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July 18, 2008 9:42 AM
Conservative columnist Robert Novak reports today that Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and former Sen. Phil Gramm, R-Texas, have patched things up since Gramm made his clunky comments about the U.S. being "sort of...a nation of whiners," and in a "mental recession."
"Gramm apologized to McCain for his remarks that gave Democrats an opening against the Republican presidential candidate and provided several days of ammunition for blogs, cable television and radio talk shows," Novak writes. "McCain told Gramm not to worry about the expected pitfalls of a campaign surrogate. Gramm will continue as an adviser and surrogate. Gramm remained a steadfast supporter last year when it appeared that McCain's campaign had collapsed. McCain was a loyal backer of Gramm's failed 1988 campaign for president and did not leave until the candidate dropped out of the race."
Actually, Sen. Gramm ran for president in 1996, not 1988. But it's true that McCain was a big backer of Gramm's back then.
Earlier this week, I asked Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., chair of the House Financial Services Committee, what his take was on Gramm's comments.
"That's who he is," Frank said. "And John McCain supported him for president. Obama never supported Jeremiah Wright for president. John McCain supported Phil Gramm for president, he's a major influence on McCain. This is a mean guy, who thinks if you're poor it's your own fault, and has also been a contributor to the regulatory problem. He's the scariest part of John McCain and I think that it's very helpful that people know about it."
- jpt
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Whining, complaining etc., activities common to many good folks, does no harm. In fact, some experts believe it is actually helpful. It certainly doesn't make you a bad person. Mr. Graham's comment, which accurately describes many Americans, brings to mind the Jack Nicholson line in the movie "A Few Good Men". You know, the exchange where he says "You can't handle the truth". I'm still undecided, but this issue will not be a factor when I vote.
Posted by: Independent | Jul 18, 2008 11:46:56 AM
and sam if you want to do guilt by association people care more right now about the fact that the oil companies with their windfall profits and deregulation lobbyists have been directing this countries direction for almost 8 years...
Who are the people authoring his policies and RUNNING McCain's campaign?
Posted by: dl | Jul 18, 2008 11:24:32 AM
Sam
mccain never voted to close the enron loophole
and if he did it was years and years ago, and he would do no such thing today
Posted by: bhrandon | Jul 18, 2008 11:18:35 AM
Sam
Gramm has been campaigning for McCain and McCain for Gramm for years.
Gramm has campaigned for McCain continuously as a surrogate for McCain this whole past year.
Gramm and McCain have agreed on lots and lots of issues...
and Gramm's loud-mouthed behavior does not minimize who this guy is that Mccain has chosen as one of his top advisors.
Now one small advisor down the list...
McCain has Black fighting for oil and Gramm fighting for the banks and deregulators (and oil)...
Gramm authored the Loophole, pushed through deregulation and the loophole (2 of his bnig accomplishments) and now Mccain not only has him on his team...but has him as one of the main voices and surrogates for him on his team.
This is the difference McCain's team is made up of the people who got us here.
Obama's is not... so I guess McCain's experience and judgement is based on that team huh?
Your arguments are spin...unfortunately this time the facts are overwhelming...
McCain's "team" is overwhelming.
and just wait until he picks Romney and we start to look at the mess Romney left in Mass.
the choice is ging to be overwhelmingly clear...
especially as we see the people that are linging up to be on Obama's team...
a potential administration team we have not seen in decades.
Posted by: dl | Jul 18, 2008 11:16:31 AM
dl
McCain voted to close the enron loophole.
Gramm is a former senator with a big mouth who went on his own to speak to the washington times.
Just remember Obama had father pfleger on his campaign.
You want to play guilt by association.
Fine then Obama stands by whatever wright, rezko, ayres, hamid, pfleger has ever said.
Posted by: Sam | Jul 18, 2008 11:07:54 AM
Considering that Gramm is the architect of the Mortgage Meltdown with his Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, if McCain is elected, we are all screwed.
Posted by: Jane Hussein | Jul 18, 2008 11:07:44 AM
and sam
"Gramm was talking about how congress says we can't compete with Mexico"
your right the "truth" ddoesn't matter with YOUR politics.
Listen to the words when he is saying them...he was complaining that the people in the country (bologne about the congress...he would have said congress ...not "the country") sucking it up
but yeah keep spinning the bull.
McCain said this guy is a hero of his...do you get that. He fought for him because he agrees with his economics.
so stop trying to spin that he doesn't agree with Gramm and his horrible policies that he pushed through that got us here...
if that were the case the guy wouldn't be one of ...if not arguable the closest and longest held advisor to him on the economy.
Posted by: dl | Jul 18, 2008 11:06:29 AM
Sam you forgot one more: McCain is HATED by REPUBLICANS!!!
Posted by: jeez! | Jul 18, 2008 11:03:44 AM
I'm really confused. Today, McCain talked about extending his gas tax holiday plan.
If the tax can be shifted like this, why not eliminate it altogether? That money must not be going towards bridges, roads, and levees.
In fact, if lowering taxes helps the economy, let's eliminate all taxes.
Posted by: Dan | Jul 18, 2008 11:02:15 AM
Sam
McCain and Gramm are part of what got us here.
do yuo even know who Gramm is and what issues he pushed through and who he has lobbied for...
Obviously not
He is McCain's most long held advisor on economic choices...
like the big push for deregulating the mortgage industry
or the enron loophole
or lobbying for the banks
or deregulating some of the trade regulations
or ...the list is long why this guy is attached to every problem we have now...
MCain has surrounded himself and built his entire campaign on the guys who got us HERE.
The guys whose focus was not to get us off oil but keep us on.
Posted by: dl | Jul 18, 2008 11:00:30 AM
Who cares if they patched things up. Gramm is the culprid of evil greedy legislation and he has the extreme audacity to insult the (we are in a recession). Of course Gramm will tell us the sky is indeed green with purple polka dots, but is it? No, and I resent the fact that that man is still walking free let alone still part of McCains campaign advisors. McCain has the worst thugs in the the world as his campaign advisors. That is a very bad omen for him!
Posted by: eyeonyou | Jul 18, 2008 10:57:00 AM
Its too bad Sam wasn't on the Sunday
talk shows instead of the Governor of South Carolina who was a McCain surrogate. Sam clearly knows the economic policy differences between John McCain and Phil Gramm. Of course, Governor Sanford was asked the differences between McCain and Bush and couldn't think of any.
Posted by: Ricky | Jul 18, 2008 10:56:55 AM
Imagine a liberal Dem congressman saying something negative about the Republican presidential nominee.
It seems...not shocking to me.
Posted by: MayBee | Jul 18, 2008 10:51:51 AM
McCain wants to cap the pay of CEO's.
McCain wants a cap and trade on global warming.
McCain wants to fine companies for global warming.
McCain is far more populist that Phil Gramm.
McCain calls pharmacuetical companies greedy.
McCain is hated by big tobacco.
McCain is hated by big ethonol.
McCain is against subsidies for ethanol. Obama panders to ethanol.
McCain wants to allow drug importation from Canada.
McCain is hated by big business.
Obama gets more from big business than McCain.
McCain wants to allow negotation as part of Medicare to bring down drug prices.
Obama was the one who said he is ok with higher gas prices.
I hate this election it isn't about the candidates because Obama won't have town hall meetings.
McCain has 20 economic advisors.
McCain campaign didn't set up Gramm's talk to the washington times. He went on his own.
Gramm was talking about congress who is whining not average americans.
But the truth doesn't count in politics. Gramm was talking about how Congress says we can't compete with Mexico.
Posted by: Sam | Jul 18, 2008 10:50:25 AM
Obama, whose campaign jumped on Robert Novak's suggestion earlier this year of Clinton dirty tricks, mocked Novak's column today that Michelle has nixed Clinton as a vice president, Carrie Budoff Brown reports.
He dismissed it with a flit of his hand. He nearly didn't say anything, but then offered: "My wife does not talk to Bob Novak on a regular basis."
Communications director Robert Gibbs suggested afterward that the article should be set aside "in case of a toilet paper emergency."
This was a previous story of Novak saying Michelle Obama had taken Hillary off the VP list.
You Obama supporters were saying it was false.
Novak is a horrible reporting that is always spreading misinformation.
Novak has no credibility.
McCain's campaign just told Politico that Phil Gramm is no longer a surrogate and Novak's story is false
Posted by: Sam | Jul 18, 2008 10:46:38 AM
To Jake Tapper
McCain campaign just told Politico that Bob Novak's story is false and Gramm won't be a surrogate.
Jonathan Martin of Politico has the story of McCain campaign saying the Novak story is false and Gramm is no longer a surrogate.
Bob Novak always gets stories wrong.
McCain has got to be infuriated by all the misinformation out there.
McCain is getting hurt badly by all the misinformation out there.
Posted by: Sam | Jul 18, 2008 10:40:40 AM
Sounds as if for McCaine, the whining Grahm flap, did not derail his determination to appoint Mr. Graham to lead economic policy in his administration. The preelection period is just a positioning period, before the deed is done and its just a question of politics.
Unfortunately, for most struggling Americans, the question that arises now is how will the appointment of Mr. Graham to treasury secretary produce economic policies that are in some way different from those of George Bush?
Sounds a lot like an admission by McCaine that he believes, what the country needs is four more years of the Mc Same OLD.
Posted by: Stuart MS | Jul 18, 2008 10:39:44 AM
Bob Novak lies about everything.
You Obama supporters were always saying he lies.
McCain's campaign just confirmed to politico that Gramm will not be a surrogate any longer.
Posted by: Sam | Jul 18, 2008 10:38:16 AM
You can't trust McRove. One minute Gramm's under the bus, next minute he's back driving it.
Posted by: Snarxon | Jul 18, 2008 10:35:12 AM
Whiners will be the Republican party
when this White trash administration and
chicken wing MCcain lose to the American
publics presidential vote .
Posted by: slimjim66 | Jul 18, 2008 10:33:20 AM
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