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What Did Obama Tell House Democrats About His Symbolism?
July 30, 2008 9:08 AM
The Washington Post has an interesting quote this morning from the meeting Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, held with House Democrats yesterday afternoon.
"I have become a symbol of the possibility of America returning to our best traditions," Obama said, a witness told the Post.
Republicans and others are jumping on the quote as evidence of Obama's more egoistic impulses, but other Democrats in the room today suggest that the quote is out of context and twists Obama's meaning to mean the complete opposite of what he was saying.
"His entire point of that riff was that the campaign is NOT about him," says a House Democratic staffer. The Post "left out the important first half of the sentence which was something along the lines of 'it has become increasingly clear in my travel, the campaign, that the crowds, the enthusiasm, 200,000 people in Berlin, is not about me at all. Its about America. I have just become a symbol.'"
Other staffers with whom I spoke back that up, and a Democratic Congressman who isn't a particular fan of Obama agrees, saying that Obama preceded that quote with something along the lines of, 'Those people in Germany weren't excited about me. They were excited by the prospect of America getting back to being all it could be.'"
House Democrats are hunting around to see if anyone recorded the closed-door meeting, so we can see just what the context was in which Mr. Obama discussed his symbolism to the world.
- jpt
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Oh, give Obama a break, the mainstream media always does, we should too :)
Posted by: Reese | Jul 31, 2008 5:05:59 AM
Obama believes in himself. Obama has self-confidence.
These are all great attributes for the next leader of the United States of American.
If he believes in himself, I will believe in his ability to lead us in the right direction.
Posted by: clarity | Jul 31, 2008 2:48:42 AM
He said clearly that he was "just a symbol." That didn't sound like ego speaking to me. I'd say he's predominantly a symbol of a much longed for change from the last eight years. But being a symbol for change, certainly doesn't guarantee he'll bring it about significantly.
Posted by: kat | Jul 31, 2008 2:26:01 AM
"They were excited by the prospect of America getting back to being all it could be."
Let me translate that into Eurospeak: They were excited by the prospect of America becoming multilateral to the point of paralysis, deferring to its European betters, preferring endless debate and discussion to decisive action, reinstating multiculturalism and moral relativism as guiding principles, traveling further down the road to socialized serfdom, embracing the United Nations and international law as absolute authorities and emasculating the military might that keeps their asses sovereign and free.
Posted by: SukieTawdry | Jul 30, 2008 11:19:24 PM
Everything is About Obama--they are always working to recreate original impulse for political expediency. Obama is NOT yet the nominee. No One received the 2/3 majority.
Please take a look at a site that is beseeching the DNC to provide an open convention---NOT a Coronation of Barack the King. Check out thedenvergroup.blogspot.com
Posted by: diane | Jul 30, 2008 10:36:11 PM
I wonder how many Germans would have shown up without the beer & vittles. Obama is extremely pompous and presumptuous. We still have a sitting president and he is not him.
Posted by: sfj41837 | Jul 30, 2008 10:21:12 PM
Irma jealous much?
What is wrong with everybody? Why so much hate towards Barack. First of all, you have you facts wrong about him. He is definitely for women's rights and his record speaks for it's self. That's more than I can say for John McCain who once called his own wife the C word. You sound like one of those disgruntled Hillary/Rush supporters(cough! cough!)
Don't you have somebody's debt to help out with instead of trying to bash Barack.
Posted by: Mindy | Jul 30, 2008 10:17:01 PM
I would consider respecting women and the good works they have done, as an American tradition. Unfortunately I learned that you Sen. Obama, among other government employees and the media feel that it is necessary to tear women down in order for you to win. That is why you don't serve as a "symbol.. (in the)return of American tradition." Unless of course you mean the far distant past in which case, no way would you be the nominee and neither you or Sen. Clinton would be a part of this.
Posted by: irma | Jul 30, 2008 9:31:02 PM
Well, you don't symbolize that to me....
Posted by: irma | Jul 30, 2008 9:21:11 PM
we have an unusually large number of citizens who obviously slept through any basic history class in high school or college or some institution of learning. We DO NOT recognize any monarchy as our leader( and have not since circa 1776!) Our founding fathers came up with a pretty good plan called "separation of powers". The legislative branch can make laws, spend money, etc. The judicial branch tests these against precedents to preserve our Constitution. The executive branch (President) has limited powers by design. It really doesn't matter who or what you elect as President. It is imperative that EVERYONE WHO ACTUALLY VOTES chooses the senator/representative that is honest, cannot be bribed, sincere, knowledgeable, etc. Until we rid congress of the deceitful, self-serving, self-righteous idealists that have abandoned reality, our country will not succeed or survive!!!
KENT
Posted by: kent | Jul 30, 2008 9:07:27 PM
Obama is a paper doll candidate cut out by the DNC and dressed by the network media. He is two-dimensional and has no depth of experience. I don't care what crayon you use to color him, black, white, or red. He is still inexperienced and will move this country further into socialism and economic ruin. When will we stop electing politicians who steal our hard earned money through taxes and give it to other people in order to get them re-elected? When?
Posted by: James M | Jul 30, 2008 6:54:39 PM
"I have become a symbol of the possibility of America returning to our best traditions," Obama said, a witness told the Post.
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He's a symbol of the brain-dead "Democrats" substituting pretty-boy pin-ups for actual politics.
Lying in the Iowa primary and otherwhere, voting for FISA and saber-rattling on Afghanistan and Iran are Republican, er, "post-partisan" positions . . .
Americans who want to vote for a "traditional" Democrat, meanwhile, will have to vote for the Green candidate, Cynthis McKinney, or for Ralph Nader, if this flim-flamming fluff-ball becomes the "Democratic" nominee.
The corrupt "leadership" of the Democratic Party should have polled its membership, perhaps, before giving up on being Democrats and, in fear of Bush and Cheney, presenting themselves as suddenly "post-partisan".
This ego-freak is a stammering disaster.
Posted by: Belle Starr | Jul 30, 2008 6:34:01 PM
Posted by Warren:
The point: Obama is no messiah, and any supporter of his with any substance knows this. Nobody's expecting he'll do everything. But they are expecting his election to be a symbol of social change that will signal them to start contributing towards social unity. That's what pushes him over the top and makes his supporters so excited: it's not just him, it's the entire movement.
"Social Change" "Social Unity" This is scarily European to me, and if you ask my opinion this (along with gas prices) will finish him off in November. "Yes we can" Should be "No we can't", "We can't win in Iraq" "We can't drill our own oil" "We can't keep taxes low"
Posted by: Brandon | Jul 30, 2008 6:32:18 PM
There's no recording to be found of this. Obama does his performances in front of cameras and recorders. He saves his special messages for meetings behind closed doors.
Posted by: FishMonger | Jul 30, 2008 6:08:31 PM
The 200,000 Germans didn't come out to see Obama. They were there to her a free concert by two of Germany's most popular bands. Obama spoke in between bands. Ask Obama what happened to all the American flags his campaign handed out to the GERMANS. Most of them were thrown to the ground and stepped on. What a scam. The hypocrisy of the media has no limits!
Posted by: Tom | Jul 30, 2008 4:45:22 PM
Mary Lou-- actually, what's truly laughable is that McCain is the best that the GOP could come up with!
I don't think it is any secret, by the way, that Bush's inept leadership is clearly the reason for Senator Obama's success. Real Americans that are suffering and care about their families futures, not oil execs and lobbyists who care about how much fatter their pockets can get, are the ones who are supporting Sen. Obama.
WE WILL be taking our country back--one way or another.
Posted by: Sick of the Blind | Jul 30, 2008 3:47:18 PM
Should we even bother having an election?
How about a simple coronation instead?
Posted by: drjohn | Jul 30, 2008 3:26:34 PM
David: Very true. But that's where the "yes we can" part of the campaign comes in. Obama, and those voting for him, are hoping to spark a social revolution that gets everyone involved - and gets them all contributing to the cause. They're backing on the idea that him becoming president would spark grassroots movements and cooperation that was holding back before - but now feels supported enough to happen. And they may be quite right on that.
Whatever Obama's ability at running the country might be then is made up for. In this case, his lack of a rock-hard stance on most issues in most issues is actually a plus - because it frees him up to do whatever the best option is regardless of previous pledges. And at any rate, he's highly unlikely to do any worse than Bush - or do much differently than McCain (they're both really centrists, compared to past elections).
The point: Obama is no messiah, and any supporter of his with any substance knows this. Nobody's expecting he'll do everything. But they are expecting his election to be a symbol of social change that will signal them to start contributing towards social unity. That's what pushes him over the top and makes his supporters so excited: it's not just him, it's the entire movement.
Posted by: Warren | Jul 30, 2008 3:20:09 PM
Why keep trying to prop up Obama by bringing Bush into this? Oh, because that's the best you've got LOL!
Posted by: marylou | Jul 30, 2008 3:05:32 PM
Dorothy, what you and so many Obama supporters fail to understand is that the vast majority of Americans have moved past any lingering racism to the point that we won't be bullied into electing a black candidate simply to prove that we aren't racists.
To me, each candidate was just that: a candidate. They weren't The Black, The Woman, The Elder, The Mormon, The Hispanic. They're candidates. To vote for Obama on the basis of skin color would be a giant step backward. The truly colorblind have nothing to prove.
The racist label is simply a cheap shot, and frankly, most of us couldn't care less about it. It says far more about the one who says it than about the intended recipient.
Posted by: marylou | Jul 30, 2008 2:59:36 PM
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