Political Punch

Father Pfleger is still at it, he's preaching politics from the puplit in violation of the IRS code, when is the bishop going to really crack down? As a Catholic priest, he's a disator.

This guy is obviously trying to endear himself to the congregation that lost Wright.

It's strange that with all of the years of experience in government that Hillary Clinton has had, including eight years in the White House, she is running neck and neck with this "inexperienced, unknown" person. She should be running away with the nomination which shows that half of the people do not want her. Her husband should just be satisfied with 8 years in the White House as other 2 term Presidents have had to come to grips with. If Obama wins, they will probably leave the country. Good riddance.

I am so tired of these ministers playing politics and feeding on hate. As a Catholic, I find it appalling. I attend a traditional Latin mass each week (along with people of various nationalities and races - a very diverse church) and our priest has never mentioned a politician by name. Each election season, however, he guides worshippers into making a voting decision they can live with - based on faith and facts. Without saying whether to vote Republican or Democrat, he urges people to examine their faith and the facts, for example, a true Catholic or Christian can not support a pro-abortion candidate without violating the basis of their faith (while that issue may not be important to some, it is important to many), and to take a similar approach with other issues. This method teaches congregates to take matters into their own hands, educate themselves and make rationale decisions, which is how it should be. Ministers should not instruct people as to who they should vote for and should certainly not make fun of the other candidates. What is our society coming to where this kind of behavior is becoming acceptable??

How come no one knew about all the priests raping alter boys in their churches and parishes? Didn't THEY know what was going on in their congregations.

PRESIDENT Thomas Jefferson was a rapist and sired eight black children to prove with his SLAVE Sally Hemmings but I don't see anyone taking his face off the dollar. What a bunch of hypocrites!

My pastor at a nondenomination evangelical church here in Lone Tree, Colorado eschews politics in his message. All he has ever said about the subject is that politics is not a religion, Jesus is your God and Heaven accepts all - Democrats, Republicans, Socialists, Libertarians - along as they accept that Jesus is the son of God who died for us so that we might have eternal life.

My pastor at a nondenomination evangelical church here in Lone Tree, Colorado eschews politics in his message. All he has ever said about the subject is that politics is not a religion, Jesus is your God and Heaven accepts all - Democrats, Republicans, Socialists, Libertarians - along as they accept that Jesus is the son of God who died for us so that we might have eternal life.

I must go to a really boring church, we talk about like Jesus and stuff, during the homily usually we try to explain a parable to the kids, we like never dump on other people. I wish I could go to a really cool church where we can dis people.

You are what you eat, and Obama has been setting down at the dinner table for years eating all this garbage with his friend's. i think these jerks actually think they are helping him. it just amazes me what ignorant people they are to get up on national television and carry on like they do. they are some of the well educated supporter's of Barack Obama's evidently..

Wow, you can predict the future. What magic powers you possess. I notice you had nothing to say about the right's long standing associations with hate-filled preachers. I guess your high standards about guilt by association only apply to the left.

There will be no Obama presidency.

No problem about the double posting, West Texas. Your fulminations about guilt because of the company one keeps goes double for McCains' association with the criminal Bush cabal, not to mention the GOPs decades long love affair with the hate-driven Religious Right. Maybe an Obama presidency will have the right rethinking this whole separation of Church and State thing.

Senator Obama is still doing his politicial pandering trying to win this election with any means possible. Leaving his church was just another feeble attempt at fooling some people. He will say or do anything to win this election, even buy off the superdelegates with the promise of helping them financiallly in their next election. He is just the most sleazy, corrupt politician still walking the streets and not in jail.

New comment from last Sunday: Fleger says: "America is the greatest sin to God."

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Black liberation theology: All white people are the oppressors and need to be defeated by any means necessary; America is evil, US govt is evil, capitalism is evil, and the middle class are the enemy. Any God that loves white people should be killed. Israel is to be hated because Jews are really not the "chosen people"--blacks are. The USA is the greatest evil and terrorist state of all. Israel must be gone. Palestine must win. The UK only means imperialism and so does the USA.

--The USA should be "destroyed"--Malcolm X.
--"America needs to be burned down."--Farrakhan
--"GD America. US of KKK of A"--Pastor Wright
--"America is the greatest sin against God"-Pfleger
--"America is downright mean."--Michelle Obama

There is obviously a PATTERN of HATE for the USA and Barack Obama should not be anywhere CLOSE to the White House!!!

You throw in Bill Ayers who declared war on America via bombings and terror....

WHY is this being allowed to happen?

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BTW, Rashid Khalidi / Obama connection was on Hannity's America last night. Khalidi hates Israel and worked for the terrorist organization the Palestinian Liberation Organization and worked for the Palestinian press agency, and he and his wife were spokespeople for Arafat.

The list of those Obama has thrown under the bus, in order of occurence: His white grandmother; Jeremiah Wright; Wright's successor, Pfleger and the racist Trinity United Church that cheered his preacher as clown performance. WLS radio (89 AM) reported on Friday that there are reports of a tape with Michelle Obama using a racial epithet. Obama has thrown what he called "family" under the bus (see above). Rather than throwing Michelle under the bus, he should thrown himself out of the President race.

The more profound point about Osteen that was being made...which by the way I've heard many conservative evangelicals make as well...is that Osteen tends to preach a very self centered, feel good about yourself, type of Gospel, and tends to downplay the sacrifices of faith and service to others.

So sure Osteen is "cool"...but many serious Biblical scholars would say that he teaches a watered down version of the Gospel...kind of like the often mocked prosperity Gospel...which is that if you follow God, then you get everything you want.

That may be a nice message, but it is not reflected in Biblical scripture.

Boy, wading through all this Christian hate, make me wonder "What Would Jesus Say" to those who claim to be His child on Sun. and then spread all this hatred on this and other web sites the rest of the times. White preachers use to (some still do)use the bible to justify slavery, does that mean all white pastors are evil. If you went to some church who had a pastor who preached that whites should only be with white and black with black or asian with asian...ect, is the congregation full of racist or is it just the preacher? We all are sinners and not worthy to gather the crumbs under the Masters table, but thanks be to to His grace and mercy, we can love one another like He loves us and we can choose to let his love shine through us to those who don't know Him or count His way holy..
God don't really care who is elected president in these United States, He just want us to live our lives so that His love is reflected from us to the loss and they surender their al and all saying what must I do to be saved.

So tone down all this hate and allow God's love to become visable through your words and actions...

Preach a sermon everyday.....
Use words only if you have too...

Obama didn't disown his Church or Pastor Wright, he just resigned from the Church. All for political reasons and nothing else!

After 20 years Obama finally leaves the church....he stayed when they preached that AIDS was a government conspiracy....he stayed when America was denounced...he stayed when his opponent was slandered...he stayed when racism was taught...he stayed when the anti-Isreal fliers came out...he stayed when Farrakan was given awards...He stayed when hate was taught and spread

I guess he left for political expediancy...because I don't know anyone that would have sat in that church for 20 years if they didn't agree with the dogma. And the dogma is most certaqinly Black Liberation Theology. BLT is an extreme form of radical separatism that has it's roots in Farrakan's anti-Isreal and anti-White philosophy.