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McCain Keeps Mentioning Country That Hasn't Existed Since 1992

July 15, 2008 3:39 PM

In early 2000, then-Gov. George W. Bush told Roger Simon, then with U.S. News & World Report, that he was befuddled by how soft the media was on Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.

"I don't think there is any plot; I hope there isn't," Bush said. "But it's an amazing phenomenon, I'll tell you that. It's like the flap over the foreign-leader deal. A guy gets up and quizzes me -- it's my fault for trying to answer -- but John McCain says something about the 'ambassador to Czechoslovakia.' Well, I know there is no Czechoslovakia (there's a Czech Republic and a Slovakia), but yet it didn't make the nightly national news. I'm not going to gripe about it, but the media question is starting to pop up."

Apparently that Czechoslovakia lesson never took, because McCain keeps making that mistake, eight years later.

"I was concerned about a couple of steps that the Russian government took in the last several days," McCain said this week. "One was reducing the energy supplies to Czechoslovakia. Apparently that is in reaction to the Czech's agreement with us concerning missile defense, and again some of the Russian now announcement they are now retargeting new targets, something they abandoned at the end of the Cold War, is also a concern."

Well, I'd be concerned too!

Especially since I was under the impression that on January 1, 1993, Czechoslovakia became the Czech Republic and Slovakia -- two separate countries.

Greg Sargent points out that this is not an isolated incident, that earlier this year McCain told Don Imus he'd "work closely with Czechoslovakia and Poland" (Poland still exists!) on the European Missile Defense System, and during a October 2007 Republican debate sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations McCain said he'd "make sure that we have a missile defense system in place in Czechoslovakia and Poland, and I don't care what (Vladimir Putin's) objections are to it."

The issue is bubbling up quite a bit on liberal blogs with the argument that Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, (as with Bush before him) could never get away with such an error. The idea being that McCain claims great foreign policy experience and knowledge, so why does he keep urging action on a missile shield for a country that hasn't existed since George H.W. Bush was president?

Herein we offer a helpful list of other countries that no longer exist (Hey, Brooke, -- clip and save):

The U.S.S.R.
Yugoslavia
Kingdom of Kongo
Upper Volta
Persia
Ivory Coast
Burma
West Germany
East Germany.
North Yemen
South Yemen
Southern Rhodesia
Rhodesia
Ceylon
Portuguese West Africa
Nyasaland
French West Africa
New Holland
Constantinople
Gold Coast

...I'd also avoid mentioning Pangaea.

- jpt

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Burma doesn't belong on that list - some might call it Burma because they don't know to call it Myanmar, but for a lot of people, the purposefully use the name to show that they do not recognize the government of the junta, which is the body that renamed it. That's why many overseas Burmese activists have the "Free Burma" campaigns, not "Free Myanmar." I call it Burma for the same reason.

Posted by: merry | Jul 17, 2008 9:33:52 AM

Prattling about, McSame goes floating through the countryside. Brain (pea) in head oblivious to the very real issues concerning The People. Ha-ha, but will The People return the favor. Only our mystical big brother knows for sure.

Posted by: caliguy55 | Jul 16, 2008 6:24:53 PM

McCain graduated from the US Naval Academy 894th in a class of 899. He wrecked five jets before they finally got rid of him. Obviously he is not the brightest bulb on the tree. He was shot down by an out-of-date Soviet missile by men with no experience in anti-aircraft warfare because he did not follow the rules of evasion taught at the Academy. Let's just say the man has only one oar in the water.

He disses two in five people on the face of the earth by referring to all Asians as “Gooks.” He may be viewed as a “hero,” but I don’t think being shot down qualifies him for the job of president.

Posted by: rhbate | Jul 16, 2008 12:35:17 PM

Iran is a tiny little country that doesn't pose a serious threat---

24 hours later...

Iran is a grave threat.

Obama-wanting it both ways again.

Posted by: riley | Jul 16, 2008 9:21:01 AM

We all know that Americans are not the most knowledgable when it comes to geography. Mainly because we are such a large country.

The real problem here is that the mistake was pointed out to McCain and he still repeats it. He can't even remember the right football team in his own P.O.W. story. This is not someone who should be in charge of anything. He needs to retire.

Posted by: Cindy | Jul 16, 2008 12:50:11 AM

Well, understandable, some people still refer to Burma. It's a time thing, not a knowledge thing. Take Obama's pretty dumb repeated remark that he would transfer the Arab translators used in Iraq to Afghanistan to assist there.....right...or as someone has mentioned, -we've been to 57 states and one to go- We can go on with this....

Posted by: 58 state union | Jul 16, 2008 12:03:38 AM

And who said there are 57 States??!! States that never existed - forever!!

Posted by: Beckie | Jul 15, 2008 11:37:47 PM

Now Jake, I do wish you would stop referring to Constantinople as a country that doesn't exist anymore. In fact, it never existed as a country - it was a city (now called Istanbul).

Posted by: JMC | Jul 15, 2008 10:31:18 PM

The real issue is the eastward
expansion of NATO into some
former republics of the
Soviet Union. Missile defense
system has no popular support
- either in the Czech Republic
or in Poland. Their parliaments
have not yet voted on it.

It's also causing tensions with
Russia which may get back by
supporting former Soviet client
states like Syria, Iraq, Iran
and others against US interests.

The Russian view is that the
missile defense systems so close
to their country is a direct
threat to them although the
stated intentions are that
they are meant shoot down
missiles launched by rogue
states like Iran at Europe.

The Russians are also saying
Iranian missile threat to
Europe is non-existent either
now or long into the future
- if ever.

These are the issues McCain
should be discussing in his
town hall meetings.

Posted by: anon | Jul 15, 2008 10:30:31 PM

Some other countries that no longer exist:

the Confederate States of America

the Kingdom of Hawaii

the Republic of Vietnam

the Republic of Texas

the Republic of California

the Kingdom of Lydia (McCain visited there once, I think)

the Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere

the Ottoman Empire

the Austro-Hungarian Empire

That some of these political entities no longer exist as such is not necessarily a bad thing.

Posted by: Steffan | Jul 15, 2008 9:57:58 PM

Oh, my...

It's "The Gnat!"

Must be time for Gnat lessons on the Gong Show...

Posted by: Jayhawk | Jul 15, 2008 9:33:10 PM

At least McCain's lapse or habit of reference is concerning European countries and their changing politics.

But, realistically, which one of you bloggers could claim to be 100% correct all of the time if you were on the campaign trail for years at a time?

Posted by: Jayhawk | Jul 15, 2008 9:31:13 PM

uh, ivory coast definitely still exists. i mean it's sometimes called cote d'voir or something like that, which is french for "ivory coast". or the republic of the ivory coast is the official title, but that's like saying china isn't a country because it's the people's republic of china. ivory coast: still a country.

Posted by: cavemandave | Jul 15, 2008 8:44:30 PM

McCain recently said, "I know how
to win wars."

Which one? Vietnam? Iraq?


Posted by: anon | Jul 15, 2008 8:37:31 PM

McCain says he knows war, that he knows how to run a war. Are we going to be at WAR from now until the end of time?
How about some peace. Someone who knows how to TALK WITH (not always to) other countries, not the "my way or the highway" approach of Bush/McCain.

Posted by: Alan Coleman | Jul 15, 2008 7:35:05 PM

'Donkeys can't win horse races"


WELL, I guess that kicks the bucket out from under BO(?), BHM(?) BARRY(?).

So sad.

Posted by: yesssssssssss | Jul 15, 2008 6:38:15 PM

Remember......

Donkeys can't win horse races.

Especially when up against a political stallion in Obama.

Man, this election is going to be like taking money from a Republican.

OBAMA 08

Posted by: Nat Turner | Jul 15, 2008 6:14:57 PM

NAT SPLAT:

"Denial is cold-blooded, isn't it?"


THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT Y O U'RE GOING TO FIND OUT!.

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Posted by: yesssssssssss | Jul 15, 2008 6:13:58 PM

To Jake Tapper:

Obama last year said the surge was a problem and wouldn't work.


Now he scrubbed that from his site.


That is our messiah Obama.

Posted by: Michael | Jul 15, 2008 6:09:11 PM

McCain has gone to Nato security conferences for years.

Obama never gone.

Obama has zero foreign policy experience. He has spent his time in wright's church for running for office.

Posted by: Michael | Jul 15, 2008 6:07:01 PM

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