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Women Threaten Obama Boycott

May 15, 2008 5:04 PM

FROM GUEST-BLOGGER RICK KLEIN, OF ABC'S THE NOTE

I've posted a few times  in the last two days about female supporters of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton who are angry -- at the Democratic Party, at the Obama campaign, or at the general situation that sees their candidate facing tough times, in their view, in part because of sexism.

Just talked to a 55-year-old Columbus, Ohio resident named Cynthia Ruccia, a spokesperson and organizer for a group calling itself "Clinton Supporters Count Too." She said the group -- numbering in the hundreds, and organized in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, and Michigan -- stands ready to boycott the Democratic Party if Clinton doesn't win the nomination, and will work against superdelegates who support Obama over Clinton as a means of registering their displeasure with the party.

"We have a plan to campaign against the Democratic nominee," the group said in a press release Thursday. "We have the (wo)manpower and the money to make our threat real. And there are millions of supporters who will back us up in the swing states. If you don’t listen to our voice now, you will hear from us later."

Ruccia tells ABC News that she believes "millions" of women share her group's views, though they have only begun to make contact with like-minded women. They're disgusted, she said, that Democratic Party leaders haven't more aggressively denounced sexist media comments and coverage in the campaign, and are angry at the drumbeat for Clinton to get out of the race.

"We're just at the boiling point," Ruccia said. "Women will sit back and be quiet about things for a while, but we've had enough. Unless Hillary Clinton is our nominee, we are not going to support the nominee."

Part of their plan, she said, is a primary-night boycott of NBC and MSNBC during next Tuesday's primaries in Kentucky and Oregon, particularly to protest comments made by Chris Matthews and David Shuster that her group feels were sexist.

Ruccia said she doesn't necessarily view the disqualifying of delegates from Florida and Michigan as sexist in itself, but added: "I do believe the people there will not forget that Sen. Obama stood in the way of having their vote counted."

This is one group, and not a very large one at this point. But in gauging the fallout among female voters of this divisive campaign, it's also worth keeping in mind what's going on in the wake of NARAL Pro-Choice America's decision to endorse Obama on Wednesday.

As documented by the Huffington Post's Sam Stein, NARAL blogs are being overwhelmed, and many state affiliates are angry at the national group's decision.

Emily's List is furious. And Martha Burke, former chair of the National Council of Women's Organizations, tells Stein she is "disappointed": "It feels like they are abandoning a known ally for a less committed candidate because they want to jump on a bandwagon. I think the pro-choice community should stick by a woman who has stuck by them."

It's impossible to know at this point how big an issue this would be for Obama if he's the nominee. But clearly he would have some major work to repair rifts inside the party -- even if little of it is his fault, directly.

I confess to being a man who has not always seen what his female friends and colleagues see as sexist in this race. What do you think? Has Sen. Clinton faced particular (unfair) challenges because of her gender? More than Sen. Obama has faced because of his race?

-- Rick Klein

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Enough!

We must come together as Americans and elect Barack Obama for President.

Obama/Biden 08

Posted by: michelle | Sep 18, 2008 7:00:50 PM

The reason women are voting for John McCain is because we feel that the party, who always had us in their hip pocket, showed very little respect to Hillary Clinton during this campaign. They need to realize that when they allow women to be treated so disrespectfully that they will lose our vote to the Republican party. How backed into a corner must we feel that we have no choice but to endorse the opposing party's candidate? Sexist men and young voters had their voices heard and nominated Obama. We deserve to have our voices heard and endorse who we want as form of protest. Obama had NO WOMEN in the upper crust of his campaign until today. He appointed a baby boomer to try and lure women back to the Democratic camp. Until today, he had none. McCain had a women high up in the campaign, Karly Firiona, I'm not sure about her last name spelling. So please don't tout to us how pro women Obama is when he is such a little hypocrite. And, when your own party swiftboats people in your own party it is time to take a serious look at voting for a different party. Axelrod disgraced the Democratic party when he put a spin on the Clintons that they were racial when the only thing were doing was stating FACTS. He basically swiftboated the Clintons and I have no used for him or Obama. It is not that women are just upset about Hillary losing. That is the smaller part of the problem with the women voting base. We are upset that a black man can run for President and be treated with kid gloves by everyone and a woman who ran for President be lambasted and hung out to dry by the DNC and American public.We are hurt by the black community whom we worked with on the front lines taking their part, while they benefited from the joint 80 years of service that the Clintons gave them, and turned their backs on Hillary and voted for Obama. They broke our hearts. Don't you people get it? If we simply state that we are upset and fall in line and still vote for Obama what kind of message does that send? That we will complain but always fall in line in the end? No, I say ENOUGH! We will not fall in line and we will not be told we dishonor Hillary and all she stands for, or that we are letting our party down. Our party deserted us and let us down when they treated Hillary Clinton with such disrespect. Before they did these things, we would have all voted for Obama. They made their bed now let them sleep. Obama said he knew Hillary's claws would come out, that he didn't whine like she did about comments, that he knew how she would act, that she was like Annie Oakley and people say those are not sexist comments? You must not understand English if you think that is acceptable treatment for any human being. I am supporting John McCain and I will not vote for Obama even if Hillary is his VP. He doesn't deserve to have her on his ticket. He has no class at all. He is like a Boss Tweed. So, we have 160 clubs throughout the USA within one week of beginning so how many do you think we'll have when we are closer to November? We are not tired to thoughts of the 60s. We are tied to our beliefs from the 60s, we are hanging on to those dreames because they were never fulfilled, because unlike minorities our legislation failed for equal rights. We are treated like second class citizens by our own party and it is not acceptable. We are coming out in numbers to vote for John McCain. It's not like we are putting W in for another term. And, let's face it. What has the Democratic majority accomplished for us since they were elected into office? They have done next to nothing and that is another reason why the women voting block is so fed up with the Democratic party. Perhaps if they don't get their candidate elected to office, who they tried to cram down everyone's throat in primary, they'll wake up and smell the coffeeWomen have always been told throughout history, "It is not a good time for that issue or that belief, etc." If women always sat in the corner and waited until it was a good time to do something or be proactive we would still not have the right to vote and women would still be getting abortions done in back alleys. The time has come for the sisterhood to unite and take a stand. We will not take this treatment from anyone, particularly the DNC, who is supposed to have our welfare at heart. When Obama is not elected perhaps they will think of revamping things and getting their act together. Go MCCain!
Thank you,
Mary Anne

Posted by: Mary Anne | Jun 13, 2008 4:20:36 PM

It makes me sad to read all of these comments - people voting for McCain and Republicans out of spite instead of out of beliefs in what the Democratic party stands for. I'm a college educated woman as well - but I don't vote with my gender or any other distinguishing factor that identifies me with a candidate. I will vote for someone that will work to bring universal health care to America, who will appoint a Justice to uphold Roe v. Wade, for someone who can bring international respect back. I think Obama is the right person for what we need now.

And by the way, there is no way to know if Hillary ACTUALLY received the most amount of votes - Obama completely outperformed Hillary in caucus states, where numbers of individual voters aren't necessarily recorded. The Clinton campaign liked to put information out there and just have people recite them - the big states, no wait, the states a Democrat needs to win, no the working class, no the "popular vote"... the constantly moving benchmarks of success would make anyone confused.

I don't think I'm changing anyone's mind in this post, but before people put their anger in front of women's rights, the economy and a war...I beg you to think about it.

Posted by: Melissa | Jun 12, 2008 10:36:40 PM

In response to this:
"I am sitting her reading these comments, and all I can say shame on us women in America. What are you doing to your Democratic party."

WE aren't represented by the Democratic party--clearly.

Posted by: Liberal without Representation | Jun 9, 2008 9:29:05 AM

Hello,

To all the women who run down Hillary Clinton despite what she has had to endure in this campaign I say, turn in your membership card to the female gender, we don't want your kind. To those who say what we are doing amounts to a temper tantrum I say, typical male and narrow-minded attitude towards women. And, to those of you who think this is a flash in the pan that will not last, think again. It will last, forever! Also, those who think that we are destroying the party in Hillary's name by boycotting the party and the presidential campaign of Barrack Obama, I say nonsense! We will be remembered for taking a stand, for drawing the line in the sand, for saying, ENOUGH!" I am proud to say I am going to be spearheading the CLINTON SUPPORTERS COUNT TOO group in Northeastern Pennsylvania. Anyone in PA who wants to contact me, please do so, with your email address, and I will respond to you in kind. Change does not come easy and it does not come without sacrifice and suffering. This is what it is all about. We would rather suffer through another republican administration than have a sexist, elitist, member of the ole' gasbags club of Washington, D.C. like Kerry and Kennedy, win the election. The point we are trying to make is that if we are treated unfairly and in a sexism manner, no only will we not support the DNC candidate but we will support and campaign for the opposing party's candidate and help them win the election. It is the only way to prove that we are an organized, mobile force to be reckoned with if we are treated disrespectfully like Hillary was in this campaign and like we were were, because she is one of all of us. She will not get the blame for dividing the party. It is utter nonsense. Women, mobilize, join the Clinton Supporters Count too group, and let's take this election from Obama the way he took the nomination away from Hillary Clinton. No holds barred! And the biggest laugh about the whole matter is that WHO DID OBAMA HAVE TO MEET WITH TO ASK THEIR SUPPORT OF HIM TO HELP HIM PULL THIS OFF IN THE GENERAL ELECTION? A WOMAN, HILLARY CLINTON! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! It still is taking a woman to get a man elected! lololololol

Posted by: Mary Anne Whitonis | Jun 8, 2008 2:21:21 PM

From just another angry white woman--no fist bump for you Obama.
Hillary Clinton will now stand in the shadows behind a man even though the people wanted her, voted for her, and even though she was the most qualified. Oh, and she will have to be gracious about it today. Sound familiar? It does to many of us. I can't even watch her speech. She was railroaded into submission by "my" Democratic party. There isn't too much that anyone can do to make up for this narrow thinking. Vice President? Don't think so, I hope she doesn't take this meager compensation, it is insulting. Besides, I don't think that Obama wants someone as strong and bright as she is. Let's put the smart one in behind the politically popular one and all the angry women will be pleased. This sounds a little like the old "throw the little lady a bone." As for me, I am thinking independent, and hopefully this party will get that these "little" people don't care about their "super" vote or which politically correct category they vote for. Some of us still feel that our vote counts over the party popularity vote. Please don't insult the majority of the voters out here by thinking you can somehow get us to embrace your chosen candidate after this very historical event.

Posted by: No fist bump for you | Jun 7, 2008 8:00:21 AM

I abandoned the Demo Party when it was apparent that the men and africian-americans would rather vote for an ill-prepared black man than a highly qualified woman. I will never vote for a Democrat again. Switched Parties. Am now a registered Rep and voted for McCain in NM Primary, 6/3.

I will support McCain and the entire Republician ticked. Boo Demo Party!!!!!

Posted by: karen styers | Jun 4, 2008 9:39:13 PM

I do have a problem with Hillary. In the past I was not …I do not believe that she should be on the ticket let America talk…should we advance or stay stupid. If I do not receive health care and support for my financial problems do to the election of McCain. I will blame Hillary and she will not receive a single vote from my household and I will make notice to relative in New York of my change of heart.

Posted by: Diana | Jun 4, 2008 6:04:30 PM

For months now, smug condescending, self righteous Obamabots have been calling for Senator Clinton to drop out. They have resorted to personal attacks, character assassination, and ugly insults, rather than addressing the issues ... and, disregarding, and disrespecting the 17 million Clinton supporters, as if we don't even exist, or don't even count. If Obama wins the democratic nomination, I urge fellow Clinton supporters to respond by voting for John McCain in November, as well as voting the super delegates, who jumped Hillary's ship, out of office.

Posted by: Lee | May 29, 2008 5:58:18 PM

Let's face it, Hillary was thrown under the bus by the black community (most notably Oprah Winfrey). The 40 year alliance with them ends in November!

Posted by: Sandy Erastus | May 29, 2008 5:52:58 AM

Hillary lost because of her own arrogance and stupidity, and repeated dishonesty. It's interesting to see the Clinton dupes buy whatever excuse she comes up with, when Clinton's true racist colors have come to light. It's a right wing conspiracy--no it is racist blacks--no it is now sexists. At some point most people realize it is Hillary who will do anything to get elected, from sanctioning the Iraq War to even handing McCain the Presidency. She is no more a Democrat than Lieberman. Both need to be defeated for re election.

Posted by: Mitch | May 27, 2008 11:28:46 PM

I having been riding the Hillary Train since the beginning of the Primaries, but right now I am getting fed up. When Hillary and Bill started the whole race bating thing I continued to ride on the train with her , thinking that it was a clever way to win an election, but now Hillary is claiming sexium as the reason shes losing...she is too hypcritical to me... I'm getting off this train, NOW!

Posted by: TOMKAT | May 25, 2008 10:21:48 PM

What is wrong with these Obama people? They are ready to give him the carte blanch when he hasn't proven or even come close to showing...that he can handle it! With all of the corruption that needs to be cleaned up from the Bush era...Obama doesn't have the spine!

Keith Olberman, Chirs Mathews' Rachel Maddow and all of the other BIASED AND UNBALANCED OBAMA GROUPIES ON MSNBSC are an embarassment to me...
A COLLEGE EDUCATED WOMAN!

How dare they pontificate about how they are suspicious of the way Hillary is now claiming sexism from the misogynist comments being hurled at her.

I have watched them first hand non-stop Ad nauseam, overtly and covertly from
every male dominated - Barack Obama prejudiced journalist and African American Strong-Arming pundits on Olberman & Matthews show for the past several months!

How come every time any minute reference to racism was raised (Hillary repeating the fact that "Hard-working whites" are voting more for her) ALL OF THE SNIVELING OBAMA SUPPORTING JOURNALISTS WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE OBJECTIVE AND NOT SHOVE THEIR BIASES IN THE FACE OF EVERYONE...SCREAMED, MOANED AND GROANED RACISM???!!!

I'm so sick of it that I'm 90% committed at this point to choose McCain over OBABM in November. I could tolerate him. I am SO turned off by
all of you FORCEFUL, SPITEFUL, and "VICTIMIZED" OBAMA CULTIES
and your radical behavior portrayed on the political programs. THE COLLECTIVE OBAMA WORSHIPERS ARE TRYING TO SHOVE HILLARY OUT...and now IT IS ENOUGH! I'VE HAD IT!

Obama supporters are such hypocrites! If they had integrity they'd have empathy toward the millions of women who have been discriminated against for decades of unfair wages, sexism, exploitation, abuse and all of the other unfair practices against women.

Why denigrate, FOR YOUR SELFISH PURPOSES the first woman candidate?
You'd think OBAMA supporters would recognize that the prejudices against women are similar to those that African Americans have suffered and you'd have empathy.

Think of how you are spitting in the faces of all the women who need someone to finally support and represent them.

I am so furious at all of the OBAMA women I have seen speaking out directly against women these past weeks in smashing, krass and selfish ways. None of the Obama supporters on MSNBC and CNN have even once shown any objective support of women. They keep referring to us in broad brush-strokes as..."the uneducated, women and lower income Clinton supporters."

Thanks a lot! Why should I support Obama or any man when I have worked all my life as a single-parent woman, putting herself through graduate school only to end up being swept into a lifeless, hated and diminishing
box?

With all due respect...

Posted by: Trish | May 25, 2008 2:37:05 PM

McCain and the Republican Party treat women with much more respect than Obama and his leftist minions. The left say they believe in equality but it's a lie; just like Obama's image.

Posted by: Susy | May 24, 2008 12:20:49 AM

I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WOULD EVEN CONSIDER TO LET OBAMA RUN THIS COUNTRY. HE CAN'T EVEN RUN HIMSELF OR MICHELLE. HE HAS NO IDEA WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT, HE SAYS ONE THING THEN SAYS "OH, I DIDN'T MEAN THAT"
HILLARY IS VERY PROFESSIONAL AND KNOWLEDGABLE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS COUNTRY. SHE SHOULD BE THE NOMINEE.
ANOTHER THING, THIS SHOULD BE THE PEOPLE'S VOTE AND SHE HAS MORE POLULAR VOTES THAN OBAMA, SO SHE,BY RIGHT, SHOULD BE THE NOMINEE.

Posted by: vi-ohio | May 23, 2008 9:30:38 PM

How did Obama win over the country? With a lot of help from the media. Everything he did was reported in a positive manner and everything she did was reported with cynicism. Clinton may have been the known candidate when the nomination process first started but we all know the media decides the tone of the election and that tone was against her. if onfairplaying fields, Obama would have been tore apart. He hasn't done anything and he's never caused REAL change. In addtion, if you were going to hire someone to run your company, you wouldn't hire someone with the least experience. It's ridiculous.

Posted by: Gary | May 23, 2008 5:45:30 PM

I am a 66 yr old white woman and Ive been in the workforce since I was 19. Im voting for Obama not because Ive been duped. I graduated Magna Cum Laude and I have a Master's degree. Im an educated person. I am not a wealthy person. I am from the South and still live in the South. Each candidate started out even or perhaps Hillary had an advantage. I believe it was Obama himself that won us over. He told us WE had to be the change we hoped for. It rang true. Millions of us took up that challenge. I have never in all my years worked for a candidate in any election. I have pulled out all the stops for this candidate. He doesn't do things like the usual politician. I was very attracted by that. Hillary sounds more like the thing I had been used to. She sounds like an old style politician. He has worked for and stood for more transparency in government. I think transparency is possibly the only cure for the power of special interests vs the power of the ordinary citizen. The internet has played a huge role in helping those of us of like mind to join hands and work together for our candidate. Without it, Obama's call for us to be the change we hoped for, could not have been possible. People who say he is only great speeches are proven wrong by the brilliance of his campaign. Does not a brilliantly run campaign signal a brilliantly run government? He has more experience than Abraham Lincoln and Abe Lincoln is one of our most revered presidents. FDR seemed like an unlikely person to run the government and yet he shepherded our country thru some of its worst times...the great depression, WWII,eg. And FDR hid the fact that he could not stand up, much less walk, from his constituents. FDR was a wealthy patrician, very elite but the ordinary and the poor loved him. Those of you who are strong supporters of Hillary, I respect you and your emotion. I feel just as strongly about Obama. One thing you might ask yourselves is this. Why does a person support one candidate over the other? If the media was unfair, do you think you would be the only ones to notice. Do you think most of us are too stupid to know that the media is just about getting the highest ratings and most viewers? It would not stop us from voting for the person we thot was best for the job. I respect Hillary Clinton enough to know that she knew what she was biting off when she decided to run. I bet she thought she was equal to the task. People in politics are often treated unfairly. Its part of what you know going in. The media are just people. The major networks long ago gave up fair and unbiased reporting. Hillary had to know that if she did not win over the media, it would not be a good thing. And you, her supporters are saying she did not win them. Did she underestimate their power? Did she think she could win without their support? So many of you are saying this was unfair and you are making this your reason to put McCain in the whitehouse? Politics is not fair. Politics is just politics. Hillary knows that. She's been thru it enough to know. Look at what happened to Al Gore in Florida with the hanging chads. Anyone who thinks politics is fair is really naive.
My next point is that all that money you talk about spending to help McCain win in the fall should have been given to your candidate, Hillary. She really struggled during these last few months and owes millions. Where were you when she needed you? Why did she have to pay for canvassers here in Texas where I live? Why didn't you volunteer for her? Why is she having to pay bloggers if that is true? Why were you not making the case for her for free?
And my last point is that Barack is not responsible for the problem with Florida and Michigan. It was the Republican Administrations in those states which created the mess. Barack is not the enemy. He is not the enemy in November. I am what Southerners call a yellow dog democrat which means, if the Democrats run a yellow dog, I will support that dog against a Republican. If you believe in Democratic principles, voting for McCain would be the equivalent of committing suicide for your candidate. I am a very strong Barack supporter, but I would not commit suicide for him. I hope you Hillary supporters will do some soul searching and think about what Hillary stands for and not let her down by voting Republican in the fall and dont stay home which is the same as voting Republican. You thot we needed Hillary Clinton, I thot we needed Barack Obama but I think we can both agree that we need a Democrat desperately. Our country is in terrible ruins. McCain will finish the job on America. We need a democrat to correct the course and get us back on track, about the war, about the economy, about the climate, about justice for all. We need a democrat to tilt the country back to caring for ordinary citizens more than the wealthy 1% that have gotten such preferential treatment from the Republicans. Barack is not the enemy. If your candidate does not prevail in the primary, Barack is our only hope. If Hillary and Bill were not running for the office, they would be campaigning for the democrat in this race. Can you do any less for your country? I know it hurts. I would be devastated if my candidate lost the primary but I would not get mad enough to vote Republican. That hurts me and it will hurt you too, if that is the path you decide upon. Please dont throw away our chance to take back our country. with respect, a yellow dog in Texas.

Posted by: Marty | May 23, 2008 4:46:35 PM

Wake up Obama girls and smell the coffee! Those of us who have been fighting for our reproductive rights (that you take so ungratefully for granted) don't need them any more. Actually, Many of us older feminists like the fact that you can be president when you are in your 70's! THERE is NO hypocracy in voting your own interests. This is how it should be: McCain for PResdent -2004. Hillary 2008!

Posted by: ginny | May 23, 2008 2:51:55 AM

I can't vote for Obama. I don't understand why Democrats are determined to screw themselves again. He is the least experienced candidate. The real reason why he is ahead her is because he gets 92% of the black vote. No one talks about this but Obama has benefitted the most from racism during this election. Hillary is the most qualified candidate and she is getting shoved aside by someone who hardly has anyone experience. And the tone toward Hillary by the NBC commentators was horrible. Why didn't Chris Matthews and Keith Obermann just wear Obama t-shirts? She never stood a chance.

Posted by: Gary Brunton | May 22, 2008 11:53:17 PM

I will not vote for Obama. How anyone can say he is the best qualified for the presidency is either sexiest or has his head in the sand. Being black is not a qualification. I wouldn't vote for him regardless of his color. "CHANGE" needs to be defined. What is he going to change. I haven't heard him say what he will change. The Democratic Party and some of the so-called super delegates say they are afraid if they don't vote for Obama they will alienate the black people and they won't come out to vote in the general election. That works both ways. I hope all women will remember how this nomination process has been handled and either sit out the election or vote for McCain. Women should quit being like sheep; by letting the "super" guys make all the decisions and we will just follow. If the "super-delegates" are going to decide the nomination, then why should we bother having primaries The other thing that really bothers me is categorizing voters. We are "ALL" Americans and have the right to vote. It doesn't make any difference if we are working class, or if we don't all have a college degree. I'm praying for Hillary to be our next president.

Posted by: teppi | May 21, 2008 1:36:23 PM

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