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A pretty testimonial for McCain, I think the names of the players are pretty insignificant though.

Petty of anyone to denigrate that no matter what the context.

If Obama were in the same situation which we all know he wouldnt be caught dead in, he could use the Chicago 7 or maybe the Ayatollahs.

Please look up the words "Klein McCain file" (minus the quotes) via Google and visit the first result that follows and read what it says there before you base any support of John McCain on his military record. It suggests that the very thing he bases so many of his claims for being qualified and having integrity upon is a lie. It would seem that McCain lied about his military history, that he was an inherent screw-up and failure all down the line and that much of his military record has been withheld. I find it very concerning, as this is the basis of so much of his campaign.

In fact, it was true that his great-uncle's infantry division did this at the end of the second world war. Obama simply got the name of the camp wrong, which can happen when it wasn't even your own experience. An interview with his great-uncle also explains how Obama could have easily made such a mistake.

In McCain's case, however, his story was his own experience, and one that he told many times over a period of decades. I agree with what someone said about it being odd that, suddenly, in Pennsylvania of all places, he conveniently mixes up a very pertinent part of a story he's told countless times in such a way that would appeal to his audience at that moment.

I agree with what someone said about preferring to be called bitter over being called a whiner. I think being considered bitter speaks a lot more of the state of this country and the world than it says about us as individuals and, if you're not bitter by now about it, then you probably live in Candyland. Take that literally or figuratively.

At the very least, calling someone bitter, in my mind, implies being dissatisfied and disillusioned about something relatively substantial and legitimate. Calling someone a whiner just means they don't have any real problems and are unreasonably hard to please. I'll take bitter, thanks.

Do we really want 4 more years of bush? Hope he gets impeached! Should be:) It's been hell. Go Obama, you rock! Anyting is better than McBush:) You go dude:0 Love ya

John McCain has not only exposed himself as a political panderer (substituting the 1967 defensive line of the Pittsburgh Steelers for the offensive line of the Green Bay Packers) when maiking a speech this last week in Pittsburgh.

He's also exposed himself as an ignorant panderer. Bill Austin was the coach of the Steelers in 1967. They had a record of 4-9-1. Austin was fired the next year and the Steelers went on to glory.

Maybe McCain just "misremembered." More probably, he has pre-onset Alzheimer's or he just lied for political reasons.

For the record, the defensive line of the 1967 Pitttsburgh Steelers was Chuck Hinton, Ken Kortas, Ben McGee and Lloyd Voss.

Remember any of those names? I'm from Pittsburgh and I'm a Steeler fan and I don't.

Face it, John McCain will lie about things big and small.

TMTM,

Did you get upset during the primary when the media was in the tank for Obama? He could do no wrong. Hillary couldn't do anything right. Even when they were both praising republicans Obama was reaching out to republicans and Hillary was a traitor. Every time Obama misspoke or lost an election it was Hillary's fault. Obama supporters where already blaming Hillary for Obama losing the general election and the primary was not even over. Obama never takes responsibility for his actions. He is always the victim. We just had 8 years of that kind of behavior - do we really want 4 more?

Can you imagine the uproar if Obama had made a mistake like that? And look at the uproar or the Hillary Bosnia story. But the press doesn't even hardly notice, let alone make a big deal of this.

Either he was lying, or has some memory problems. Often with his gaffs, I think it is memory. In this case, he was probably lying.

McSnideRemarks is a Lying panderer... This man does not know what he stands for and the media has been way to kind to him, they hardly ever Scrutinize what he says! He has lost all integrity and thinks the economy is all-Psychological!

Enough of the BS! All candidates pander to some degree; all candidates tell little white lies. In McCain's case, I have to read blogs to see his "inconsistencies" pointed out, while every misspeak that Obama, or anyone around him makes, lands front and center on my Comcast homepage, courtesy of the AP, and the nightly headlines of the major news outlets.

I don't worry so much about McCain being too old, but I do worry about his mental stability. And, I am sick and tired of hearing that he is more qualified because of his military and government service. Now, the right-wing plays up military service as if it is the most important qualification in the world. Odd that McCain's service didn't mean "squat" to the GOP in 2000.

For me, it boils down to the fact that McCain is a hypocrite. He speaks of family values, but is an adulterer. He rails against drug users, though his wife was arrested for stealing drugs. He believes private providers are the answer to the health care crisis, while he has, and will continue to have for his lifetime, by virtue of his Senate service, the best health care plan that our money can buy. He proclaims that he wants to move this country forward, yet his campaign relies on the stale, kick the working man policies of people like Phil Graham. He tells us that our veterans should be honored and respected, but he spoke against the newly passed bill which increased benefits for veterans; did not show up to vote for it, yet was singled out by Bush as deserving credit for its passage.

In the great scheme of things, I suppose McCain's changing his football story to fit an audience might not be seen as grievous by some. However, when one considers the preponderance of McCain's lies and flip-flops, and his inability to live by the moral code he expects others to follow, this Packers/Steelers story does matter. It is but one more indictment of a man who is incapable of keeping his stories "straight."

Do the republicans have buyers remorse yet ?????

"NBD. Everyone makes mistakes. This is not even a news item."

This is no mistake. McCain specifically says he named every lineman. How can he do that yet forget which team he was speaking of. And why is it conveniently the favorite team of the town you're giving a speech in. This is almost as bad as Bosnia.

Ouch. What a shameless pander. I'm a student for McCain and this one stinks. I liked Kevin's post about gaffe of the century. Little did he know that very shortly thereafter Jesse Jackson would reference the removal of another politicians testicles.
In any case McCain's lying, but its not a big lie, it's just the kind of lying all candidates do all the time. See the SNL sketch on John Kerry and pandering for a hilarious take on politicians saying different things to different crowds.

Posted by: KDH | Jul 11, 2008 8:50:34 PM

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I'm sure SNL will do a skit on what the 70 year old gray haired PANDER BEAR said.

Ouch. What a shameless pander. I'm a student for McCain and this one stinks. I liked Kevin's post about gaffe of the century. Little did he know that very shortly thereafter Jesse Jackson would reference the removal of another politicians testicles.
In any case McCain's lying, but its not a big lie, it's just the kind of lying all candidates do all the time. See the SNL sketch on John Kerry and pandering for a hilarious take on politicians saying different things to different crowds.

In late 1999, I traveled to Pittsburgh to prepare an office for sale. At a neighborhood bar, I met a guy who told me he was a big Packers fan. Knowing that the Steelers won 4 superbowls in the 70s, I asked why. He reminded me that during his childhood in the 50s and 60s the Steelers were the doormats of the NFL.

So McCain would have had to left the prison camp and traveled into the future to learn the names of the linemen of the "Steel Curtain" or else memorize the names of the mediocre Steelers squad of the 60s (I'm pretty sure the prisoners didn't watch NFL Week). Ah, McCain, just open your mouth and the raw sewage just pours out.

JOHN MCCAIN REPEATEDLY SAYS THINGS THAT ARE NOT TRUE.

Whether by mistake or by design, this man repeatedly utters untruthful statements.

When you combine his countless flip flops and "mistakes" I have no idea how any voter can think this man is qualified to be President.

Senile Dementia isn't pretty, is it? Just what we need in the White House at such a potentially volatile time in history.

Amazing how the issues that really matter are rarely the topics of discussion…

McCain has a record of voting for the policies that has brought the country into its current state, 95% of the time…

This record includes putting healthcare into the hands of individuals rather than their employees, the privatization of Social Security, expanding NAFTA, providing tax credits to the oil industry while making tax cuts to the wealthy permanent, continued military aggressions overseas and when it comes to our economy and infrastructure McCain admitted he doesn’t have the expertise to provide a economic or social plan…

Beside McCain’s voting record his background is freighting similar to our current president, one father being the CIA Director then V.P. the other having a grandfather then father holding military rakes of Navy Admirals, the only difference is one admittedly liked the action of going into combat bombing missions and the other took advantage of their father’s positions to avoid combat…both being at the bottom 5% of their Ivy League Graduating Classes…

The information on both candidates, intent is out there, you just have to look…
Bottom line is if you make over $250K you should vote McCain, your financial interest is his agenda…
If you are of the working class you have to vote for Obama, and when you keep the issues as the topics it’s hard to dispute this analogy…

When McCain completely lies to pander to a hometime audience its a "senior moment" that is laughed off as part of his comedic charm. Imagine how much play this would get if it was Hillary.

John didn't know this at the time, but was tortured for it. Basically, his father became the commander for the entire Pacific fleet. The Vietnamese wanted to use John to discredit the United States. They ask John to do certain things for them. He refused. The American POWs had nicknamed their captors. The guard gave him a day to think about it. John knew that if he were to say no that he would be beaten. John said, no and was beaten 3 months later. For a period of 4 days, every hour they beat him and were careful not to leave marks. John tried, halfheartedly, to commit suicide. John then signed the following Vietnamese statement: "I am a blackcriminal, and I have performed the deeds of an air pirate. I almost died and the Vietnamese people saved my life. The doctors gave me an operation that I did not deserve." John refused to sign anything else they told him to sign. He made a tape of his confession just like many other American POWs.

I think people automatically reject one candidate or another because of their party and I don't think that's good for the country. I'm a new time voter and all my friends are voting Obama but I am an undecided voter.