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Pro-Clinton Group Ad to Superdelegates: "You're Still Not Listening"

June 03, 2008 8:57 AM

The group "Women Count PAC" has a newspaper ad today that tells superdelegates "You're Still Not Listening. Our Votes Are Our Voices."

"HEAR THIS: Hillary Clinton won the popular vote. More people voted for her than any primary candidate in American history…"

This claim is only true, by the way, if you award Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-Illinois, more than 300,000 votes from Michigan and give Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, zero votes from that state.

"AND THIS: More than 21 million women voted in this primary. That's 14 million more than the 7 million who voted in 2004. That's not only a 200 percent increase -- that's a lot of women…Like Hillary, we do not back down and we do not quit…You are about to make the most important decision of your life. The future of America's children is at stake. This moment must transcend politics.

"Superdelegates, look at the facts. The voters have spoken. And remember, this is not about you. It's about us."

- jpt

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It so disturbs me that the article cites to "21 million women" who came out, and suggests that we all supported Hillary. I'm a 51 year old Caucasian woman who has supported Barack Obama from the outset. I know so many women, some as old as 80, who support Barack Obama. This group is "hijacking" us by pretending that we support their divisive efforts! Women who support Obama need to speak up.

Posted by: Pamela | Jun 4, 2008 10:37:59 AM

Oh my, the Obama supporters and surrogates first insulted us with vile name calling and remarks and now they are trying to put a guilt trip with "blood on your hands" as the war in Iraq will continue with McCain as pres. and fear tactics with roe v wade will be overturned.

Please understand that most of us Hillary supporters have enough political commons sense to know that no candidate will be able to end the war in Iraq as we would like. As for roe v wade, your comments are insulting and childish, women fought that battle long and hard for years, women like Hillary, we owe that one to HER. And , unless you have no concept of the recent political situation, especially during the Reagan years (yes, the same man that Obama so admires) many of us had to carried on the fight to keep our right to choose.

Posted by: roberta | Jun 3, 2008 7:31:48 PM

to deborah

Obama did not say the delegates did not matter, it should be the popular vote Hillary said that after she was behind in the delegate count.

Besides, she would have a hard time in the states with caucuses since according to her "they do not matter".

Noting supporting the nominee is not a vote against Obama but your family.

Posted by: NavyMom | Jun 3, 2008 4:42:27 PM

The comments here are pretty darn surreal. Somehow we democrats have decided that liberal is a bad word. Somehow we have decided that those who have played by the rules, are now going to be punished, because our candidate did not play by the rules. One even says that we should vote for a brand called Clinton and the Obama supporters just do not get it. (Remember what voting a brand name got us in 2000.) I have even heard Obama branded as a Socialist. Strange as it may seem to all of you red baiters, Obama is nowhere near being a socialist.
This is where I lose faith in my fellow party members. Don't be fooled into believing Right wing rhetoric. Take a close look at the candidates records, their message, their campaign. Take the time to research what they are about. Take time to research and debunk the propaganda that is flying around the internet. You have time to rant here, so you have time to use Google to look for reputable sources, not right wing smear sites. It just takes a moment of your time. Then make a rational decision about the future of this country. Calm down, maybe have a drink, it really is that easy. We have a country to take back, not a personality to endorse or a brand to redeem. We are a family of Americans that has been deceived and robbed from for 8 years. We have lost our good name. We need to redeem it for ourselves and our children.
It's time to beat McCain, not destroy our party.

Posted by: Fortyver | Jun 3, 2008 4:36:59 PM

Remember when Obama was leading in the vote and Hillary in the SP's, and the Obama supporters were saying the delegates don't count, it's the popular vote that counts?

And when Donna Brazile threatened to resign the Democratic Part if the superdelegates decided the election, going against the popular will?

Creating huge moral pressure on the SP's to jump on the "most popular" candidate...

According to RealClearPolitics, even if we give ALL the "uncommitted" from MI to Obama, Hillary leads by 65,555.

Posted by: Deborah | Jun 3, 2008 4:23:23 PM

What's that? A new poll shows Obama can beat mccain! What's that - now she want to be VP on the Obama ticket!

On the same day Barack Obama could clinch the Democratic nomination for president, a new poll out Tuesday shows the Illinois senator holds a slight lead over presumptive Republican nominee John McCain among likely voters nationwide.

The new USA Today/Gallup survey shows the Illinois senator with a 5 point advantage over McCain among likely voters, 49 percent to 44 percent. That margin is just outside the poll's 4 point margin of error, meaning Obama appears to hold a slight advantage over the Arizona senator with five months remaining until voters weigh in at the polls.

The survey shows Hillary Clinton also leads McCain, though with a margin that is just with the poll's sampling error. According to the survey, the New York senator bests McCain by 4 points, 48 percent to 44 percent.

A similar poll conducted by USA Today/Gallup last month showed John McCain beating both candidates — a potential sign the ongoing Democratic presidential race has not hurt the party's chances in November.

Sen. Hillary Clinton is willing to take the vice presidential slot on a Barack Obama presidential ticket, New York lawmakers told CNN.

CNN first reported Monday that Clinton was signaling the Obama campaign of her interest.

Two New York lawmakers told CNN's Candy Crowley that Clinton told them she was open to being Obama's running mate during a conference call.

One of the lawmakers said that former President Bill Clinton has been pushing the idea privately for several weeks.

Posted by: 08demo | Jun 3, 2008 4:19:43 PM

REMEMBER when Mr. Obama was winning the popular vote and Ms. Clinton said the popular vote does not and should not count?? That only the Super Delegates should count!! It's always the same with HER, whatever it takes for HER personal gain/accomplishments. Well, another example of why Ms. Clinton's "pit-bull" tactics are not good for America,Women or the Democrats.

Posted by: TxDem | Jun 3, 2008 4:01:39 PM

That isn't true. Hillary is still the popular vote winner, even if you include those who voted 'undecided' in Michigan. The exit polls showed that 170,000 of those people favored Obama, and even if you give Obama those votes, he still comes out behind.

Posted by: rstephen | Jun 3, 2008 3:59:58 PM

I you Clinton supporters throw your little hissy fit and vote for McCain, then you will have the blood on your hands of all the servicemen and women who will die as a consequence of the continued Occupation of Iraq. Not to mention his threat to, "Bomb, bomb, bomb" Iran.

Agree with Roe V Wade? Kiss that goodbye. Mr. John Sidney McCain III will get to appoint one to three Supreme Court Justices and he has promised to submit Alito/Roberts/Scalia type candidates.

So think long, long and very hard before you cast that ballot for John Sidney McCain III, Republican, out of spite just because your candidate finished a close second instead of first. This is a time to put party and country before personal feelings.

Posted by: Unrepentant Liberal | Jun 3, 2008 3:53:27 PM

Hoosier Sue- I'm glad you feel that we should keep staying in the middle in of the road...but think first about where the middle of the road has placed us. It's time for some new thought...no more worn out governmental jiberish like we have had the passed twenty years...it's time ot move forward with ideas for a new generation.

I'm glad Clinton is about to concede...whether tonight or any other night, she'll concede. And in the end we'll all be better off knowing that we have a chance to have a president that thinks outside the box for once.

Posted by: Eric | Jun 3, 2008 3:46:59 PM

When the half of the Democrats who voted for McCain in November are asked why, they can just explain that they got the idea from Barry Obama ... they voted Republican for a Day.

Posted by: beebop | Jun 3, 2008 3:29:52 PM

The MATH that the media and Obama supporters ignore is that Clinton got about HALF of the votes of the Democratic Party primary voters.
The delegates get to nominate, that's how it works. But for the life of me I cannot understand how people dismiss the significance of the votes of half the Democrats.
When has there been a primary where the two candidates were so CLOSE in delegates at this point? When has a candidate dropped out when they were this close!
If the country is ready for a change and will vote Democratic what is the huge worry? McClellan just did the Democrats a huge favor by reinforcing what most Americans already suspected about the integrity of the Bush administration.
I'd be more impressed with the Obama supporters if they had enough confidence in their candidate and his message to be able to acknowledge that he only narrowly got more delegates.
I'd be more impressed if they weren't so panicky about letting the process work itself out.

Posted by: ClareA | Jun 3, 2008 2:59:04 PM

I agree with a lot of posters here that are pro-Hillary = this thing was a done deal by insiders. Democrats ate their own to put the next puppet boy Bush V2 (yes I mean Obama - there's NO difference in these characters - young, affable, men of the people, common man types, full of hope, uniters... what they are is puppets for the real controlling factions who put them there, and who will get what they want in return.)

We won't forget. Those of us who used to believe in free elections, decided by the people, not by brown-shirt thug tactics (yes, Obama camp, I mean you).

Today I go to the polls to vote against my house rep Lois Capps. After looking my 11 year old daughter in the eye last year, and encouraging her to be president, she endorsed Obama.

I hope she loses today. Those SDs need to realize that they can be voted out when the country wakes up to how they handed this to Obama over our will.

Posted by: sharonevolving | Jun 3, 2008 2:58:46 PM

I haven't seen TREACHERY on this scale since "Braveheart" was on cable last. Sen.Clinton should RETURN THE FAVOR to Kennedy,Daley,Pelosi,Dean& Brazille ala' 1980 Convention Redux. To even consider voting Republican after learning they manipulated the open primaries,would be tough (no matter how much I like Sen. McCain )though that remains an option.

Posted by: patrick | Jun 3, 2008 2:51:33 PM

What time is HoosierSue due back at the comedy club?

Posted by: Wayne | Jun 3, 2008 2:49:45 PM

Tww says "Nader".

Definitely a better choice that the left wing's favorite puppet!

Posted by: A | Jun 3, 2008 2:44:09 PM

Getahun Leta

I guess most democrats don't share your theory of a woman's equal rights. Just look at all the cheap hate that her opponents followers has tossed her way.

No respect -- no feeling of equal rights. You don't need tea leaves to figure that one out.

Posted by: A | Jun 3, 2008 2:22:32 PM

Molly W, even though I suspect we disagree politics-wise on a number of issues, I give you points for making solid arguments.

Posted by: Johnson | Jun 3, 2008 2:14:20 PM

The problem is not that the Clinton supporters are being sore losers. The problem is that Obama should have run on an independent socialist ticket, but chose to use the power of the democratic party instead. This has split the party into radicals v. mainstream. From that standpoint, he and Clinton have less in common that Clinton and McCain do. Obama supporters will never be able to wrap their minds around that, which is understandable since apparently the dem party leadership is suffering from the same blindness. We need a new Populist party headed by candidates like Clinton and McCain, the mainstreamers who hug the middle where they can unite the most Americans. Leave the radicals to the dems and the moralists to the right.

Posted by: HoosierSue | Jun 3, 2008 2:01:50 PM

Tim Osburn

People who vote party regardless of anything else just don't understand issues. You and yours live in a very simple world indeed!

Posted by: A | Jun 3, 2008 1:59:17 PM

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