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McCain on Obama: Inexperienced, But "I Didn't Say He Wasn't a Smart Politician"

June 01, 2008 10:40 AM

Another typically illuminating interview from The Atlantic's Jeffrey Goldberg, this one with Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. HERE and HERE.

Lots of good stuff in there, but I particularly liked the conversation about Sen. Barack Obama's stated willingness to meet unconditionally with dictators of rogue nations hostile to the U.S.

One excerpt:

MCCAIN: Senator Obama likes to refer to President Kennedy going to Vienna. Most historians see that as a serious mistake, which encouraged Khrushchev to build the Berlin Wall and to send missiles to Cuba. Another example is Richard Nixon going to China. I’ve forgotten how many visits Henry Kissinger made to China, and how every single word was dictated beforehand. More importantly, he went to China because China was then a counterweight to a greater threat, the Soviet Union. What is a greater threat in the Middle East than Iran today?

Senator Obama is totally lacking in experience, so therefore he makes judgments such as saying he would sit down with someone like Ahmadinejad without comprehending the impact of such a meeting. I know that his naivete and lack of experience is on display when he talks about sitting down opposite Hugo Chavez or Raul Castro or Ahmadinejad….

GOLDBERG: What is the difference between an American president negotiating with Ahmadinejad and Ehud Olmert negotiating with the Syrians?

MCCAIN: You don’t see him sitting down opposite Bashar, do you? (Bashar al-Assad is president of Syria.) I mean, that’s the point here. It was perfectly fine that Ryan Crocker spoke with the Iranian ambassador in Baghdad. The point is you don’t give legitimacy by lending prestige of a face-to-face meeting, with no preconditions.

GOLDBERG: But Obama has shifted off that position.

MCCAIN: Sure, and the next time he sees where he’s wrong, maybe he’ll shift again. The point is is that he doesn’t understand. Look, in the primary, he was unequivocal in his statements. And now he realizes that it’s not a smart thing to say. I didn’t say he wasn’t a smart politician.

Read the whole thing HERE and HERE

- jpt

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In praising Kissinger and Nixon for meeting with Mao what GOP partisans don't want you to remember is that some of the "preconditions" for that historic meeting were that the US throw under the bus a wide group of anti-Communist resistance groups we had supported for years. Which ones? Oh, the Tibetan resistance movement, for one. What a proud legacy for McCain to refer to, eh? Selling out allies to cosy up to one of the great tyrants of the century. Nice. So which party are "appeasers"? Let the facts speak for themselves. Ah, but perhaps McCain is no better at history than he says he is at that pesky economic stuff? God help our nation if he gets elected.

Oh, and that oil thing? Has anyone stopped to think what a huge boost the run-up in oil prices has been for... Iran? Nice. Bush was supposed to keep prices down because he was such good friends of the Saudis. That worked out well, didn't it? Do you want four more years of such double-talk? I sure don't.

Posted by: Arthur | Jun 2, 2008 1:19:38 PM

I have not read all the comments, but it seems like very few people are engaging the substance of McCain's foreign policy discussion and how it relates to Obama's brashness, which seems dead on to me.

Instead, "go Obama" no matter what his shifting positions might be, and he is an evil republican and old...shallow, in my opinion...

McCain used to be the republican democrats liked, if you can fish it back out of the memory hole.

Posted by: Wade | Jun 2, 2008 11:42:28 AM

Those who would vote for the party that has ruined the country in these seven years, for whatever reason, are only doing it to themselves and will have years to get used to the pleasure.

Posted by: all | Jun 2, 2008 11:09:43 AM

Sophia,

over 4,000 in iraq alone...3,000 on 911. we never hear about the casualties in afghanistan and i have not even included the injured....

what about the dead and wounded from the countries that are helping the US with their troops?

what about the thousands of families with empty places at the dinner table?

when you count the iraqi, and afghani, dead wounded and displaced....woah..this whole thing has been an unnatural disaster.

Posted by: LOKI | Jun 2, 2008 9:36:25 AM

obama got more votes in the states that he lost than mccain got in the states tha he won...with paul and bar pulling a good chunk of votes away from mccain,...can u say...PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA?

Posted by: loki | Jun 2, 2008 9:24:50 AM

If Barack Hussein Obama is the nominee,

and...if Hillary Rodham clinton does not run as an independent, which I strongly advocate and will support in every aspect monetarily and otherwise.

Then all John Sydney Mccain has to do is still be breathing come November in order to get my vote. He is at least real as opposed to ephemeral!

Posted by: West Texas | Jun 2, 2008 3:16:03 AM

I have research Senator Obama's background including his growing up years, his personnal, professional and poltiical life and I could come up with dozens of adjectives to express his personality and candidancy but if I used only one word, it would be EVIL.
This man does not belong on ballot or in the White House
Anyone except Obama.

Posted by: Mary | Jun 1, 2008 11:53:09 PM

Bush ran a brilliant campaign....he managed to get the support in 2000 of a lot more than 1/2 of the Republicans.


He had a habit (just like Obama) of talking his supporters into supporting lame brain policies,

Obama is a lot more like Bush than McCain. McCain is a principled and honest guy who has often stood up to other Republicans to "do the right thing".

Obama is a smart politician...."change" is a campaign slogan....not a policy.

Posted by: Jackie | Jun 1, 2008 10:10:17 PM

DEBBIE...

ok, so i have to know something. and im not being a smartass when i ask this, i just simply want to know: what made you a "new" supporter of obama? i mean, who were you supporting previously and what "intelligence" does he have that made you change your mind?

Posted by: tim | Jun 1, 2008 1:47:12 PM

Sen Obama is very smart, perfect Democratic nominee because he's done nothing in pass. Oh, I forgot only one mistake he made that he attended that church.

Posted by: Alex | Jun 1, 2008 1:43:29 PM

Obama is an extremely talented politician. As was George W. Bush.
Enough said.

Posted by: hopesprings52 | Jun 1, 2008 1:42:25 PM

MICKEY...

wow, do i wish i was a fast typer cause i would LOVE to give you some education on all of those issues. those ARE all real issues by the way. but your implying that its REPUBLICANS fault right?! and that obama is going to reverse all of that right?! ley me start with the first: poverty in america IS NOT THE GOVERNMENTS FAULT! it starts with and comes down to a little thing called PERSONAL responsibility!! im not saying the government shouldnt be there to help those in REAL need, but the government IS NO THE ANSER TO POVERTY. the medicine thing: yes, again IT IS A REAL PROBLEM. but again, do you trust the american governmet with your health care??!! the ones who have put us in a 9 trillion dollar debt??!! you think they will do the job effectively?! look at other nations with universal health care. and dont even get me started on the 4 dollar gas!!!!you think maybe if slick willy and the dems would have let us start using OUR resources and statred drilling for oil we would be in this situation??!! and your going to blame the oil companies for making record profits?! it has NOTHING to do with the problem! they are playing by the rules, and its not the dollar amount they are brining in, its THE Profit margin!! the percentage! they are making an average of 8 percent profit. that is NOT unethical profits. thats NOT price gouging. the problem is OUR DEPENDANCE ON FOREIGN OIL. homeless vets has ALWAYS been a problem. do you know how many vietnam vets are still homeless and are never going to be "normal" again? thats war, and thats what it does to you. im not saying it isnt a problem, but that has not been a repuiblican or "current administration" problem..lol we definately need to pay more attention to it. and this might have been the most ridiculous one you said: forclosures on homes because of the war??!! do you even know what your talking about?! the forclosures were because of PREDATORY LENDING AND PEOPLE BUYING MORE THAN THEY COULD AFFORD. plain and simple. and do some research on it and look at the laws changed by mr. clinton (again) on lending laws. but now, yet again, the TAZPAYERS are responsble for fixing stupid peoples mistakes. mickey, i wish i could explain all of this to you, but i dont have the time or energy right now. but do yourself a favor, and do some REAL research on these issues. quit blaming certain people(george bush, oil companies, etc.) for problems that were either pre existing or have nothing to do with the problem in the first place. you are simply biased and uninformed.

Posted by: tim | Jun 1, 2008 1:42:04 PM

Give me a smart presidential candidate any day.

AMERICANS DESERVE TO BE LED WITH INTELLIGENCE.

GO OBAMA - I'M YOUR NEWEST SUPPORTER.

Posted by: Debbie | Jun 1, 2008 1:36:15 PM

Mickey - Can't argue with many of the things you listed. Bush has made a mess of things because of the self-serving arrogance of many that made policy for him. I believe the motivations for Iraq were more than meets the eye. Cheap oil seems high on the list especially after McCain's admission a few weeks ago. If the dems produce someone with a reasonable budget plan, I would be happy. Obama along with Paul is probably the best on talking with others that may see the world differently.

Posted by: Ben Straub | Jun 1, 2008 1:30:19 PM


Tina,

You got it. We just need the smartest politician in the WHITE HOUSE.

Posted by: I.A.T. Smith | Jun 1, 2008 1:29:01 PM

tim - I have no idea. I think sometimes the only thing people see is some kind of celebrity status drummed up by the media. People also seem to be interested in what a politician can give them rather than what is best for the country. I personally think we are in big financial trouble especially with stagflation taking off and none of the candidates, except very few, actually talk about the root causes. I feel that this is probably because the politician would need to blame America for somethings, and this doesn't go over very well with the dumbed-down electorate. We have seen this with the blackout of Paul by the media. I agree that with you that we broke Iraq so we must fix it, but I also see our presence as a possible hindrance to progress. It is just a really tough situation that never should have happened.

Posted by: Ben Straub | Jun 1, 2008 1:25:18 PM

It takes a smart politician to lead a country in the most prudent and just manner.

WE NEED A POLITICIAN WHO IS NOT TOO ARROGANT TO LISTEN.

OBAMA IS THAT POLITICIAN.

Posted by: Tina | Jun 1, 2008 1:24:15 PM

BEN..

i totally agree with you again. the dems HAVE been more excited than the republicans. but thats just democrats personalities.. lol i mean, they get all "hyped" up about change and hope. and i dont mean that in a offensive way, but idealists are just that way. how many bumper stickers for john mccain do you see? its a good example. idealist and liberals like to spout off at the mouth and throw their political interests and views around on the rest of the country. conservatives, in general, dont do that. my point is, that just because the democrats seem more motivated or excited, dosnt mean that will make any difference.

Posted by: tim | Jun 1, 2008 1:24:06 PM

Tim:

You are right, perhaps we should stick to the issues.

Like why children are going to bed hungry in America, while corporate elites are taking million dollar a year salaries.

Or why our parents and grandparents are having to choose between the medicine they need to stay alive and paying for heat or groceries they can't afford?

How about emergency rooms treating simple illnesses because the patient can't afford health care and has no other choice?

What about $4.00 a gallon gas, while oil companies and their barons are raking in record profits?

Then lets not forget the homeless Iraq veterans who cannot get proper care and treatment in the current administration and are forced to sleep under bridges and beg for handouts. Why is the suicide rate amongst Iraq War Vets increasing at an alarming rate? Aren't these also casualties of war?

Forclosures on homes, even homes forced into that state because the Administration that created the Iraq war has taken one or both of the income earners and forced them to accept a lower income, so they can no longer meet their house payments?

Both Democratic candidates have plans to address these issues. But what does John McCain offer? Continuation of the Bush policies that got us into this state. More war, with a presence of --- perhaps forever --- in Iraq?

Perhaps there are some who see an advantage to McCain. I do not.

Posted by: Mickey | Jun 1, 2008 1:22:11 PM

If you cant vote for obama vote for ron paul !

Posted by: Kate | Jun 1, 2008 1:17:18 PM

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