Scenes from a Divorce

I have zero respect for any Clinton supporter who would even CONSIDER voting for McCain. I am an Obama supporter and have been since before he entered the race, but I deeply respect Sen. Clinton, and would gladly vote for her if she is the Dem nominee. I'd be disappointed, but I would have the honesty to see that she is VERY, VERY similar on about 99% of Obama's policy positions, and if I couldn't have him, Hillary is the closest candidate in terms of core principles. McCain on the other hand is a deal breaker. He is a died in the wool conservative, and would lead the country 180 degrees AWAY from almost all of Clinton's treasured positions. Any person who TRULY supports Clinton and believes in the things she believes in should be HORRIFIED at the prospect of a McCain presidency. I guarantee you Hillary and Bill are, and if they don't manage to win the nomination, I promise they will actively campaign to seat a Democrat in the White House. You have problems with Obama? Okay. But for any REAL criticism you have of him, I promise you, McCain is worse. After 8 Bush years, are you REALLY prepared to vote GOP? SHAME. Threatening to vote for McCain if your first choice isn't nominated is the worst kind of sour grapes, and sounds like the old school yard whine, "if I can't have my way, I'm taking my ball and going home!"

As a lifelong democrat active in party politics for 30 years hillary is the only democrat that can win... If Obama is nominated I will not only vote for John M

If the Big H is so sure of herself...

Why didn't she run for POTUS as an independent in the first place?

Once again, Hillary is changing the rules to suit herself. She is cut from the same cloth as her LYING, IMPEACHED from POTUS husban, Bill ("I did not have sexual relations with that woman") Clinton.

Anyone but Hillary '8

If Hillary runs as an Indep, she will prove she has 1 thing in mind - herself only ! This would result in her carving-off enough Obama votes so McCain wins in November. That way in 2012 she can run again and expect to kick McCain out. Wow, what a sell-out to the Dem Party she has become. She needs to quit and support Obama when he gets the 2118 votes this week so we do not get Bush's 3rd termer (McCain) instead of focusing on her personal ambitions over the Dem Party's !!!

OneFloridaVoter -- If you don't even know the facts about your own state, then you shouldn't be complaining about the outcome. Your state is NOT a winner-take-all state. None of the states in the Democratic primaries were winner-take-all. In fact, you couldn't have an election where some states would be proportional and some would be winner-take-all. If you don't even understand how your state works, why in the world should anybody listen to your complaints? Do you have a better solution than the one which the RBC came up with? If you do, then offer it up. If you don't, then your side needs to quit their non-stop bellyaching. FL and MI lawmakers put you into the position you're in, not the DNC. Despite whatever Ickes, McAuliffe, and HRC herself say, it is the lawmaker that caused the problem in the first place, not the DNC.

On the news this morning, obama is being very, very conciliatory - of course, he is actually stating that Hillary will campaign for him. What an arrogant, self-centered, manipulator.
Where did this person come from? Sneering, smirking, nose up in the air - terrible associates, terrible anti-American relationship. TERRIBLE supposed "religious" leaders spewing hate, hate, hate from a church pulpit. I didn't think that any church in America would ever do that.
This is what the DNC wants to be elected president? No - it won't happen.
You need to understand that obama has paid off all the super delegates to endorse him. He has the monetary support from not only oprah, but many, many more wealthy people WHO KNOW THAT OBAMA CAN BE MANIPULATED to their will. Obama will never be a his own man. He is too bought out and paid for.
All he has accomplished is forming a cult with the support of oprah. obama, will never change a thing except to further embellish his wealthy supporters.
If obama is nominated, the election goes to John McCain. I will vote for McCain if obama is nominated.

To OneFloridaVoter - Florida is NOT winner takes all for the DNC. That is the case for the GOP. Are you really a Dem ? If you were, you'd know this !

HILLARY IM DONE WITH THE DEMS, RUN AS AN INDEPENDENT -YOU GOT MY VOTE !!!!!!

You Clinton supporters are fools. She has you fooled again. Remember she agreed to the terms of Mich and FLA not being seated in the beginning because she thought she was going to beat Obama hands down. Now that she is losing she thinks every vote should count. That's garbage. Rules are rules. She claims to be sympathetic to Mich and FLA, only because it will help her. She doesn't care about anyone but power. We have had enough of Bush and enough of Clinton. Thanks to both of them we are in the position we are in today.

You know, comments by both Wright and Pfleger are not far off the mark!

I'm sorry, but I see division in America, even if some of you don't, and it started with HRC.

It's not that we've been told these things by the Clintons, Jake.

We're not dumb women that need to be told things. Give us a little more credit and give the Clintons and their surrogates a break.

We were able to figure out all on our own that Obama is a BS artist, that he's got more sizzle than steak, that he's got more ambition than experience and that the press has all but given him a free ride.

We're the smart ones here and nothing will change that. It's going to be really sad when everyone else wakes up and realizes how foolish they've been.

Up until Saturday, I had a mental image of what the fanatical Clinton supporters would look & behave like and boy, the did not disappoint! What happened to the expected "thousands of women"? It appeared to be about 20 ill-behaved, nut jobs. Kind of sad but certainly emblematic of her campaign. T

How is this even close to right? Florida is a winner take all state in the primaries, and now the DNC has cut our vote in half. . . and given some to the loser, obama? I have never voted Repub before, but I am so disgusted with the DNC shoving this man of bitter faith down my throat and pretending it is the will of the people I will vote McCain is Clinton is not the nominee. Hillary, hear our cry, RUN INDEPENDENT!

Rodney,
you are speaking the language of the detractors of Clinton.
Maybe you are young, I don't know, and haven't gone through the whole history of the Clinton years. You should read various articles and get informed before using the lexicon that is not even yours because you have not forged your own thinking.

The democrats screwed up the primaries this time. Yes. Anyone who equates this with Zimbabwe clearly doesn't have any concept of what is going on in the world. To compare FL and MI to roving gangs of people murdering opposition with machetes need a reality check. Don't forget CLINTON WAS ALL FOR DISENFRANCHISING MI AND FL UNTIL THE RACE GOT UNCOMFORTABLY CLOSE.

To all of you who think that Obama has gotten nothing but a free ride from the media: Think back to the early days of this overly drawn-out campaign. Hillary led in the polls, the media was all over her. Obama was just an after-thought, an honorable mention for doing his best. And then then he comes from behind and sweeps several primary contests. I don't think that's favoritism. That's reporting. He gained momentum, and the media jumped all over it. Hillary gained back some of hers, and they were right back with her. And now that Obama has the lead (unquestionably), they're focusing on him and McCain because the general election is less than 6 months away. The way I see it, that's what you call journalism. So stop whining. If you don't like what you're reading, don't read it.

But that bitter hag (who I used to support) decided that because she's fallen behind, she will break rules that she agreed to. She decided to try to change those rules. She's decided that, basically, rules don't matter - just that she wins. I have no respect for a candidate, woman or man, black or white, who feels they are above the rules. And she calls Obama an elitist. I praise Obama for being the bigger person. If the roles were reversed, Hillary would be outraged that he was trying to do what she's currently doing.

So fight your fight, do what it takes. In the end, no matter which candidate is the nominee I will support the Democratic ticket, because either candidate will be a better choice for this country than McCain.

UNDISPUTED FACTS:

1. Hillary won in 17 large, mostly BLUE states (and 297 electoral college votes) Democrats have any realistic chance of winning – Arizona (10), Arkansas (6), California (55), Nevada (5), New York (31), New Jersey (15), Texas (34), Tennessee (11), Ohio (20), Florida (27), Michigan (17), Pennsylvania (21), Kentucky (8), New Mexico (5), Massachusetts (12), West Virginia (5), Indiana (11), Rhode Island (4), and Puerto Rico (Commonwealth).

2. She already proves she can take 297 electoral votes. To become president you need only 270.

3. These mostly BLUE states have the majority of the Electoral College votes - which determines the presidency.

4. Unfortunately, Obama won in mostly RED states where mostly GOP out number democrats 3:1 - so it's Gore, Kerry, and McGovern all over again.

5. Obama won in the Republican majority RED states of Alaska (3), Oregon (11), Washington (7), Idaho (4), Utah (5), Colorado (3), Wyoming (9), Oklahoma (7), Kansas (6), Nebraska (5), North Dakota (3), Minnesota (10), Wisconsin (10), Illinois (21), Alabama (9), Mississippi (6), Louisiana (9), Georgia (8), North Carolina (15), Virginia (13), Hawaii (4), DC (3), Connecticut (7), Maine (4), Vermont (4), Delaware (3), and Maryland (10).

6. Even if Obama won all these RED states all he has are 199 electoral votes. Well short 270 needed.

Therefore, as we much as we once respected Obama, until he didn’t offer Hillary the VP spot to unify the party, he is not going to beat McCain.

I am a FL voter who has been disenfrancised by the Democratic Party. The only reason the Dems here in FL voted for the primary date to be moved up is because the Republicans in our state decided that they would attach the date change to the bill requiring a paper trail on all voting machines. This is a bill that Floridians have wanted ever since the 2000 recount debacle. The democrats in our legilature are outnumbered two to one by the Republicans. Gov. Crist threatened to veto the entire bill if we tried to amend the primary date back to Feb 5th. The dems even offered an amendment, but of course it was shut down by the Republicans. Our democratic legislature had no choice but to vote for the bill to insure that in the future every vote will be counted, unlike the DNC who decided to penalize us because of the Republicans. Because of these facts, the proper thing to do would have been to make FL whole, but of course this would have favored Hillary and they could not allow that.

Tired of the party mentality that makes you vote for the candidate they want, not who you want?

You can break away and free yourself to think for yourself by REGISTERING INDEPENDENT!

By doing so the pollsters and the two parties will be put into a quandry trying to fiqure out who is ahead and who is behind. If only 25% of you REGISTER INDEPENDENT you can bring about the change this country desparately needs. YOU can still vote for the person you want, without having to carry the baggage of the party.

Take a giant step forward, THINK FOR YOURSELF, THINK INDEPENDENT!

Wow. Reading through these comments makes me sad. There's so much hate and spin and malevolence. It's politics, it's hardball, you can't let it get to you like this. Remember, Hillary and Barack are very similar on policy positions (and both are light years away from John McCain). And neither is going to destroy the country. Please take a deep breath and try not to hate the other candidate or the other candidates supporters.