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The media's memory is short indeed if McCain's lack of censure has been cut away from its collective memory.

Obama is not continuing to abide by the campaign finance pledge. It is true now as it was in the primary. It is not a new story either.

It has to be said McCain's lack of ability to raise money has as much to do with his campaign finance reform past as it does with this current election. It is not accurate to suggest he is in worst stead than Obama because he has a record on this issue. Feingold stayed within the boundaries of this reform and had just as bad time on raising money as McCain is having now.

Stating that both politicians are having a difficult time complying with the principle of reform is not the same as reporting what the context of raising money means to a new or an incumbent politician. It is not good with McCain "the agreement did require McCain to reapply for federal matching funds if he withdrew from public financing and lost early primary contests" or Obama is choosing to adapt some elements of reform but still ignoring spending limits. Life is too complex to have part of the story.

Republicans = Me Me Me
Democrats = We We We

I am so glad Obama opted out of public financing. This is the most important election of my lifetime. War vs. Peace. Fearmongering vs. Open Discussion. Exclusivity vs. Inclusivity. Saber Rattling vs. Diplomacy.

If he had been dumb enough to stay with public financing because of anything John McCain had to say about it, I would worry he wasn't bright enough to be President. He has done the right thing. He has to win this one or we might as well finish the shredding job Bushco has done to the Constitution. Now if only he will filibuster the FISA bill this week! (If you don't know about this, you might want to look it up. It allows retroactive immunity to the telecoms who can spy on YOU any time, as well as expands Bush's wiretapping and surveillance powers. Goodbye 4th amendment.)

Obama '08

That all had nothing to do with the general Election, Obama PROMISED to go the Public financing route for the General Election if the republican candidate did, and McCain decided to take Obama up on his pledge and Obama as usual double stepped, because he will be financed by the like of Soros and the Terrorists!! (the same way all those Chinese immigrants donated to Hilary) Obama is getting it the same way from the Muslims!!

FEC should look into that!!!!

Obama is a liar there is no doubt about that, he was a state leg and now running for President. No Experience, He goes to a racist church and then claims if people bring it up they are racist.

We are in a world of trouble if Obama wins in November!!

It took a remarkable amount of hypocrisy from McCain and his minions to attack Obama's retractions. At least Obama's flip flopping stayed within unquestioned legal parameters, unlike McCain's.

He opted in to public financing by securing a the 5M first, which he then used as collateral for the Fidelity Loan along with the donors' list. Using a donors' list for a loan raises privacy issues, perhaps legalities.

As long as McCain didn't use the 5 million from public financing, he didn't have to commit to public financing for his nomination. So in effect, it was used as insurance. After his campaign and donations improved dramatically, it wouldn't been to his advantage to use the system with its restrictions on donations, so he opted out. But for the presidential election, given how flushed the RNC is, it's to his apparent advantage to get back in to public financing.

So now McCain has earned some well deserved bipartisan scrutiny over his opting in with the contingency to opt out, which he chose because things improved. When he opts back in, Obama gets attacked for opting out to his advantage, which is precisely what McCain did earlier.

All this opting in and opting out is a tiresome thing to contemplate for very long. But flap about flip flopping is becoming an enduring trait of this presidential election. Finally, my previous assertion about Cindy McCain paying off his loan was incredibly stupid. Thanks for deleting it.

Obama breaks his promise and McCain gets attacked by the media. Too bad SNL is on haitus. All these "small" donors don't need the money I suppose. You all can easily afford $4 gas. Obama's lie means you won't get your money refunded. i wish someone would ask Obama a question as to why he feels these people do not need the money?

It does not matter how McCain wins as long as he wins!
He can get his money from anywhere he chooses he is a politician just as BO is a mere politician.
We do not want change just the same old same old politics as usual, how would we know any thing different?
Lie, flip flop, bundle donations, our crappy candidates are the SAME!
The one with the best money machine, lies and the biggest flock of sheep WINS!

You expect it from the
Republicans.

But some Clinton supporters
who have not been able to
reconcile themselves with the
results of the Democratic
primaries are talking up
McCain - his virtues and
abilities that are non-existent.

Posted by: anon | Jun 22, 2008 6:54:23 PM

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We think we should be JUST like the BOTS!
Vote for McCain the same is better than the SAME!
No change is coming from BO, propaganda, BS, and lies from the king of flip flopper's!

I find this at the very least . . . . . .disturbing.

Posted by: tr | Jun 23, 2008 6:20:23 AM

You are so right

Posted by: J | Jun 23, 2008 6:07:33 AM

i liken him to the wizard in the wizard of oz...sounds like an authority with grand powers, lots of smoke and mirrors, but when you pull back the curtain you find a little man with no ideas or clue what to do.

Of course McCain is going to misstep on finance. He has Phil Gramm as his financial manager.

to Jackie,
No the point is that if you live in a glass house don't throw stone.

The Dems are fine with this as long as it's the Dems sitting with most of the money. This election the Dems are the Wall Street darlings for a change and the one's sitting with the money so I guess what's important is not campaign reform but rather winning. It's comforting to know the Dems are no different then the Repubs and that it's old politics as usual. And those of you who think Obama's campaign is made up 100% of donations under $200 from regular people, do your homework. Who kept his campaign afloat before all those small donors came on board? Citigroup, JP Morgan Chase, UBS, Exelon,
British Petroleum, Exxon Mobil, "advisors" and "consultants" to lobbyists and "bundled" money from friends and family of lobbyists and so on. Wasn't one of the points of public financing to limit the influence of special interests? The Dems certainly don't have high expectations for their Repub opponent but I would think they would for their own candidate in particular when he claims to be about "change" and "new politics" and promises to always be upfront with the American public. It turns out he's no different then a Clinton or McCain, just the same old politics we've seen over and over again. The Obama camp has done an impressive job in attracting small donors and breaking records (Clinton also broke some records) and no one should take that away from them but the reality is that had Clinton pulled in as much money as the far more organized and up to date Obama camp did there is no doubt we wouldv'e seen the powers that be within the Dem party rally behind Clinton. That type of fundraising capacity trickles down to all levels of the Dem party and that can't be ignored in regards to it's importance. Obama contributed more money to the campaigns of superdelegates then Clinton did and Obama will have the capacity to outspend McCain in this election and as Dems we should be so proud that it all comes down to money and not principle and that those who voted in the Democratic primaries bought into false hope. Whether McCain flip flops or not is not as big of a deal when we jump on board a candidate who promised and promises so much and yet turns out to be nothing more than an "old politics"
politician. There is no hope for change with Obama.

Questioner,
According to a commentator on ABC This Week today the $$ from "small donors" is only 45% of his total donor volume. You can believe whatever numbers you like, though, because Obama is immune to vetting.
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Obama, no vetting please!!!
We are all Weary Possums!!!
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The point is that McCain considered taking public financing or not.Obama insisted he would take it and demanded McCain and all the other potential nominees go with public financing...to "level the playing field"...and he also put it in writing and when it looked like the playing field and the money situation would be favorable to him

HE BROKE HIS WORD...Simple as that

>>>cincyr | Jun 22, 2008 11:07:03 PM;

You DO realize that only 85-90% of Obama's windfall income for his campaign comes from you wee little donators, right?

Well..... where do you think the other 10 to 15% of the money is coming from?

Outer space?

Naah.

What do you think the B I G donees will want in return?

Guess again!

Naturally, McCain does not see
himself as a quibbler or an
equivocator but a man of
principle you can depend on.

In Des Moines, Iowa, in March
2007, here's McCain to reporters
aboard his campaign bus:

"My positions haven't changed,"
McCain said. "I'm too old to
change. I'm the same. People
will understand that as the
campaign goes on."

The current voting age is fine with me. I applaud all the young people(college age) who are working the campaigns and are interested in moving our country forward by refusing to vote for a socialist, Senator Obama.
GOODNIGHT AND HAVE A GOOD WEEK.
LOL

WCM: We are being distracted by the Presidential election from the real game.

I just watched Recount (but it was no different than what I recall, exactly) and it is once again clear that the only way that the Democrats can ensure a win in the White House in the fall is to engage in a bare knuckled street fight with McCain and the Republicans. Obama can easily rationalize telling a big lie about public funding to prevail in this street fight. May God help us all.
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Obama, please, no vetting allowed!!
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Mary: What do you think the voting age should be?

--GOP are thieves.----Does that mean that if the candidate is 35 years old and a natural born citizen but a convicted rapist or murderer, you would vote for him???? If so, this country is in trouble. LOL

GOP are Thieves--Please read my post correctly. I did not say a word about Obama being too young or under 35 years old or that he was not born in USA. I was referring to many of his YOUNG supporters.

Posted by: Mary | Jun 22, 2008 10:58:26 PM

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Mary, I read your post. My point is he meets the requirements set forth by the constitution. That's all that's necessary for voters validate if he meets the voters requirements.

cincyr: We'll want our money back!

The McCain Victory '08 fund has been set up so that individuals can donate up to $70,000 to his campaign. It takes advantage of a loophole (drum roll please) in the McCain-Feingold campaign finance law. His campaign calls it a "hybrid legal structure".

Here's the breakdown of how the funds are distributed:
-$2,300 for general election
-$28,500 to the RNC
-Remaining funds, up to $10,000 each, go to what McCain's campaign has determined battleground states.

Et voilà! What will the people signing $70,000 checks over to McCain want in return?

--GOP are Thieves--Please read my post correctly. I did not say a word about Obama being too young or under 35 years old or that he was not born in USA. I was referring to many of his YOUNG supporters.

--Seah-- I agree with you about Senator Obama. So many of his followers are young people who have not been "out in the real world" and simply believes everything the man says as the truth. He does have charisma and makes wonderful speeches when he is reading a prepared speech from a teleprompter. But certainly that does not qualify him to be the President. He lacks intergity, intelligence, experience and judgment. His policies on energy, the war, economy, etc. are not defined enough and he keeps changing his mind.

Posted by: Mary | Jun 22, 2008 8:31:46 PM

Mary here's a news flash for you.

The minimum age is 35. Here is the clause that defines this age and other requirements:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

Sources: http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Article2

tim: It seems that conservatives are faced with two democrats this election cycle. I await their VP choices to see which one is more 'right'.

Yes Seah,

You figured it out! Obama supporters are under mind control. That's it. It's a deliberate and well exucted movement based on mind control. We are all gulible and weak.

Glad YOU are too smart to fall for it though. Perhaps you can save the rest of us with your multiple blog postings every day. Glad there's smart folks like you out there to help show us the light.

It's amazing how much I've learned about my fellow Americans in the last six months. There's WAY too many people wrapped up in conspiracy theories based on inuendo, conjecture, and flat-out lies (like Obama won't face the flag or was sworn in on the Koran for example). Worse yet, is people like Seah will believe that crap.

Too many people think if it's on the internet, is must be true.

We need to improve our educational system and raise the standard for critical thinking in the USA.

It's definitely time for a change!

OBAMA 08!

Obama's followers haven't been in the real world? Oh please. The people behind McCain can be broken down into three general groups, the super rich OLD MONEY, many of whom have had lives so devoid of hard work, they think the only purpose for gloves are to help you with your grip on a golf club.
The second are middle and low level white collar workers who think they are capitalists by being wage slaves for someone else. These are the people who listen to Rush Limbaugh and agree with everything he says while also believing they are rugged individualists. They've never done anything to stand out from the flock of sheep they're a part of, beyond being exceptional examples of sheep.

The last class is the white working class in southern and southern minded states. These are the highest quality people among McCain supporters and they know what a hard day's work is. Unfortunately, large segments of this group believe that Obama is a muslim, going to lead a revolution against white people, etc... because they trust what their dumbass friends say too much, without verifying things for themselves.

Myself, I've been successfully self employed for going on 6 years. I built my businesses from nothing but an idea and hard work. I know what hard work is, but more than that, I know what capitalism is because I don't just listen to some loud mouth on TV or radio extol the virtues of it, I live it every day, taking risks, failing, succeeding, and reinvesting.

I guarantee you the people saying crap about Obama supporters lacking "real world experience" have wage slave jobs working for someone else and know only how to be a good little follower. Their "real world" is taking marching orders from others. Like McCain. He's a good little follower, which is why he doesn't stand for hardly anything he stood for just a year ago, because he's following what the leaders of the RNC have to say. Contrast to Obama, he's a mover and shaker, a real leader, the DNC is following what he has to say, not vice versa.

Those of who actually compete in the real free market every day and make a living at it, rather than the wage slaves who are content taking their marching orders from others, we know leadership when we see it, and Obama has it and McCain does not. It's really that simple.

The republicans only care about this because, for once, the democrats are better financed then they are.

make no mistake about it, Obama IS PUBLICLY financed... it's just directly from the middle and lower class via his web site. ...the majority of his fund raising is coming directly from the middle and lower class public with donations under 100 dollars. People like me, I personally donated 25 dollars three times. (hey look, it's a grass roots movement like the ones republicans love to talk about so much!)

heather, Vero Possomus,
Obama is a blank slate, put together by the Axelrod machine (the new Karl Rove) to make you believe whatever you personally need to believe to give him your vote. All the other words you are hearing to rationalize anything about him or McCain, pure make-believe.
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Obama, let's not bother to vet, please!
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We're all just weary possums!
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As one of these young voters 'who have not been "out in the real world"', I only have what I see and hear to make my choices on. What Obama is saying aligns with what I am experiencing, and what McCain is saying does not.

My parents are supporters of McCain. They have always voted Republican, and will again. No discussion, no reason, they just always have. Myself, I'm listening to what the candidates are saying, and Obama fits my experiences better.

--Seah-- I agree with you about Senator Obama. So many of his followers are young people who have not been "out in the real world" and simply believes everything the man says as the truth. He does have charisma and makes wonderful speeches when he is reading a prepared speech from a teleprompter. But certainly that does not qualify him to be the President. He lacks intergity, intelligence, experience and judgment. His policies on energy, the war, economy, etc. are not defined enough and he keeps changing his mind.

seah said:
It is called mind conditioning, mind manipulation. Same techniques that Hitler used on the German people.

The techniques are more refined with all the studies done on the techniques since then.
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Seriously! I dont hate John McCain. I dont thin he is the devil and I dont hink he has cloved hooves or horns.

Obama is just more in line with my ideals. Period.

You call it "mind control", I call it an informed voter.

Mr Obama Controls their minds. He has them thinking he is All good and the only one who can help them. That everyone else is evil and trying to get him. That no one cares about them but him.

It is called mind conditioning, mind manipulation. Same techniques that Hitler used on the German people.

The techniques are more refined with all the studies done on the techniques since then.

The Obama followers have no clue What has happened to them or that they are a part of it all. Just like the German people were not that dumb, they were just sucked into the vacuum with out them knowing it was happening.

heather..

lol i just happen to be a lone conservative it seems in here.. odd huh?! im just trying to talk about facts and issues.. im not being rude to anyone.. he was backing the global warming debate, and i was just asking him why? is that unfair to ask?!

larry..

yes! mccain is falling for it !!! thats my whole point. im voting for mccain, i didnt say i liked him.. lol anyone who has done any research on global warming and not just lisetened to al gore or all the liberal media on this subject, know that its not a real big issue. well let me rephrase that.. its an issue, but not an emergency. getting rid of pollution and emmisions is always a good thing. but,look at the climate change that has occured since we have started recording it(which is merely a blip on the screen as far as time goes) do you realize how minimal it has increased?! and do you realize how much of that is man made?! and how its cyclical? then they want to tell you the polar bears are dying because of it??!! are you kidding me?!! the earths climate has decreased since 1998? i mean, i realize that that is just ten years, but its the point that its not a man made issue!! its mother nature, and for these democrats (and select republicans, who just happen to be running for president.. coincidence?!) to try to "scare" us into believing this for political purposes?! its the same thing yours truly did with the war!!! its called fearmongering!! but you dont see it when its "your side" doing the fear mongering.. lol

new york times?! time?! newsweek?! you have a few decent ones in there, but jeesh... no wonder you believe the polar bears are all dying.. lol

Posted by: tim | Jun 22, 2008 7:51:50 PM
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Aactually, I would blame that on the Discovery Channel, LOL!

tim said:
vero... you're the one i wanted the reply from!! you were the one when asked if global warming was "for real" said go ask the polar bears!!!
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Oops, sorry, I thoguht the question was directed at Melissa and I was just chiming in about the polar bears to be contrary!

Actually, I do beleive that it is a bit overblown, but not completely. But then again the world has a history of wiping all forms of life and scientists believe we are about 7,000 years overdue. So it is probably a natural progession of things.

We had ice ages and mini-ice ages thousands of years before man, so it only stands to reason that pattern will continue. Are we accelerating the process? Maybe, but I believe it's inevitable.

Hope that was the answer your were looking for.

Jeanne in MI

tim, Vero Possumus

Excuse me for interrupting...

Polar bears - There is one single reason why the population has gone up: The 1973 International Agreement on the Conservation of Polar Bears that put heavy restrictions on hunting.

The effects of global warming have only just started to show, and using the last 20 years as some kind of proof that polar bears love the heat is absurd.

Another thing: Reports in some areas of increasing numbers of polar bears on land is most likely a result of shrinking sea ice. Polar bears are forced to seek new frontiers.

Tim:

Why are you demanding an answer on global warming from vero? John McCain acknowledges there is a climate change problem, and has proposed legislation to combat global warming. He even held hearings in the Commerce Commission on this very issue.

If vero is wrong, then isn't McCain? Or, if you are right in there is no global warming, then isn't McCain wrong? Are you campaigning to defeat McCain?

CAPTAIN AMERICA...

ok, im sure im going to regret this but i need to know your reasons why republicans are ruining the country??

Jake Tapper, thank you for exposing Mccain's double talking hypocrisy for all to see. Unfortunately most republican zombie lemmings will continue to follow them over the cliff. Even though republicans are ruining the country.

Flip-flopping McCain would have
made a good footwear salesman
selling flip-flop sandals than
the dead-end politician he has
become.

vero... you're the one i wanted the reply from!! you were the one when asked if global warming was "for real" said go ask the polar bears!!! i then said, thats what the media and democrats want you to believe, but they have gone up in popuklatin over the last two decades!! cmon now, dont back out.. i want to hear WHY you think global warming is such a big issue??!!

melissa...

well, like i said.. theres just too many factors in pulling out of iraq. the bush administration has mishandled it since day one. although, its at its best point it has been in right now since the start of the war. the only reason i said maybe in a years time, is because we just cant pick up and leave without setting some sort of a stable government there. now, keep in mind the iraqi people REALLY would need to be pressured into stepping up and making a stand. there hasnt been enough pressure on the mto stand up, and thats been a big problem. what do you think the rest of the world would think if we just start pulling out?! you think they hate us now? that would be the most irresponsible thing we could do. but it would take stern leadership to just say this is whats going to happen. this is what HAS to happen. it can be done i believe, but just going to take stern leadership and i do think mccain could provide that. i think there is one advantage to having the military background, and that is that he will be stern. the line will be drawn in the sand. by the way, i didnt mean the war in iraq was needed, i meant the war on terrorism in general needs to be fought. and fought aggressivly. we are losing too much clout in the world, and we need to regain our leadership as the leaders for peace.

independant..

well, i guess as far as consistency goes, mccain isnt too bad. he's weak on a few issues that are sooo important though. drilling for oil(for the not so immediate solution), soooo weak on border security and illegal immigration laws... also, falling a little too deep for the global warming falacy. im not really impressed with anything he says to be honest, but those are by far the worst ones... lol

tim,
i disagree that the war in Iraq is needed but why do you feel it would be better to wait a year vs now? what would change? oh yea i agree that there were presidents before bush that were screw ups and just as deceitful it just seems to be way more apparent to people with bush maybe cause he isnt a very good liar i dont know.. you really have a 50 50 shot on anyone you pick now i didnt vote for bush i would love to say it was because i am so smart that i knew he was a ####### but i cant say that i didnt vote cause i tend to think they are ALL #########..lol and about 10 min after they hear your the winner they have all but forgotten who the heck your were and what they promised they were going to do for you.. however this year i chose to vote on the issues who i think is the MOST likely to run the white house the way i would like and thats about it..

To me, the Republican's 'trickle down economics' is a plumbing issue. It sure looks like something leaking out of a sewer pipe.

Maybe where you live life is good. Here, we need jobs. Its not that we don't want to work, its that we cant. We aint asking for a handout. Just a helping hand. For years, we have been workin under a life where things are stacked against us, especially this past 8 years.

We need a change. Americans want to work. We can work. But there aint no jobs.

mellissa..

i hear you on that. i definately am not stupid enough to claim i have the answer either. i voted for the idiot twice, and i wasnt for going into iraq. but i will say, it is a war that NEEDS to be fought. and it needs to be fought aggressivly. as far as pulling out immeadiately, that would could be as stupid as making the mistake of going in in the first place. but, if handled properly i think we could start pulling troops out within a years time. all depends, just too many factors. but hindsight is 20/20. and our government has been corrupt since the beginning of time.. bush wasnt the first one. every administration has done it.

Senator Obama and his supporters are now doing the same type of dirty deeds against Senator McCain as Obama did in 1996 to get elected to Illinois state senate. He will try to find a way to prevent opponents from being on the ballot. Corrupt Obama will say or do anything to win any way he can. Obama believes in sewer politics and which smell. Also, I heard a TV rerun yesterday where Obama agreed to public funding last fall.

Yea, she's a real treat. We lost out on a huge Honda plant 2 years ago because she didn't want to make Toyota mad.

The primary mess was no big deal, we are so used to her screwing us, everyone just kinds shrugged their shoulders.

Now they are about to pass a state wide smoking ban. That doesnt bother me, but I think we have lost enough jobs. 3 restaruants closed in my town in the last month due to the economy.

I can remember during the seventies, there were t-shirts that said "Last one out of Michigan, turn out the lights" LOL!

tim

Your posts make good sense. The left wing, as usual, sold out the good Democrats, and while Republican leaders are seriously flawed, they are, for the most part consistent. Compared to the nominees from both parties during the last 20 years, Mr. McCain actually stacks up pretty good.

ok, well i guess im not going to get a reply on global warming. thats a real surprise...

tim ,
sorry have 4 kids got busy didnt see the post til now.
i dont see the war in iraq as anything to do with terrorism but i think we should pull out as soon as possible,i dont think another 4 or 10 years in iraq is the solution to anything.. but i agree hind sight is 20 20 and its too late to go back and change it now..
about terrorism, im not 100 percent sure. i am not even 100 percent sure how the whole thing started as i suspect most people in america at least are only half sure if at all..on one hand i think we should go after them because they are not going to stop attacking us on the other hand you im not entirely sure that i would agree with even myself on that with out knowing the whole story.
i know how corrupt and shameless our government can act and if nothing else bush has taught us you can not entirely trust what they say or do is the whole truth or the right thing.
i dont have the answer for that.

ok, i feel ya on that vero.. i agree, from what i know about it. look at what your own did to you guys with your primary vote?! not sure a total cleansing of your democratic leadership there wouldnt be a bad idea.. lol

tim.

Um, job, jobs, jobs, LOL! Booting out our do-nothing Gov. Jennifer Granholm and our entire Senate to start with.

Rethink NAFTA for another. The terms have not been kind to the Detroit Auto Industry. Part is their own fault, part is not.

and vero, please dont ignore the polar bears.. i definately NEED to hear your reply to that one.. lol

ok, you tell me. since our national unemployment rate is not bad by any means, what do YOU think the answer for michigan is?

a recession, in history, has shown to be a good "cleansing" of our system.

Posted by: tim | Jun 22, 2008 6:49:57 PM
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If that is the case, then we here in Michigan have been cleansed, bathed, hosed, and had the ultimate high colonic, LOL!

sorry typo below.. poulation went up from roughly 5000 to nearly 25000...

vero..

man that was quick.. see, thats the answer i was expecting. do you mean the same polar bears that have gone up in population from roughly 5000 to nearly 25oo in about 15 years? are those the ones you want me to ask??!! see, that was my point. our liberals in government and our liberals in the media want to MAKE you believe its an issue! if you are referring to the recent "polar bear endangered species" law that was just passed, you do realize that was just a step by the left wingers to stop any further plans for drilling for oil right? THE POPULATION OF POLAR BEARS HAS GONE UP IN THE LAST TWO DECADES. do some research before you what you hear from keith olberman. thank you for giving me the answer i wanted to hear though.

You expect it from the
Republicans.

But some Clinton supporters
who have not been able to
reconcile themselves with the
results of the Democratic
primaries are talking up
McCain - his virtues and
abilities that are non-existent.

tim wrote:
do you not believe the democrats and leftists are blowing the global warming issue out of proportion just a little??
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Maybe you should ask the polar bears...

vero...

i realize that, i dont want to be confused with someone who dosnt realize that its a moot point, but just want to keep things real. a recession and depression are two totally different things, and im not sure if some people realize that. a recession, in history, has shown to be a good "cleansing" of our system.

It sounds like a line got crossed for a private lending institute to use federal funding, specifically stated or not, and political donors as collateral. There's no info. on how the original loan was paid back. There could be major conflict of interest in the repayment. Particularly if it was his wife and her income from her beer dynasty, which has lobbied hard against MADD and other regulations, and more recently, introduced a beer/caffiene product. But that is just speculation.

mellissa..

ok, i see your point. but just out of curiosity, what do you feel we should do about the war. dont tell me what we "should" have done, but i want your idea on what to do about terrorism. and im not being cocky here.. lol i just want your thoughts on what should be done about it. and let me ask an honest question.. do you not believe the democrats and leftists are blowing the global warming issue out of proportion just a little??

thats pretty funny actually, but you do realize the country is not in a recession yet right?!
Posted by: tim | Jun 22, 2008 6:26:30 PM
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Symantics. The economy grew at a staggering rate of .05% last quarter. So we just squeaked by. I don't think this quarter will be so kind.

McCain is hoodwinking the
public that he's a
straight-talking, upstanding
politician while riding his
campaign bus named the
Straight Talk Express.

In fact, he's been riding
the Doubletalk Express all
along.

w raymond mills..

sounds good, but you're kind of contradicting yourself here. maybe i should have been a little more specihic i guess... smaller FEDERAL government. smaller STATE governments. smaller LOCAL governments. you're exactly right, by splitting up the powers, it IS making smaller government!! the point is, everyones idea of "Big government" is different. of course politicians say it but also realize it means cutting their jobs! im saying, i dont want the government IN CHARGE OF MY HEALTH CARE. idont want the government spending my tax money on WELFARE the way they currently do. i dont want my government to tell me HOW MUCH IS A RESONABLE PROFIT TO MAKE. i dont want the government TO PAY FOR MY COLLEGE EDUACATION. see, you can spin it anyway you want, but if you have government control or oversight on every aspect of our lives, you take away incentive. you take away the drive that made us what we are. look at welfare for that example. what real good has it done for the majority of people who use it? yes, it serves a purpose, within reason. its held the black community down for decades. thats just one example. im PROUD TO PAY TAXES. i just want them spent on the common good of the hard working, law abiding, fellow tax payers!! i want national security, i want safe roads and bridges, i want to be able to retire when i get old, i want our schools and education top notch, i could go on and on about what government SHOULD do. but lately, its a matter of explaing what the government SHOULD NOT DO.

i think its better to take it serious now then wait until its too late.. with global warming, relations with other countries, we need to get out of iraq and stop puffing out our chest and throwing tantrums like we are 3 and starting wars that are not needed. we need to focus on our economy and what we can do to help regain our export strengths we once had, somehow limit our need for