McCain’s Temper Tantrum Tawdriness

ok, obama is going to encourage poor people and minorites, to go into the military.

i'll bet this is not the "change" they were hoping for.

McPain got pissed today when reporters asked him about POWness? They asked "So what DID you learn from being a POW - that you can take to the presidency.?"
And he just scowled and said, "please." "please" no response.

Hey some good came out of Wes's remarks ! People will start snooping around.. !

Jim Rod You really have not been paying attention if you think Democrats could do anything with Bush and his veto. Then there was the republican filibuster that required 60 votes when there was a 49 to 50 repubs to demos. So the republicans had it 100% until 2006. Since then they have just made sure the Democrats could get nothing done. That is how wonderful republicans have been as Bush's rubberstampers.

Obama is the only one who will do. If you think bottom yellow teeth when talking McCain is the one the country needs you are not a Democrat worthy to be called a Democrat. Our nation is in the hands of old republicans who are owned by and do the bidding for corporations. This is what will continue with McCain. More old republicans screwing up everything they can for Americans while they enrich corporate interests.

Some on this forum have been criticized for bringing up issues (McCains past temper fits) that go back as far as 20-21 years. I guess you can't have it both ways can you? You McCain supporters remind us several times a day of McCains POW status and what a hero he was. Let's see, that happened 40 plus years ago but you are willing to share that story over and over and over. But the oppositon doesn't dare bring up anything that may tarnish his image regardless of when it happened. That's hypocritical, but what do you expect from the McCain campaign?

Tim,
I see you are back. I reiterate that all that so called "experience" with Busn/Cheney/McBush has gotten us into the dire straits we find ourselves in today. These people have so much experience, that we as a people should not be suffering the repercussions of their faulty decision making. This country and its citizens should be soaring and prospering in every aspect but as you can see, that is not the case with"experience". I will take Obama who is a smart visionary, who is a brilliant stategist and who has the wherewithal to inspire people,and who is willing to take brave steps of "Change" to being this country back to "Honor".

Len,

Thanks for the info. He is very unlucky, because it seems that he was on the Oriskany (with the VA-163 Saints) when a fire there killed 44 a year before.

Interesting fact - same thing apparently caused both, use of 1,000 lb bombs from WWII that were deemed unsafe to use in WWII.

Seems like a number of far-right blogs blamed McCain for the incident in the runup to the 2000 GOP primary, but there is nothing to back that up. More likely using 30 year old F-Grade bombs on jet planes was just a bad idea. Gee, who would have thunk that?

And obama didn't steal anything he beat her fair and square!

2008 Voter...

As the current system does not act on free market principles is it impossible to just "start it". Until the old system comes down.

Again, this needs to be done on the state level. Why am I to be held back because MS and AR and OK can't get their act together? On healthcare? On education (Hatch in UT)? On environmental standards (Arnold in CA)?

But every time states try to buck the system and implement their own standards the Feds slap them down. The GOP favors states rights when it is not in power, and denies them when it is.

You cannot have it both ways.

DL,

What about the challenge?
I'll repeat: Can 40M citizens who believe so strongly in nationalizing Healthcare - come together and start their own Healthcare system?

I mean 40m people - all throwing money into a collective pot. Come on. Do it. Do it. Start your own national healthcare system. Show us how it's done.

2008 Voter...

I am a liberal that wants states rights for a lot of things, and healthcare is #1 on my list. This is not a right v left issue - I actually think that Romney has it right. We cannot continue to allow people to remain uninsured, show up at the ER - and then have you and me pick up their tab in the form of higher premiums.

Because THAT is socialized medicine! You and me paying for someone else.

And remeber Conservatives.. If it wasn't for libreals/scientist I think you guys call them "wizards" you wouldn't have that millitary technology you love so much!

DL,

That last post of mine should have been aimed at Mcdaddy. Sorry.

"Investment Bankers" - in an article critical of Investment Bankers is typically code for "I don't like a certain group in this country."

2008voter

maybe we should take away the roads you drive on too...

or the defense and military that protects you...do you only want to buy into that...

Lack of Healthcare is killing all of us...

it's killing your social security

it's killing your premiums because people are getting and not paying.

Obama is looking to try and get universal by focusing on cost.

Healthcare balance in this country should eventually be like infrastructure and defense. If you would like out of those systems let us know.

To clarify...

The fire was on the USS Oriskany. Bad day, and seemingly one of the lucky days in a life that - for a while - was decidedly unlucky.

The "shoot downs" the poster is referring to is actually wrong. McCain crashed four planes, it would seem, in peacetime. That seems to me bad luck, and it does not matter to me at all in determining his readiness for POTUS.

Do you mean to say you agree that John Kerry should not have been attacked by the Swift Boat Vets? Bud Day, the leader of that vile group, is now emplyed by McCain to smear Wes Clark.

I have said that I admire McCain's conduct as a POW. But what I admired more - and most - were his efforts in normalizing relations with Vietnam later in life.

That was arguably more courageous, and an act of strength on his part - one not seen often in a world where people hold grudges.

With McCain's flip-flopping all over the place now to suit public opinion polls, I am not sure that the new version would have gone and undertaken that tough diplomatic assignment. And that is disappointing.

I think it's a great story, but it was 21 years ago, so not very relevant. Generally, I love tough guys and McCain is to be admired, but we don't need another cowboy in office. Hopefully, he's simmered down some.

McDaddy

You are wrong...that is trickle down economics and as bright as some think it is...it's not.

I remember a story of him publically humiliating the head of the Arizona young Republicans because the kid did not make the podium lower. McCain looked short when he stood behind it. So he screamed and yelled at the kid in the middle of the lobby.

So classy and courageous, berating a kid that looks up to you.

SO inspiring.

2008Voter

yes that profit I would call evil when the oil companies have now pushed (thank you Charlie Black mr. oil lobbyist) our leaders into saying that whether we are destroying our earth...whether or not global warmign will destroy us further...

it is more important they gain a greater profit and enormous gains ...rather than them take the hit because they want to have a sel;ection that is bigger than what they already have...

the oil companies are doing what they did with the Iraq war...

Just as they used 9/11 to gain entrance to fool us into Iraq...

they are now using 4$ gas to fool us into letting them have access to smaller state officials to lobby states with their billions to allow them access to any place along the coast.

so yeah... they are putting their (record) profits ahead of global warming, America's need to get off oil...ahead of American's giving up food this winter because they can't afford to heat their homes.

Oil is running out...but they have access to lots of oil...it's just not as lucrative of locations...

so this idea that the markets will react to some false notion that we are discovering new oil because we haven't discovered it in the other places ...is false.

dl -

You did not take economics. The middle businesses get thier loans from investment bankers. i.e the stinking rich. A great example of that is the .com boom. the money did not come from the middle to support that sector. it came from investment bankers. If that is what you think Obama premise is for econonomics you are truely lost. You super tax the investment people and they will take thier money offshore and invest it somewhere else.... like China.