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Title - Read McCain's Lips
July 29, 2008 7:37 AM
My former next-door neighbor Ramesh Ponnuru of the National Review takes note of an apparent flip-flop by Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., on taxes.
In March 2007 McCain told Ponnuru the following:
Ponnuru: If you could get the Democrats to agree, or at least to come to the table on entitlements or on tax simplification, are those circumstances under which you’d be willing to accept a tax increase?
Sen. McCain: No; no.
PONNURU: No circumstances?
Sen. McCain: No. None. None.
But on This Week with George Stephanopoulos Sunday McCain sounded a bit different, saying of Social Security, "I am a supporter of sitting down together and putting everything on the table and coming up with an answer. So, there is nothing I would take off the table. There was nothing I would demand. I think that's the way that Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neill did it. And that's what we have to do again...
"I have said and will say, I will say that everything has to be on the table, if we're going to reach a bipartisan agreement," McCain continued. "I've been in bipartisan negotiations before. I know how you reach a conclusion. We all have to sit down together with everything on the table."
Asked George: "So, that means payroll tax increases are on the table, as well?"
"There is nothing that's off the table," McCain responded. "I have my positions, and I'll articulate them. But nothing's off the table. I don't want tax increases. Of course I'd like to have young Americans have some of their money put into an account with their name on it. But that doesn't mean that anything is off the table."
- jpt
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Bill C., the last time I looked out my door it wasn't 1860. Lincoln's lack of experience would make him too risky a choice to tackle the national and international problems facing our next president. In that regard, Lincoln and Obama are equal.
Posted by: marylou | Jul 29, 2008 9:05:20 AM
I really think it is sad that most of the people posting on this page have bought into the hype and marketing of Obama. He has done nothing to earn the job of president of the USA.
He was a senator for 1 year before he started running for office. His speeches are written by a 26 year old. He has been mass marketed by the DNC and the media. All of his "powerful words" have been stolen for other people. He is arrogant and talks down to the American people. He acts like he has this amazing judgment and that he will explain Washington to the ignorant masses. I know America has to be smarter than this. Lets hope the media's love affair with Obama is near its end!
Democrat for McCain!
Posted by: JamesDuck | Jul 29, 2008 9:00:16 AM
Tim,
I agree. Experience is over-rated, I will take judgement anyday. McCain STILL wont admit that going into Iraq was the biggest mistake in the history of the United States. Wasted blood and treasure for what? So McCain and Bush could live out a toy soldier fantasy?
McCain wants to kick Russia and China out of the G8. Great way to start another Cold War. Moron!
Posted by: Mayor McCheese | Jul 29, 2008 9:00:11 AM
Ever notice that when Obama has a problem, his supporters try to paint his opponent with that fault?
A flipflop is when a candidate changes their position from week to week and speech to speech.
A shift is when a candidate changes their position due to changing circumstances.
While nothing is absolute, overall Obama has had more flipflops while McCain has had more shifts.
Posted by: marylou | Jul 29, 2008 9:00:00 AM
It is a shame the alleged "lack of experience" is used like a sledge hammer whenever Sen. McCain goofs up and his supporters need to change the subject. One of our greatest presidents had similar experience to Sen. Obama and he came from Illinois to boot, President Abraham Lincoln.
I mean no offense to Sen. McCain, but he does not have the intelligence nor the judgment of Sen. Obama. I respect Sen. McCain's service to our country, but we have had enough of the "good ol' boys." If you make less than $250,000/yr and you vote for Sen. McCain, you are voting against your own best interest.
Posted by: Bill C. | Jul 29, 2008 8:58:20 AM
Sometimes you will read comments and see something like, "Obama is an empty suit, he will say whatever it takes to get what he wants."
I have no problem with that because i belive that what Obama wants is America to be a great country again. And by great I mean, not in debt, regarded highly by other countries, full of successful intellegent people, important in global trade, and energy independent.
If he has to say "whatever it takes" to get this job done, then so be it.
Unfortunity McCain says whatever it takes as well, but all he wants is to pay back the lobbyists that funded his campaign. If that means going further into debt, taxing poor people more without raising rich taxes, further opening the wound we call our reputation with the world, or killing inocent civilians in wars then so be it.
Obama's lack of experience trumps McCains old style experience anyday.
Posted by: Tim | Jul 29, 2008 8:45:56 AM
Maria wrote:
There are 70 documented mcsame flipflops here...your article now raises the total to 71.
*************
Does the count include McCain's flip on car emission standards? McCain said he was for federally regulated emission standards, but on July 18th he told a group of GM employees he is now FORD state regulated emission standards. This would be a death knell to the US Auto Industry. The Detroit newspapers have been all over this, but the MSM has ignored it.
So guess the count is now 72?
Posted by: Mayor McCheese | Jul 29, 2008 8:42:11 AM
Changes his mind about Taxes.
Changes his mind about Immagration.
Changes his mind about afirmmative action.
changes his mind about getting out of Iraq.
Changes his mind on gas tax holiday.
changes his mind on talking to opposing leaders.
Seems like all his ideas are wrong when he first thinks them up, then after being badgered by other people about his poor ideas, he changes them.
He isn't a flip-flopper, he just makes bad decisions. He is a trial and error kind of president.
Posted by: Tim | Jul 29, 2008 8:39:31 AM
my point exactly....McCain has flipped on everything in order to win an election. He will never get the media scrutint that Obama does.
(here they come to clean this up for flipCain)
Posted by: watching | Jul 29, 2008 8:37:03 AM
"Jukebox John keeps changing his tune"
There are 70 documented mcsame flipflops here...your article now raises the total to 71.
GMAB
He is so pathetic. First he supports bush, then he slams Bush, then he takes his fundraising money...GMAB.
More crooks..do not want.
Posted by: MariaWr | Jul 29, 2008 8:33:45 AM
As you libs slept, a major Shell oil pipeline was destroyed by terrorists in Nigeria. It won't likely be the last. The cost of oil is headed up again.
This is reason enough to votr for McCain and not Barack Hussein Obama.
Posted by: Larry Clifton | Jul 29, 2008 8:32:41 AM
Does this guy have any "core principles" left? If he's caught flip flopping about, he simply denies that he said what he said!
Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | Jul 29, 2008 8:32:17 AM
@rafraf
Do you have a link?
Posted by: Emma | Jul 29, 2008 8:27:27 AM
He didn't say he would accept the tax increase he said it was on the table. Saying something is on the table means being open to other ideas, not close minded. Does anyone else see this?
Democrat for McCain, because Obama has no experience
Posted by: Emma | Jul 29, 2008 8:22:13 AM
Jake, if you want to see why some independents and moderate, long-term voting democrats are considering McCain see Richard Cohen's op-ed piece in the Washington Post. This piece might explain why the polls are so close.
Posted by: rafraf | Jul 29, 2008 8:09:26 AM
No one has reported on McCain's flip on car emission standards. Before he said he was for Federally regulated emission standards. But he told a crowd of GM employees that he NOW favors state regulated emission standards. That went over REAL well here in MI, LOL!
Posted by: Mayor McCheese | Jul 29, 2008 8:00:03 AM
In your story there's the quintessential philosophical one-liner from McFailure's political book of ideas and opinions:
"I have my positions"...
He sure has! Whatever position you want to hear! LOL!
Posted by: maria | Jul 29, 2008 7:44:17 AM
This would seem to be a serious breach of conservative principles and an unvarnished flip-flop. Will we see him shift on Iraq next? Oh, wait...
Posted by: matthew | Jul 29, 2008 7:43:24 AM
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