Political Punch

Now this phony guy is confident to tell the whole world: I have foreign experience!! I have just spent my weekend in Iraq and Afghanistan!!!! Please add these trips to my thin resume on foreign policy! Please vote for me!!! I have experience on foreign policy! please please!!!!

Rodney, if the Middle East doesn't change then that means the jihad against Western Civilization will continue through the next millenium. We cannot defeat the Islamic terrorists militarily. We also have to change their mindset. And the spreading of democracy is just the first step. We also have to solve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict--the root of the jihad against Western Civilization--with the two-state solution. AND the Muslim schools must end the indoctrination of their youth with their curricula of hatred towards Israel and Western Civilization.

Obviously change in the Middle East won't happen over night...in a year...in a decade...not even in a generation.

Look how long it took for the United States to evolve from a British colony to a full democracy. The Revolutionary War took eight years (1775-1783). It took another four years before the U. S. Constitution was adopted (1787); another year for the ratification (1788); and another 9 months before the First Congress convened (Mar 4, 1789). It took another 77 years before the Civil Rights Act of 1866 was passed giving African-Americans full rights as American citizens. (NOTE: Unfortunately the Compromise of 1877 was a setback for African-Americans in the South, as the rights given to them under the Civil Rights Act of 1866 was no longer enforced.) It was another 54 years before the 19th Amendment was passed and ratified (1920), giving women the right to vote. And it was another 44 years before the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed -- finally giving full rights to ALL Americans. That took ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY-NINE YEARS (1775-1964).

And then there are two glaring black spots to our history: (1) The Indian Wars--101 years from the convening of the First Congress (1789) to the Massacre at Wounded Knee in 1890--with hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of casualties on both sides; (2) And the Civil War (1861-1865) where over 600,000 Americans lost their lives.

If it took the United States 189 years to become fully democratic (some will argue we still haven't gotten there), how can we give up on the Middle East after just a few years?

Photo op - no substance - a legend in his own mind and in those of his fans. It ain't only Reps that don't like Obama - the feeling crosses party lines and includes Dems and Independs as well. We are bi-partisan when it comes to this - so get over it! Obama is such a fake - why can't y'all see through him? But I guess it is the same hypnosis that carried W to victory 2 terms in a row, and led the Media into being co-conspirators of the Iraq war. The media is as much to blame for the Iraq war as is W, and they are making the same mistake again (or trying to vindicate themselves) by fawning over an empty suit, a man who has no substance and is all things to some people. Wake up America, before it is too late!

Going to Iraq & Afghanistan with Obama & not McCain shows us that you are so Politically Biased in favor of the Democratics that you might as well be called propaganda wing of the Democratic Party.

JA
THE PEOPLE LIVED IN FEAR----sounds like it was here 50 60 years ago------perhaps you would have had a foreign country invade us------people need to deal with their own problems---you can volentier when mccain decides to invade iran---where do you think it will stop---our country will be bankrupt if it dont stop-----

Rodney,
I don't think Obama will be able to stop smoking. He's tried already several times and failed.
If anything, I'd be worried about what Jeremy wrote - Obama reverting to harder drugs like crack, which he was addicted to before.

We need a strong leader who can CONTROL HIMSELF, let alone be Commander-in-Chief and run a nation. This does not bode well. Sorry. That man is weak.

JA
JUST FOR YOU MAYBE OBAMA WILL STOP SMOKING-------however mccains mental capacity in on view for all to see---he is lucky someone did not harm him when he caused fire on aircraft carrier.the guy is NTS

Rodney,
Once again you display your ignorance of the situation in the middle east.
Iraq is now a country on the verge of a true democracy, with general elections. The FIRST in the Middle East.

We do not need to change the behavior of all the people in the MIddle East, just the GOVERNMENTS. The people in those countries weren't happy, especially under Hussein, they lived in fear. These people are hungry for change. The surge worked.

Sorry, but you were wrong, Obama was wrong, even I was wrong.........and McCain was right, the surge worked.

ja
the so called surge is nothing more than the royal flush in an attempt to make bush look better as he is a complete failure---and for you to think we will change the behavior established over thousands of years in these countrys makes you somewhat nieve---sadam was the only thing keeping iran at bay-----do you actually think we can rule the world---sorry the romans tried that one-----once again---WHAT THE HELL ARE WE DOING THERE----YOU DONT SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ARE MADE ON WARS---DOES HALIBURTON STRIKE A CORD.

Rodney,
Ageism is a form of bias as well. Your claim about McCain not knowing what country he's talking about is the lame one.

If you ask me, I'd rather have an old president than one who can't control his ADDICTIONS.

But these aren't reasons to vote. Just reasons that people like you use to try to bash other people when you have no real arguments to put forward.

ja
obama cannot stop smoking----that is a rather lame statement----mccain cannot remember what country he is talking about and right on tv were all could see i wont go into his past as that would be rather cruel---but if you want i can as i have been here all the time and dont need someone to tell me.

Rodney,

There are two issues at play here. Should we have gone to war in Iraq in the first place? - Probably no.

But that is not what we are discussing. The question is, given we were already in Iraq, should we have supported the surge to tame the violence, or pull out and declare defeat?

Obviously the surge worked. We will now be able to set up a DEMOCRATIC ALLY in the middle east. Had we pulled out when Obama wanted to, the country would be overrun with Al Qaeda, civil war, genocide and more humanitarian crisis.

Please just admit that McCain was right about the surge and Obama was wrong, and let's move on. Why is it so difficult for Obama and his ego to admit he was simply WRONG, and that his plan would have led to more humanitiarian crises?

Deb, it's funny you say that about Obama looking like a kid sitting at a grown up's table, because I thought the EXACT same thing.

But in the end you shouldn't judge someone for how they look in a photo op.

That being said, I look forward to Obama admitting he was wrong to vote against the surge. The man's arrogance is really going to destroy him.

ja
and exactly what do you think we will have won---and at what cost financialy---and at what cost in HUMAN lives.----oh i forgot oil companies are bidding on iraq oil------there is absolutely no excuse for this war except to make a few more billionairs-----mccain learn nothing from nam what would be his next step iran

Exatlantic,

That's your biggest criticism of McCain? He's too old?

Well how about the fact Barack Obama is such a weak man, with a weak will, he is unable to stop smoking.

Do we really want a president who is substance-dependent?

(FYI, I think both of these charges carry no weight, I'm just point out if you want to play that game of personal attack it can be done on both ends.)

Rodney,
We lost the war in Vietnam, we are on the verge of winning it in Iraq thanks to people like McCain who supported the surge. OBVIOUSLY, McCain DID learn a lot from Vietnam.

Apparently, McCain took a very unpopular position by supporting the surge, while Obama took the safe position, but McCain was dead right.

That's the mark of a true leader. Someone who doesn't pander to popular opinion in order to do what he knows will benefit the country in the end.

Deb, I suppose for people like you, if you don't like Obama, anything he does is just not right in your eyes (not to forget your precious husband's).

For those of US who don't like McCain, nothing he does is right is our eyes. The man is just plain too old and bent out of shape to run anything. Ahm, he might have to take too many naps and we don't expect the President to the most powerful country to ever be caught napping, now, do we? Maybe that's ok for you and, less I forget - your husband - but it is not ok for the rest of America and the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

paul-------and then add in the innocent iraq men women and children killed or crippled--as they seem to be the forgotten casulties---it is a shame that so many have suffered and died on both sides---and for nothing.

the old geser did not learn a think from vietnam--here he is with same ideas about iraq-----bet he wont wet start a plane again. wow what a dummy

Turns out the Iraqi PM DOES NOT back Obama's plan. It was translated wrong. Obama is such an elitist!