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Clinton Won South Dakota?
June 04, 2008 7:02 AM
Another reason why her loss may be so difficult for Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, to accept?
She closed strong.
Not only did she stomp on Sen. Barack Obama with more than 30-point victories in West Virginia, Kentuky and Puerto Rico, last night she won a state that Obama was predicted to win by double digits: South Dakota.
There he'd been endorsed by practically every state political icon, minus Mount Rushmore -- Daschle, McGovern, Johnson, Herseth-Sandlin.
She lost strong and he got weaker.
Still, he racked up enough points in the first 60% of the contests, it didn't matter when it came to the final score.
- jpt
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Ellie, you obviously are not a regular reader of this blog. I am a staunch conservative Republican who is supporting Sen. McCain (although he wasn't my first choice -- that was Dr. Condoleezza Rice). My point was that with everything that Sen. Obama has going for him, this is going to be a really challenging, but interesting, general election.
Posted by: James Danley | Jun 4, 2008 10:23:21 AM
Barack was "given" more votes than any candidate in history. Shameful to think we have an affirmative action nominee.
Posted by: livegap | Jun 4, 2008 10:22:50 AM
Obama was "given" votes. NOBODY in Michigan voted for him.
Posted by: livegap | Jun 4, 2008 10:19:33 AM
Keep convincing yourself James Danley...keep convincing yourself. =)
Good grief.
Posted by: Ellie | Jun 4, 2008 10:17:28 AM
Clinton and Obama are not alike in their policies. This is another empty spin to sell Obama. Obama tries to copy Clinton when it suits him. Clinton is actually a lot closer to the way the moderate McCain has voted in the past. Both McCain and Clinton are known to reach across the aisle and make compromises. Obama is the most liberal candidate of all. Please do not sell lies to get votes.
Posted by: voter | Jun 4, 2008 10:10:28 AM
This race was Hillary's to lose. She was the inevitable candidate at the end of last year, with double digit leads in most of the major states. She had all the advantages.
If anyone is to blame, it is her campaign staff for a lousy strategy and Bill Clinton for his ill-timed remarks.
Nothing was "stolen" from her. She and Mark Penn ignored the smaller caucus states and it ended up costing her the nomination. Do not punish Obama for this; he ran a very positive campaign. In fact, Hillary attacked him much more often than he attacked her.
If you really believe that the media caused this result because of bias, then boycott a newspaper or cable news channel. Do not punish the country by voting out of spite for McCain. That is petty and childish.
Posted by: GG | Jun 4, 2008 10:01:03 AM
I was so happy that Hillary did not concede and there was so much pressure for her to do so. I admire her strength and fortitude and am hoping that she will stay on through to the convention. Obama does not have the magic number with pledged delegates and therefore he has not won the nomination. The media can repeat this over and over but these are nothin but spins.
Posted by: voter | Jun 4, 2008 9:50:40 AM
I think the next few days might be somewhat interesting.
Whatever the Republicans have on this Obama character will probably start rising to the surface very soon.
Hillary is smart, and I think she realizes there must be something in the wind. This is probably why she won't concede.
I still say this isn't over. Denver and August are still more than two months away.
Posted by: SandyB | Jun 4, 2008 9:47:04 AM
Newly Independent, I totally agree. I have been a democrat and support democratic issues. I have been horrified how the new democrats are behaving. There is so much treachery and unfairness that it feels better to have 4 more years of GWB to Obama. Not Cheney or Cheney's relative Obama. Therefore, I sincerely believe that McCain is a much better candidate to support. He is moderate and works hard for what is fair and respects people. I could never support an empty suit like Obama and writing in Hillary means that I am throwing my vote away in support of Obama. Therefore my vote is definately for McCain. I am proud of what Hillary has acheived and will support all her endeavers. This november, my support goes to McCain because the democrats do not deserve it.
Posted by: voter | Jun 4, 2008 9:46:43 AM
Man, you die hard Clinton supporters are idiots. Conspiracies? Thefts? What are you talking about? This was a perfectly normal, if quite long, primary. Clinton made a host of political and strategic gaffs and it cost her. Obama won fair and square. She didn't win the popular vote and she didn't win in the delegate count. Get over yourselves. It's embarrassing. So now you'd vote McCain? You idiots are putting your personal bias before your senses. You sound like whiny children. It's time to move on folks. Put your energy into getting the whitehouse back from the Republicans. Unless all you really care about is your candidate and not this country. Sadly, it seems to be the case with most of you. It's sad, your "we're taking out toys and going home" attitude. Wake up. There's bigger fish to fry.
Posted by: ian | Jun 4, 2008 8:55:39 AM
Let's not forget that the difference is only 10 thousand votes in South Dakota.
Montana was the bigger win the night.
And the nomination was the major and superior one.
Posted by: hank | Jun 4, 2008 8:47:16 AM
Forget about Hillary taking the VP slot. Obama is unfit to be the US senator let alone be the President. Hillary should stay away from him.
Posted by: Ex-democrat | Jun 4, 2008 8:26:08 AM
Dear fellow democrats who voted for Hillay, stay calm. don't get intimidated. don't buy the b.s about "party unity". What party? what unity?
If Hillary is not the nominee, contribute your time and money and your precious voe to ensure McCain is our next president.
Country is more important than party and it is your patriotic duty to defeat Obama.
Posted by: Ex-democrat | Jun 4, 2008 8:24:14 AM
Obama's got a lot of work ahead. If he fails to choose Hillary as his running mate, he will have a LOT of trouble beating McCain. The SD primary shows one thing, even after the media, DNC, and all the others declared Obama the winner, Hillary kept winning primaries to the end and held all her core demographics. If the DNC chooses to ignore this, they deserve to lose.
Posted by: Amazed | Jun 4, 2008 8:23:20 AM
I will not vote for Sen.Obama without
Sen. Clinton on the ticket. McCain will win the election without Clinton.
Posted by: eric vandervort | Jun 4, 2008 8:20:52 AM
Hillary got screwed. We dont want Obama and we are not going to vote for him. the DNC wanted him -they can have him.
Posted by: jimbo | Jun 4, 2008 8:17:30 AM
He racked up delagates in caucuses were his people strong-armed normal people with force.
A lot of his caucus people were bused in from different states with the express purpose of overwhelming the political workers at each caucuses.
So what we have here ladies and gentlemen is a losing combination for democrat president.
Because I dont know of any states in the GE that run caucuses for president.
Posted by: toby | Jun 4, 2008 8:15:47 AM
Candy I was at a gathering last night of mostly women who fought for her campaign...
They were not happy with her speech.
But then again these women were educated so maybe you would call them elitist. (seriously i am not sure)
but all of them besides 2 were very bothered by her lack of acknowledging the numbers...and that she (and I said nothing during this whole thing) was doing exactly what all those horrible Obama people (and they pardoned their slight on me) said this campaign was about...
she was proving that it was about her and not the the people who were supporting her or any other American for that matter.
One woman even said "no wonder she has a 30% approval rating"
they were all angry but for the first time I saw they were angry at her.
and I truly said nothing...I wasn't about to get my head chewed off.
and these women were all prominent supporters from the NH campaign.
Posted by: dl | Jun 4, 2008 8:00:49 AM
vote for mccain lol
just because your person lost
your just as juvenile as she is... what happened last night is that she was left standing there
obama holds all the cards... she can claim she does but this is the thing
if she wants to be VP, not conceding and not being gracious, and not congratulating him on getting the number of delegates was a grave mistake on her part...
one in a long line of mistakes
it doesnt matter waht she does, even if you count michigan and florida in full, he goes over the 2210 number as well
ITS OVER
and what a speech he gave
contrast that with mccains... i wonder how you could even vote for that freak
Posted by: bhrandon | Jun 4, 2008 7:59:37 AM
Bottom line -
I don't really want her to run has Obama's VP but if he chooses Clinton as his running mate, he will win the general election. If he does not, he will lose to McCain.
Posted by: mhhunt | Jun 4, 2008 7:57:56 AM
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