Obama Campaign Clarifies "Martyr" Comments on OBL

Does Obama have any common sense? He's always "clarifying" himself because what he initially says makes him sound ignorant. It's pretty simple that not to make someone a Martyr involves not killing them.

".. its that kind of thinking that got us into this pathetic war on "terrorism" in the first place."

Over 3000 dead in New York got us into "this" war. If that is pathetic to you, you are on the wrong side. If understanding that means I am a redneck, call Jeff Foxworthy and tell him you found another one.

Iraq is a different war. Here I agree completely with Obama. That was dumb. But the dumb deed is done. We own the problem and that means all of us.

"I think we have to be at war for it to be considered for military court or as a combantant."

Have you been on a long journey to Jupiter for the last seven years? In case you missed the memo, we are at war with alQaeda. Unfortunately, we sat back and did nothing while that was used to justify the invasion of Iraq.

America elected him twice. Drop the self-righteous crap. As Colin Powell said, "You break it, you own it."

This isn't a Republican or Democratic war any more. It's an American war. Figuring out how to handle our role now is an issue. Trying to call it something other than it is to defend nutty positions isn't.

What can we believe? It seems that Mr. Obama's current position depends on whatever group he is speaking to at the moment. When questioned about it, his campaign rushes in and he gives a different version of whatever he originally said. An example is on his website where he states in numbers how he will remove our troops from Iraq. While his website says one thing, Aljazerra had a video from Mr. Zebari quoting Mr. Obama as telling him he wouldn't make any drastic or dangerous movement of US troops and would consult with him all along the way. Again, What to believe?

There is zero chance I will vote for Obama but do we really need to be wasting time trying to mitpick statements like this? Not that the Obama camp is any better but this kind of silly bickering is pointless.

No one has to paint Obama as anything. He has painted himself as a radical, socialist, fascist, extremist, and racist. Thats good enough for me. No more painting neccasary.

"Death, is not a penalty! Think about that!"

Great. On the next American Idol series, let's make sure the runner-up knows that after Simon lops his head off for the cameras.

The DNC is cringing over this one. Any savvy politician knows it is a third rail and avoids it. Hypotheticals that lift up the terrorists as victims of American actions or justice only serve to convince the voters that Obama and his supporters are really the creepy people the right believes they are.

An issue like this is the difference between winning the White House and having to sit in the last row at Yankee stadium wearing dark glasses so no one will recognize you.

>>Oregon4Obama Jun 19, 2008 4:20:55 PM<<

"Saddam Hussein was given a trial, then hanged...."

Imagine how the middle East would have reacted if that case and that decision had come about in an American Court!!!

"If he were to be tried, as many posters noted, it will be in military court as a combatant. How exactly do you think that will be portrayed in the Middle East?"

I think we have to be at war for it to be considered for military court or as a combantant. Considering that neither is true, we HAVE to use DUE PROCESS, just like any other person who blows up a building in this country.

"If captured, he will pursue the death penalty for him."

I feel so much better with Barry's record of standing on his principles.

The RIGHT to a FAIR Trial is the right for every American and any prisoner captured by the US and prisoner kept on US property.....

We have these laws in place to remove bias, hate, racism and fear from a scentencing or conviction...

Saddam Hussein was given a trial, then hanged....

Do you honestly believe that Al Qaeda sympathizers will think Bin Laden got a fair trial, regardless of who administers it or what the verdict is? Do you really? Wow. Just wow.

What? Do you mean to tell me that America's back? For those of you who don't understand what it means to take the moral high ground, offering a public trial even for people who will certainly be condemned to death, check out the movie about the Nuremburg trials. It's in black and white, but the pride you feel for your country while watching it is immense. Even those who don't like us look at such things and are unable to deny that there's something special about the American spirit.

Obama is your typical Politician a great actor, he will say and do everything he thinks you want him to say and do -UNTIL!

Yep keep asking for respect then call us bots, a cult, latte sippin elitist, um you know if you want respect you should show some. Also Hillary would not win without our 18 millon votes either. Goes both ways. so why don't we all grow up and work on one goal of gettind a dem in the WH.
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Do your part to bring the party together and petition for Hillary on the ticket. She's doing her part, give supporters a reason to get on board.

All you idiots can do is talk about what ifs....George Bush had a chance to catch Bin Laden and he failed... All Obama has to say is when we catch him, we will deal with him in appropriate terms. I am getting sick and tired of The Republicans parsing every word Obama speaks..... We still don't know what McCain would do.... we have a pretty good idea, but we can't be sure.

There's no pretzel here. He said it's important that the world, and expecially Al Qaeda sympathizers, see due process done so they can't bang the drum of martyrdom. He did not rule out capital punishment at the end of that, and in fact said it would be appropriate. What's so hard about that? Obama is perfectly clear. I don't know whether people here can't read

Americans are so embarrassing.

Some people are really really dumb.
Sigh.
It's not that hard to follow what Barack Obama is trying to say. OBVIOUSLY, Osama's death in the hands of Americans would cause great anger from people supporting Bin Laden. It might spurn them to unleash more anger towards Americans, kill Americans abroad and make their hate towards us grow.
I personally do not think that scumbag deserves to have a painless death OR to live after he has killed so many people. Both options would be way too easy on Bin Laden.
The only reason that Obama has to clarify everything he says is because everybody and their mothers seem to want to challenge every word he says. I know it's natural because he is running for President... but it's not because he stumbles over words or doesn't know what to say... it's because he has to dumb it down for everybody else to understand.
I wish people would just get over their own personal bias and united for the same cause.

It's dap not DAB. Is the only thing that Republicans can cling to is the phrase "flip flopper?" Also, what is wrong with a President who is nuanced, or "professorial?" Isnt the President supposed to be thoughtful, knowledgeable of the law, and insightful? Truth be told--making the OBLs of the world martyrs is EXACTLY what they want us to do.