGHT, SHOULD BE THE NOMINEE.

How did Obama win over the country? With a lot of help from the media. Everything he did was reported in a positive manner and everything she did was reported with cynicism. Clinton may have been the known candidate when the nomination process first started but we all know the media decides the tone of the election and that tone was against her. if onfairplaying fields, Obama would have been tore apart. He hasn't done anything and he's never caused REAL change. In addtion, if you were going to hire someone to run your company, you wouldn't hire someone with the least experience. It's ridiculous.

I am a 66 yr old white woman and Ive been in the workforce since I was 19. Im voting for Obama not because Ive been duped. I graduated Magna Cum Laude and I have a Master's degree. Im an educated person. I am not a wealthy person. I am from the South and still live in the South. Each candidate started out even or perhaps Hillary had an advantage. I believe it was Obama himself that won us over. He told us WE had to be the change we hoped for. It rang true. Millions of us took up that challenge. I have never in all my years worked for a candidate in any election. I have pulled out all the stops for this candidate. He doesn't do things like the usual politician. I was very attracted by that. Hillary sounds more like the thing I had been used to. She sounds like an old style politician. He has worked for and stood for more transparency in government. I think transparency is possibly the only cure for the power of special interests vs the power of the ordinary citizen. The internet has played a huge role in helping those of us of like mind to join hands and work together for our candidate. Without it, Obama's call for us to be the change we hoped for, could not have been possible. People who say he is only great speeches are proven wrong by the brilliance of his campaign. Does not a brilliantly run campaign signal a brilliantly run government? He has more experience than Abraham Lincoln and Abe Lincoln is one of our most revered presidents. FDR seemed like an unlikely person to run the government and yet he shepherded our country thru some of its worst times...the great depression, WWII,eg. And FDR hid the fact that he could not stand up, much less walk, from his constituents. FDR was a wealthy patrician, very elite but the ordinary and the poor loved him. Those of you who are strong supporters of Hillary, I respect you and your emotion. I feel just as strongly about Obama. One thing you might ask yourselves is this. Why does a person support one candidate over the other? If the media was unfair, do you think you would be the only ones to notice. Do you think most of us are too stupid to know that the media is just about getting the highest ratings and most viewers? It would not stop us from voting for the person we thot was best for the job. I respect Hillary Clinton enough to know that she knew what she was biting off when she decided to run. I bet she thought she was equal to the task. People in politics are often treated unfairly. Its part of what you know going in. The media are just people. The major networks long ago gave up fair and unbiased reporting. Hillary had to know that if she did not win over the media, it would not be a good thing. And you, her supporters are saying she did not win them. Did she underestimate their power? Did she think she could win without their support? So many of you are saying this was unfair and you are making this your reason to put McCain in the whitehouse? Politics is not fair. Politics is just politics. Hillary knows that. She's been thru it enough to know. Look at what happened to Al Gore in Florida with the hanging chads. Anyone who thinks politics is fair is really naive.
My next point is that all that money you talk about spending to help McCain win in the fall should have been given to your candidate, Hillary. She really struggled during these last few months and owes millions. Where were you when she needed you? Why did she have to pay for canvassers here in Texas where I live? Why didn't you volunteer for her? Why is she having to pay bloggers if that is true? Why were you not making the case for her for free?
And my last point is that Barack is not responsible for the problem with Florida and Michigan. It was the Republican Administrations in those states which created the mess. Barack is not the enemy. He is not the enemy in November. I am what Southerners call a yellow dog democrat which means, if the Democrats run a yellow dog, I will support that dog against a Republican. If you believe in Democratic principles, voting for McCain would be the equivalent of committing suicide for your candidate. I am a very strong Barack supporter, but I would not commit suicide for him. I hope you Hillary supporters will do some soul searching and think about what Hillary stands for and not let her down by voting Republican in the fall and dont stay home which is the same as voting Republican. You thot we needed Hillary Clinton, I thot we needed Barack Obama but I think we can both agree that we need a Democrat desperately. Our country is in terrible ruins. McCain will finish the job on America. We need a democrat to correct the course and get us back on track, about the war, about the economy, about the climate, about justice for all. We need a democrat to tilt the country back to caring for ordinary citizens more than the wealthy 1% that have gotten such preferential treatment from the Republicans. Barack is not the enemy. If your candidate does not prevail in the primary, Barack is our only hope. If Hillary and Bill were not running for the office, they would be campaigning for the democrat in this race. Can you do any less for your country? I know it hurts. I would be devastated if my candidate lost the primary but I would not get mad enough to vote Republican. That hurts me and it will hurt you too, if that is the path you decide upon. Please dont throw away our chance to take back our country. with respect, a yellow dog in Texas.

Wake up Obama girls and smell the coffee! Those of us who have been fighting for our reproductive rights (that you take so ungratefully for granted) don't need them any more. Actually, Many of us older feminists like the fact that you can be president when you are in your 70's! THERE is NO hypocracy in voting your own interests. This is how it should be: McCain for PResdent -2004. Hillary 2008!

I can't vote for Obama. I don't understand why Democrats are determined to screw themselves again. He is the least experienced candidate. The real reason why he is ahead her is because he gets 92% of the black vote. No one talks about this but Obama has benefitted the most from racism during this election. Hillary is the most qualified candidate and she is getting shoved aside by someone who hardly has anyone experience. And the tone toward Hillary by the NBC commentators was horrible. Why didn't Chris Matthews and Keith Obermann just wear Obama t-shirts? She never stood a chance.

I will not vote for Obama. How anyone can say he is the best qualified for the presidency is either sexiest or has his head in the sand. Being black is not a qualification. I wouldn't vote for him regardless of his color. "CHANGE" needs to be defined. What is he going to change. I haven't heard him say what he will change. The Democratic Party and some of the so-called super delegates say they are afraid if they don't vote for Obama they will alienate the black people and they won't come out to vote in the general election. That works both ways. I hope all women will remember how this nomination process has been handled and either sit out the election or vote for McCain. Women should quit being like sheep; by letting the "super" guys make all the decisions and we will just follow. If the "super-delegates" are going to decide the nomination, then why should we bother having primaries The other thing that really bothers me is categorizing voters. We are "ALL" Americans and have the right to vote. It doesn't make any difference if we are working class, or if we don't all have a college degree. I'm praying for Hillary to be our next president.

It's interesting to look at Sen. Obama's senior staff and see that there are no obviously Asian or Latino names and that there are very few women.

Here's the list from wikipedia:

Campaign staff and policy team
On January 14, 2007, the Chicago Tribune reported that Obama had begun assembling his 2008 presidential campaign team, to be headquartered in Chicago.[17] His team includes campaign manager David Plouffe and media consultant David Axelrod, who are partners at Chicago-based political consulting firm AKP&D Message and Media.[18] Communications director Robert Gibbs was previously press secretary for John Kerry's 2004 presidential campaign.[19]

Other members of the campaign staff include Deputy National Campaign Director Steve Hildebrand,[20] New Media Director Joe Rospars,[21] speechwriter Jon Favreau,[22] national press secretary Bill Burton, travelling press secretary Dan Pfeiffer, policy development Cassandra Butts, finance director Julianna Smoot, research director Devorah Adler, and pollsters Paul Harstad and Cornell Belcher.[23]

A number of Obama's top aides have backgrounds with former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle,[24] who left the Senate due to re-election defeat at the same time Obama was entering it.

Obama's economic advisors include chief Austan Goolsbee, who has worked with him since his U.S. Senate campaign, Paul Volcker, Warren Buffett,[25] health economist David Cutler and Jeffrey Leibman.[26] His foreign policy advisors included a core of nine people: Gregory Craig, Richard Danzig, Scott Gration, Anthony Lake, Denis McDonough, Samantha Power, Ben Rhodes, Susan Rice and Daniel Shapiro[27] until March, 2008 when Samantha Power stepped down. A larger group of 250 advisers is divided into subgroups of about 20 people, each focusing on a specific area or topic.[28] His legal affairs advisors include Martha Minow, Ronald Sullivan, Christopher Edley Jr., Eric Holder and Cassandra Butts.[29]

Among his field staff, Paul Tewes and Mitch Stewart led Obama's winning Iowa caucus campaign and one or the other of them directed field operations in many other crucial states, including Nevada, Minnesota, Texas, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Indiana.

Hillary's continued lies about the popular vote total now.
I have written to Howard Dean, to contact the supedelegates. She cannot be trusted, because now every day she is lying--every day!--on the stump. She would try to steal the nomination through manipulation- -in a heartbeat. The result would be the virtual destruction of the Democratic Party and civilnunrest--riots in the street--as a pundit said last night.

Please, help finish this so we can go after Mccain. Get the support for Obama to claim the nominaion.

Rhonda-41-white -single mother
Obama supporter

Those who say a vote for McCain will extend the war, so "good" Democrats should not even consider voting for him are forgetting that the Dems promised to end the war if we voted for them in '06.
See how well that worked out?

Dont Stop Hillary Dot Com.

Independent run for Hillary.

I second what Dawn said, "If you didn't see it, that's because either you weren't looking, or because you consider too many of those statements and attitudes as "normal" rather than sexist. If you seriously want to see it, go back and check the coverage."

I can not believe some of these comments and this blog entry. Bitter people don't cling to God and guns, they cling to Hillary Clinton.

Sexism didn't undo the Clinton campaign, mismangement, poor planning and lack of funds did.

I pray Hillary will have the courage to run as an independent in November when the DNC closes her out of the race. She has the influence and money to over turn some of the ballot access laws, and the willpower to do it.

For those who think that women will vote for Obama when it comes down to it, they are wrong - completely wrong. I will join the boycott too. I am tired of inexperienced men being chosen over women with experience. I have been talking about the sexist comments the media has been saying for months. Obama is getting a big pass and the media, who always like to be king makers, are giving credit to Obama where credit is not due. oh, and by the way. I live in Florida. Hillary did NOT brake any rules in Florida. She did not campaign here at all. The rules were that no one would campaign and it didn't happen. I live here, I know. Obama took his name off of the Michigan ballet and that was his strategic decision - it is time to stop making excuses for Obama. He has done well and that its not the issue. The issue is the continued sexist comments from the media that are totally out of order

I will write in "Hillary" if I have to I have HAD to vote for men all of my life. I have had NO choice. And I am DONE not having a choice. Oh and ....anit there more of us women than them??????

I am from Nebraska and My family will join the boycott and campaign against Obama if he gets the election. Hillary has been treated so unfair by the DNC and the media. We have had it and so have the blue collar workers, Catholic, gun toting White, Hispanic, Jewish and all races that the Obamas look down on. Just read Michelle Obamas Princeton thesis. It tells you exactly why they stayed in Rev. Wrights church for 20yrs. She beleives everything Rev. Wright says. She also beleives in the Ayers, didn't Mrs. Ayers work with Michelle Obama in her law office in the nintys? You had better take a long look at what their agenda is. They want to raise taxes on anyone who makes over $50,000. That takes in just about any family with both parents working and struggling to pay their bills. Obama wants to raise capital gains taxes to 28% capital gains taxes, if you decide to retire and sell your largest asset (your home) to live on you will pay 28% to the Gov. and not to your savings to live on. We have fought hard for alot of years to get rid of this unfair taxes. Both Democrates and Republicans have fought to lower or get rid of the capital Gains Taxes. Obama doesn't care about the elderly, if he did he wouldn't do that. He also doesn't want voters to be able to have a private retirement fund to go along with their social security fund. Everyone should be able to have both and get Tax credits for having a private retirement fund that will make up for the downfall of social security. Yes we will campaign for McCain if Hillary is not the nominee.

I HOPE AND PRAY
That those of yours who are planning on boycotting the democratic party.
Can live with themselves when their sons and daughters’ are off to fight WW3
McCain is another bush X2

Civics test America. Its NOT the president who writes the budget. Its not the president who sets the agenda for the economy. The Congress writes and passes a budget that is then sent to the President to sign or veto. Look back to 2006 before we voted democrats into control of both houses of congress. Take a civics lesson America.

I just stumbled across this blog and can not beleive it. Talk about sniper fire! McCain has already announced his litmus test for judicial nomimations, that is right to life and illegallizing abortions. Talk about cutting your nose off despite your face. McCain would be ruinous. No way could I pull a lever to support him. Ever. If Obama gets nominated, he needs to get elected. I think Hillary could have had it if her and Bill had not gone so negative. It was hers to lose, and she lost it. Obama didn't do it to her, she did it to herself.

I just stumbled across this blog and can not beleive it. Talk about sniper fire! McCain has already announced his litmus test for judicial nomimations, that is right to life and illegallizing abortions. Talk about cutting your nose off despite your face. McCain would be ruinous. No way could I pull a lever to support him. Ever. If Obama gets nominated, he needs to get elected. I think Hillary could have had it if her and Bill had not gone so negative. It was hers to lose, and she lost it. Obama didn't do it to her, she did it to herself.

It's funny how this issue is just now coming up when it's been happening all along. If there had been racist comments happening all along we would have never heard the end of it. Obama was annointed the winner by the press a long time ago because of his gender and his race. They are afraid to be critical for fear of being called racist. I have voted Democratic for the past 20 years but that streak will come to an end in November...

Our family regrets its vote for Edwards and his ambitious faux rhetoric.

My sisters and their families across America and friends all plan to boycott the vote for Obama on the issue of trust. While some plan to write in Hillary, the majority plan not only to vote for McCain but also to fully campaign for him. We too feel that the party has discounted our votes and interfered with a viable candidate’s chances for nomination.

Obama’s voting pattern in the state legislature is a mockery of an elected position. While Republicans and Democrats were in unison on giving sexual crime victims the right to seal their records, Obama’s vote was the sole dissent. He claimed that it was unconstitutional. He would often vote and change this vote the day after (according to the New York Times.) I say it was most likely to have it recorded by newspapers before he changed it. This pattern of behavior is a red flag to what lies ahead.

If anyone can post anything on the buses on May 31, please post it, and some of us will be on it.

"Listen people, I for one am hurting the way things are now. Change is necessary and important. Obama has a vision like no other for our future."

HOW, HOW, and again HOW?! Talking about change is all wonderful and inspiring and all that...but how about some information on HOW! Vision is pie in the sky w/out a plan on how to actually get there. Being charismatic and inspiring are all for naught w/out a plan! I've not seen a plan. I've not heard a plan. I don't think there is a plan! There's all this wonderful, feel-good rhertoric, but little else.

I won't vote McCain, but I'll not vote Obama under any circumstance either. I don't think I'm alone, either. I think McCain is going to be the next president.

You people are the true racist, and sexist, and sore losers. If Hillary had won the nomination, I would have supported her all the way to the White House. However, Obama is leading and most likely will win the nomination, so it is he who I will cast my vote. I remember when an actor ran in 1980, people were saying an he was a bad govenor, and a was talking voo-doo economics. Listen people, I for one am hurting the way things are now. Change is necessary and important. Obama has a vision like no other for our future. I like what he envisions. I will vote for him, and I assure you more people are like me than you. Mr. Obama will be the next president of the United States, and will bring America back to her rightful leadership place in the world. I just pray that you have enough respect for the office and yourself to apologize on this forum the same way you a spewing your venom.

As we're told, "As Ye Sow, So Shall Ye Reap."

Any attempt to undermine Senator Obama's candidacy will ultimately be the end of Senator Clinton's 2012 bid.

I'm an Obama supporter who will vote for Clinton if she win's the Democratic nomination.

However, if Clinton supporters destroy his chances in 2008, Mrs. Clinton will stand absolutely no chance in 2012. It's easy enough to follow the blue prints that have been drawn.

I am sitting her reading these comments, and all I can say shame on us women in America. What are you doing to your Democratic party. If Hillary is any true Democratic she would put a stop to this split of the party. Even though I will vote for Obama if he is the nominee. I would also vote for Hillary if she is the nomiee bacause I do not want another Republican in the WP. Let stop with this he/she fight and vote on the issues. Both can do a good job if we let them. The world is watching and laughting at us. STOP IT. and come together as one.Superdelagates please stop this right now.

Tee, hit it right on the head, Hillary has been the target of the media and a lot of men, especially the ones that were running for the nomination by the Deocratic Party. They in no way want Hillary to win that position. Yet, Hillary campaigned for Kerry and Edwards when they were running. What turncoats. The women better get organized and support Hillary or this nation is going down but fast,especially if BHO gets the nomination. If, I were Michigan and Florida voters, I would all vote for John McCain in the fall against BHO since the DNC dosen't value their votes or delegates to be seated. This would show the Democratic Party where its voters stands. A lot of people are changing to republican if Michigan and Florida are not counted. I know that they are voting for John McCain in Nov. if Hillary does not receive th nominaton. Its the ego of Kerry, Kennedy, Edwards, Richardson, and these other senators against Hillary. Nothing but jealousy!!!!!!!!!!!!!June from Pa.

I knew from the beginning that I wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton based on the judgement calls she has made in her own personal life. She has been married to a fillanderer for years and has always turned a blind eye. I cannot respect that. As a registered Democrat my first choice was Joe Biden and second choice Chris Dodd. When those two gentlemen dropped out I briefly considered Huckabee but never McCain. Why isn't the media focusing on the fact that he was one of the Keeting Five? Fair and Balanced - Give me a break!

We have already being contacted by this group in NC and we will make our voices heard!!! We will not support Obama at any cost. The DNC better get ready because we will be in the millions by the time the GE comes around. We are getting organized and well funded too.

I am a man and quite frankly this primary has suffered from sexism that has made me ashamed to be a Democrat. Hillary Clinton has far more substance to her campaign, yet has not nearly received the layer of protection, especially from the press, that Obama has
greatly benefited from, and worse he has actually
committed to nothing and offered even less on solutions. I am proud to stand with woman on this!

Tony
your are right, "activist" "left wing" so called "progressive" don't win election in this country. You are right on BO as a fake "progressive". When you examine a candidate so you can choose, you want to investigate about the real idendity of the candidate. The problem with BO is it lacks consistency. For instance with HC, you can identify her personality, her ideas and know where she stands, whether you like her or not.
That is more difficult with BO. I guess it's because it takes more time to lay out a consitent design of one's project of life. For the moment, he seems more like an ambitious young senator.
The flaw of this primary is the precipitation of the left wing of the Democrat party to put up some one against Hillary whom they try to label as from the old establishment democrats. She is more complex than that.
I wish more voters get to find out more about politics and make a real choice, instead of being manipulated left and right.

I dont know if Obama is sexist, but I thing after hearing John Edwards say Barak Obama is the "best man" for the job...it makes you wonder??? As for Florida and Michigan, being from Florida, the only rule that was imposed on the candidates was they were not to campaign in the state; nowhere were they told to remove their names from the ballot. Some candidates CHOOSE to remove their name from the ballots. The fact that their names were on the ballot, is the issue with us. Why allow us to vote for a candidate, if the DNC decided not to count our votes (a big contradiction)...no candidate name should have appeared on our ballots if that was the case. This in itself is the question. The candidates had a CHOICE in removing their names from the ballots...Barak CHOOSE remove...Hillary CHOOSE stay in Michigan. Barak woke up and CHOOSE stay in Florida. Remember, both states were under the same rules...which was not to campaign, but they could raise money in the state, which is what Hillary did.

Florida will be seated because of the following...

For the first time, the number of Hispanic Democrats in the state is expected to exceed the number of Hispanic Republicans.
The Florida secretary of state is expected to release the month's voter registration figures to the state Democratic and Republican parties. The last set of figures, released in April, showed a bare majority of 212 Republicans over Democrats among the state's roughly 1.2 million voters who describe themselves as Hispanic on their official voter registration forms. In each month since the state started tracking Hispanic registration more than two years ago, Democrats have gained.

Do you really thing the DNC is going to loose these voters...just as they're getting these voters...I dont think so..count Florida in...this is what all the fuss in about.

Tone said: "he's not sexist, but calls women (oh, he claims everyone) "sweetie." the list goes on and on...."

Tony, would you stop compilig this dirty list on Obama? :-) 90% of men and women in this country call people "sweetie", hunny sweetheart etc. and the rest of us do not do this only because they do not speak English :-)

If calling woman a "sweetie" is sexist, then I guess calling man a "brave heart" is also sexist.

The way Barack got his first Senate Seat was to get his democratic competitors thrown out of the race. He sent his aides to the courthouse and they just kept challenging signatures until they got all 4 of his competitors disqualified. This included the incumbent, Alice Palmer. Old-style Chicago Politics.
What is so inspirational about Barack?

The way Barack got his first Senate Seat was to get his democratic competitors thrown out of the race. He sent his aides to the courthouse and they just kept challenging signatures until they got all 4 of his competitors disqualified. This included the incumbent, Alice Palmer. Old-style Chicago Politics.
What is so inspirational about Barack?

Myst said: "It is absolutely disgusting how the media has fawned and swooned over Obama while burying the dirt on him until it was too late for America to react. It is even more disgusting when coupled with the fact that the same media demonized Hillary and shouted at her to get out of the race ..."

Can you name one Obama's "dirt" that was not discussed on the media? On the other hand, how much have you heard about Hillary's dirt (whitewater etc.). Her lie about Bosnia snipers was the only this that got attention. This discussion is full of un-substantiated accusations about Obama and Mass Media. In this race, Obama did behave himself as a true gentlemen and Hillary... well she did not (sorry for another sexist remark)

Jesse -- apparently no one gave you the reader on how "progressive" dems don't win national elections -- and they aren't even progressive anyway. Obama is a fake progressive. He's nothing but a greedy politician trying to be everything to everybody to get elected. he's postracial, but the first black president, and he's a racial victim - although he's postracial...he's above politics, but he bowls and drinks beer for votes; he's against nafta but wont try to repeal it...he's not sexist, but calls women (oh, he claims everyone) "sweetie." the list goes on and on....

Forshom said: "Equality means that you win or lose on your own merits. Full stop."

GREAT. So when Obama loses due to our boycott, don't blame us or Clinton. Blame him!

I don't know the laws in Illinois, but if possible I will write in Hillary's name. I will never vote for the fraud Obama or the warmonger Mc Cain. I will not penalize those lower on the ticket and will cast my ballot for them. But Hillary should be the nominee and I refuse to accept it if she is not.

Ha….Who was it that said if you cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen? It was the woman who should of stayed home and baked cookies. I used to hate the clintons, but now I love them. Obama used to scare me, but no more. My man McCain is on the train to the white house and we can finally get some conservative values back. The clintons have divided the party and shown BO is a very flawed candidate. All these women are staying home because the ol boys wouldn't let them in the clubhouse. I'm glad they're staying home. Please do. McCain will get 2 supreme court nominees and we can finally overturn letting women murder innocent children (roe v wade). Plus I dont have to worry about my taxes going up to pay for healthcare. You want healthcare?…get a job and pay for it. I see more woman and Hillary supporters saying they wont back Obama. Good, John McCain needs your vote. I just watched 2 woman on the O'Reily show last night say because of the dnc's sexist approach to this election, they are organizing thousands of women in FL, OH, MI, and PA to actively campaign against Obama. Talk about idiots cutting off their nose dispite their face. However, I welcome it. A party divided stands no chance in November. All the congressional gains the dnc is making wont matter because a republican will still be in the white house. God Bless America.

i will probably not vote for mccain...i'll write in hillary, but there is absolutely NO WAY i will vote for obama. i'm infuriated by the mere sight of him now. i used to think i wanted hillary to be the nominee and him to be the vice president, but now i want him to just go away in some obscure mayoral position in some town i will have no chance of ever visiting. what a disppointing, egocentric, arrogant man.

There's no doubt in my mind that a black man with Obama's background faces a steeper climb than a rich, white woman such as Hillary Clinton. Clinton also subtly played on Obama's race, essentially accusing him of being unelectable because he couldn't appeal to white people.

If sexism is such a factor, then why was Hillary the presumptive nominee for so long, and why did she get the party backing, and as much support as she got. She bungled her campaign and ran it in a mean-spirited way, with no clear message distinguishing her from the current regime - that's why she came up short. Blaming it on gender reflects a kind of sexism in itself - an assumption that she SHOULD win because she is a woman. But voting based on gender, race etc. is simply not very intelligent. We should choose the best person - no?

One poster mentioned violence against women. But men face exponentially more violence than women do - this is seldom mentioned. A certain chivalrous attitude towards Hillary may have hurt her campaign. Male candidates were hesitant to attack her, while she had no such inhibitions. Why do people keep saying how "tough" she is and what a "formidable opponent"? Would they say that if John Edwards were the candidate facing Obama?

Equality means that you win or lose on your own merits. Full stop.

Remember what people are saying now, cause it is spelling a lot of trouble for Obama, he doesn't have and probably won't have the latinos, blue collar white workers, older crowd comes november and probably the majority of women too when u put McCain supporters and Hillary's supporters that won't vote for Obama. I think that's something Obama should worry about big time.

This isn't religion; it's politics. These candidates are people, not saints.

There is no conspiracy to keep Senator Clinton down. There is no New World Order plot; the mother ship wasn't waiting behind Hale-Bopp.

Eventually, even Mrs. Clinton will be part of the plot against herself. She'll campaign for Obama; she'll raise money for Obama; and she’ll fight for Democratic party, her true power base.

At that point, her currently adamant followers will turn on her. Or worse, they find a plot to explain why she's stayed a Democrat while they have moved on and started a leaderless new party.

I'm voting with the party of the people - the Democratic Party. And I'm sure Mrs. Clinton is doing the same.

Any educated Dem knows that hillary is barely better than a republican. She is a centrist who would be far to willing to appease the republicans by giving into their agenda. This has nothing to do with gender people!!!! Hillary just is not the right person to bring about change. America needs 8 years of true progressive thinking from someone like Barack Obama to undo the damaged that GW has done to our nation. Electing Hillary would be a band-aid. Electing Barack Obama is a solution. Stop whining about gender already and get back in touch with reality.

Talk about Kool-Aid drinkers?? Clinton's cult-like followers have her up on a pedastal thinking she's some kind of goddess, and that Obama is therefore evil. When you're willing to do ANYTHING to support one candidate, including attempt to sabotage the other that shares her views on policies, out of anger and revenge, women who take their right to vote seriously are disgusted, and I have no doubt that would include Clinton, who wants a Democrat to win, WHOMEVER that candidate is.

Just a bunch of bitter, self centered women!!!

Especially for Tony, in his 7:16 a.m. post on May 17:

The posts here, all one thousand plus, are a microcosm of this campaign. If something can be heartening and sickening at the same time, then that’s my assessment of the experein