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DeLay: Obama's a Marxist
June 06, 2008 2:17 PM
On the conservative Mike Gallagher radio show yesterday, former House Majority Tom DeLay, R-Texas, said "if McCain does not define him as what he is — hey, I have said publicly, and I will again, that unless he proves me wrong, he is a Marxist."
Gallagher said Obama is "desperately trying to cover up what seems to be the kind of old school Marxist radical liberal failed ideology."
"Absolutely," said DeLay, who is currently facing charges of money-laundering.
"That's what he is," said Gallagher.
"No doubt about it," said DeLay.
Seems a rather questionable charge. And you gotta love that disproving-a-negative construct. Unless Mr. X can prove me wrong he IS so-and-so. As in: Unless Mr. X can prove me wrong, he doesn't know what "Marxist" actually means.
While Obama is certainly a fairly orthodox liberal, I've seen zero evidence that he is anti-capitalist, that he believes the people own only their capacity to work, that he believes the proletariat are exploited by the owners of capital, that history should be seen purely through the lends of class struggle, or that religion is the opiate of the people ("Die Religion ... ist das Opium des Volkes.")
In fact, I've seen evidence to the contrary of every one of these Marxist ideologies.
Or…am I making a mistake by actually taking the charge seriously and trying to examine it?
Is this rhetoric evidence that Republicans have concluded the only way they can win in what looks to be a Democratic year is to say anything, everything, demonize Obama in the most non-factual and unsavory of ways?
- jpt
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If you take the Farrakan influence seriously you get a little bit of Islam.
If you take the Marxism that Obama claims to have been drawn to in college you get a lot of the Marxism that is in his rhetoric.
The Capitalism appears to be more in his public relations and marketing
Actually I don't hear much democracy at all in Obama's rhetoric. We have been experiencing the "selling of a candidate" with the cooperation of the media.
By the way how is the Federal Government going to get an "army of teachers" to improve education?....and why doesn't Obama mention bundling when he says that special interests are not involved in his campaign?
Mix Marxism with racism...add in the most violent elements of the 60's radical student organizations....shake with the anti Israel sentiments of Farrakan and Wright....it may be "politics as usual" but don't discount the background of any man wanting to be President...
Posted by: Jackie | Jun 6, 2008 6:42:28 PM
No one knows what he really is, that's the problem.
He seems more like a liberal left wing sided because that's where he gets his support from inside the Party.
His affiliation with Rev. Wright, Ayer would confirm me in this assertion.
But his relationship with Rezko would tell me that he is an opportunist.
So what to make of him?
Posted by: jane | Jun 6, 2008 6:39:08 PM
"...that history should be seen purely through the lends of class struggle, or that religion is the opiate of the people..."
Doesn't that sound a little like people clinging to their Bible?
Posted by: Jackie | Jun 6, 2008 6:29:45 PM
Perhaps if Republicans weren't so set on using "Liberal" as a dirty word it would become apparent that Obama is indeed a "Marxist"
Most of us played around with radical politics in our 20's but the angry activism and the Farrakan and Black Liberation Theology that Obama embraces is indeed Marxist.
Posted by: Jackie | Jun 6, 2008 6:28:14 PM
Isn't Tom DeLay facing criminal charges?
Posted by: cindy | Jun 6, 2008 6:18:58 PM
If he's a true Marxist, then at least he's not a racist like his pastors.
Posted by: Mack | Jun 6, 2008 6:16:11 PM
OBAMA IS A MARXIST.
Father Pflager who Obama was close to for 20 years went after whites for their 401 funds.
Pflager was a moral compass in Obama's life.
Pflager was on committees even after he invited farakkan to his church and praised him.
This is who Obama brought to Iowa to campaign by his side.
This is who Obama consulted with after Wright went off at the national press club.
Obama has called for raising capital gains taxes.
Sounds like Father Pflager.
Posted by: david | Jun 6, 2008 6:08:38 PM
OBAMA IS A MARXIST.
IN HIS BITTER REMARKS HE ALSO SAID PEOPLE IN SMALL TOWNS HAVE APATHY FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T LOOK LIKE THEM. HE ALSO CALLED THEM ANTI IMMIGRANT WHEN THEY ARE PRO IMMIGRANT AND ANTI ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.
HE SAID PEOPLE IN SMALL TOWNS THAT DON'T VOTE FOR HIMSELF ARE APATHETIC TO OBAMA BECAUSE HE DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THEM.
OBAMA DEFINES MARXISM.
REZKO, WRIGHT, FATHER PFLAGER.
Posted by: david | Jun 6, 2008 6:05:01 PM
OBAMA IS A MARXIST.
OBAMA BLAMED LOU DOBSS FOR DOUBLING OF HATE CRIMES AGAINST HISPANICS IN AMERICA.
DOBBS IS AGAINST ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION NOT IMMIGRATION.
FIRST OF ALL HATE CRIMES HAVE NO DOUBLED AGAINST HISPANICS. THAT WAS A LIE.
ANOTHER MARXIST POSITION BY OBAMANATION.
Posted by: david | Jun 6, 2008 6:02:06 PM
Obama's a Marxist...and I'm the Queen of Sheba.
Trust me on that.
Posted by: Tom J | Jun 6, 2008 5:57:08 PM
OBAMA IS A MARXIST HE CALLS THE DC GUN BAN CONSTITUTIONAL.
HIS UNDERSTANDING OF THE CONSTITUTION IS MARXIST LIKE.
LAST NOVEMBER HE CALLED THE DC GUN BAN CONSTITUTIONAL THEN IN THE DEBATE IN APRIL IN PENNSYLVANIA OBAMA LIED SAYING HE HADN'T SEEN THE SPECIFICS.
OBAMA IS 100 PERCENT MARXIST.
Posted by: david | Jun 6, 2008 5:54:39 PM
Obama is a Marxist.
Who else has 20 year close relationships with father Pfleger, Rezko, and Wright.
Pflager is a vicious anti semite who invited farakkan to his church last july and praised him.
So what does Obama do he puts him on his campaign and invites him to Iowa this past fall.
Obama puts him on committees.
Obama has a 20 year relationship with another anti semite in Wright.
Obama has a 20 year relationship with Rezko. He bought land from Rezko even when Rezko was under investigation.
OBAMA IS A 100 PERCENT MARXIST.
Posted by: david | Jun 6, 2008 5:47:31 PM
HEre we go....more of this dribble to come from repubs. It's all crap, but they are unfortunately arguments that stick.
Posted by: Amazed | Jun 6, 2008 5:47:18 PM
OBAMA SUPPROTED FATHER PFLAGER EVEN AFTER HE INVITED FARRAKKAN TO HIS CHURCH. FATHER PFLAGER PRAISED FARAKKAN AND WHAT DID OBAMA DO.
OBAMA INVITED PFLAGER TO BE ON HIS CAMPAIGN AND CAMPAIGN FOR HIM IN IOWA.
OBAMA 20 YEAR RELATIONSHIP WITH WRIGHT, PFLAGER AND REZKO.
Posted by: david | Jun 6, 2008 5:42:31 PM
Mr. Coffee,
It's plain to see that Obama's (former) church "is not a church that rejects people of other cultures and races". This was evidenced by the video of the white Catholic priest being cheered while speaking there. It apparent that regardless of your race or culture, you are welcome at a church espousing liberation theology, as long as you believe in Marxist ideals (as you admit), and that you believe that America on the whole a vile racist cesspool. Tow that line and you can come to service & stay for the cookout.
Posted by: NB | Jun 6, 2008 5:41:18 PM
I believe all liberation theology was inspired by Marxist thought. However, that doesn't mean that there isn't some reason in it.
By the way, Obama's old church has a good side to it:
People familiar with the church compare its emphasis on African culture to the way some Catholic churches play up Irish or Italian roots. People who know about the church reject the accusations that the church is separatist or turns away white members.
An actual member who is white tells the story of a group of young Germans visiting the church. Wright met with them before the service and prayed with them in German, she said. Later, he delivered part of his sermon in German and the choir sang in German.
“To me, it’s a testimony that this is not a church that rejects people of other cultures and races,” she said.
Posted by: Mr. Coffee | Jun 6, 2008 5:32:02 PM
Well I imagine that if you had lived as a black person in this world from the 1800's on up - you might well feel differently about the remarks that Obama quoted his father as saying. And while I am certainly not calling anybody a racist - I understand growing up in the south what the term "strange fruit" means as it applies to the black men and women that were hung in trees down here because of racist whites. I totally agree that in the past black's were treated as less than human and that many white people today are still freeful of them and secretly do not like them. We are the products of our parents & their enviroments -
Big people talk about ideas - little people talk about other people- probably because they aren't smart enough to think of anything worth anything....as for Delay- who cares what a crook thinks
Posted by: jozy | Jun 6, 2008 5:14:56 PM
A certain number of you are smart political operatives. You see this as a game and in the sense it is about communication, it is even if the stakes make it dangerous to consider in that light.
Still, for those who want to understand the HOW of Obama's win, here is a link to a set of slides that describe what you need to understand:
Don't look for a golden formula. Do understand what a scaling network is all about, how to build 'em, and how to tear them down.
Posted by: len | Jun 6, 2008 5:06:08 PM
AP: McCain Now Supports Bush's Program To Spy On Americans.
That's worse than marxism. That's Stalinism.
America the home of the free?
Yes, but not with John McCain in charge.
Posted by: gringo | Jun 6, 2008 5:00:19 PM
Wow, this is just plain dumb. The GOP can get away with the charge that Democrats are 'socialist' because socialism is such a losely defined word. But Marxism is different. Marx defined his political views fairly well. If they think this is a charge that will stick, they need to get some brains.
Posted by: markymark | Jun 6, 2008 4:58:49 PM
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