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Nope. It is Bush's failed leadership, the Republican party and Hillary Clinton that want to over-promote capitalism and then label everybody in the worker "class" as marxists, communists and socialists. Personally, I find that Marx was 100% correct when he said that capitalism was based on exploitation.

Look at the H1b visa issue. Bush, Clinton and the Republicans could have very easily listened to the AMERICAN PEOPLE about whether or not H1B visas are putting AMERICAN TECHNOLOGY WORKERS out of work. Instead, they only listened to the "capitalist class" to create policy over the "working class" in America.

According to Wikipedia, Marx was opposed to exploitation of workers.

"Marx refers to the exploitation of an entire segment or class of society by another... in other words, capitalism functions on the basis of paying workers less than the full value of their labor, in order to enable the capitalist class to turn a profit. This profit is not however moderated in terms of risk vs. return."

Republicans on the tech "worker" issue:
See techcrunch website article dated 4/21/08

Obama on the same tech "worker" issue: See the "issues/technology" section of Obama's official campaign website.

Edwards:
Google "Edwards and H1-B Visa"

Clinton:
See the "news/speech" section of Hillary Clinton's official campaign website.

Obama '08!

(He's FOR the people no matter the label you want to attach.)

Oh how I miss Tom Delay!

JR-

I do not think we are disagreeing on substantive issues/ideas. And you do a good Buckley; and if he said it, I might have let the comment slide.

If you read my first post again, I said Marx was wrong. You point out the problem again with Marxism/Communism - it is done at the point of a gun. And hence, the objection to the usage of Marxism in this context - it is suggesting a move towards totalitarianism. Obama does not suggest this and has specifically stated that government is not the solution for all of society's ills. That comment is not marxist, communist, or socialist.

So, to me, Obama wants to be a proverbial Robin Hood. The question is where he draws the line and how he spends the money he robs from the rich.

MIGuy,

I’m not sure exactly what you think I’m defending. For the most part what I’ve read on these posts is Obama being “defended” against the “charge” of Marxism. What I’m saying is that I don’t see being labeled a Marxist as being a “charge” against Obama at all, just a description of his political milieu. You stated:

“I do not argue that Obama's positions are advocating wealth redistribution”

Well from what social framework might he have drawn that approach? Something Adam Smith penned? You seem to want to quibble over the use of the term “Marxist” in lieu of ‘populist’ or ‘progessive’. Fine – I just bought a “pre-owned” car; although others might say it is “used”. Essentially - is this any different? So Delay is a shady ex-congressman assailing Obama as an "old school Marxist radical liberal" on a right-wing talk show. Would it have been more palatable if it was William F Buckley being interview on NPR stating blandly that “Obama’s positions belie a philosophy of classical orthodox Marxist ideology”. Would these be separate and distinct claims with different levels of validity? “Used” or “pre-owned”. (FYI I have no idea if Buckley or anyone else said that I’m just trying to make a point).

On your final point – anyone that references Christianity to bolster and defend in imposition of Marxist/Populist/Progressive agenda does have a point that there are similar threads running though both of them in terms of caring for you neighbor. However, they seem to brush off the fatal flaw in that argument: Christianity advocates that these ideals are freely chosen by the individual - Marxist/Populist/Progressive agendas are imposed on collective by the state at the point of a gun.

JR-

Am I being the one defensive, or are you? Please read my post again if necessary - I didn't say that "anyone" doesn't know what Marxism is, but the comments on here certainly suggest it. As you seem to have an idea, the comment is not directed at you. As such, however, you clearly realize that none of the candidates are offering Marxism - it is just a bit of demagoguery on Delay's part (and most of the folks on here).

I do not argue that Obama's positions are advocating wealth redistribution. Over the years, depending on your bend, this goes by many names like 'populist', 'progressive', etc.

Yes, labels matter. I have no problem whatsoever with arguing against what Obama is proposing. I do take issue with blithely using terms like "old school Marxist radical liberal" and agreeing "absolutely" to that as Delay does. The irony is that Christianity, which these hypocrites wear on their sleaves so proudly, professes much of the things they label as radical and liberal.

So, I guess you can count me out as one of the sheep.

MIguy,

You’ve got to be kidding. Really. You imply that Delay’s labeling Obama a Marxist indicates that Delay (or anyone else for that matter) doesn’t have a clue what Marxism is? Where exactly do you think that someone such as Obama who openly advocates policies of broadening forced wealth redistribution and government intrusion on private business falls on the political spectrum? This discussion should not really be about whether Obama is a Marxist – his positions already define him as such. You can call him a “progressive” if that is more palatable to you, but he is what he is in this sense. Given that as a starting point we can fairly discuss his overall pro’s & con’s as a candidate and president. Or even debate the merits of Marxism itself. But to deny that Obama holds an overarching political philosophy that can be rightly cast as Marxist is just ubsurd. I really don’t understand the defensive reaction here from Obama supporters – other than maybe the fear of the stigma attached to the term “Marxism”. But, Marx wasn’t Stalin or Mao. He was a political theorist. It isn’t an attack on Obama to call him a Marxist any more that it would be to call Pat Buchanan an conservative isolationist for example.

It was painful, but I actually read every comment posted here. I counted maybe a handful of posters who sound like they've ever read Marx or even have a clue what Marxism is. Tom Delay clearly doesn't have a clue.

Marx was wrong about capitalism; he felt it was a system incapable of change. In the era he lived, and at its purest, capitalism fueled pollution, child labor and a whole host of societal ills (check out China). What saved capitalism as we practice it is a redistribution of wealth from the rich to maintain a standard of living among the poor enough that they don't revolt. America is fairly unique in its upward mobility as well (the American Dream is a very real prospect for most). Senators Obama and McCain are direct beneficiaries of that dream.

There are many who throw around these labels who don't know what they mean. Much like six year olds who hear and repeat swear words, but don't understand the meaning. We live in the greatest country in the world and these types of attacks demean us all.

Will -

So is Bho, taking money, and giving money for votes, didn't he?

Tom Delay is a crooked politician. He took money for votes. His analysis of Obama's "marxism" is the analysis of economic theory of a crooked bug exterminator who went into crooked politics to make more money.

Delay does not boneheadly know what he is talking about? What is Marxist? Bho is a socialist! What? Are they the same? Delay was right? Cannot be. He is a loser republican. What the world does he know!

Obama couldn't pass an FBI background check with his crazy associations with Wright, Farakkhan, Rezko.

"Makes one wonder how DeLay ever made it to House Majority Leader. But then again, this is the party that produced the worst, most incompetent president in modern history."

Carter was a Republican???

Well, they can try to demonize and legitimize (in the Hardball invited right wing pundit guest sense who didn't even understand the meaning of appeasement) the cultural oddity that the right thinks Obama represents...

Or you can deal with the fact that the philosophical message Republicans came to town with have left most Americans poorer and more hard pressed. You guys screwed up, what is your plan to fix your ideological problems?

Jake, why are you listening to DeLay...don't you know he stepped so far into influence peddling that he broke the law? It is like going to Ferraro so she can teach the racial sensitivity trainings started with symbolic figures. DeLay should talk and highlight what Republicans bringing change to Washington REALLY MEANS especially when you've been in power for 14 years.

If they had investigated Barack Obama
thoroughly, they would find he and Tom Delay have a lot in common. Remember, the investigation is still going on with the Chicago Political Machine. It ain't over yet.

Do I really need to name the positions that would brand Obama a Marxist? Apparently so…

Broader and more progressive taxation for the purpose of forced redistribution of wealth in quest for equality (universal healthcare to name just one program)
Further regulation on companies
Restrictions on free-trade
Price controls (on oil, pharmaceuticals)
Capping CEO salaries
Demonization of “Big Business” (or as Marx would say “the owners of capital”)
… on behalf of “hard working Americans” (or as Marx would say “big business”)

I could link to his website for policy statements but liberals would get distracted by all of the pretty pictures…

Tapper said:

“Is this rhetoric evidence that Republicans have concluded the only way they can win in what looks to be a Democratic year is to say anything, everything, demonize Obama in the most non-factual and unsavory of ways?”

This because Obama was labeled a Marxist?

That makes me wonder if he has no idea what Marxism is, if he is unfamiliar with Obama’s policy position & voting record, is unacquainted with the pillars of the liberation theology on which his (now former) church is founded, or all of the above. Or maybe like so many others he is just so enthralled which the phenomenon that is Obama, that even if aware of these realities he would brush them off or deny them in the face of the facts.

This was not an attack on Obama’s character. In fact it was not an attack as all. It was an assessment of where Obama falls on the political spectrum; based on his policy positions, voting record, and (soaring) rhetoric. It would be no different if Ron Paul had been called a libertarian. Some people reject libertarian values and some reject Marxist values. In this context neither label is meant an in epithet but a descriptor. And in the cases of Obama and Paul for example, the labels of Marxist and libertarian respectively fit almost to a tee. Again this is done by juxtaposing the voting records, policy positions and rhetoric of each of these men with the ideals of the respective governing philosophies.

I can’t disagree that this might have come from the “evil Republican attack machine”. But let’s be intellectually honest here. Obama’s voting record, policy positions, and rhetoric which a manifestation of an underlying political philosophy that is correctly defined as a Marxism.

We have 2 Obamas.
#1: Obama with teleprompter
#2: Obama without teleprompter

Well Certainly obama's friends show a different Obama. and also if you read his first book and you will see a little pro-marxist, Africa first, mentality!

Obama has shown time and time again that he does not have the intellectual capacity for high office YET!

He constantly has to corrects himself and he can NOT articulate any foreign policy or even economy without TELPROMPTER!!

That's what I like to see him more in the interview and townhall meeting.

Can you hear it???

I think in the end his opportunist side will win out. It pays a lot better than Marxism.

It worked well for Obama's campaign to demonize Hillary...she had already been weakened by years of the same from Republicans.

Perhaps McCains campaign can start feeding the memos to the press while he pretends he disagrees....

If you take the Farrakan influence seriously you get a little bit of Islam.

If you take the Marxism that Obama claims to have been drawn to in college you get a lot of the Marxism that is in his rhetoric.

The Capitalism appears to be more in his public relations and marketing

Actually I don't hear much democracy at all in Obama's rhetoric. We have been experiencing the "selling of a candidate" with the cooperation of the media.

By the way how is the Federal Government going to get an "army of teachers" to improve education?....and why doesn't Obama mention bundling when he says that special interests are not involved in his campaign?

Mix Marxism with racism...add in the most violent elements of the 60's radical student organizations....shake with the anti Israel sentiments of Farrakan and Wright....it may be "politics as usual" but don't discount the background of any man wanting to be President...

No one knows what he really is, that's the problem.
He seems more like a liberal left wing sided because that's where he gets his support from inside the Party.
His affiliation with Rev. Wright, Ayer would confirm me in this assertion.
But his relationship with Rezko would tell me that he is an opportunist.
So what to make of him?

"...that history should be seen purely through the lends of class struggle, or that religion is the opiate of the people..."

Doesn't that sound a little like people clinging to their Bible?

Perhaps if Republicans weren't so set on using "Liberal" as a dirty word it would become apparent that Obama is indeed a "Marxist"

Most of us played around with radical politics in our 20's but the angry activism and the Farrakan and Black Liberation Theology that Obama embraces is indeed Marxist.

Isn't Tom DeLay facing criminal charges?

If he's a true Marxist, then at least he's not a racist like his pastors.

OBAMA IS A MARXIST.

Father Pflager who Obama was close to for 20 years went after whites for their 401 funds.

Pflager was a moral compass in Obama's life.

Pflager was on committees even after he invited farakkan to his church and praised him.

This is who Obama brought to Iowa to campaign by his side.

This is who Obama consulted with after Wright went off at the national press club.

Obama has called for raising capital gains taxes.

Sounds like Father Pflager.

OBAMA IS A MARXIST.

IN HIS BITTER REMARKS HE ALSO SAID PEOPLE IN SMALL TOWNS HAVE APATHY FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T LOOK LIKE THEM. HE ALSO CALLED THEM ANTI IMMIGRANT WHEN THEY ARE PRO IMMIGRANT AND ANTI ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.

HE SAID PEOPLE IN SMALL TOWNS THAT DON'T VOTE FOR HIMSELF ARE APATHETIC TO OBAMA BECAUSE HE DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THEM.

OBAMA DEFINES MARXISM.

REZKO, WRIGHT, FATHER PFLAGER.

OBAMA IS A MARXIST.

OBAMA BLAMED LOU DOBSS FOR DOUBLING OF HATE CRIMES AGAINST HISPANICS IN AMERICA.

DOBBS IS AGAINST ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION NOT IMMIGRATION.

FIRST OF ALL HATE CRIMES HAVE NO DOUBLED AGAINST HISPANICS. THAT WAS A LIE.

ANOTHER MARXIST POSITION BY OBAMANATION.

Obama's a Marxist...and I'm the Queen of Sheba.

Trust me on that.

OBAMA IS A MARXIST HE CALLS THE DC GUN BAN CONSTITUTIONAL.

HIS UNDERSTANDING OF THE CONSTITUTION IS MARXIST LIKE.

LAST NOVEMBER HE CALLED THE DC GUN BAN CONSTITUTIONAL THEN IN THE DEBATE IN APRIL IN PENNSYLVANIA OBAMA LIED SAYING HE HADN'T SEEN THE SPECIFICS.

OBAMA IS 100 PERCENT MARXIST.

Obama is a Marxist.

Who else has 20 year close relationships with father Pfleger, Rezko, and Wright.

Pflager is a vicious anti semite who invited farakkan to his church last july and praised him.

So what does Obama do he puts him on his campaign and invites him to Iowa this past fall.

Obama puts him on committees.

Obama has a 20 year relationship with another anti semite in Wright.

Obama has a 20 year relationship with Rezko. He bought land from Rezko even when Rezko was under investigation.

OBAMA IS A 100 PERCENT MARXIST.

HEre we go....more of this dribble to come from repubs. It's all crap, but they are unfortunately arguments that stick.

OBAMA SUPPROTED FATHER PFLAGER EVEN AFTER HE INVITED FARRAKKAN TO HIS CHURCH. FATHER PFLAGER PRAISED FARAKKAN AND WHAT DID OBAMA DO.

OBAMA INVITED PFLAGER TO BE ON HIS CAMPAIGN AND CAMPAIGN FOR HIM IN IOWA.

OBAMA 20 YEAR RELATIONSHIP WITH WRIGHT, PFLAGER AND REZKO.

Mr. Coffee,

It's plain to see that Obama's (former) church "is not a church that rejects people of other cultures and races". This was evidenced by the video of the white Catholic priest being cheered while speaking there. It apparent that regardless of your race or culture, you are welcome at a church espousing liberation theology, as long as you believe in Marxist ideals (as you admit), and that you believe that America on the whole a vile racist cesspool. Tow that line and you can come to service & stay for the cookout.

I believe all liberation theology was inspired by Marxist thought. However, that doesn't mean that there isn't some reason in it.

By the way, Obama's old church has a good side to it:

People familiar with the church compare its emphasis on African culture to the way some Catholic churches play up Irish or Italian roots. People who know about the church reject the accusations that the church is separatist or turns away white members.

An actual member who is white tells the story of a group of young Germans visiting the church. Wright met with them before the service and prayed with them in German, she said. Later, he delivered part of his sermon in German and the choir sang in German.

“To me, it’s a testimony that this is not a church that rejects people of other cultures and races,” she said.

Well I imagine that if you had lived as a black person in this world from the 1800's on up - you might well feel differently about the remarks that Obama quoted his father as saying. And while I am certainly not calling anybody a racist - I understand growing up in the south what the term "strange fruit" means as it applies to the black men and women that were hung in trees down here because of racist whites. I totally agree that in the past black's were treated as less than human and that many white people today are still freeful of them and secretly do not like them. We are the products of our parents & their enviroments -

Big people talk about ideas - little people talk about other people- probably because they aren't smart enough to think of anything worth anything....as for Delay- who cares what a crook thinks

A certain number of you are smart political operatives. You see this as a game and in the sense it is about communication, it is even if the stakes make it dangerous to consider in that light.

Still, for those who want to understand the HOW of Obama's win, here is a link to a set of slides that describe what you need to understand:

Don't look for a golden formula. Do understand what a scaling network is all about, how to build 'em, and how to tear them down.

AP: McCain Now Supports Bush's Program To Spy On Americans.

That's worse than marxism. That's Stalinism.

America the home of the free?

Yes, but not with John McCain in charge.

Wow, this is just plain dumb. The GOP can get away with the charge that Democrats are 'socialist' because socialism is such a losely defined word. But Marxism is different. Marx defined his political views fairly well. If they think this is a charge that will stick, they need to get some brains.

Fired Up!! The Democrats who have controlled both Houses of Congress for nearly 18 months have done NOTHING to help. In fact, by blocking President Bush's agenda at nearly every turn, they have hendered his ability to alleviate the downturn in the economy. Yet you want four more years of the Democrats in control of Congress AND give them the White House!

Democrats in control since 2006.

Jobs still being lost.
Gas prices have doubled.
Foreclosures have tripled in 6 months.

Can we elect a Democrat as President so we can keep this mess going?

Obama sounds like Carter in foreign and domestic policy.

Obama wants to serve Carter's second term.

The "green jobs" will consist of scraping the mold off of the bread, that we will all be standing in line for, comrade.

Oil prices destroying our economy. Stock Market plunging. People losing jobs. Record foreclosures. Endless War. Torturing prisoners. Record Defecits.

Solution, Let's elect an elderly who cannot read a teleprompter who wants to continue the same policies that created the above messes.

Marie-

Looks like someone is using my name here.

I know that Obama is not a Muslim. I've read both books. But if he were, so what? We have a first ammendment that permits it. We seem to agree here

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As a former Marine, I love my country. My father fought to defend this country in 1943....I fought for my country in the 80's and my son is fighting for it now. I have no faith in a man that has spent 20 years in a church that cheers on racism or humiliation of another human being. He only discredited and demounced his church and spiritual ass when he came into the spot light. After 20 years of this type of gathering of people..I believe that one will instill the beliefs that was day after day preached.
As a reminder..to all... lets not forget another country that wanted a change.. Their pride was damaged...Their, economy was in need of help...so a man who captivated them with his words of hope...words that rang with this great change in destiny..
He did bring a great change to his country...and to the world...still today the effects are upon us....millions were killed..starved, burned, gased, and shot. It only took a World War to stop his change. But he was a captivating speaker of hope and change..
Lets not sit here and pretend that Obama is this man of honor. To many red flags are flying... and I only serve one flag...and its not all red either.
I have to admit..he does get me riled and motivated when he speaks...he is a great speaker..he tells us what we all want to hear...we are unhappy with Bush..we are un happy with the economy...we are unhappy that our fellow sodiers are being killed...so we want a change...and he can motivate us in believing him...but look people before you leap....He is not the quick fix.... I fear the change he would bring to our country if elected...I believe that the change he brings is not the change we expected....
Obama....is not our savor..but a wolf in sheeps clothing...

DELAY'S ASSERTION IS SO STUPID, I SHAN'T EVEN BOTHER TO REFUTE IT.

ITS STUPIDITY SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.

"Obama's economic solution: Creat 5 million "green jobs" so the unemployed can install solar panels on the roofs of all the foreclosed homes that nobody can buy since they are jobless."
That's pretty damm funny!

Sen Obama supports wealth re-distribution; doing away with our "ownership society" (that's right, that's what he said); giving the federal government more control over our lives and lifestyles; and decimating the free market with government interference.

That certainly is Marxist and verging on Communistic.

If the Dem party does not put Hillary in as VP, McCain gets my vote. 16 years of control up for grabs. what do you think??

I don't think too good, although I know a Marxist when I see one.

McCain is weak on the economy. Is a flip flopper who is owned by the lobbyists dating all the way back to the Keating 5. Go Obama!

Listen I am sorry for all of my erroneous, inflammatory, moronic posts. I will vote for Obama!

I think he said that Obama is a Marxist, not the whole party.

In order for Republicans to appear “moderate” they continue to claim how Democrats are “Marxist”, “Communist” and “Socialist”. In reality, the Republican party continues to move further and further towards the right, widening the divide between “true” elites and average Americans while Democrat remain (Republicans will LOVE this) pretty moderate. This began in the 1970s and escalated under Reagan’s massive deregulation of business and tax breaks to the wealthy. It continues today. Republicans accumulated that wealth and launched expensive (and effective) propaganda campaigns to paint those who disagreed as “leftist radicals” in an effort to reverse FDR’s new deal that handed power and wealth to the average American after WWII, which created the middle class. The gap between rich and middle class was greatly reduced in the 1950-60s. The New Deal even reduced the impact of poverty through social safety nets. More than anything the New Deal gave the middle class power. The middle class became a powerful economic and political voice. The Republicans have been working to silence this voice for decades. The gap has widened to that equal to and beyond the 1920s. The middle class is shrinking, and they are not slipping into the top economic category, they are slipping into poverty. The top 1% of the economic latter have increased there compensation more in the last twenty years than ever before, and they are being given tax breaks to boot. Middle-class income has actually decline in the last thirty years and it now takes two wage earners to support a family where it used to take one. What was that Tickle down theory they preached? They knew it was a smoke screen.

Republicans like Delay can say what ever they like. They lie. They have distracted us with wars, the “sanctity” of marriage, illegal immigration, segregation, business scandals, bank crises, oil gouging and stained dresses while they’ve reach into our pockets and robbed us blind. Delay is a fascist tyrant. He has some set to criticize Obama.

You should be scared of a Marxist. Didn't work out so well for Russia and Cuba.

I am at the center politically and Obama has scared me straight over to the right.

I was at the center politically.

However, everytime the Repubs opened their mouths they pushed me to the left.

Really!!! All this fearmongering.

REPUBS: A PARTY BANKRUPT OF IDEAS.

Oooooooo, a Marxist! I'm scared!

I better vote for McCain - NOT!

Obama '08/'12

Why do Obama supporters focus on Obama's weaknesses, such as his principles and judgement? If you tell a lie enough you start to believe it?

Well it is true, about obama and the marxism, i don't think he would deny that. and his mom was a marxist.
obam says there is no i in team
and in the foodstamp,welfare and soup line you only get a number.

i am going to watch REDS tonight, and also watch cinderella man, just to get in the mood for what is to come.

If Obama becomes president, the rich will hide their money so the middle class will have to foot the bill for all of his social welfare progams..as usual. Where's the change?

Take that Repubs (excluding Obamacans)!!! The Dem Family is rallying around its own.

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MORE FROM THE EMILY'S LIST ENDORSEMENT (BOSTON.COM)

"Another of Hillary Clinton's most vocal supporters has fallen in line behind Barack Obama, on the eve of her formal endorsement of the presumptive Democratic nominee.

Adding her voice is Ellen R. Malcolm, president of EMILY's List, a political action committee that funds female candidates who support abortion rights. She was withering in her criticism of NARAL's national PAC when it endorsed Obama last month despite a long history with Clinton.

But in a statement issued today, Malcolm is far more conciliatory in pledging her group's support to Obama."

DEMS HEAL AND UNITE!!! PRINCIPLES FIRST!!!!

ooooooh! I'm scared.

Just sent off another $100 to Barack.

Any breaking news on the Hamas endorsement?

I agree with Delay.

Obama people say to Hillary supporters, vote for Obama, his positions are 95% the same as Hillary.

Not true. He has not done enough for us to know his positions, has he? We know only about the very few votes he has cast.

I believe he is radically different from Hillary. He is far to the left. Perhaps he is a socialist. Look at his long time friends -- Ayres, Pfleger, Wright, Michelle. These are all hard core radicals. If he gets in the White House, a compliant Congress will allow him to do anything he wants. What does he want? What does he really want?

America should be afraid of this man.

MORE FROM THE EMILY'S LIST ENDORSEMENT (BOSTON.COM)

"Another of Hillary Clinton's most vocal supporters has fallen in line behind Barack Obama, on the eve of her formal endorsement of the presumptive Democratic nominee.

Adding her voice is Ellen R. Malcolm, president of EMILY's List, a political action committee that funds female candidates who support abortion rights. She was withering in her criticism of NARAL's national PAC when it endorsed Obama last month despite a long history with Clinton.

But in a statement issued today, Malcolm is far more conciliatory in pledging her group's support to Obama."

DEMS HEAL AND UNITE!!! PRINCIPLES FIRST!!!!

STOP PRESS: EMILY'S LIST HAS JUST ENDORSED OBAMA!!!!!!!!!

"I know that EMILY’s List members, like all Democrats, will be unified in our determination to undo the damage created by George W. Bush and the Republicans. I am confident that our party will come together to take the White House in November. And, once again, EMILY’s List will unleash the political power of women to help Democrats win at every level in 2008 so we can begin to rebuild a progressive America."

SLOWLY BUT SURELY DEMS ARE HEALING AND UNITING...

"Wow...NBC Breaking News alert". They're still on the air? That station will destroy your brain cells. All they have is news about Obama and programs about prisons.

Maybe that's another one of Obama's dirty little secrets...he's a Marxist.

If he's not a Marxist, then what are you all so afraid of?

Black Liberation Theology is based on Marxism.

Is this all they can do? AT THIS RATE THE REPUBS WILL BE WIPED OUT.

Wow...NBC Breaking News alert....Stock Market crashing...Oil up to record 140 bbl, unemployment up. Bush and McCain respond with...Make those tax cuts for wealthy Americans that have caused this collapse, to be permanent. No wonder our country is in such bad shape.

Hahaha. Are there still people out there who take these Rep clowns serious?

"unless he proves me wrong".... LOL

Unless he proves me wrong, Mc Cain already died some years ago. It was a zombie who gave the New Orleans speech on Obama's nomination night.

Unless he proves me wrong, Tom Delay's head is filled with peanut butter.

Tom DeLay is a disgrace. But he's right; Obama is a Marxist just like his mother.

Our government/society has approached everything in recent years like it is an economic exchange--not a socio-economic one.

Solutions that make sense in terms of pure economics are not good for societies in nations with borders.

I might argue that classic Marxism is being fueled and will surge again due to Republican policies that favor transfer of capital/jobs to places like China.

We are in the process of recreating in the USA a two-tier society composed of relatively rich upper income people and lower income people who work at Walmart and low income manufacturing jobs.

In the name of good investment, we encourage job transfer to low income places gutting our society. I don't like bloated unions but this will get uglier without an improvement-not replacement in government.

The Republican view now is to use government to enforce laws. On the economic side, Republicans use government to enforce economic advantage. One example is using regulation to limit competition--all of you investors out there know that when looking at a company to invest in you see how they can control a segment of the market and that is usually through regulation. Get laws that benefit a few paid for by the many.

What I would like to see is government work on a clearly defined socio-economic programs to help the very young and very old. This plays on the Democrats using government to provide a better life/society. Very limited tax breaks to business unless they support a very significant social goal--environmental laws, health codes, handicapped hiring and efficient energy independence are some examples.

I believe in the power of economics to make $ transactions efficient but if you plan to have a civil society that our parents and grandparents created in the last century where people can live the "american dream", then we need to stop the erosion of support systems.

It is nice to see Delay and other Republicans talk about simple solutions but unfortunately many are simple because they are stupid.

No one needs defending from Delay's accusations. He has no credibility left.

These are Obama's own words from his book "Dreams of my Father"

“I FOUND A SOLACE IN NURSING A PERVASIVE SENSE OF GRIEVANCE AND ANIMOSITY AGAINST MY MOTHER’S RACE”.

“I CEASED TO ADVERTISE MY MOTHER'S RACE AT ABOUT 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites”

“NEVER EMULATE THE WHITE MAN and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. IT WAS INTO MY FATHER'S IMAGE, THE BLACK MAN, SON OF AFRICA, THAT I'D PACKED ALL THE ATTRIBUTES I SOUGHT IN MYSELF.."

“THAT HATE HADN'T GONE AWAY,” he wrote, blaming “WHITE PEOPLE- SOME CRUEL, SOME IGNORANT, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives.”

This is the TRUE Obama and HIS True feelings about white people and all others who are not Black.
Obama's HATE for whites (His Words} "Hadn't Gone Away" and never will. This man is so filled with Hate and some people want to trust him in the White House!

This is 1 Huge Reason Why Hillary Supporters Will NEVER Support Obama!
McCain 2008