McCain, Clinton and Race

I think every one on this site can agree we Don't want hillary on the ticket with Sen. Barack Obama. neither does the Supper Delegets now how do we let him know that???

Debra people are and have been loosing there homes. Sen. Barack has had nothing to do with it. who are you blaming that on. The people who saved the credit industry, Do you know who that is. are you saying everyone will become homeless. Who did you vote for?? Why don't you find out what he stands for. He is against those people who would do these things. Don't you know thats why he doesn't have support of big business or lobbyist???

Have you ever heard of privilege?

Have you ever heard of entitlement?

I'd say when those ceilings are broken, the usual inhabitants aren't exactly thrilled that their club has to be more inclusive.

Why would anyone be surprised by this? I am glad BHO's nomination and candidacy are breaking down all the denial there is out there about race, religion, class and gender. Maybe we can finally have honest conversations on what reality really is.

Okay, okay, the age reference was to McCain, not Clinton, who preceded the reference.

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McCain is not young, or flashy or a great speaker---but I trust his strength, his patriotism, his experience, and I appreciate his humility.

I do not believe McCain will be like Bush. I trust his word more than I trust Obama's.
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McCains Humility???
Trust his word??
The man has been in Washington for 30 years...Humility and trust have never been part of John McCains personality.
You really should look into his record, not his TV personna..

Thanks Tommy T. I agree. We ought to judge the candidates on what they say, but some people say, we become like the company we keep.

Therefore I assert for those less rational than you:
I don't think his former minister is nutty. I think he was angry and justifiably so.
For example
The CIA trained bin Laudin and worked side by side with him and his team in Afghanistan for ten years.
That is a pure fact. Undeniable.
Your tax dollars at work, training terrorists.
That is an example of the phrase grumpy Rev Wright used two days after 9-11, when he said "OUR chickens have come home to roost".
That's "our" chickens. Yours, mine, ours. OUR tax dollars at work, OUR CIA, training terrorists.
If YOUR tax dollars and YOUR CIA trained the person bin Laudin, who admitted he commanded the operation which resulted in 9-11, then your/our/my chickens DID indeed, come home to roost. We all eat the karma for US policy, even the 'innocent'.

Not only that, but shortly before 9-11, a retired high ranking CIA official, a Rockefeller, confessed on national public radio, that he had personally arranged to overthrow the legitimate regime of Iran and installed the Shah, himself. The Iranians were angry about that. The Shah stayed in power for decades, through the use of a spy system which was brutal. When the Shah left Iran and came to the US for medical treatment, his government was overthrown by the Ayatollahs who said of the US, that we are in league with the Devil. Remember?
That is another chicken. That Iranian chicken who noticed our techniques were not only undemocratic but supported a despotic ruler for a lower price of oil, is now buying a nuclear plant from the Russians, which when it is completed will generate enough fissionable material to make one A-bomb the size of Nagasaki every two week.

So let us not pretend that our hands are clean.
Our chickens are all over the middle east and now and then they do apparently come home to roost.

I could go on. I wont bore you.
I can deal point by point with all of Rev Wright's screaming. It was angry sure enough but it was accurate in every single regarding the bin Laudin chickens. Most of what Rev Wright says in the version that plays every night on TV, is quoting a US white Ambassador. The white US ambassador said, OUR CHICKENS HAVE COME HOME TO ROOST.
Rev Wright was quoting him.
I know he is portrayed as off the wall by the TV spin guys. Half them dont know that Rockefeller overthrew the Iranian government or that he did it to keep the Brits in their sweetheart oil deal.
That chicken came home to roost during Carter's term.
It was spun that Carter was weak on foreign affairs but we know now that Bush I was involved in treason selling missiles to the Iranian terrorists in return for helping Bush win the election by making Carter look weak. How do we know? We put the salesman who arranged the deal between Bush and the Ayatollah in the slammer.
He lives in Maryland.

Hello. Hillary Clinton was not born in 1936! She's not seventy-two, but sixty. I guess someone is taking liberties again with the facts about Hillary Clinton . . .

Irish Gal,
Any chance you can compare and contrast the point of view of the candidates, or are you one of those right wingers we see on TV who can only shout unsubstantiated personal vituperation?

Quite partisan to attack McCain for not pointing out someone's race. Unfortunately, race may raised only when it suits liberal Obama's purposes. And when it isn't so duly raised, you're a racist. America is too smart for that level of logic.

The whiners who oppose Obama because of his nutty minister are merely seeking an excuses to extend the failed Bush era. Hey, white voters (like me) and Republicans voters (unlike me) have for years taken marching orders without question from bizare ministers like Falwell, Hagee, Robertson, Haggerty too many others to mention. Lets look at what is in a candidate's heart and mind, not what a silly preacher says.

A
Chameleon is spelled thus.

Flexibility in responding to circumstances is more effective than pretending you are always right: the Bush way to international disaster.
Read the McClellan book. Bush makes up his mind and it is the job of his staff to prove him right.
Scientists and engineers in NASA were forbidden from publicizing the facts of global warming.
Chameleons can respond to reality with appropriate gestures. In Bush's case, no facts matter, once he makes up his mind, such as it is.
He is like the computer Hal in the movie. Once Bush gets the "prime directive" you cannot get him to see what's in front of him.

Thanks Irish Gal. I bet you are way under 65.

Did you know that most independents over 65 and a majority of conservatives over 65 are opposed to McCain? They know what it is like to go to the pantry and forget why they made the trip.

Bwahahahaha....how have things gone
under Bush? A disaster at every turn.
Let's give the Republicans another
chance! Not their fault they've squandered all your children's and grandchildren's money for nothing.

Cindy in NC
Where do you stand on waterboarding prisoners?
Neither Clinton nor Obama approve.
McCain is ok with requiring prisoners to give testimony against themselves and to torture prisoners by waterboarding them like witches were by the Puritans, which is against the Geneva convention for treatment of prisoners, and against the Constitution.
You'll get over it. She will get to be a supreme court Justice if Obama wins.

Mary
Please give specifics. You are blathering.

Obama had nothing to do with Katrina.

That was Bush's friend with no qualifications, in FEMA and Bush.

Brilliantly said Jake,

McCain will not loose any votes over this, but if he was true to the core concerning his patriotic heart for America he would have praised the American public because they chose the Democratic candidate that ran the best campaign irregardless of his race and transcended the racial barriers of the past. He would have expressed his pride in the country because of this as well as his confidence that America will again choose the candidate with the best ideas and qualification regardless of his race or AGE!!

What a missed opportunity for Mr Mcain!

Jayhawk
You are blaming the wrong people. Bush vetoed any attempts to change policy.

McCain's eyesight isn't what it used to be, so he's probably not aware that Obama is African American.

I thought we were suppose to be colorblind?

OK...PRAISE YE! PRAISE YE! PRAISE YE! AA OBAMA! Let me kiss your feet!

Feel better? sheesh.

Had they said something about the first AA nominee, which he is NOT until AUGUST or until Hillary suspends her campaign, the media would have found something wrong with it. They can't win either way.

GO, Hillary! Off to DENVER!

The price of gas is also changed by the value of the dollar, which has lost 1/2 its value since Bush's "permanent campaign' and the fake war in Iraq started.

Since Aug 2007 the value of the dollar has dropped like a stone.