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Hillary Clinton Tonight

June 03, 2008 10:10 PM

Not only did Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, not concede tonight, she didn't even congratulate Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, for having secured the Democratic presidential nomination. Which he did at 9 pm ET, when five delegates from South Dakota pushed him over the top, giving him the 2,118 delegates the Democratic Party says is the magic number.

She said she wanted to "recognize" Obama and his supporters for all they have accomplished. She said Obama inspired Americans to care about politics, and empowered people to get involved -- but nothing about his rather historic accomplishment.*

She said she didn't want her supporters to be ignored or disrespected.

She continued to push her highly debatable  "popular vote" claim and declare that she's the strongest candidate.

The crowd chanted "Denver! Denver! Denver!"

"The question is where do we go from here?" she said. "This has been a long campaign and I will be making no decisions tonight."

I've never seen anything like this.

She invited supporters to go to her website and share their thoughts about what she should do next.

What would be your guidance?

- jpt

* I tweaked some of the language here.

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If Obama would have miss spoken on an event like having to dodge sniper fire ; the media would have ran him clean out of the race . Hillary said it and little was mention about it but Obama would have said that it would have been a blatant lie . Obama ex-pastor said what he said and the media ran it for weeks on end . Hillary got the better media coverage especially by Foxs News .

Posted by: justright | Jun 4, 2008 3:08:25 AM

Mark, how on earth would that happen?


Is she going to fund that effort with soil?

The lady is in debt!

Posted by: Paul | Jun 4, 2008 3:05:40 AM

Is it possible that Hillary is planning to run as a 3rd candidate, with the idea tha she can beat both candidates?

Posted by: Mark Treitel | Jun 4, 2008 2:57:08 AM

It has been good theatre, but they wanted to hand him the nomination much earlier, and she wanted to play the game, but the real game is the Party's. The Party is the boss.
It's like that.
Hillary, you did well. But that's politics. It's all about power. And your power of determination is not enough. The machine runs the world.
Your strategy was battleground and his is delegates grasp. He is the man of the Party. The party gives him all the delegates needed.
It's nice to dream a little bit, believing in human courage.
I am disappointed by the superdelegates who supported you. Why do they remain silent?
I always believe that time reveals lots of things. If you had stepped out much earlier like they wanted you to do, there would not be anything to say, but here they can't deny that you have drawn a lot of supporters.
Now till November time will work. And other things will speak for themselves.

Posted by: jane | Jun 4, 2008 2:51:04 AM

Becky your sort of arrogance and misplaced self-assurance are the reason Hillary lost the nomination.

Fortunately, Obama doesn't assume anything. He plots and outwits regardless...

Posted by: Ida | Jun 4, 2008 2:03:32 AM

18,000,000 that's 6 zeros! If Obama does not choose her for VP, more than half of us will stay home or vote for McCain. That's a fact, Jack! Without Hillary on the ticket he doesn't stand a snowballs chance.

Posted by: Becky | Jun 4, 2008 1:57:33 AM

i feel satisfied that hillary didn't concede tonight. being nice is being weak. obama is being nice is being weak. like carter was being nice but he was weak.

Posted by: hannah | Jun 4, 2008 1:56:55 AM

Hillary the race is over , it is time for the democratic party to come together . Hillary you ran a good race but now it is time for all democrats to come together to defeat McCain and his Bush polices . If your own the ticket or not you can help Obama make a change for the better for our economy and our nation .

Posted by: justright | Jun 4, 2008 1:43:02 AM

Hillary Clinton is POLITICAL EVIL. She does not even have the character or decency to acknowledge the history making nomination of an African-American. Incredible!

The woman does not have the character to be anywhere near the highest levels of government. Obama has made a mistake in kissing her behind for several weeks now. He shouldn't be surprised at what he got in return.

I am highly offended at her for this power-stunt. I cannot support an Obama/Clinton ticket.

Posted by: Patriot0259 | Jun 4, 2008 1:38:21 AM

What are the options of Hillary running as an independant candidate? She might be able to pull an upset win as an independant. I think she should seriously consider it. It almost looked like whole democratic establishment is ga-ga over Obama and forgot a very important fact that women got the right to vote and part in political process later than African-American men. Clinton or not, she is a woman and it might be very long time before a stong female candidate emerges on the political landscape.

Posted by: Kris Bandaru | Jun 4, 2008 1:24:44 AM

What are the options of Hillary running as an independant candidate? She might be able to pull an upset win as an independant. I think she should seriously consider it. It almost looked like whole democratic establishment is ga-ga over Obama and forgot a very important fact that women got the right to vote and part in political process later than African-American men. Clinton or not, she is a woman and it might be very long time before a stong female candidate emerges on the political landscape.

Posted by: Kris Bandaru | Jun 4, 2008 1:19:51 AM

"What does Hillary want?'

That was a great speech. She was happy, the crowd loved her there. Great ending of the primary season, especially for her supporters.

Dems don't want her, their loss. VP of Obama? NO.

Posted by: magda | Jun 4, 2008 1:19:46 AM

Hillary WE NEED YOU!
today was one of the sad days i've ever seen. Media pushed the super delegates to 'declare' for obama. Not to VOTE. Not consider the VOTE of 18 Million Americans. Not to consider the strong coalition you put together. Not to consider the powerful electorate map that you have crafted. But to 'declare'.
The pundits knew that this is a democratic process designed to end at the Convntion.
They knew that obama did not have sufficient pledged delegate to win. They knew that you weer going to deliver yet another big victory tonight.

Now, we ask you to deliver on your promise. If you truly believe that every vote counts. If you truly believe that every vote should be counted. If you are as true to those beliefs as you made us believe then, you MUST stand and fight this to the end that has been designed by the democratic process.
It is not over until everyone gets an opportunity to VOTE. it's not over until you have an opportunity to make your case in front of the entire Convention!
We stand with you all the way - we got your back!

Posted by: Average Joe | Jun 4, 2008 1:12:02 AM

Anyone remember the SNL skit from last month with Amy Pohler in the role of Hillary saying: "I am a sore loser"?

Tonight speeches certainly reminded me of this with Obama being extremely gracious, and Hillary refusing to play by the rules and not accepting her defeat.

In the end she looked rather small.

Posted by: Lance D. | Jun 4, 2008 1:10:00 AM

Indycvs-If I have to tell you that, You weren't paying attention. There are many reasons. I have followed this election for what 15/16 months now. He still hasn't convince me and my family at all.

Posted by: Fagobama | Jun 4, 2008 1:07:12 AM

Just for the record:

Obama, like McCain is the "presumed' nominee.

Neither party will have a "confirmed nominee" until after the first ballot of the respective conventions.

Many of the numbers being used are simply hypotheticals. Some states like Texas, for instance, have not even officially determined their delegate allotments, and will not do so until the coming Saturday.

Much could and may transpire over the next couple of months to alter expectations.

Still a long way from a done deal, especially for Obama!

Posted by: Mike | Jun 4, 2008 1:02:05 AM

Might as well pick a symbolic VP, because neither one of them will every see the inside of the White House.

Posted by: Mack | Jun 4, 2008 1:01:16 AM

Steve @ 12:50...you got it dead on. President McCain sounds so All American doesn't it? GOD BLESS AMERICA, not Kenya, not Indonesia, not Afghanistan, not any other place Obama is tied to.

Posted by: Debra | Jun 4, 2008 1:00:55 AM

Guess what? This isn't an election, it's a way for the parties to choose a candidate. You can't complain about disenfranchisement, because you never had the right to vote for who you want for your party.

The parties could select candidates with coin flips, just an example, but they get to choose any way that they see fit. I think it's time for the two party system to be over, but in the meantime I'm voting democrat. No one isn't saying that you can't write in Hillary on November, but you need to understand that the reason she ran is to get democratic goals accomplished, not to be the "first woman president." Running for that reason alone would be selfish.

In all of her counts, she doesn't count caucuses, so they are obviously flawed, because each delegate at my caucus and most across my stat were worth about 15 people (15 people to 1 delegate ratio). It's over, she can't win, but she could be a party pooper and split the ticket and run as an independent, but if McCain get's to keep sending young men & women to the slaughterhouse that is Iraq during his presidency because someone can't follow party rules, she'll never have a future in politics. It's not about the person, it's about what we as the party demand that they accomplish. They represent us, not the other way around. They are ours, we don't belong to them.

Posted by: Paul | Jun 4, 2008 12:59:47 AM

Wes Clark floats Obama-Sebelius


Wes Clark stopped out in Texas yesterday to drop by a fundraiser Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius headlined for Michael Skelly, a Democrat running for congress in Texas.

Clark introduced Sebelius and, according to a regular correspondent and reliable source who was there, said:

"The London odds-makers say that Kathleen Sebelius is the odds-on favorite to be the next vice
president. I can tell you, she'd make a great vice presidential choice."

He then introduced her as "The next vice president of the United States...."

Sebelius is typically considered for the slot only if Obama is the nominee.

A sign of the times from a Clinton loyalist.


http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Wes_Clark_floats_ObamaSebelius.html

Who is Sebelius

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Sebelius

Posted by: Kate | Jun 4, 2008 12:58:14 AM

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