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Ousted Wisconsin Democratic Delegate Speaks

July 28, 2008 12:33 PM

Debbie Bartoshevich is that former Democratic delegate from Wisconsin who supported Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, and vowed to vote for Sen. John McCain. The Wisconsin Democratic Party took away her convention credentials.

Now she's speaking to the press (watch HERE.)

"I have a right to vote for anybody I want to vote for," she says. "I'm putting my country before my party...I'm finished with the party, the Democrat party."

Anyone who calls it "the Democrat party" -- the pejorative used by Republicans -- seems halfway to GOPville anyway.

- jpt

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Can we just agree that the dnc is a private entity and has the right to give and take away credentials as It sees fit? Why should they allow someone at their convention who openly admits that she's voting for the other guy. this isn't about hillary clinton or barack obama. this is about the rules, and some people's refusal to follow them. For those people who were supporting clinton and now say no to obama, look in the mirror with the lights on and ask yourself why. Maybe the answer is clear. 1- HRC was the woman you've been waiting for to be the FIRST ONE. 2- BO is a black man, and you just can't get over that fact. 3- You truly are a republican and were only supporting HRC because she's a woman. Either way, make your choice and do what's in your best interest. but there is no reason to insult a presidential candidate that, really, you don't know.

Posted by: eye-for-an-eye | Jul 28, 2008 6:39:38 PM

Our Budget deficit set a new record, half a trillion dollars,and people want to put another republican in office to finish the destruction of America that Bush started. Our troops are still being killed by the enemy, and then coming home and killing themselves because they cant function and our government doesn't do right by them.

1st of all, Hillary lost due to the fact that she ran a sub par campaign. I know its hard people, but its the truth.

2nd: anyone that thinks Clinton,Obama,Mcsame,or anyone else running is going to come in and magically fix the issues it took Bush 8 years to put in place, is a dumb ass..

You people are suffering, and will continue to suffer especially if you put McCain in office. He has stated on numerous occasions that the economy is not his strong point. He cant fix the issues caused by Bush, cause he thinks Bush is doing the right thing.

Ask yourself this, are you better today than you were years ago. If answering truthfully, that answer is No.


Posted by: Poor Poor McCain | Jul 28, 2008 6:04:11 PM

Wow! I think this is just the beginning. No matter how much the MSM tries to deny it, the democratic party is divided. I, too, will never under any circumstances, vote for BHO -- the scariest man to ever run for POTUS in my lifetime.

Posted by: nutrina | Jul 28, 2008 5:51:24 PM

Oh,suddenly the rules of Delegates supporting who they are suppose to support means something to BO supporters. Some here call the Wisconsin delegate an idiot, well just beware that there are a lot of men and women who feel this was an unjust, undemocratic primary. Whether or not they vote for McCain doesn't matter, what matters is THEY WILL NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA....calling them names and rejecting them is just as idiotic if you want the Dems to win. I will gladly write Hillary in thick permanent marker for my vote if she doesn't at least get VP because Obama alone, will not be my choice EVER, not this way.

Posted by: irma | Jul 28, 2008 5:03:36 PM

"To openly state otherwise is against the rules."
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Oh, the "rules". The rules that seem to make it okay for the Democratic "leadership" to join with the corporate press to anoint a "post-partisan" pretty boy as a DEMOCRAT, based mostly on his birthday suit and fictive biography??

And mightn't there some teeny overlooked section in the "rules" that prohibits such a candidate from lying like a rug all over Iowa, claiming to have passed an Exelon-based nuclear bill which in fact did NOT pass?

Posted by: Belle Starr | Jul 28, 2008 4:47:51 PM

-Well, displaced Democrat Cynthia McKinney -- run out for insufficient obeisance to AIPAC -- is running in the Green Party.-

McKinney is too angry, plus I know the Green Party from the inside. They take anyone, and I mean anyone, just to make headlines and continue to be relevant...Nader usually for me, but to stick it to the non-dem. Dems, placing my vote on McCain.

Posted by: hype bites | Jul 28, 2008 4:36:16 PM

Hum. A private citizen states a choice. Fine! As a delegate to the Democratic National Convention she must adhere to the rules which state you will support the Democratic candiate, whoever it may be. To openly state otherwise is against the rules. Before anyone begins to attack, most primaries are not open, in order to vote in them you must declare a party affiliation. This has been challenged and upheld at the Supreme Court.

Come on everyone get a grip. The rules are essentially the same for a Republican delegate. You pledge to support the candiate of your party. The delegates are selected at the state conventions usually. Does anyone really think she would have been chosen if she had stated this preference before the selection process?

The name calling, back stabbing, cluelessness and yelling does not change anything either way. We apparently have our major party candiates for the election. Look at them make your decision based on your values and preferences. Stop this. I for one am getting tired of it and have this year not donated to either side nor have I made up my mind who to vote for in November. I have just this to say, even though I live in Arizona, I do not plan to vote for McCain. I am currently open to a third party candiate. P.S. I did vote for McCain for Senator but never again. He has caved in to the current administration and that I personally can not understand why.

Posted by: Dave | Jul 28, 2008 4:30:40 PM

Debbie Bartoshevich has alot of company. I'm finished with the Democrat party too. The Dems are a bunch of losers who will stab you in the back at the drop of a hat, just like Howard Dean, Donna Brazile and Obama knifed the Clintons in the back.

Posted by: OxyCon | Jul 28, 2008 4:25:17 PM

This whole election process is rigged. I applaud Debbie Bartoshevich for her convictions. Shame on the DNC Party!

Posted by: sue | Jul 28, 2008 4:22:35 PM

"I'm done with the Democratic party, too."
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Well, displaced Democrat Cynthia McKinney -- run out for insufficient obeisance to AIPAC -- is running in the Green Party.

Posted by: Belle Starr | Jul 28, 2008 4:14:31 PM

This rubbish people talking about what she is going to go the democratic national convention and vote for McCain. I am from Wisconsin and she was Hillary delegate which means she was going to cast her vote for Hillary at the convention she has the right to vote for Hillary at the convention. The democratics are big bullies trying to silence the people who oppose them. this was wrong, number one it won't stop her from voting for McCain in the GE and it makes the democrats look like jerks. I mean where to the democrats get off I mean ron paul is even having his own convention and the republicans arent throwing a fit, you mean this lady can't come to the convention and cast her vote for Hillary? I am from Wisconsin and I find this disgusting.

Posted by: rachel | Jul 28, 2008 4:12:55 PM

Poor Debbie, yet another HRC dead-ender.

She can vote in the GE for whoever she wishes, but she obviously is not a member of the 'Democratic' Party, and is not deserving of such credentials, nor of representing her fellow Democrats at the convention.

Debbie is just another Harriet Myers- a vindictive woman who wants to cause havoc because 'her girl' didn't get the nomination.

So long, Debbie!

Posted by: MoeJoe | Jul 28, 2008 4:02:00 PM

Why are we talking about "PUMA" voters? and why are we labeling anyone who is not Obama supporter as a "racist"? The only person we can't trust is Obama. It has always been about him getting ahead.

Posted by: stan | Jul 28, 2008 3:56:33 PM

McCain supporters,

These PUMA voters cannot be trusted. The are either Republicans in disguise or they are supporting McCain because they are sure that Hillary will be the Democratic nominee in 2012 and she will beat McCain. You might not take them seriously because these Hillary supporters also were sure that Hillary would beat McCain this year. But as the result of this year's Democratic primary showed, there is no such thing as a sure thing in politics, so I will not completely dismiss them if I were you. If I were McCain, after the election is over I would invade Iran and draft these Hillary supporters into the army. That way, they would not be a threat in 2012.

Posted by: anthony | Jul 28, 2008 3:51:20 PM

WOW, she was an elected CLINTON Delegate that was going to vote for Clinton at the Convention in AUGUST, as she was elected to do.
Then, because she felt that Obama was unworthy to vote for in NOVEMBER, she got thrown out of her ELECTED seat?
This is not only not right for her, but it screws the people who voted for her to be Delegate!
Unbelievable. I was on the fence on this election, but if this is what my 40 years loyalty to a Party has helped create, I am ashamed.
I'm done with the Democratic party, too.
Fini.

Posted by: RoBoTech | Jul 28, 2008 3:43:55 PM

"Obama is a neocon in liberal clothing."
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YES, he IS.

If the Democratic Party passes on His nomination, maybe he can be the Republican nominee.

IF his poor little ow-ie hip gets better, of course ...

Posted by: Belle Starr | Jul 28, 2008 3:41:49 PM

That is why there are more than 2 parties and an Independent Category to choose from ...

This is America. Do whatever you want and STOP BITCHIN" ...

President O. '09

Posted by: John Doe | Jul 28, 2008 3:41:38 PM

This IDIOT sure may vote for whomever.
The point is - she should not be Democratic Party Candidate.

Well, stupid woman, today You betrayed this party, tomorrow - who would be next?

As always - less mind, more ambitions.
Go for McBush for his beer wealth.

Posted by: Linda,Fl | Jul 28, 2008 3:41:27 PM

Idiot.
And PUMA is a group of IDIOTS.

Posted by: Linda,Fl | Jul 28, 2008 3:37:51 PM

I hope this expulsion creates a bigger backlash. I hope more voters will leave the Democratic party and vote for McCain. Bullying delegates and voters is not very democratic.

Posted by: sue | Jul 28, 2008 3:35:42 PM

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