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Pro-Clinton Group Ad to Superdelegates: "You're Still Not Listening"

June 03, 2008 8:57 AM

The group "Women Count PAC" has a newspaper ad today that tells superdelegates "You're Still Not Listening. Our Votes Are Our Voices."

"HEAR THIS: Hillary Clinton won the popular vote. More people voted for her than any primary candidate in American history…"

This claim is only true, by the way, if you award Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-Illinois, more than 300,000 votes from Michigan and give Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, zero votes from that state.

"AND THIS: More than 21 million women voted in this primary. That's 14 million more than the 7 million who voted in 2004. That's not only a 200 percent increase -- that's a lot of women…Like Hillary, we do not back down and we do not quit…You are about to make the most important decision of your life. The future of America's children is at stake. This moment must transcend politics.

"Superdelegates, look at the facts. The voters have spoken. And remember, this is not about you. It's about us."

- jpt

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I'm a middle-aged woman, and I hope all of your "I'll vote for McCain" women remember the following:

1) I hope you enjoy sending your children to all of the wars that McCain wants to start, like Iran. Mine are going to stay home, but hey, you vote for him? You fight the war.

2) I hope you can look your daughters in the eye and tell them they can't get a legal abortion because you thought it was too important to vote for the Republican rather than the candidate who really won the Democratic race, just because it wasn't your candidate.

3) I hope you have plenty of money to send to victims of hurricanes, tornadoes, wildfires, etc., when global warming worsens all of those weather-related disasters, because McCain's never going to do anything about them.

True feminism means having the autonomy to make a real choice. Just parroting the lies of the Clinton campaign is not feminism. Look at the definitive vote totals on RealClear politics. Clinton did NOT get a majority of the popular vote. Just because she said so doesn't make it so.

Posted by: Molly Weasley | Jun 3, 2008 1:58:16 PM

I am almost sixty and have been a democrat for my whole life. I can never remember a single democratic campaign where Democrats screamed that they wouldn't vote for the candidate who won their nomination because ... well, pick any one of dozens of reasons, real and imagined. It tells me that there is something else at work here. Obama's positions and Senator Clinton's positions are not very different. So if an election is about electing someone to enact policy you support, how could you ever turn your back on the candidate that actually has the positions you supposedly support. What does all this mean?

I used to be a big supporter of Bill Clinton, with all his faults. But what has happened to them here in 2008? What really counts? I think Obama can win, and I have given him money. I guess that makes me a koolaid drinker for people like Debra. I believe in my candidate. How that offends her. How that offends her. Yet, I don't believe her candidate can win. All my republican friends have been talking about Bill's little friend Monica Lewinsky all this last year. I was totally dreading that.

And I worry that this is really about racism in america. Hillary won big in the south. Those are not states she would win in the general. So, if she were to win wouldn't that be letting the endemic longterm racism of the american south dictate that we can't have someone in office simply because he is mixed blood and they are scared of their own kharma.

This is bad, people. This is very very bad. I only hope those "democrats" who vote for McCain will rejoice when he puts another Alito and Roberts on the Supreme Court and Women's rights take hit after hit. That is what voting for McCain will actually do.

Posted by: Tim Osburn | Jun 3, 2008 1:56:41 PM

This just goes beyond outrageous, and it would appear that somewhere it might be illegal.

Take note on what those final vote totals for Montanaon MSNBC say, and see if that's what they end up saying at the end of the night. If they do, then it would appear something has been FIXED.

How dare the long arm of corrupt Chicago politics extend into the beautiful state of Montana.......

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they took it off but i have a screen shot of that.
it IS ILLEGAL and people go to JAIL for doing that!

media gone absolutely MAD MAD MAD

Posted by: Average Joe | Jun 3, 2008 1:56:15 PM

Well, now according to the MSNBC website, the Associated Press has decided Obama has enough delegates.

I guess they're already counting the future Montana victory they've already called.

Posted by: SandyB | Jun 3, 2008 1:55:02 PM

GrandmaCDA

Obama DOES NOT represent the average democrat. Far from it!

Posted by: Just Curious | Jun 3, 2008 1:54:46 PM

I agree that the news media has been 'pushing' a lot of the hype about both candidates. It's their job. They talk politics. It does NOT make them right or more knowledgable; it simply means they have access to instant media and nothing more.

That having been said, I'm hoping that once the magic number is reached (whenever that may be - tonight or tomorrow or the next day) - that ALL Democrats will unite to defeat Senator McCain in November.

Yes, there are a lot of hurt feelings and anger right now. And yes, a lot of things have been said against both candidates that upset me as well, but the time will be coming in the next fews days to take reaffirm our beliefs and stand unified against the Republicans.

Please, accept my sincere best wishes for those who worked so hard on Senator Clinton's campaign. Losing doesn't feel good. I can only imagine how they must feel right now as I've worked as hard to support my candidate.

But, please know that I believe both Senator Obama and Senator Clinton believe in the Democratic party and it's ideals. Take your time to grieve and be sad. But please do not be beaten by the process.

When you're ready, please come back to the party that believes the Bush legacy has to end with this final term! No third term for the Bush/McCain folks. None of us can survive another four years of such disregard for the very basic of human rights.

With respect and regards to all Democratic Supporters,

Grandma CDA

Posted by: GrandmaCDA | Jun 3, 2008 1:49:26 PM

A, everybody else is "childish" and "juvenile," yet you're a grownup even though you lump all Obama voters, men and women alike, into one category. Okay.

Posted by: Johnson | Jun 3, 2008 1:44:26 PM

Well, my not voting for Obama was already a fact of life.

This just goes beyond outrageous, and it would appear that somewhere it might be illegal.

Take note on what those final vote totals for Montanaon MSNBC say, and see if that's what they end up saying at the end of the night. If they do, then it would appear something has been FIXED.

How dare the long arm of corrupt Chicago politics extend into the beautiful state of Montana.......

Posted by: SandyB | Jun 3, 2008 1:43:29 PM

I noticed that on the MSNBC website too. I couldn't figure out why on earth they would post results showing 100% when the polls are still open.

This is absolutely ridiculous.

Hillary, as well as the voters in South Dakota and Montana should file lawsuits against the media.

This is just outrageous. Bad enough when the networks used to call presidential elections on the east coast at 7 p.m. EDT after THEIR polls closed, before people in the western states had finished voting, but the polls haven't even been open half a day yet.

Can't something be done about this??

Posted by: SandyB | Jun 3, 2008 1:34:49 PM

Average Joe

Sorry David -- wrong poster.

Posted by: S | Jun 3, 2008 1:33:31 PM

David

Please stop with the capital letters.

Posted by: S | Jun 3, 2008 1:32:34 PM

Major Hillary Clinton supporter Sen. Dianne Feinstein said Tuesday the final primaries mark a “moment of truth” for the New York senator, who should end her campaign.

The California senator also repeated her view that Clinton should be tapped for the vice presidency.

“I think after the campaigns are wrapped up today, it is in fact a moment of truth,” Feinstein told CNN. “I think a decision has to be made about whether keeping this nomination wide open is in the best interest of winning in November. I do not believe that it is, and I’m a very strong supporter of Hillary being placed on ticket as a vice presidential candidate.”

Feinstein, who endorsed Clinton last summer, has resisted calls for her to use her influence to convince the White House hopeful to abandon her presidential bid, although she said last month that the protracted primary contest was making for dangerous friction within the party.

“The reason I say this is because each one of them represents a different constituency. The constituencies are knocking heads at the present time,” said Feinstein.

Posted by: 08demo | Jun 3, 2008 1:29:39 PM

Just heard Whoopi on THE VIEW and they corrected themselves....Clinton campaign called in to correct them on the AP wire. SHE IS NOT CONCEDING TONIGHT. THANK GOD.

Posted by: Debra | Jun 3, 2008 1:29:25 PM

I am sickened by the vitriol. Sadly, none of this existed before Hillary Clinton's chances of winning began to slip seriously. With each successive loss, her rhetoric, and that of her supporters, grew more destructive. Molehills became mountains because Hillary and her crew threw dirt on them.

Ever since she realized she was losing, Hillary's approach as been "divide and conquer" with the expectation that we could reunite after the nomination. Alas, that reunification doesn't seem so likely anymore.

Posted by: David | Jun 3, 2008 1:21:56 PM

common sense

And just what is a democrat? Are they all left-wing radicals like your little puppet? I think not. A substantial number of Hillary supporters will not fall for your Democrats 'über allen' logic and will vote for the better candidate. I have a feeling you won't be too pleased by the results.

Posted by: S | Jun 3, 2008 1:19:41 PM

Obama's big win were BEFORE FARRAKHAN, WRIGHT, AYERS, PFLEGER, ANGRY MICHELLE.....ALL BEFORE WE LEARNED MORE ABOUT HIM. Does anyone really think he'd be where he is with just his billionaire liberals behind him? It helps they've wanted to buy this for him for their own agenda....but Presidency can't be bought, even if he outspends John McCain 4 to 1 like he did in all those states Hillary won over him.

Posted by: Debra | Jun 3, 2008 1:17:32 PM

This primary has been very historic in
in scope and I'm glad I was a part of it. My family has been a Clinton supporter since the 1992 election. The reason so many people are so passionate for Hillary is because it's generational. Both my mother and father are gone now but they would be happy about the primary. I don't know who they might of voted for but it may have been Hillary. I find Obama supporters don't understand Hillary supporters at all. It's not just about whose message is better, it's about the brand name. Whether Obama supporters want to believe this or not, they brought about a lot of positive changes when they were in the WH. So, the passion for the Clintons will always be there and I'm afraid that Obama will have a hard time convincing people to come over to his side especially the way she has been treated during this campaign.

Posted by: Louise | Jun 3, 2008 1:17:14 PM

not only does Women Count PAC take out a full page ad trying to blackmail SD's but they also use staff and volunteers to flood this comments section w inane pro Hillary distortions and lies. You know, the Bosnia routine. Transparent and lame. If the Clinton campaign had recognized the fund raising and communicative powers of the internet sooner than the day before the last primary, they might have had a chance to win this thing.

Posted by: rick | Jun 3, 2008 1:10:11 PM

I find it painful to witness how so many women are making such fools of themselves this year.

Obama has won the popular vote, a large majority of states and delegates...

Please return to earth, and leave that silly realm of hysteria.

Posted by: maria | Jun 3, 2008 1:08:07 PM

Yes, our votes are our voices. As close as this race was Senator Barack Obama has won the most states, the most delegates and even the popular vote. The majority is slight but it is still a majority.

Time for the Democrats to take back the country. For our children. For our grandchildren. It isn't about you. It is about us.

Just because you think you should have won doesn't mean you actually did win. So now apply the reasoning to your own situation. Oooops I forgot who I was talking to. No reasoning or logic there.

Posted by: Ohenry | Jun 3, 2008 1:05:51 PM

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