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It's been anything goes as far as attacks on Hillary Clinton and face it, the timing on this was calculating. In light of everyone telling Hillary to get out of the race for the last 2 months and the fact that the hinting of impropriety on a plane flight when it turns our Chelsea & her boyfriend were on that flight makes this more like The National Enquirer. Bill Clinton has every right to be mad. Attack the Clintons for fun. We saw what happened when the adds came out about Michelle Obama. Obama's couldn't take it and that was a spit in the ocean compared to the trashing that Hillary took. If journalists had actually done their jobs in the first place, there would be no Obama and had it not been for the internet we still wouldn't know the truth. That is why he will not get elected in November. It will be interesting to see how the Obama's handle the coming months because the worst is yet to come.

Women leaders have performed superbly in recent history: Margaret Thatcher, Indira Ghandi, Benazir Bhutto. It's a shame that a woman seeking the presidency in this country is subjected to the media and punditry attacks that Hillary Clinton has sustained.

History books will mention Bill Clinton's name along with the names of people who help make history.
Some people are jealous to death because they are resentful in their heart and soul.
Who cares how many mistresses he had or didn't have. Who cares that JF Kennedy had lots of mistresses in the White House.
Historical deeds and facts only will remain.
I presume that people on this blog who trash Bill and Hillary are young because they were still wearing diapers to remember how good were the Clinton years.
Some people make a living feeding others with negative and dirt.
Oh they make history by preventing a woman to benefit from the name she carries by throwing dirt at it, and consequently will raise doubts in people's mind about her electability!
Voters, can't you figure this out and move on to the important issues : economy, health care, war, global warming.

Pres. Clinton is so RIGHT. The media ripped the democratic party apart by their BIAS coverage. They intentionally injected race into the campaign (e.x. after Obama won IA they were commenting on the white state of IA voting for Obama and predicting the SC win for Obama because of the large black population), way before the MLK/LBJ,"fairytale" and "Jesse Jackson" comments and then BLAME the Clintons. Reporting every criticism of Obama by Clinton as an attack. In any political contest, you must criticize your opponents recpord and lack thereof, so why in this election, that became an attack? And guess what? too many IDIOTS in the democratic party fell for the media's machinations - the democrats are split and the media's real darling McCain will be president. JOURNALISM IS DEAD.

House Painter,

Amen to that. I just want the Republicans out of MY White House, LOL!

Anyone wondering how George Bush was elected to two terms just has to read the
childish comments posted here.

God help us.

I, for one, will proudly vote for Barack Obama in November and then take responsibility for my government by holding my elected officials to the law and to their promises.

Good Morning Kate!!

I'm half asleep, up late watching the Red Wings lose! :(

tired dem

I Understand exactly how you feel. I am Independent also. I vote for whomever I feel will do the best for our Nation and our family.

That being said, I just cannot vote for McCain. We live in MI and NAFTA has just obliterated our economy.

My husband works (for now at least, LOL) for Chrysler.

McCain supports tax cuts for large Corporations. These companies thank the Government and the American people by building factories overseas.

I can remeber when American's used to build things, make things. Now we just buy things. Us spending OUR money is what drives the economy today and we can't afford it.

McCain wants a "free market" health care plan. Bush did the whole "free market" with Student loans, now our kids (my son turns 18 in 2 weeks) will have to pay 25% interest, when my husband and I paid 4%. I don't want to have to pay 30% on a valve replacement, LOL!

There is just too much at stake to elect John McCain. He just doesn't get it.

We used to be Upper Middle Class, now we are struggling.

I truly respect Pres. Clinton and appreciate the way he is campaigning for and defending his wife. Fortunately and unfortunately for Sen. Clinton, her husband still commands a "bully pulpit" and thus every word he utters is scrutinized by the media and played in sound bite after sound bite. This does not happen for the other candidates' spouses as they are not as famous.

As for the questions about how a "true Democrat" or a Clinton supporter would vote for McCain, I can only speak for myself but imagine that my thinking is similar to many others.

When voting, I look at each candidate. I do not vote a straight ticket, however, almost every time (except one person), I have voted for the Democrat. But it still comes down to that candidate, his/her platform, ideas, and character. As a president, I feel character and work ethic are most important. Thus, I over whelmingly support Sen. Clinton. As it appears that she will not the Democratic Nominee, I will either write in her name or vote for Sen. McCain because I feel his work ethic and character can be called into question much less than Sen. Obama. In my opinion (and let us please all remember it is opinion in these comments), he is too inexperienced, has not truly offered anything new for the American people and I am concerned about his judgement.

Do I realize that there will most likely be Supreme Court nominees? Yes and I believe the Democratically (hopefully still will be) controlled House and Senate will do its job and truly scrutinize each nominee accordingly. If they will not, when I vote I will remember that and vote for the better work ethic and character.

His latest outburst is as good an argument for not putting Hillary on the ticket as I've ever seen. Can you imagine this clown having these kind of self-pitying meltdowns during the general election campaign?

As the author pointed out last night on MSNBC, Bubba's response to the Vanity Fair article didn't dispute anything factually. He just calls the guy names. Sounds like the current White House response to a book by a former Press Secretary.

The most biased coverage in history ? Gimme a break Bill ! The almighty Clinton's sure do not like losing , they are acting like spoiled rotten children ! There's always some nut job writing and saying outrageous garbage , there's been plenty of it to go around , it's not been all on poor Clinton , not by any stretch .

The Clinton's found out to their dismay they are not thee Democrat party after all and their egos are smarting , very poor no class losers is what they are . What did Hillary say ? If you can't take the heat ...

June said "This means that the mainstream press ought to now give full coverage to the Larry Sinclair allegations of gay sex and cocaine use with Obama back in 1999. Come on Vanity Fair. Why don't you cover that story?"

You are absolutely right. With junk like the Purdum story getting out there via Vanity Fair and the punditocracy, it seems to me that Larry Sinclair's allegations deserve some attention, too.

Not only is it a ridiculous collection of speculation of unnamed sources and the author's own amateur psycho-babble, it is poorly written. It seems to go haphazardly from fantasy to allegations to attack to sarcasm and third-party analysis. This whole piece sounded more to me like a high school student's first attempt at a research paper.

Good for Bill Clinton that he has fought back on this!

Purdum's hit job on President Clinton is in incredibly poor taste. God, what has this country come to? It amounts to smears with no sources or references. Well guess what? This means that the mainstream press ought to now give full coverage to the Larry Sinclair allegations of gay sex and cocaine use with Obama back in 1999. Come on Vanity Fair. Why don't you cover that story?

sledd | Jun 2, 2008 10:25:30 PM;

We will be voting for a man whose integrity and patriotism is unquestioned.

His experience in the Senate is lengthy and his associates are not questionable.

There would be none of the drama of Obama....... but there would be none of the danger, either.

The last time I check, Vanity Fair Magazine and Hustler Magazine was in the same rack. Both trash.

The Vanity Fair article is very unfair and biased. Why don't they check out why Senator Obama saw Tony Rezko almost every week, why Rezko was forced to buy an unwanted vacant lot so the Obama could get their dream house mansion, why Obama and Bill Ayers are still close friends, why the Obamas stayed in a racist, hate-mongering church for twenty years. The article against Bill was for the political pandering against Hillary Clinton. Obama has so much baggage, a freight train is needed to move it a mile down the track. He is sleaze and so is Purdum, the writer of the article. The Clinton are a class act compared to the Obamas

I read Purdum's hit piece until page 2 (out of 8) and as soon as I read he blamed Bill for playing the race card in SC, I knew it was nothing but a hit piece. AxelRove at it again. I wonder how much Purdum collected from the BO campaign to write that unbelievable cr*p?

What make this hit piece even MORE hurtful? Purdum is married to Dee Dee Myers who was Bill Clinton's WH Press Secretary.

People are hateful and mean just to be hateful and mean. Shame on Purdum and shame on Dee Dee for not stopping it out of respect for her old boss.

Come on people...do all of you support your own family as you so fervently patronize President's and candidates you don't even know? The Presidency was once an office held in high esteem and now has succumbed to idiots being chosen no matter the political party. One poster is correct: Clinton; take responsibility for your own actions and stop blaming everyone else. Good God, Americans blame their problems and everything on everyone else but yourselves. It's pathetic the people and country we have become. None of you realize it yet, but the days of our country's glory are over. We will fall just like Rome...from within. Study your history. Very sad...

See... I sure do hope your right, she will get my support as a Independent Female canidate.

Sure Bill. Everything is always someone else's fault.

Bill Clinton has become a great disappointment. I liked him a lot and supported him during the impeachment. It is actually sad to see the man today. He seems to imagine enemies everywhere. The most ridiculous assertion though is that this was Obama's fault. This is twisted logic indeed.

After Wright OBAMA WAS RAKED OVER HOT PRESS COALS and his Wyoming victory the next weekend was barely reported.

In depth? Of course there were no indepth articles on Obama that's why people falsely link his opinions to Wright.

BOTH CANDIDATES WERE TESTED BY THE MEDIA.

What Bill Clinton says is a sign leaving DNC.... Hillary will run as third party.

Yeah, and I agree with the poster who asked "where are all the in-depth pieces on the Obamas?" Oh, yeah, right...not fair to look that deep.

I would like to see national town halls with John McCain speaking directly to Democrats. If Senator McCain can come back to center on the policies that matter to us; namely, the economy (including potentially naming Hillary Clinton to Secretary of Health & Human Services so that we can get universal health care done once and for all), the environment and the war, then electing John McCain is the smartest thing that we can do. Plus, what could be more emblematic of true CHANGE in American politics than to be able to have a candidate listen to people on both sides and put together a bi-partisan slate of must-haves for America.

Go get 'em, Bill! I like this man more and more everyday.

Julia wrote:

...when she bows out, you can be assured that her supporters, (and it numbers over 15 million) will not vote for Senator Obama.
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So, let me get this straight, 15 million people are going to vote FOR a pathetic-if-best health care system, an INCREASE of troops to Iraq (all of which McCain proposes), and another stogy conservative on the bench because of the media?

You go Bill. The Clinton's aren't taking anymore crap after tomorrow.

McCain/Clinton '08

why attack senator obama,this article is about bill clinton's possible being unfaithful to his wife and his mental state.

Who cares? I'm voting for McCain in the general so Hillary can try again in 4 years!

Hey Millie,
Not so poor a choice. The only rational choice.

Hey, my vote goes for Hillary...no way I will vote for Obama. In the end McCain will get my vote...poor choice I know, but better than a man I do not know.

Hey, my vote goes for Hillary...no way I will vote for Obama. In the end McCain will get my vote...poor choice I know, but better than a man I do not know.

Isn't "Liberal Pride" an oxymoron?

Thanks, Bob. My definition disappeared, however. Helloooo, Mr.Ms. Moderator. Why do you leave all of the mud-slinging toward Michelle Obama on here but remove a harmless, if off-topic, nod toward liberal pride?

OK, I read a post on here claiming that McCain and Clinton are moderates and Obama is a liberal - and making liberal sound like devil worship so I go off and write some indignant reply, only to post it and find that the other post had disappeared. Oops, I'm really not a raving lunatic, but I AM a bleeding-heart liberal and proud of it! =)

The journalist from vanity fair is right wing man. Republican really want this primary over as Obama supporters want, because they cannot wait to trash husein obama.

He's absolutely right. Had this been happening to Obama, we'd hear cries of racism etc from his camp. But it happened to her primarily because "journalists" inserted themselves into this campaign and took a side and simply made this about Senator Obama. That said, when she bows out, you can be assured that her supporters, (and it numbers over 15 million) will not vote for Senator Obama.

Well do tell, its just true that "chicken do come home to roost." Just ask Bill, he'll tell you so.

Glenna thank you for that definition. Makes me proud to be a liberal.

Bob F...

I don't get it either, if you look at their voting record they are extremely close. People who want health-care will vote republican? People who want to get out of Iraq will vote republican? Does not make sense to me, but I don't get the bitterness towards Obama either. I don't see what he has done to justify it.

As unsavory as I find this article I think this was only the tip of the iceberg. Had Clinton not made the right decision, as all signs point to her withdrawing from the race, the VF article would have been followed by more and more. Obama's camp did a very good job of staying away from these issues, the shady deals, the unpleasant company they keep, the odd marriage arrangements and on and on. A lesser candidate would have brought it all up. It makes it even more amazing that when the Clintons were bringing up the crime records of the kid who delivers the Obamas papers and try to tar him with it, he did the right thing.

But I think the press finally got tired of looking the other way. Tired of holding back the stories while the Clintons cryed shame and talked about being "vetted".

This is not a conspiracy. It simply shows that all of the political capital that kept the sorry and sad facts about the Clintons out of the media has been spent.

I always wonder what the people who say they are Democrats but are voting for McCain are thinking. I think that they must not have had a very good understanding of what Senator Clinton's positions were because she is very far from McCain in most of the important issues.

First it was the Right-wing conspiracy, now it is the left-wing. Give me a break. Think the Clintons are divisive, they won't even keep their own party together.

Everyones against them, better get them on some stronger meds.

Michelle Obama: “Don’t trust bloggers … because people lie”

naveen k,

yes they are all pro. pol. but why would obama want the clintons to campaign for him?

Michelle obama has said she does not want them
michelle obama when asked if sen. clinton were the nominee
if she would campaign for sen. clinton
michelle said i would have to think long and hard about that.

I wonder if Purdum plans an article about all of Obama's achievements...ooops, can't find any. Perhaps Purdum will write about how Obama won his seat in the Senate...don't think he will, he would have to get into sticky things like Obama and the Daley machine, how sealed court divorce documents surfaced 2 months prior to election day and his opponent withdrew or sweetheart real estate deals and Michelle's $200,000 pay raise after his win to the Senate. Don't hold your breath.

Let's add paranoia to Pres. Clinton's narcissistic personality disorder. First, it was the great "right wing conspiracy." Now, it's the great "left wing conspiracy." Everyone is either out to "slime" him or "slime" Hillary. As another Bill once wrote, "Men at some time are masters of their fates. The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves, that we are underlings." The Clintons should look inside and stop casting about to explain the the campaign meltdown from the clear frontrunner to second place.

Bill and Hillary will campaign for Barack Obama. They are all professionals and they are all adults and in less than two weeks the primary will have been forgotten. Any Democrat who says they will vote for McCain is either speaking out of anger or doesn't know what they are talking about. The guy recently said he wants to increase troop levels in Iraq...again. Cmon people, put the silly bickering aside, calm down and assess what matters.

Unfortunately, in attacking the former President for his intemperate remarks during the primary, the media have failed to take into account the impact of Clinton's bypass surgery.
The neuropsychologic impairment and the deterioration of neurocognitive functions, as well as "personality changes" following bypass surgery are well-documented phenomena in the field of medicine.
This may help explain why a politician once known for being a smooth talker and for winning over crowds, now frequently sticks his foot in his mouth and becomes too easily agitated and abrasive.

you know what rich,
you are right,
who read vanity fair?
and this guy has just joined the bandwagon of all the other so called reporters trying to get PAID at the clintons expense.

so many of the so called mainstream reporters and tv heads you see today.
made themselves rich writing about the clintons. writing about the clintons true or false will assure a sleazy reporter will make a name for him/herself.

Seriously, who reads Vanity Fair anyway? I respect the Clinton family immensely, but come on, they're above this crap. Let rag mags say what they will.

i just heard obama say sen. clinton will be with him and they will be united.
michelle obama does not want the clinton' to campaign for obama.
and the clinton' will most likely not be campaigning for obama.

Bill Clinton hit the nail on the head.

That"s exactly how B O operates; HE never is the bad guy; his supporters do all of his mud slinging and he just sits back and laps it all up hiding within his teflon suit!

And why would Hillary WANT to be BO's Vice President?

She would be cleaning up after his gaffes goofs and boneheaded antics every day! She'll have enought of an opportunity to be a nursemaid after Chelsea has kids.

I don't worry about Hillary; it's our loss, not hers should she not win.

But knowing what I do about Bozo, I know I can never vote for him.

The DNC is broken. It no longer represents the Democratic party.
It no longer is Democratic!

The stupidity of their mandating the disenfranchisement of two (out of five) states because they "dis-obeyed" was not rectified by their actions this weekend.

If Hillary doesn't win....
I WILL hand over my vote to McCain because I have more faith in him than in B O.

And as far as I'm concerned .... the racists are the ones voting for Obama.... not the ones basing their votes on the good of our country rather than the color of the candidate skin.

But truth to say, when I see some of
B O's blunders I see G R E E N!!!!

Country before party!

When Obama's kids will become an embarrassment will he kick them out too?
I agree with Bill. Obama is the most disingenuous person I've ever seen. You can be a great guy when you let others to the dirty work for you. I guess this is the definition of a "good politician".

why attack like this... its just more sick divisive language to try to continue to tear the party apart

Yep, It's Obama's Fault.
Sure Bill.

Something tells me we won't see Pres. Clinton campaigning for Sen. Obama this fall. More pointedly, Clinton's reaction is probably a good indication that Sen. Clinton will not be the V.P. nominee.

Did they ask her if she heard Reverend Wright say hateful things and what she thought about that?

Can't wait for the Vanity Fair article on Michelle Obama.... oh wait... the left-wing media will never write an in-depth article on Michelle Obama.