McCain Hedges on Whether Obama Is a Socialist

What a Hillary Clinton-esque response by McCain.

Soetoro no? A Police State? Are you kidding me? What in the heck does saying Obama is a liberal makes you think "police state?" The only country that had a "Police State" was Germany and they were Faschists. They were so far to the right of McCain that they made MCCain look like Obama. Obama is wanting to make a universal health insurance situation, how does that qualify as being a Socialist? And I hope they set the standard for Universal Health Insurance on the same situation as in France, which is much better than England or Canada. Everybody is so scared of the word socialism, but they don't know the governments in this world that are considered socialized democracies that are living well in this 21st century. Educate yourselves.

"And EVERYONE in Sweden pays approximately 60% of their earnings in taxes (combined income tax, payroll tax and value-added taxes).
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B U T...
THEY don't have to worry about not being able to afford medicine and needing to do without!

Their schools produce successes rather
than drop-outs!

They don't take money from Paul (social security) to pay Peter (Fanny May, the war. etc )!

I think none of us would bitch and moan about taxes if we felt we were being FAIRLY taxed, and if there were benefits to reap!

Meanwhile

HILLARY BEFORE MCCAIN

but always,

COUNTRY BEFORE BROKEN DOWN DONKEY PARTY

How long before McCain accuses Obama of being a thespian?

Sweden isn't socialist. Most property there is privately owned and controlled. Sweden is a capitalist country with a relatively democratic polity compared to most capitalist countries. If we're going to have capitalism, the least we could do is have Swedish-style capitalism. They live very well over there. I know, I'm married to a Swede and have spent time in Sweden. Life for all Swedes is much better than for most Americans.

Obama may not be a socialist now, but I am curious about his "New Party" membership back in the 90's. I tried to research it but the information available is lacking. Plus, his father was an ardent communist who wrote articles supporting African socialism-guy wrote a dang book about him. He hung with Ayers (or did he?)...his (ex-)pastor's rhetoric is highly populist bordering on Marxist. He was a "community organizer"...I never met a pro free-market one of those.....is it so crazy?

NKA, you wrote: "And what praytell is wrong with Socialism? Look at Sweden, ranked the happiest place to live in the world."

And EVERYONE in Sweden pays approximately 60% of their earnings in taxes (combined income tax, payroll tax and value-added taxes).

The American Dream--being able to achieve success, fame and wealth in life through hard work--will die under Socialism. One of the main tenants of Socialism is wealth redistribution. The government will rob you of your wealth in order to provide free entitlements to the poor and middle class. So where is the incentive to work hard if the government is going to just hand you everything for free? As soon as you accept that concept, you will surrender two of your unalienable Rights--Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness--to the government; and become enslaved to the government.

Ha ha ha ha is McCain being serious? Americans don't know the definition of the word socialist! There are not really even that many socialists left in Europe. But Obama believes in free markets and private enterprise. He is no socialist.

What nonsense. I wish the Republicans could find a different playbook. They've been using this one since 1948. It's ironic given their continued eagerness to privatize corporate profits and socialize corporate losses.

Anyone interested in learning something about Obama should take a look at Ryan Lizza's New Yorker article on Obama's experience in Chicago and Illinois (it's available on line). The article isn't always flattering, but it shows that Obama has always been a shrewd, pragmatic, centrist, non-dogmatic politician.

I for one would like to have a President with those qualities. They certainly beat "head in the sand," "God told me to do it," "I don't admit mistakes," "your either with me or against me." Look where eight years of these "qualities" have gotten us.

And what praytell is wrong with Socialism? Look at Sweden, ranked the happiest place to live in the world. While here in the States we have poverty, an ignorant populace, abysmal education, special interests controlling policy decisions, and no viable healthcare system. Yay for Democracy!

I'm an anarchist. I know the difference between socialism, anarchism, social democrats, communists, and American liberals.

Obama is an American liberal, and one who isn't really that far to the left. He's fairly conservative for a Democrat, except that he has a lot of faith in the grassroots, and knows how to lead large numbers of people. That's the main difference - Clinton still had some of that faith in the New Deal. Obama has very little, and trusts grassroots groups more.

One of Obama's major funders is foreign born international billionaire George Soros (one of the founders and funders of Move On.org) is a socialist. Many of Obama's funders are socialists.

Socialism would be disastrous for the United States. It never works.

Obama would be disastrous for the U.S. He's not qualified to be President. Wake up people! Investigate Obama, the media has failed to. Most Obama supporters have NO idea WHY they support him or WHAT he stands for. It's pathetic and dangerous.

Socialism does not work. Problem is, human beings are greedy. That will NEVER change.

"'Sorry but the European socialized medicine model does NOT afford better care than the US system. "
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Posted by: between the ears. | Jul 19, 2008 12:24:05 AM

DISREGARD WHAT I WROTE!
THE PHONE RANG AND JANGLED MY FINGER AND I POSTED UN-INTENTIONALLY...

Because I KNOW that the quality of our health care..... is rated mighty low !!!

With good reason.

... especially if you're a member of the middle class.....

We already have a socialist government, at least when it comes to bailing out corporations. It's called Wall Street Socialism.

Okay, McCain won't say it, but I will:

Barack Hussein Obama is an extreme, liberal, socialist with tendencies towards governmental policies that are more representative of communist type of idealogy than that of a democratic republic.

'Sorry but the European socialized medicine model does NOT afford better care than the US system. "
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A horizon is N O T a timetable.

It is never militarily expedient to provide your enemies up front with a map of your intended actions.

But this bodes well for McCain because it shows that the surge has been successful after all.

If Mc Cain still finds himself in a bind after another week, he won't just endorse Obama positions on Iran, Afghanistan, and applaud a "horizon," for withdrawal in Iraq, he will have Romnney credit McCain with inventing socialism. Flippity, hippity, hop. Bomb, bomb, bomb, Itan you marvelous apes!

Bush throws McCain off the Bus!

The presumptive Democratic nominee, Senator Barack Obama of Illinois, has said he would pull most American combat troops from Iraq within 16 months of taking office. Obama's Republican counterpart, Senator John McCain of Arizona, rejects a timetable for withdrawal and says U.S. forces must remain for as long as necessary to stabilize the country.

Maliki last week called for agreements between US and Iraq to include a timetable for the withdrawal of U.S. forces. American officials initially rejected that demand. On Friday July 18, 2008 President George W. Bush and Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki agreed that a ``general time horizon'' is needed for a phased reduction of U.S. combat troops in Iraq.

58,

I really and truly believe that some of the things FDR did such as social security and the confiscating of everyone's money (gold) and devaluing the currency by 75% was criminal. The social security system we have today we owe in large part to the guns and butter crap that LBJ put upon us when he took social security from a trust to the general fund. What FDR started has been used by countless politicians ever since as a tool to meet their own ends. A temporary benefit would have been better for us long term than what we have now. We are going broke trying to fund this money pit. I wish the people in this country could understand the dangers of a credit based system where the government borrows unlimited amounts of money to fund ponzi schemes that are destined to fail. I am like everyone else, a victim of the system. I will rely to some extent on social security as will most everyone else but I wish I had been given that money to invest on my own. Although I will be a recipient of the benefit, I know it is not what the founders had in mind for us any more than they envisioned us, strapped by the overbearing costs of the debt we owe the FED.