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Obama: Servicing Service
July 03, 2008 11:02 AM
FROM GUEST-BLOGGER RICK KLEIN, from ABC's The Note.
Back in May, when Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., filled in for Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., at Wesleyan University’s commencement, he chose public service as his topic.
He spoke expansively about his own choice of service -- notably his decision to accept a job as a community organizer instead of going straight to law school out of college. But it’s something he left out that drew more attention.
Here’s what New York Times columnist Bill Kristol wrote last month, in a piece that’s gotten wide circulation among anti-Obama bloggers:
“More striking is Obama’s sin of omission. In the rest of the speech, he goes on to detail -- at some length -- the ‘so many ways to serve’ that are available ‘at this defining moment in our history.’ There’s the Peace Corps, there’s renewable energy, there’s education, there’s poverty -- there are all kinds of causes you can take up ‘should you take the path of service.’ ”
“But there’s one obvious path of service Obama doesn’t recommend -- or even mention: military service. He does mention war twice: ‘At a time of war, we need you to work for peace.’ And, we face ‘big challenges like war and recession.’ But there’s nothing about serving your country in uniform.”
Taking up the service mantle again this week -- and with the issue of service in the news because of the comments by Wesley Clark -- Obama wasn’t about to repeat his omission.
On Wednesday, speaking in front of a veteran-heavy audience in Colorado Springs, he touted his plan for an expanded military, and included this in the context of service:
“We need to ease the burden on our troops while meeting the challenges of the 21st Century,” Obama said. “That is why I will call on a new generation of Americans to join our military.”
Wondering what Obama has said about his own decision not to serve in the military?
“I didn't serve, as many people my age, because the Vietnam war was over by the time I was of draft age and we went to an all-volunteer Army,” he told reporters in late May.
-- Rick Klein
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We admit it. We're stupid. We're as blindly loyal to McCain no matter what - just as the Bush fans are.
Posted by: Mccainiacs | Jul 7, 2008 12:49:42 PM
There are so many sides to Senator Obama's mouth, the expression, "he speaks out of both sides of his mouth" is inadequate to capture the inexorable political manipulations of this obvious poseur.
Posted by: Thank God for Karma | Jul 6, 2008 11:21:04 PM
>>> john"s conscience:
'In other words, your response is that NO, John McCain never worked with the unemployed like Barack Obama!'
____________________
BUT MCCAIN D I D serve his country both in the military, state-wise and in the senate for a good many years.
And MCCAIN does not have ties to people ANlike REZKO and ODINGO and
RASHID KHALIDI and NACHMI AUCHI and
and BILL AYRES and BERNADINE DOHRN and FERRAKHAN and REV MEEKS .....
As for the $750,000 credit card.... is he overdrawn?
SO WHAT'S YOUR POINT?
HILLARY BEFORE MCCAIN!!!
MCCAIN BEFORE B O(?),B H O(?), BARRY(?)
COUNTRY BEFORE broken down dnc PARTY!!!
Posted by: hmmmm | Jul 5, 2008 2:21:35 PM
Dear Hmmmm,
In other words, your response is that NO, John McCain never worked with the unemployed like Barack Obama!
Well, that doesn't surprise me at all. He and his 750,000 dollar credit card wife have NO IDEA of the challenges faced by the middle class.
BUT JOHN MCCAIN HAS TOTAL EMPATHY FOR CHARLES KEATING!!!
BTW, my original question refered to Obama's experience as a community activist, before he received his law degree, before he became a state senator.
Posted by: John's conscience | Jul 5, 2008 12:52:49 AM
James Danley,
Actually I believe I heard that there was
some transferability at 6 years and then an increase at 10 years. And yes this was a compromise between the Senate and the House bills (Compromise of House and Senate bills before they leave the Congress is quite common if not the norm)
And of course th G.I bill was attached to an Iraq appropriation bill as well.
Posted by: AnotherLaura | Jul 3, 2008 4:33:05 PM
smith- Encouraging citizens to voluntarily serve in the military is not the same as reinstating the draft. To my knowledge, no candidate as stated that they would reinstate the draft; The closest any candidate has come is McCain who said when asked if he was concerned about the overextension of the military with maintaining wars in Irag and Afghanistan said that it might be so if we continued with an all-volunteer military.
Posted by: AnotherLaura | Jul 3, 2008 4:28:25 PM
AnotherLaura, President Bush dropped his opposition to this GI Bill with the addition of transferability which was added by the House. It was not part of the original bill passed by the Senate. Also, the military member would have to have at least 10 years of service in order to be eligible for the transferability of benefits. At least now there is some incentive to remain in the service. But it will still be a very serious problem if large numbers of new enlistees do not re-enlist after their three years of duty.
Posted by: James Danley | Jul 3, 2008 4:25:44 PM
bhagwandeol-
You don't sound much like a Dem to me lol.
Barack Obama said that the needs to address poverty, and other social needs exceed the government's ability to address alone and that it is reasonable to leverage faith-based and other NGOs (non-government organizations). He seeks to improve upon the faith-based agenda of Pres. Bush by requiring enhanced accountablility, restricting of any of these federal funds to be used for proselytizing,requiring there to be no litmus test of religious affiliation for hiring or service for any faith-based charities' activities within this program; This would be a significant improvement over the existing arrangement and would maintain separation of church and state issues.
As there would be no litmus test for religious affilitation, I would presume that there would be no restriction upon
which religious organization (Christian, Hindu, Muslim, Jew etc) was running a particular program as long as it legitimately addressed the needs and fulfilled the restrictions of no proselytizing, no religious litmus test
and was accountable. BTW: It has been established again and again that Barack Obama is not and never was a Muslim so you really need to stop beating that dead horse.
Posted by: AnotherLaura | Jul 3, 2008 4:23:04 PM
Jo,
Starting with 1953, republicans president for 36 years, democrats 20 years. Dems controlled the senate for 26 straight years from 55-81. Looks like you lose again. Finally found one that does know something.
Posted by: jerryc | Jul 3, 2008 4:02:39 PM
James Danley,
The Webb/Hagel G.I bill which passed the Congress and is currently with Pres. Bush who has not only said he will sign it but has now taken credit for he and McCain on its passage even though neither ever got on board.(He creditted Webb but neglected to credit Hagel)The bill includes educational benefits to G.I with service >= 3 years AND allows transfer of educational benefits to spouse and children of G.I. with increased service.
Posted by: AnotherLaura | Jul 3, 2008 3:57:55 PM
Jo, I am not accusing McCain of anything. I am being deleted for pointing out the hypocisy beneath the bias of Mr.Kristol and Klein. Neither served thie country in uniform but they are quick to criticize others who followed their path. And both previous posts lasted less than 10 minutes.
Posted by: ricky | Jul 3, 2008 3:50:11 PM
Oops I just checked and I have an SUV in the garage, I just ate a great meal and my thermostat is on 72.
Oh nooooo! I forgot to ask the rest of the world for permission!!!
don't arrest me Obama....PLEASE!!!!
Lol.
Posted by: Jo | Jul 3, 2008 3:46:21 PM
Jo - Some US Budget Deficit stats for you in billions of $.
Start Finish Peak
Carter - 60 90 90
Reagan - 110 260 290
Bush 1 - 260 410 430
Clinton- 350 10 350
Bush 2 - 140 560 560
Bush data thru 2002. Who is doing all the spending?
Posted by: jerryc | Jul 3, 2008 3:39:32 PM
So what you will get and it is pretty clear just on these posts. Are people who are scared of change= conservatives
and people the relize something has got to give and have the courage and strength to make it happen= Liberal/progressives/brave conservatinves.
So you have scared consevatives that just shout acusations and name calling. It's ok don't be scared. LOL!!!
You know that movie poltergist Mcsame looks like the creepy guy that tries to get caroline.. Don't go to the light!!
Posted by: Joe | Jul 3, 2008 3:33:26 PM
Jo,
Not saying the military service is bad, but it's not enough. JM has been on the Senate for a long time. What do we have to show for it? Isn't he the McCain in McCain-Kennedy? Did he not support Lieberman-Warner? For true conservatives, this is not good. What are we to expect from him next?
Posted by: jerryc | Jul 3, 2008 3:23:21 PM
Conservative:
Favoring traditional views and values; tending to oppose change.
Traditional or restrained in style: a conservative dark suit.
Moderate; cautious: a conservative estimate.
Of or relating to the political philosophy of conservatism.
Belonging to a conservative party, group, or movement.
Thats why they hate Obama!
Posted by: Joe | Jul 3, 2008 3:18:23 PM
Joe Lieberman, who had until quite recently been viewed favorably in Connecticut has seen his numbers dive in recent months.
Quinnipiac this week found Lieberman with a 45 percent - 43 percent approval rating, down from 52 percent - 35 percent on March 27 and his lowest score ever.
Enough said about Uncle Joe.
Posted by: Fired UP!! | Jul 3, 2008 3:16:41 PM
We admit it. We're stupid. We're as blindly loyal to Obama no matter what - just as the Bush fans are.
Posted by: Obamabots | Jul 3, 2008 3:10:59 PM
>>>>Uninformed Viewer:
Not to worry!
I'm sure there are a couple of Democratic senators who are still not enamored of B O (Barry?) (B H O?).
Nobody's perfect.....
B U T
Mccain before B O !
COUNTRY BEFORE broken down dnc PARTY!!!
Posted by: hmmmm | Jul 3, 2008 3:10:06 PM
Jerry, if McCain isn't qualified than what does that make Obama? REALLY unqualified.
McCain has years of experience on the senate armed force committee.
Obama did what? community service?
Obama would make a good ambassador. President? No thanks. No way.
And military service is NEVER a liability.
Posted by: Jo | Jul 3, 2008 3:08:58 PM
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