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Obama: For Denouncing Clark Before He Was Against It?

July 01, 2008 7:22 PM

FROM GUEST-BLOGGER RICK KLEIN, from ABC's The Note.

Per ABC's Sunlen Miller, Sen. Barack Obama said the following at a press availability in Zanesville, Ohio this afternoon: “I think in at least one publication [it] was reported that my comments yesterday about Senator McCain were in a response to General Clark. I think my staff will confirm that that was in a draft of that speech that I had written two months ago.”

That’s an interesting response -- one that might have surprised members of Obama’s own press staff. When reporters (this one included) contacted the Obama campaign Monday morning to ask about his response to Wesley Clark’s comments, they were told to watch the speech.

And the response might have surprised Obama himself -- Monday Obama, at least.

This was the question asked Monday by a reporter from ABC’s Kansas City affiliate, KMBC: "Yesterday Wesley Clark, on ‘Face the Nation,’ said because John McCain got shot down that doesn't make him a leader. That seems to be violating the very rule you talked about today about questioning the military service of anybody."

Obama's answer: "Well, which is why I was very clear that General Clark's remarks don't reflect my beliefs. I have consistently said that John McCain is a genuine American hero and his service deserves to be honored."

To recap: Monday Obama was "very clear General Clark's remarks don't reflect my beliefs." Tuesday was cloudier: His comments were not in response to what General Clark said.

Tuesday Obama also said that while Clark’s comments were "inartful," they were not in the same ballpark as the Swift Boat attacks on Sen. John Kerry.

"I don’t think that General Clark you know had the same intent as the Swift Boat ads that we saw four years ago -- I reject that analogy," Obama said.

This is what Obama actually said, in his speech in Independence, Mo.: "For those like John McCain who have endured physical torment in service to our country -- no further proof of such sacrifice is necessary."

"Let me also add that no one should ever devalue [military] service, especially for the sake of a political campaign, and that goes for supporters on both sides," Obama continued. "We must always express our profound gratitude for the service of our men and women in uniform. Period -- full stop."

After the speech, campaign spokesman Bill Burton issued this statement: "As he's said many times before, Senator Obama honors and respects Senator McCain's service, and of course he rejects yesterday's statement by General Clark."

Taking Obama up on his offer to have his staff confirm details of his speech, I contacted the Obama campaign Tuesday to find out if those last two sentences were added to the speech with Clark in mind. I’ll let you know when I get a response.

I did get this more generic response from an Obama spokesman: "This is a speech he's been working on for some time, and as he has said numerous times before, Senator Obama respects and honors John McCain’s service to his country and wanted to recognize that in his remarks on patriotism in America."

Obama has been consistent in honoring McCain -- but less so in his message on Clark.

What changed between Monday and Tuesday? For one thing, the liberal blogosphere rallied to Clark’s defense (and against the mainstream media).

But you don't have to get into motivations to reach another conclusion: Obama's hints of waffling on whether he wants to denounce Clark or go easy on him seems certain to keep this in the ether for another day.

McCain dialed up the pressure Tuesday afternoon: "I think it's up to Sen. Obama now to not only repudiate him, but to cut him loose," he told reporters on board his campaign plane en route to Colombia, per ABC’s Bret Hovell.

-- Rick Klein

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it is to bad we have ended up with the two weakest candidates for president.
i have said all along people are going to suffer from having either obama or mccain as president. and listening to cspan this am, people are suffering, and these two do not have the answers,
you can see from the articles here that we have to comment on, these guys are not about the american people.
and slowly even the suppporters of these people will see, neither mccain or obama are about the american people.
and especially obama, obama has been and is all about HIS making history,
qualifications aside, able to take care of the peoples business aside, let' help obama make history.
and that is mostly what he is all about, i watched one of his ads this am. he says "that' why I am running for president" or "when I am president" and his tone really is, as if he dosen't even believe it himself.

and saying either will be better than bush is not helpful.
and think about it, we say that, but both could end up being worse than bush.
no one will admit it, but
we messed up this time.

Posted by: w | Jul 2, 2008 8:02:33 AM

God help America if this idiot gets into the White House. He couldn't make a hard and firm decision to save his life - or ours.

Posted by: HoosierSue | Jul 2, 2008 7:42:35 AM

Senatoe McCain has a long record as a leader; there is no question in my mind that he is ready to lead on day one. What is laughable is that Clark questioned McCain's ability to lead while giving the inexperienced Obama a free pass.

Posted by: BJinChicago | Jul 2, 2008 5:44:40 AM

Obama wasn't backing down on what he said earlier about Clark, for goodness sake! He was merely saying that the lines in his speech weren't specifically aimed at Clark.

This "criticism" is begging the question. First off you have to assume that Obama really was referring to Clark in the speech. Then you can say the "reversal" would surprise "Monday Obama". Jake should just look into whether the remarks were actually directed at Clark, in the first place, before jumping to talk of a "reversal".

This is the picture the media is trying to paint of Obama right now. It's lazy. Half the time they don't even know what the original stance was, they just push everything into the same mold whether it fits or not.

Posted by: Rocky | Jul 2, 2008 5:12:48 AM

Thank you, Rob, for the details on why Gen. Clark was fired. I knew he was fired, but couldn't easily find out why, even after I googled Clark.

It is so nice to see a post with some actual information.

Now will someone please address something really important like the economy?

It would be so nice if each of these blogs addressed a different issue and different facts were presented - e.g., a health care blog, a tax blog, a religion/faith-based support blog, and so forth, instead of name-calling and personal attacks.

Posted by: Fed up in Washington state | Jul 2, 2008 2:51:26 AM

Senator McCain's resume is completely full and professional. Obama's has a very thin resume anbd filled with Rezko, Ayers, Sinclair, Rev. Wright, Trinty Church (hate and racism against) White people) and other questionable supporters. His state senate run was a sham. Just ask those who served with him. Senator Obama is basically dishonest and not deserving of the candidancy.

Posted by: Mary | Jul 2, 2008 2:10:39 AM

Who is Clark to be questioning anyone's ability to lead? He was fired as NATO Commander after he ordered British troops to attack Russians who had moved into positions vacated by the Serbs. Luckily the British general declined to start World War Three by just following orders he knew were stupid.

Posted by: Rob | Jul 2, 2008 1:00:51 AM

McCain is trying to base his campaign on his military experience because his pathetic record reflects a virtual lock step mirror of voting with Bush on nearly every damn thing. Of course he's going to get his panties in knot when a fellow military man calls him out on the only thing that's distracting voters from the fact that McCain is a bona-fide Bushie, and that a McCain presidency is indeed a third Bush term. Voters will not have that. Deal with that Jo.

Posted by: GOP08_DOA | Jul 2, 2008 12:14:09 AM

Clark said that McCain didn't learn from his experience in Vietnam and didn't show good judgment by being a strong advocate for going to war with Iraq. So Clark was exactly right.

McCain showed poor judgment and it cost the lives of thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis while squandering over 500 billion dollars of the US tax payers hard earned money.

So, again, Clark was exactly right. So maybe it takes a war hero (Clark) to be able to criticize another war hero (McCain).

Posted by: Marcel F. Williams | Jul 1, 2008 11:59:37 PM

Obama gets contributions from crooked profiteers who are slum lords to his own constituents and this makes him qualified to be our commander?

Thanks to Ayers, he becomes chairman of the Annenberg Chicago Challenge and in 5 years spends $100 mil on certain Chicago schools that turn out not to have improved appreciably from the schools that were not helped. And for this he wants to be the shepherd of the economy?

Lets forget this patriotism farce and get back to the question... "what makes Obama qualified?" Clark could not answer that so he attacked McCain. Why doesn't Clark answer the question?!

Posted by: SmartPrimate | Jul 1, 2008 11:53:48 PM

Why are 9 out of every 10 posts about Obama? Isn't there another person in this race? How about giving him some scrutiny?

Posted by: Sammy | Jul 1, 2008 11:32:34 PM

sooo very convenient for Sen Mccain...Obama should cut Clark loose... talk about leading by example Where is Black?

Posted by: Esther | Jul 1, 2008 11:09:13 PM

Senator BHO is making Senator Kerry look like a straight shooter. So many flips in 3 weeks time

The democratic party always find a way to lose

Posted by: Indus | Jul 1, 2008 11:01:03 PM

Wow! All this knit picking is so rediculous. It has nothing to do with the price of gas or putting food on the table or with health care.

I don't even know much about this Clark guy and I have seen what he has said on television, and frankly, he's right. Everyone's jumping on someone for having an opinion in America! Wow, we sure are holier than Thou, aren't we? We just jump all over something anyone says these days. The guy didn't even say anything wrong or bad. Lots of people share his thoughts and feelings. I mean, do you have to serve in the military to do lots of things? No. It is not something that qualifies you to do it all, including President of the USA. He didn't say McCain was stupid or anything.

As for Obama, he has no reason to say he's sorry for anything. He didn't say it, and frankly, he told us what he thought in his speech. But everyone always tries to tie him to the mouths of others. If we did that to everyone we knew, no one would even be on speaking terms. Bottom line...we're making mountains out of mole hills. I'm an Independent voter. None of this he said she said, did you hear this, did you hear that playground stuff is going to influence me.

Obama is clearly the best man for the job.

Obama 08!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Vegas | Jul 1, 2008 10:38:46 PM

I guess Clark and Webb are part of the elitists amongst Obama’s campaign. Their attitude towards McCain is their assessment of other military service men who did not make to be a four-star general.

Posted by: linda | Jul 1, 2008 10:36:55 PM

Good Judgment. Senator Obama has based his entire campaign for president on his opposition to the Iraq War as an example of his good judgment. He takes credit for opposing a vote that he was never asked to make while not representing a constituency, especially one that was directly affected by the attacks of September 11, 2001. This only proves that it easy to play Monday morning quarterback in the relative comfort of your own home.

Now Ret. Gen. Wesley Clark, a supporter and surrogate for the presumptive nominee, is claiming that this Good Judgment is a superior qualification for Commander-in Chief than a full military education at the United States Naval Academy in Annapolis and service to our country during a war. As a voter that will not support or vote for either candidate, I think it is the poorest of judgment on the part of this candidate and his campaign to field a surrogate that promotes this view. We all know that our military academy graduates are trained to command troops in times of war or peace.

While I too opposed the war from the start I do not pretend that this makes me qualified to be Commander-in-Chief. I am concerned about the safety of our troops. On the matter of military affairs and national security I would trust the judgment of the Annapolis trained Naval Officer over the Monday morning quarterback to make decisions or to command our troops.

Posted by: am smith | Jul 1, 2008 10:35:24 PM

I believe Mr. Clark is a bullet proof example of a valuable American asset. I don't suspect there are many US soldiers in the political domain that possess the currency and moxy this man brings. Mr. McCain has endured a crushing personal event, but this is an event that his advocates and supporters do treasure provided they don't get any on them. Mr. Clark connects with the sense of security that Americans trust. I doubt Mr. Obama is willing to abandon the spirit of vigilance that was so absent in the uncertain years of the recent past.

Posted by: mike | Jul 1, 2008 10:23:29 PM

I care more about the economy so I'm posting this "Barack Obama on the economy" Fortune's Washington editor, Nina Easton, interviewed Barack Obama

Obama: I think that if we don't get a handle on our energy policy, it is possible that the kinds of trends we've seen over the last year will just continue.

Demand is clearly outstripping supply. It's not a problem I think we can drill our way out of. Consumers are obviously painfully having to adapt to rising gas prices, but it can be a drag on our economy for a very long time unless we take steps to innovate and invest in the research and development that's required to find alternative fuels, make our transportation system much more energy-efficient. Retool our industry and our buildings. And the market can accomplish a lot of that through some pretty wrenching retooling, but I think it's very important for the federal government to have a role in that process as well. So that's something that is immediate.

No Ground Hog Day movie for this voter. Nina Easton is covering a issue we all care about.

Posted by: Donna | Jul 1, 2008 9:56:21 PM

Do we need to remind the media that there is a war in Iraq going on? For the pass three days the media has us reliving the Vietnam war. If I wake up on the July 4th and see this story its going to seem like the movie Ground Hogs day. Then George Stephanopoulos will beat it to death on his show on Sunday. Well Jake,Rick and George relive the Vietnam war, I would like to give a shout out our currents troops and heroes in Iraq. You are not forgotten by the people!

Posted by: Tommy | Jul 1, 2008 9:39:02 PM

Just so you understand your simile's, Benedict Arnold was THE most capable general in the American Revolutionary Army, personally led troops in many daring exploits and had his leg shot off, and single-handedly created the US Navy. The reason he tried to turn West Point over to the British, was the rest of the US army was overrun with ignorant elitists trying to look good by serving as officers in a war as befitting their status as rich heirs. Sort of like George Bush without the stupid cowboy talk.

Posted by: hiendurance | Jul 1, 2008 9:33:51 PM

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