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What Did Obama Tell House Democrats About His Symbolism?

July 30, 2008 9:08 AM

The Washington Post has an interesting quote this morning from the meeting Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, held with House Democrats yesterday afternoon.

"I have become a symbol of the possibility of America returning to our best traditions," Obama said, a witness told the Post.

Republicans and others are jumping on the quote as evidence of Obama's more egoistic impulses, but other Democrats in the room today suggest that the quote is out of context and twists Obama's meaning to mean the complete opposite of what he was saying.

"His entire point of that riff was that the campaign is NOT about him," says a House Democratic staffer. The Post "left out the important first half of the sentence which was something along the lines of 'it has become increasingly clear in my travel, the campaign, that the crowds, the enthusiasm, 200,000 people in Berlin, is not about me at all. Its about America. I have just become a symbol.'"

Other staffers with whom I spoke back that up, and a Democratic Congressman who isn't a particular fan of Obama agrees, saying that Obama preceded that quote with something along the lines of, 'Those people in Germany weren't excited about me.  They were excited by the prospect of America getting back to being all it could be.'"

House Democrats are hunting around to see if anyone recorded the closed-door meeting, so we can see just what the context was in which Mr. Obama discussed his symbolism to the world.

- jpt

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i wonder how did obama remebered his speech word by word. did he cheated when he was saying the speech? and did he really wrote his speech himself? i am wondering if obama is cheating in his speechs

Posted by: dragon | Jan 21, 2009 9:44:13 PM

I think the basic problem with BO is illustrated by the difference in the words of a true AMerican hero -Martin Luther King, Jr., and Obama's words. MLK said, "I have a dream...". BO said, "I AM a dream..."

Americans need to vote for substance not substance abuse.

Posted by: eeyore | Aug 1, 2008 2:25:23 PM

Isn't that part of the problem though? Since when were judges intended to be law or policy makers?

Posted by: Chris | Aug 1, 2008 2:12:18 PM

The President (whomever or whatever) DOES NOMINATE judges, but if you really knew government AND history , you might recall that CONGRESS MUST VOTE TO APPROVE THE NOMINATIONS!! Just ask people with names like (Bork, a female named Lani etc.) I did not intend for anyone to believe I felt the office of President is not important, I merely was trying to get VOTERS to open their eyes, look carefully at Congress and choose not "whom they wish to serve" but instead find the candidates that can and will make decisions that preserve our "individual pursuit(s) of happiness". DO NOT select "activist" congressional leaders but select "grassroots active" members of congress and we will return to the "government of the people, by the people, and for the people"
Kent

Posted by: kent | Aug 1, 2008 7:57:33 AM

WOOOW! Of all the places to get a 10-1 negative post ratio... an ABC NEWS BLOG! Obama's people are probably looking at this and are scared to death!

Lord Almighty (and, no, I don't mean Obama Almighty), please let this catch fire and sweep the nation!

...and no, McCain's no better. Where Obama's a not-so-heavily-disguised socialist with Marxist tendencies, McCain's an incremental socialist with circa 1930's Democrat tendencies.

Either way we're going to hell. It's just the question of which is better, the tortoise and the hare?

...and to the guy who said "It really doesn't matter who or what you elect as President," and suggested we take a history class, I suggest YOU take a GOVERNMENT class.

The President nominates the members of that third branch of government, and unless you have been sleeping the past several years, that third "equal" branch has become a little MORE equal than the others. AAccording to Article III Section 2, their job is to look at challenged laws and rule on whether said law squares with the OUR constitution. Lately, they've been citing OTHER nations' laws, where they think American opinion is HEADED (not where it is right now, mind you), and can read the Second Amendment and FOUR of the NINE can't see that the people have a right to bear arms.

Of course, the next question is "bear arms against who? In short, against our own out of control government. Read the entire Third, Fourth, Sixth, and also last phrase of the Fifth Amendment if you don't believe it.

Go ahead, fool yourself into thinking the Presidency is unimportant because everything else will take care of itself. Not too long afterward, this nation will be run by a very select few (nine, to be exact). Look around the world and tell me you think that's a good thing... It's sure working out well in Iran!

Posted by: Marty | Aug 1, 2008 12:47:23 AM

As an Independent I have no choice but to carefully and ruthlessly check out the candidates. I honestly don't understand why people desire to be so boxed in by "die-hard Democrat" "die-hard Republican", I have voted for both based on their standards. I find it truly disturbing that adult americans call each other such vial names because they are of the other party! I was going to vote for Obama until I started listening to him, I'm not ready to be a socialist!

Tom - "Truth Hurts" - well written, thank you.

livingold - your statement stinks of racism! I could care less about skin color, have friends of many backgrounds, and I'm sick of because my skin is lighter I can be accused of that with no truth or substance to the accusation!

As for the media, the headlines for Obama are 90% positive, towards McCain, 80% negative, so tell me where the bias is? I don't watch the major news channels anymore. I find real news in more intelligent places, maybe that's why I'm not so apt to call people by the token names given to Democrats and Republicans! I guess I'm the lone black sheep that strays but I'll tell you I see things more clearly because I don't allow myself to be so engulfed in one party. I wish everyone else would take a step back and look closely instead of blindly following what their parties mantra is! Maybe then America can get back to what it was meant to be. Let's face it the Democrats and Republicans are both very very far from what their roots were!

Posted by: ConcernedinUSA | Jul 31, 2008 11:17:46 PM

I think Obama is forgetting the fact that he and his campaign paid for a free concert in Berlin with two very popular bands that cause two hundred thousand people to attend the event...All those young people were not there to hear his 25 minutes no substance/empty speech. Now they are making it look like they were there just for him. THEY'RE NOT FOOLING ME... If there is a "wall" it's between Obama and reality, so please tear down that "wall" and wake up!!!!!

Posted by: ELVIS | Jul 31, 2008 10:39:05 PM

let's suppose for a minute that is true. that is even worse then because it shows that people are completely sold on the idea of him rather than the truth of him. symbols are simplified, basic and attractive representations of something. in and of themselves, they have no substance. no meaning. no depth. they require no understanding as all they do is symbolize. the same with Obama. all he does is symbolize, but there is nothing to back it up. no underlying truth or structure to that which he represents.
if he is a symbol of what america could be again, it is the equivalent of having a fish as a symbol of an airline. the two are completely unrelated.
more accurately, he is a symbol like Coach or Louis Vutton. popular, looks good, impresses people...elitist...but a totally unjustifiable drain on finances, embraced by snobs who either live in a fantasy world or those desperate for some lifestyle they can't have, and a symbol of completely mixed up priorities masked by the pompous, fraudulent appearance of class.
he's a symbol alright...a symbol of the aspen crowd.

Posted by: Chris | Jul 31, 2008 2:08:19 PM

WAKE UP AMERICA!! These quotes you're complaining about are all out of context. You're all blinded by partisanship. Obama wasn't on some ego trip - he was saying the point of his election isn't because people love him - but that they love what he represents. i.e. a symbol.

Honestly, get your facts straight before you start posting conservative agenda all over these articles, sheeple.

Posted by: Warren | Jul 31, 2008 1:41:23 PM

oh and he's wrong to suggest he is perceived that way by any but the most disillusioned. he's a politician and therefore a fraud. lest i be considered a republican, let me say mccain is too. neither has the stones, the will or the ability to make the changes necessary to save this country. it's too late, the empire is dying and its citizens and leaders have tacitly, repeatedly given the order 'do not resuscitate'.

Posted by: Chris | Jul 31, 2008 1:21:35 PM

About America? This from the presidential candidate who stands before a throng of 200,000 Germans and declares himself a citizen of the world. This from a guy who intentionally allows the media to releaese the 'solemn, earnest' prayer inserted into the western wall. This from a guy who pushes ideas and philosophies that are completely out of touch with the reality of the majority of the US citizenry and will destroy the economy and what's left of US strength. Please. At least it seems like some are breaking free of the cult of personality. Finally.

Posted by: Chris | Jul 31, 2008 1:04:51 PM

How can someone be a symbol for a country that he himself will not put his hand over his heart when the national anthem is played? The FLAG is our symbol of what America is and can be!

Posted by: Steve | Jul 31, 2008 12:49:16 PM

Obama says nothing I agree with.
Too far out with his thoughts
and beliefs.

Posted by: Bev | Jul 31, 2008 11:33:57 AM

"Republicans and others are jumping on the quote as evidence of Obama's more egoistic impulses, but other Democrats in the room today suggest that the quote is out of context and twists Obama's meaning to mean the complete opposite of what he was saying."

Democrats almost always mean the complete opposite of what they say, so this isn't anything new.

Posted by: Goliath | Jul 31, 2008 10:16:30 AM

"Pride goes before the fall"

Posted by: alyce | Jul 31, 2008 8:52:57 AM

What Ubama didn't say in his speech about his super-secret civilian security force which will be as large and as well-funded as the US military is WHERE he will get the money, the US military cost is about half a TRILLION dollars each year! Well, his dirty little secret is that he intends to use THAT money - there will no longer be any US military!! Good-bye United States of America!! Hello USSA (United Socialist States of America)! WAKE UP ALL YOU TRUE AMERICANS, WE ARE SOON TO LOSE OUR VERY OWN COUNTRY!!!!! Please God, help us out of this mess!

Posted by: Reese | Jul 31, 2008 6:34:35 AM

Obama loves Obama, if you don't believe that, just ask Obama.

Posted by: Reese | Jul 31, 2008 6:16:55 AM

Obama is campaigning for rock star , watch for him on American Idol next season. He'll have nothing else to do next January.

Posted by: Reese | Jul 31, 2008 6:11:16 AM

Wow, Sen Obama is a big mouth. He hasn't done anything to prove to America.

Posted by: Arie | Jul 31, 2008 6:05:40 AM

Yeah, he sure will bring change, he'll CHANGE the USA into a third world SOCIALIST country. WAKE UP AMERICA - be careful what you wish for!!

Posted by: kathee | Jul 31, 2008 5:37:39 AM

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