Spike vs. Clint

Now I start to understand why almost all of Human Resources' Managers in CA are Black Americans. People like Spike Lee makes Afro-American looks bad.

Although I appreciate Spike Lee's enthusiasm for patrolling racism in the media, his accusations of Eastwood have little to no basis in historical fact. Since he claims he is a "man of history", I am going to claim I am a "woman of history" as a graduate student in Literature and History. Factually speaking, the US enrolled 1 million black soldiers, but most of the men engaged in non-combat positions, such as cooking and cleaning. If WWII was depicted in a movie, the "real-life" depiction of African-American soldiers would be showing the men doing remedial labor. Unfortunately, racism was still a very prominent part of our ideology and culture in the 1940s.

Why do those who supposedly want to end racism constantly bite the hand that feeds??? Eastwood has done more to create "color blind" attitudes than Lee has. When was the last time Lee did any movie with a non-black lead role? Eastwood does this all the time - not to mention the respectful way he has treated Native Americans in his movies, i.e. The Outlaw Josey Wales, etc.

Spike is way off base.

This is about spike and his agenda not Obama not all black mericans.
If you want to attack Obama do it w/ legitimate political discourse and not the words of Spike and not your lies and innuendo.
United Church of Christ is a predominantly white organization, it is not anti-white.
Obama has more intelligence in his big toe than "RL" and "cindy" have in their entire lying bodies.

Lee's problem isn't that he's black. It's that he is a "Schvartze". That boob Quentin Tarrantino won an acadamey award right away...if Lee were a white boy like Quentin he'd have won 1/2 a dozen by now....no question.

OMG! A white political reporter from the largely white male-run MSM dismisses claims of this country's institutionalized race bias by comparing Spike Lee to Buggin' Out! What a surprise. It's a comfort to know that the guy reporting on the presidential race is also keeping us updated on Britney Spears. Tapper, go watch "When the Levees Broke" and then get me updated on Hannah Montana.

Accusing Eastwood of racism is a hard sell, considering Clint's wife is Dina Ruiz and their first child was named after Morgan Freeman.

I am an American of color, and Lee is an idiot, and wrong. There WERE black actors in the film. Just not in the flag raising, as they should not have been. Proof:

Maybe ABC or the Screen Actors Guild can settle it. Spike's point seems pretty small right now.

Just remember The Tuskegee Airmen-Fightng 99 TH. 332 Squadron.

Watch the film. THEY WERE "REQUESTED"

US ARMY NURSE CORPS RESERVE-RETIRED.

Spike Lee is a racist, period.

Spike is talented and a savvy businessman. He sued Viacom for a gazillion dollars for naming a channel "Spike" and he understands the current way to get racial and money attention is to call up years of mistreatment.

One just has to see who is considered to represent those who share Mr. Lee's skin color. To a man, they are on a hair trigger to yell (literally) about every perceived slight and label it race. While those really in political power, understand that they represent the whole population.

Frankly, I think Spike is better than that and his work appeals to a cross section of gender, race, age, et. But who can blame him for going with what is currently financially winning and scream race.

Clint is Clint and has earned every accolade for his work in his field, although his stint as mayor of Carmel was pure comedy.

OMG, is this really the discourse of our nation? When Eastwood spoke to Lee's criticism he was totally correct. Lee is apparently envious, although he too is a great filmmaker. Surely he doesn't hold Clint accountable for the years of neglect of Blacks in Hollywood by expecting him to insert black people into roles where they are totally not appropriate & if he doesn't appreciate that Eastwood has been virtually color blind in his film history he isn't the student of history he claims to be.

Eastwood is right; I'm glad he stood his ground.

When somebody tells the other, "He sounds like an angry old man right there", we see discrimination and their words are disgusting and he should be condemned.

You know America is headed in the wrong direction when a 78y/old man gets hit by a car in Hartford,CT and no one goes to comfort him.

He is laying in the street-people walk away and drive around him for minutes!

This helps explain why no one cares that a presidential candidate sat in a racist, anti-American church for 20 years.

Many Americans don't care about character, values, and judgement. It's all about "what's best for me and to hell with everyone else".

McCain08 Hillary2012

Now that Hillary is gone who will the Obama supporters blame for all of Obama's problems and weaknesses?

They have cried racist so often, and portrayed Obama as a victim so often that now most of America expects it from the Obama camp.

It won't hide the facts--Obama is weak, inexperienced,unqualified to be president.

McCain08 Hillary2012

Writing this is not license

As Oscar Wild put: "The moral life of man forms part of the subject-matter of the artist, but the morality of art consists in the perfect use of an imperfect medium."

And it certainly dose not absolve the writer, dreamer, movie maker of critique and critique from moral, ethical, historical points of view, you can produce anything you like, that’s your right, but once produced and set before the public for consumption, I have the right answer your offering always the way to silence and out right criticisms.

Lee's not calling him a racist, he telling Clint, stop demeaning me, buy using pejoratives, which have a certain connotation among the Afro-American community.

Clint's sound bites answers are, missing the point, I would have spoken to him about it, before reacting, since it was my movie, most just shirk it off and make quip, like Clint did to real criticism, Lee didn't make it up, he's heard from the black community as did Clint.

Clint chose to make the demeaning retort and to this day, has responded to the actual black soldiers left alive who were there.

Clint dose not have to respond, he’s a big time movie maker and has made many films, with as he says; 90% black actors, but when you make a mistake in words and deeds, you would want to acknowledge those who feel aggrieved, this will past and many will draw there conclusions and once again, many in the black and white community will not learn from it, we all have to stop resting on our laurels and get back down to the knitty-gritty of where people’s lives are, not where your big screen, big reputation tells you’re and that’s for both side.

Spike Lee is just trying to stir something up to get some publicity for his movie, which will probably compare unfavourably with Eastwood's, so he's also setting up the old 'critics say his film is better than mine because I is black' defence.

But what is really wrong about this is that he is effectively calling Clint a racist, and that is just unacceptable. Clint knows exactly what Lee's game is, and has only responded because he is deeply offended by the insinuation.

From a purely artisitc point of view there is no reason why Clint should put a black face in these 2 films. The only reason Clint would have had to put a couple of black faces here and there, would have been to keep guys like Lee happy. And if he had, Lee would probably still have criticized him for not giving them enough of a role in the story.

One would have hoped that Lee could have taken a look at the whole of Eastwood's body of work, and made the obvious observation, that Clint is not a racist, and that his way of showing respect for black veterans would be to make a film about them, and not sully their memory with tokenism to appease the politically obsessed.

What this really comes down to is that there are guys like Clint who just want to tell stories, in the same way that Bob Dylan just wanted to sing songs, sometimes these stories/songs have a political significance, but what interests guys like Clint and Bob is the power of the story, the drama of the travails and triumphs of the human spirit, and for them it stops there. For guys like Lee, everything is about politics, and they bring politics into everything.

It is essentially a question of artistic freedom. Lee is effectively saying that there is no neutral territory, and that everything, even art, has to be judged from a moral and political point of view. I disagree. As Oscar Wild put: "The moral life of man forms part of the subject-matter of the artist, but the morality of art consists in the perfect use of an imperfect medium."

I just became a McCAIN DEMOCRAT. Unlike ABC and FOX, every other network was anti-Hillary. Can someone make a video of the bias against her especially the dogs at MSNBC/NBC and CNN to some extent. I predict a McCAIN WIN this fall...

- Democrat turned Independent from Massachusetts

hi everyone, i wonder where did my last post go....it wasn't derrogatory, racist, none of that...i just wanted to hear everone's opnion of spike lee and his shows, and believe me, i have seen some, and they make me crack up...LOL.....so please give some input...this is a freee country..