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Conservative Christian Group Invokes Slavery In Opposing Obama
July 08, 2008 3:25 PM
The Christian Defense Coalition held their anti-Obama press conference today -- "An Appeal to Catholics Regarding the 2008 Presidential Election" -- complete with the "I want you to pay for abortions" Obama-as-Uncle-Sam picture we told you about Monday as well as some other interesting material.
Such as: this image of slavery, invoked in the CDC's literature to argue that there is nothing wrong with Catholics being "single issue" voters on abortion.
Argues the CDC: "if that issue involves a fundamental right, such as the right to life for a certain group of human beings, and there is only one morally legitimate position on that issue…no faithful Catholic would vote for a candidate who, although 'personally opposed to slavery,' supported 'a white man's right to choose' to own slaves."
Click HERE to see the context of the slavery mention as well as the other controversial materials. (Note: we did blur out one image of an aborted fetus.)
- jpt
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Yes--well if the Religious Right wants to get upset they should look at what two white women did for Obama with their freedom of sexuality and choice: '2 Girls 1 Obama'--I can't decide whether to laugh or cry!!!
Posted by: Edith McFall | Jul 9, 2008 2:01:30 PM
When will CHRISTIANS demand these obviously NON-CHRISTIANS not take the name of CHRISTIANS in vain?
CHRISTIANS who DO NOT SPEAK OUT are ENABLERS and allow their good reputations dragged thru the dirt.
Where's the RIGHTEOUS ANGER?
Where's your voice?
Use it or lose it.
Posted by: mommadona | Jul 9, 2008 1:50:58 PM
It is the right of the Catholic church to have a position on abortion and to tell its parishioners that they should vote that way. And frankly, this argument is actually a good one; viewed as a fundamental human right, as many intelligent people view it, abortion could be considered sufficient to justify single-issue voting, as did slavery.
Personally, I am anti-abortion but vote pro-choice, and I certainly will vote for Obama unless something really weird happens between now and the election. (Can't imagine what that could be, because I can't imagine ever voting for McCain at this point.) But this particular conservative Christian group has a principled stand and a credible argument for its position on this matter.
Posted by: steve finley | Jul 9, 2008 1:45:43 PM
And we wonder why an increasing number of people don't attend services anymore. This speaks thousands. "let he who has no sin throw the first rock" Go on CDC throw it! Shame Shame Shame on you!
Posted by: Caline | Jul 9, 2008 1:39:11 PM
Is it the same religious right who support gambling and corporate control? Is it the same religious right who support tax cuts for the wealthy and gun rights? How many lives does guns take away every day? I bet it will be much much more than the choice every women has the right to.
Posted by: Zia I. | Jul 9, 2008 1:12:57 PM
Please READ the pamphlet before spouting off your uninformed opinions. The "racist, hateful" comments about slavery is neither! It basically sets up a parallel between 'A person who opposes slavery can't morally support a slave owner' and 'A person who opposes abortion can't morally support a woman who chooses an abortion'.
Posted by: Gavin | Jul 9, 2008 11:29:08 AM
Not for me to judge, but I would say this is not the way of a true Christian. Shame, shame... guess Church is more of a social gathering for them.
Posted by: Jacob | Jul 9, 2008 10:51:10 AM
At the end of the day, it's still a fact that the numbers of deaths by abortion world-wide (combined surgical and medical abortions) is now in the billions, with no let-up in sight. Each fetus was living. Each was human. And a being, not an abstract.
Posted by: Rob | Jul 9, 2008 10:44:58 AM
The religious right is so twisted with hatred and bigotry that they don't even see this as wrong. As someone who grew up in a deep southern state, I can tell you that the evangelical, fundamentalist Christian right doesn't have a clue what Christianity is all about. They are by and large uneducated and ignorant, and they would do anything to keep a black man out of office.
Posted by: jadesmith | Jul 9, 2008 10:25:16 AM
i want to know what does slavery has to do with abortion? no one owns anyone. these smears are ugly and have no place in this arena obama has my vote a woman has a right to her body. it is her choice either way. perfect example look at those 17 teens in mass if they were educated on prevention and getting an education and making a life for themselves instead being strapped down with a baby for the rest of their life that is slavery unwarrented for at least 18 years in the lowest form. the catholic church needs to address these issues, instead of putting fear about electing a black man ( who is just a man in my eyes) who will do good for this country instead of mccain who will take us to wwlll
Posted by: dmb | Jul 9, 2008 10:13:49 AM
I'm a Catholic. I don't have to tell people I have Christian values. I live them everyday of my life. I will vote for Barack Obama.
Posted by: Jey | Jul 9, 2008 9:04:41 AM
To quote the late, great George Carlin regarding so-called pro-lifers: "They aren't pro-life; they're anti-women!"
Posted by: Gregory Chamberlin | Jul 9, 2008 7:01:02 AM
Seriously people abortion is completely legal in Italy, the most Catholic country in the world. It's not even seen as a viable political stance. In a vote to ban abortion Italian (who are mostly Catholic) voted to keep abortions legal by more than 80%. People be crazy here in America sometimes.
Posted by: Dave | Jul 9, 2008 3:36:52 AM
"no faithful Catholic would vote for a candidate who, although 'personally opposed to slavery,' supported 'a white man's right to choose' to own slaves."
The logic of this is pretzel - dipped in mud - BAD analogy on many levels. Anyone heard of the Missouri Compromise?
FYI - Abe Lincoln was one of those that "personally opposed slavery" but was not opposed to it in states where it already existed. Before the American Civil War and even on the war's early stages Lincoln said that the Constitution prohibited the federal government from abolishing slavery in states where it already existed. His position and the position of the Republican Party in 1860 was that slavery should not be allowed to expand into any more territories, and thus all future states admitted to the Union would be free states.
Of course he "Flipped Flopped" later but thats another story
Posted by: ablogger | Jul 9, 2008 3:21:02 AM
the inconsistencies on the right are staggering. how can you be pro-life and support the death penalty??? this is an impossible paradox.
the reason that people who don't believe in abortion personally still support a woman's right to choose is simple, and isn't inconsistent at all. if abortions are illegal, then women will die getting them. it is a medical procedure and needs to be kept SAFE and LEGAL. period.
Posted by: preemptivelove | Jul 9, 2008 2:37:06 AM
The ad is true they are running. Obama wants tax payers to pay for abortions and approves of most types of abortins. Obama also approves of NOT giving health care to a baby born live to a failed abortion.
If it were not true then SUE them.
Posted by: won now | Jul 9, 2008 2:16:18 AM
I am gasping at the pump and my grandson is in Iraq.
I CANNOT AFFORD TO BE A SINGLE ISSUE VOTER.
Obama 'O8
Posted by: Former Hillaryite | Jul 9, 2008 1:42:27 AM
I WAS an angry Hillary supporter.
But within two or so weeks after the end of the Dem. Primaries, I found it increasingly embarassing to sustain my McCain Shift.
These ads don't help. I'll vote for the better of two tepid choices.
Posted by: Gina | Jul 9, 2008 1:38:41 AM
This Catholic woman will be voting for Barack Obama, as will many of my Catholic family members, friends and co-workers. Millions of us are NOT fools. We will not be duped.
Posted by: A Catholic | Jul 9, 2008 12:45:19 AM
Rogo wrote:
So if life begins at conception, does that mean that someone who is 20 1/2 years old can get a drink at a bar?
This is too funny!!
Posted by: Obama 2008 | Jul 8, 2008 10:45:54 PM
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