Washington Post Fact-Checker on Clinton Popular Vote Claim: "A Minor Masterpiece in Carefully Parsed Self-Delusion"

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Debra: If you know the GOP have a so-called tape, then you must be a very important insider Republican indeed to have that kind of information. Nothing is under lock and key any more in this country which has more leaks than a sieve.

dangliburul: Texas cauces were held after primary voting in the evening. Yes, the Texas Two-Step system is a pain and mostly thanks to Bill Clinton who helped set it up. Worked great for him. You can check the facts on that one. I am nearly 68 years old who went after work and am not the well-off that you are trying to imply.

Also, if voting age college students can be sent off to Iraq to fight and to die, they deserve to vote. What right has Bush or any other leader to tell them we really do not think you are old enough to be voting, but old enough to be cannon fodder! It is the younger age group who are fighting for your freedom while you mock them.

McCain is an honorable man and somebody willing to really change Washington lobbyists. If you can't change washington lobbying, you can't change anything in washington. Obama can keep talking about change but his reforms won't help this country. McCain's will.

Sonia, you represent my thoughts and feelings as well. I don't feel the overwhelming sadness the Obamabats want us to feel, because I will put my energies into McCain's campaign. They are wonderful Americans and deserving of the WH.
I am hearing buzz about Hillary being offered VP slot, and THAT saddens me, because I could never vote Obama.

The self appointed political analysts sitting on their tripod thrones of prejudiced opinions continue to nit pick irrelevant issues in the hope that their brand names can alter the impact of the inevitability of the dynamics of change.
What they don't seem to understand and will find difficult to comprehend is that the polls were wrong more often than they were right because they polled a section of the community and not a cross section of America.
So what else is new?
America wants change.Real change. Not a face lift. Not a gloss over.Not a panel beat job or a surgery operation. No way Hosea. America wants change. Why? Because people know their rights and they know they can vote whoever they want in and vote whoever they want out.The dynamics of change.
So the self appointed political analysts have to fold up their tents,and switch off their Backberries and be out of touch for a while and eat humble pie while they rewrite their scripts of acceptance that reality has won the day and the power of democracy has flexed it's muscles in the arena of politics and knocked politricks out of the ring with all it's messy wishy washy tricks of media spin and kitchen sink strategies.
“Yeah man. Right on. Move over old politicks . Step aside. Change is coming through.....”. Errol Smythe.

thank you poster for the link to women for fair politics-i just signed the petition and i suggest that others do as well. go hillary. and if not, then i can easily settle for john mccain. i like his moderate positions, and i like the fact that he was willing to take a stand against his own party's racist position on immigration regardless of the fact that racist would rally against him that was courageous this in reference to his often quoted statement that 'while we need to secure our borders we need to remember that immigrants are children of God'. i like the fact that when john's own son returning from iraq as the campaign was beginning was not paraded on stage to gain votes from republicans. i like the fact that he and his wife have opened their home to foster children. so for me if and when hillary concedes it will not be as some of you would like to believe (a traumatic event) but rather the obvious next step.

Marty I assume you were a clinton supporter, you don't want my MT vote to count we're not important? I thought that was her rally cry. The BS is Purto Rico gets more delegates than MT and SD combined they can't even vote in the general.

Whaaa! Whaa ! You guys sound like babies she lost. Knew this 2 months ago. She wasn't robbed it was fair to the rules she approved.. I don't think this should be turned into a femminist movement but it probly will.... It's kinda sad really... Now Mccain is gonna try to court females.. We'll see if they fall for it. it'll let me know if I should ever vote for a woman pres..

Yep. I voted in Republican primaries today, June 3rd, for the first time. The Democratic Party has lost me and my wife ( for ever)with their blatant fudging of this Presidential Primary. If it had been run under the same rules as existed in the days of McGovern, Kennedy, Dukakis, etc, she'd have been the nominee months ago. Or if she had been running in the Republican primary,right now, same result. What kind of twisted set of minds can give more net delegates to a candidate for winning a meaningless caucus in Idaho, Utah, etc,than by winning a big swing state by 100,000? This is an election camel designed by a bunch of special interest groups that I no longer wish to be associated with. I hope Hillary runs as a 3rd party candidate; I'd love to see the look on the faces of the DNC as their candidate came in in 3rd place.

The popular vote total is the votes cast by individuals in state primaries. Caucus votes don't count in the popular vote total because they are counted in terms of delegates, not votes, and many states don't count the number of people attending caucuses. Washington and Texas caucuses (won by Obama) are not included below because these states hold primaries AND caucuses. Caucus state include (Obama won all of them)
• Iowa
• Alaska
• Colorado
• Idaho
• Kansas
• Minnesota
• N Dakota
• Nebraska
• Maine
• Hawaii
• Wyoming
The popular votes being touted by the Clinton Campaign do not take this into account, and are therefore disenfranchising the “real” popular votes from all of these states and does not count the votes cast in the states where Barack Obama won, fair and square, some of them by very wide margins.

Ask yourselves this question cynical Clinton Sour Grape Groupies: WHAT HAPPENED? Allow me:

Problems at the outset-Assuming she was a lock for POTUS. Never underestimate an opponent. I bet she knows now!

Problems with personnel-Incompetent staff not understanding caucuses. How could you pay Mark Penn 8 mil not to know and understand caucuses?

Problems with execution-Corny speeches; no consistent brand. Changed her campaign theme 8 times!

Problems with the candidate-Blatant lies, resume pumping, boring and fake

Problems in Iowa-Not considering the WHITE VOTE. I'm sure she wished she had have campaigned in Iowa, huh?

Problems with money management- $30+ million in the hole after raising a quarter of a billion? Pathetic. I wouldn't give her a food stamp to manage from here on out.

Problems with the press-Lying to the press. Did she honestly think they weren't going to follow up on her fabricated stories? Is she that out of touch?

All of this and you cynics continue to speak out of the side of your heads in jibberish.

Blame Clinton for your woes. It’s clear that she failed you.

The Clintons have always been self-delusional. That is why they don't know what the truth is....They simply cannot be honest with themselves let alone the American people. I honestly feel sorry for those of you who continue to believe in them....I was one until I was cured this primary season..

This is what most Cynical Clinton Supporters don’t understand:

wish I could see the look on your faces when the “Superfighter Annie Oakley” Hillary concedes and stands behind Barack Obama 100% in a couple of weeks.

Not only will she stand with him, but she will give a long, typical Hillary type boring speech on why she’s supporting him, blah, blah blah. All for your personal enjoyment.

Now, won’t that make you look stupid holding your Hillary posters??? Huuuuuuh?

THIS JUST IN FROM DRUDGE:

OBAMA CLINCHES!

Barack Obama effectively clinched the Democratic presidential nomination Tuesday, based on an Associated Press tally of convention delegates, becoming the first black candidate ever to lead his party into a fall campaign for the White House.
Campaigning on an insistent call for change, Obama outlasted former first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton in a historic race that sparked record turnout in primary after primary, yet exposed deep racial divisions within the party.

The AP tally was based on public commitments from delegates as well as more than a dozen private commitments. It also included a minimum number of delegates Obama was guaranteed even if he lost the final two primaries in South Dakota and Montana later in the day.

Posted by: Nat Turner

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Mr. Turner really Drudged the bottom for this "news". Mr. Turner, consider the source...

bhrandon, I don't think you're stupid; but we are ALL entitled to our opinions, and I happen to think Obama is TOO far left. The main reason I have supported Hillary Clinton is because I see her as the nearest thing to a moderate currently available.

I'm not sure where McCain stands; he waffles on so many issues, he has only partial support from Republicans.

NO one wants moderation anymore. Everyone wants to "get even" with someone; this year it's President Bush. Barack Obama is seen as the one who will REALLY get even with Bush AND the American "establishment".

Today's politics is only about action and reaction, generously seasoned with revenge.

Consider, if you will, the way some people on this and other forums insult anyone who disagrees with them!

DNC and SD meet us at the polls
november 4th.
Family members,relatives,friends
WE'RE GOING TO VOTE STRAIT REPUBLICAN to punish DNC and party leaders.
You can count on it..........

Barack Obama effectively clinched the Democratic presidential nomination Tuesday, based on an Associated Press tally of convention delegates, becoming the first black candidate ever to lead his party into a fall campaign for the White House.
Campaigning on an insistent call for change, Obama outlasted former first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton in a historic race that sparked record turnout in primary after primary, yet exposed deep racial divisions within the party.
The AP tally was based on public commitments from delegates as well as more than a dozen private commitments. It also included a minimum number of delegates Obama was guaranteed even if he lost the final two primaries in South Dakota and Montana later in the day.

Finally, we can move on and make small work of McCain!

OBAMA 08

Rick

there is someone posting on here as me, so i dont konw what you read or what you are refering too

are you saying you are voting for mccain? or are you suggesting i am?

i am not voting for mccain, i am voting for the democrat...

end of story.. wake me up when we have a nominee

To dl: I very seriously hope that the FBI is reading this article "Blog" and traces your post back to your ISP and that they come and drag you in, for what you posted about 'little boys'. I thought you might have been one of the more reasonable posters, but obviously I was wrong.

I wouldn't be surprised if, when running, you get hit with a Tazer, too. See you on AMW. You do know how John Walsh feels about people who say things like that, right?