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Obama Up In Swing States; Clinton Would Be a Drag with Indies
June 18, 2008 1:24 PM
Though it's only June, some big news from Quinnipiac:
Obama leads McCain among likely voters in key swing states Florida (47-43), Ohio (48-42) and Pennsylvania (52-40).
"In the three states, Obama leads McCain 10 to 23 percentage points among women, while men are too close to call. The Democrat trails among white voters in Florida and Ohio, but gets more than 90 percent of black voters in each state. He also has double-digit leads among young voters in each state."
Says Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute: "Sen. Obama is certainly not out of the woods, but these results are a good indication that he enters the summer slightly ahead in the race to be the next president."
And what of Clinton on the ticket?
Bad call, says Brown. "The people who really matter come November - independent voters - turn thumbs down on the idea. And, many say they are less likely to vote for him if he puts her on the ticket."
Florida Democrats want Clinton on the ticket 57 - 33 percent …and Florida independents oppose the idea 46 - 37 percent;
Ohio Democrats want Clinton on the ticket 58 - 31 percent...and Ohio independents say "No way, Jose," 47 - 31 percent;
Pennsylvania Democrats want Clinton on the ticket 60 - 31 percent…and Pennsylvania independents don't, 49 - 36 percent.
- jpt
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Hey Kim,
Thanks for voting for McCain and voting AGAINST EVERYTHING HILLARY STAND FOR!
Posted by: Cooley | Jun 19, 2008 10:23:34 AM
"Explain to me how drilling our waters brings down the price?"
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For argument sake lets say that the democrats are correct and it is speculators that are driving up the price of oil. Speculators drive up the price of oil by buying it now in anticipation of selling it for more in the future (in essence they are hording oil, if only on paper). If we have more supply coming on line in the future they will not be able to sell that oil for as much in the future and as a consequence have less incentive to buy oil now. This will put more oil in the market now, thus bringing down the price.
Posted by: zip | Jun 19, 2008 8:37:24 AM
Hillary has just the right combination of strength and compassion, grace and grit, intelligence and appeal. No man or woman, before or after her, can hope to win the hearts and minds of such a broad and diverse coalition of Americans as she has. I have no doubt the DNC passed up on a once in a lifetime president. Now, it seems, Barack wants to derail her from the VP slot, too. If he were truly a unifier and man of hope as he claims, he would show more courage in working closely with his former rival. Is he afraid of her intelligence, her charisma, and her ability to garner as many votes as he has? His VP choice shall reveal a lot more about him. For many Clinton supporters who already doubt his strength and integrity, his VP decision is the last and final test of whether they will commit their vote to him. Some other Clinton supporters may fall in line with the party and just vote for him b/c the political climate seems to warrant no other choice. However, wouldn't it be better for him, even if he became president, to have behind him a more passionate, concerted coalition of supporters?
Posted by: Everest | Jun 19, 2008 3:22:24 AM
I have no idea who these people polled, but in NorthWest Georgia and Southern Tennessee, I do not know anyone voting for Hussein Obama or John McCain. Admittedly, the lessor of two evils comments prevail in conversations as no one in this area feels we have a worthy candidate for president. Also, it would not be a good idea for Howard Dean or Nancy Pelosi to run for dog-catcher in this area after the way he has behaved and shoved Hussein down our throats and dished Mrs. Clinton for months. Furhter, Al Gore ruined his political career this week when he basically slapped the Clinton's in the face. The majority of people I know, work with, and associate with are joining the band-wagon and are planning to vote for neither Hussein nor John but rather plan to write-in their vote for Hillary Clinton ... including myself.
Posted by: volboi | Jun 18, 2008 9:36:27 PM
If they really want the numbers they should go to a beauty shop.
In Florida the majority of women voters I talk to will not vote for Obama or McCain.
They will either write in , or not vote.
NOT VOTING IS A CHOICE FOR US> NO MORE PICKING THE LESS OF TWO EVILS>
Posted by: Who Knows So What Who Cares | Jun 18, 2008 9:05:34 PM
Debra, oh please it wasn't about the Clintons.
Posted by: erin | Jun 18, 2008 6:57:37 PM
I'm watching Tim Russert's son Luke, hug Hillary at his dad's memorial service and the camera is on she and Bill like no other politicans. The news just isn't as exciting with the Clinton's not around. Media still eats them up...here I'm watching MSNBC and the camera wont's leave the Clintons.
Posted by: Debra | Jun 18, 2008 5:54:01 PM
@joe: The future's not ours to see. Que sera sera.
Posted by: len | Jun 18, 2008 4:57:40 PM
len what are you talking about Hillary is not going to be president maybe vp but never the big P
Posted by: Joe | Jun 18, 2008 4:13:17 PM
No surprise that Hillary would have been a drag. Her old-timey "I'm a fighter" politics are a relic of the past. Most Independents want a new level of discourse and Hillary would not have provided it.
Posted by: Howard, New York | Jun 18, 2008 3:55:15 PM
"Explain to me how drilling our waters brings down the price? It takes 10 years to bring to market..."
No one surfs by swimming behind the wave.
Besides, in ten years gas prices will be falling during Hillary Clinton's second term as President.
Of course, my car will be running on evaporated milk by then. My neighbor will be out blowing the leaves off his driveway. The kneepads help a lot they say.
Posted by: len | Jun 18, 2008 3:55:00 PM
Up on what monkey bars?
Posted by: comicrelief | Jun 18, 2008 3:42:32 PM
LOL!!! Thas funny as hell Hp! Or they hate the celtics! Oh!
Posted by: Joe | Jun 18, 2008 3:31:28 PM
Did use see the GOP produce buttons that say.. If obama is pres... can we still call it the white house..
Fear mongering racists= GOP
Posted by: Joe | Jun 18, 2008 3:20:41 PM
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The WH has been filthy, dirty, putrid for 8 YEARS!
Posted by: HP Boston | Jun 18, 2008 3:22:39 PM
Well maybe they are POED about the basketball court being first priority!
Posted by: HP Boston | Jun 18, 2008 3:29:56 PM
Explain to me how drilling our waters brings down the price? It takes 10 years to bring to market and besides the oil companies do have 68 millon acres to drill offshore that they are not even touching. It isn't a matter of supply the oil compainies are sticking a knife in our backs.
Posted by: Joe | Jun 18, 2008 3:26:59 PM
Did use see the GOP produce buttons that say.. If obama is pres... can we still call it the white house..
Fear mongering racists= GOP
Posted by: Joe | Jun 18, 2008 3:20:41 PM
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The WH has been filthy dirty putrid for 8 YEARS!
Posted by: HP Boston | Jun 18, 2008 3:22:39 PM
You'd be surprised at what a few well timed ads can do to a person's poll numbers. He's no longer in the comfortable vacuum of the Democratic party. It's time to sink or swim, and with pastor wright and the rest of his baggage on his back, I hope that he doesn't have to swim too far.
Posted by: Mack | Jun 18, 2008 3:15:32 PM
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OH MY GOD THE GUY CAN'T SWIM!!!
Posted by: HP Boston | Jun 18, 2008 3:21:01 PM
"Len their have been 80 significant environmental "accidents" with the off shore oil rigs in the past couple of years."
Good. A hard claim is made.
Ok, show the citations. If we are to debate, where are the accidents cited and explained?
Let's look!
Posted by: len | Jun 18, 2008 3:20:48 PM
Did use see the GOP produce buttons that say.. If obama is pres... can we still call it the white house..
Fear mongering racists= GOP
Posted by: Joe | Jun 18, 2008 3:20:41 PM
Well as a Clinton supporter I guess it doesn't matter if I vote for Obama, so I will just vote for John McCain. I am one of 18 million that will not matter.
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Me too. The Obama people need to unite the party and not put it all on Hillary. Hey Obama people petition to have Hillary put on the ticket. You want us to come your way, give us a reason.
Posted by: FairPlay | Jun 18, 2008 3:20:38 PM
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