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Like we needed Scott McClellan to tell us that this Administration tortures?

While I think that it was well past time for Scott McClellan to come out in the way that he did in SOME of what took place inside of the Bush White House, I also believe that a revelation like this from someone who has held the office that he has, should have resulted in Bush AND Cheney answering questions in an impeachment hearing. These fools should have been impeached LONG AGO for what they've done to the U.S.A. Enough is enough. I know that history will only judge Bush as a FOOL, at the very least, and anything from here on out (with the exception of a McCain presidency) can only be an improvement.

Jake, this post is not up to your usual stellar standard.

Who cares what a dolt like Scott McClellan thinks? He was a fool when he was working in the White House and he's a fool now.

The real scandal is not Guantanamo. The real scandal is the fact that this dunkoff had a job in the White House in the first place.

Interesting that posts disappear here!!

Ya know what? I have a real hard time believing that the White House talking heads don't know that they are being asked to fead us is a load of BS. Scott Mc, Snow, Perino are so simple that they really believe the crap that they hold fourth for the press?

Let's get real!!!!!!!!

Scotty's confessions are extremely valuable. He was a key element in the bamboozling of America, and now he has gotten out, reviewed what he did, and admitted how very, very bad the Bush administration really is.

Is Scotty a flawed individual? Sure. He has been in the middle of the slime, and was the public face justifying the slimemeisters and their behavior. You will not find witnesses to the slime who are not coated in it themselves.

History will redeem Scotty, even as it damns Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, the Neocons and such enablers as Douglas Feith and the members of the White House Iraq Group.

Scott is witnessing to the crimes of this administration while others like Feith are attempting to justify it. As more is proven, those are the two approaches that will be taken by those who want to have any control over their image. The rest will just try to disappear into the woodwork (and if that includes Mary Matelin, we should all be thankful.)

The crimes of this administration are now beyond doubt. The only question now is who will be tarred by those crimes.

An interesting precedent is that after WW II membership in the SS became itself recognized as a criminal act. If you belonged to the SS you were a criminal unless you proved you did not actively commit crimes or facilitate them. That's a precedent that should be applied to the members of the Bush administration.

Only those like Scotty who admit their guilt and explain how they were duped should possibly be to some extent exonerated. The Bush administration is fully as criminal as was the German SS.

Scotty isn't trying to get five minutes of fame. He is trying to avoid going down with the rest of the criminals.

I met yesterday with someone I went to basic training with in 1976. We are both astounded that the military would consider this treatment. I used to be a very proud American.... What in God's name has happened to us???

Scotty is following in his father's footsteps. His father wrote a book accusing his former boss, LBJ, of the assasination of JFK. Like father like son! How can we believe anything Scotty says, he doesn't have any solid evidence of anything in his book. It is all what he thinks may have been said or what may have happened. What a waste of time.

I'm waiting on the book that covers why Barack Obama lied about FISA to cover Pelosi, Reid and Rockefeller (members of the "gang of eight") because they were just as guilty as Bush, Cheny and Rice in illegal wiretapping and torture. That'll be some read. We just lost our 4th Amendment for political cover. Makes ya proud, don't it?

"it is not torture if journalists voluntarily do it for an article or segment.

Posted by: Ronnie Wrangler | Jul 9, 2008 9:28:22 AM"

...and then proclaim that it can only be described as torture. and that's after WILLINGLY subjecting themselves to it knowing that they could stop it at a moment's notice.

There are probably going to be more defections, before the hearings. Eventually, there is going to be justice on the torture issue. We Americans love freedom and civil rights too much to justify such treatment. Cheney and Rumsfeld and anyone else who can be implicated will, eventually. It's just a matter of time.

The question is how high it will go, and how low. Those in the middle will want to distance themselves from this, and that's why I think anyone with a plausible case for having opposed torture will eventually distance themselves from Bush -- before the hearings begin.

He had to rely on the other people at the White House to give him the information he needed, like an empty cup being filled. That clearly wasn't the case. He was on the payroll to deny and that he did fine at the time.

"But when I went out and said, 'we do not torture, that we adhere to our international treaties' and so forth, I was relying on what information was being given to me."

Sounds like: "I was only following orders."

Every administration engaged in a war either sanctions or turns a blind eye to torture. All of them. Then the historians sanitize that for your oh so delicate consumption.

Anyone here remember the look on Cronkite's face when CBS showed the film of captured VC being tossed from the Chinook as the entre to interrogation? Ask a question. Toss one. Ask another question. Toss another one. It seldom got to three. Standard Company ops in those days. Do you really believe that Japanese preferred suicide over capture in as high a numbers as reported or did you read Halsey's orders to the fleet?

I don't feel sorry for McClellan except that he is admitting to being a witless dupe or a liar. Anyone who gets to that position and is not well read enough or studied to understand that this has gone on in every war we've ever fought lied on the job application.

why is bush not impeached grow some democrats IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!!! ALONG WITH CHENEY AND THE WHOLE GANG!!!

This Scottie McClellan figure is quite compelling.

It seems that he fell in with a BAD CROWD at a young and impressionable age and only now realizes the follies of youth.

It happens.

The first two or three chapters of his book are quite good actually.

Sorry, Scott. With Dana Perino, they found an Orwellian liar who is much easier on the eyes.

it is not torture if journalists voluntarily do it for an article or segment.

We need Scott to remind us how the Bush administration feeds us misinformation (sometimes called lies).

Scott, you have had your 5 mins. of fame, go away, can't you get a job. I think all this venem against Bush Admin. is just payback for Bush not backing his mother in her Texas race. Now that Scott is not getting any attention I look for his next move to come out and back Barack!! Everyone with a brain knew this admin. was torturing and that he was lying from the podium, Scott also knew the truth.