Political Punch
Power, pop, and probings from ABC News Senior White House Correspondent Jake Tapper
RECENT POSTS
- Today's Q's For O's White House
- Afghanistan Offensive and Iraq Withdrawal: Obama's National Security Advisor Discusses Both with ABC News
- Who Makes the Big Bucks at the White House?
- Obama Quizzed at Health Care Town Hall: On Taxing Benefits, Single Payer System, and Costs
- Today's Q's for O's White House
- Spotlight on Non-Profit Work, Obama Calls on “Deep Pockets”
- Obama says Iraqi People Right to Celebrate
- Today's Q's for O's White House
- POTUS to LGBT: "Welcome to Your White House"
- Obama Gives Biden Iraq Assignment
MONTHLY ARCHIVES
« Previous | Main | Next »
What's Arabic for 'Spin'?
July 20, 2008 9:02 AM
The Iraqi government has sent out a statement to push back against Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's interview in Der Spiegel, in which he seemed to endorse Sen. Barack Obama's 16-month U.S. troop withdrawal plan -- accidentally blast-e-mailed out by the White House to reporters yesterday.
The Sunday statement that was blast-e-mailed to its press list by Multi-National Force-Iraq -- which the New York Times says was also sent out by CENTCOM -- reads as follows.
"Al-Dabbagh: Mr. Maliki's statements to the German magazine Der Spiegel have been misunderstood
"The official spokesman for the Iraqi government, Dr. Ali al-Dabbagh, announced that Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki confirmed that his statements to the German magazine Der Spiegel have been misunderstood and mistranslated and was not conveyed accurately regarding the vision of Senator Barack Obama, U.S. presidential candidate, on the timeframe for U.S. forces withdrawal from Iraq.
"Al-Dabbagh explained that Mr. al-Maliki confirmed the existence of an Iraqi vision stems from the reality with regard to Iraq security needs, as the positive developments of the security situation and the improvement witnessed in Iraqi cities makes the subject of U.S. forces’ withdrawal within prospects, horizons and timetables agreed upon and in the light of the continuing positive developments on the ground, and security that came within the Strategic Plan for Cooperation which was laid and developed by Mr. Maliki and President George Bush. The Iraqi government appreciates and values the efforts of all the friends who continue to support and supporting Iraqi security forces.
"Al-Dabbagh underscored that the statements made by the head of the ministerial council (Prime Minister al-Maliki) or any of the members of the Iraqi government should not be understood as support to any U.S. presidential candidates "
Neither the Iraqi government nor MNF-I nor CENTCOM explained exactly what had been mistranslated or misunderstood.
- jpt
UPDATE: I'm told that Arabic for "spin" is "faraa." I'm also told that Der Spiegel bleibt bei seiner Version (Der Spiegel is standing by its story).
July 20, 2008 in Obama, Barack | Permalink | Share | User Comments (209)
You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the comment feed for this post.
What is arabic for spin?
Faraa means 'cheery, animated child' as a name. farra-id is a divided inheritance. There is also a camp by that name.
You might use 'Taqiyya'. Also, dissimulation or "hypocrisy in the pursuit of a greater purpose."
In the west, we call it 'lieing to someone's face to cover one's a**'.
Wasn't it Der Spiegel that published the hoax Hitler diaries?
Posted by: len | Jul 21, 2008 2:18:02 PM
The American, people want OUT of Bush's illegal, criminal, Iraqui, war. The elected President of Iraq, Nouri Al-Maliki,want's the U.S. OUT of Iraq.The Iraqui people want the U.S.OUT of Iraq. Senator Obama, wants the U.S.OUT of Iraq.Bush,has murdered over 1 million Iraquies, and 4200+ American service people and wounded 31,000 military people,18,000 seriously. But NOW BUSH, and McBUSH, say we will leave Iraq, sometime in the next 100 years after General PETRAEUS,and THEY decide to do so.WHO and WHEN was PETRAEUS, elected President of Iraq????
Posted by: Repubsout | Jul 21, 2008 1:31:58 PM
Hey Salpula, while you are correct in that you expect people to change their minds as new facts arise, what new facts arose to make Obama change his mind about taking public funds for the campaign. What new facts arose after he said he would do the 10 public forum debates that McCain requested, and then said "No". There is a big difference between changing your mind because facts change, or you learn more about the issue and changing your mind for political gain or expediency. Obama has actually given different answers to the same questions - based on who his audience was at the time.
Posted by: BizBag | Jul 21, 2008 10:31:53 AM
if mccain was black would he have been standing eye to eye with obama.diz guy is one of the greatest politician ive seen in our time.vote 4 a leader not 4 color
Posted by: pius | Jul 21, 2008 9:29:12 AM
manitu,
fear n love are the only two emotions thar gorvern us.this is not the time for fear.even christ had not very good followers but brought them to the fold,will u accuse him of bad judgement,if u tell urself the truth there is notting wrong wit diz guy.obama u just dont want to see it n prefer to jive in fear.
Posted by: pius | Jul 21, 2008 9:02:39 AM
Why should we be surprised that the IRAQ people want us out of their country? Bush and McBush have waged war on a country and killed over a million IRAQIES, Men Women and Children in the name of the American people for the big oil companies that have a strangle hold on us. The first time I heard John McBush tell the truth about this whole made up war in Iraq was when he was in a town hall meeting and told the American people that he did not want to have to send American troops back into IRAQ for oil. That was the first and the last time he told the truth about this Bush/ McNut war. When McSame was asked about that statement, he told reporters that he was talking about George H. Bush Senior and the first war in IRAQ to liberate IRAN. What a coward! It's time to bring our troops home, they have done what their government has ask them to do. Their families are waiting for them at home Mr. McCain, the IRAQIE people no longer want us their. Obama has said he will end this since less war, that has took so many lives of our family members away, for what? So Bush and McBush and their crooked friends can continue getting rich while we sit here and lose our homes. Bush and McSame don't have to worry about paying a mortgage, softball, swimming lessons and food. Weather you dislike Obama or love him, we can not afford 4 or 8 years of the same Bush policies hat are destroying the middle class and their families. People wise up, don't vote this year own wedge issues, such as race and gender. We can't afford it!
Posted by: ORLANDO B. FROM FREMONT OHIO | Jul 21, 2008 8:40:19 AM
I know it, Obama was right all along!
Posted by: JD | Jul 21, 2008 5:24:51 AM
Who is paying for this trip, is what I want to know? And why are the other senators never shown?
I say, Obama better be "wasting" his own money, cause this is definitely a "campaign trip" just as his speech before the UCC SYNOD CONF was!
IRS -- get it right! UCC should be taxed for allowing that travesty!
Posted by: anon | Jul 21, 2008 4:34:14 AM
Geeza: Socialized health care doesn't mean "Free health care at the current quality of service" it means if you are 75 and need a knee or hip replacement surgery, its likely you still wont get it if you cant afford it because most systems use public and private care, thus confining you to a wheelchair or walker if you don't have the cash. We have excellent healthcare in this country, some of the best available, partly because we do pay for it. The problem with the current system is that we don't have a backup plan for people who can't afford it at all.
In reality we will all die someday. I know thats a shocker. 50 years ago we couldn't do 75% of what we can do medically today - and that has come at an extremely high cost of research and development. We want to (and do) live longer. We also want progress to continue - more $$$.
The newly implemented (or yet to be implemented) plan of forcing hospitals to pay for extended hospital stays due to infections that a patient contracts during stays, errors during a routine procedure, or neglect enforces more accountability and should help bring costs down if hospitals hold themselves to a higher standard. If we stop putting high fructose corn syrup and all the other crap we put into our food in this country we would have less obesity/overweight people, and in general a more healthy population.
Once we have taken preliminary steps to improve health care and reduce costs then think about socializing the health care, but merely deeming free health care for the country is not only prohibitively expensive, also naive.
Posted by: Salpula | Jul 21, 2008 2:34:53 AM
I feel that all this talk of flip flop on either side of the aisle is pure rubbish. McCain has changed his stances on issues many times, despite the fact that his supporters only want you to think Obama changes his mind as time passes.
REALITY CHECK: If a politician doesn't change his opinions as new facts come to light and situations both here and abroad change they have no business being elected for anything. It is the mark of a worthy politician to be able to stick to his beliefs and alter his opinions and stances on issues. Have you always thought exactly the same way about everything your whole life? I HIGHLY doubt it.
Posted by: Salpula | Jul 21, 2008 2:18:31 AM
Manatee,
Obama will be eliminating all income tax for retirees making less than 50K. That should take care of your woes.
Posted by: boob | Jul 21, 2008 1:38:52 AM
Tamaoragami - I think it is more indicative of an ignorant public than a powerful press.
Posted by: Boob | Jul 21, 2008 1:33:31 AM
Some fifteen thousand or
more elderly people died
of heatstroke in France
during summer a few years
ago.
French health care system?
Does it exist? '
Posted by: anon | Jul 20, 2008 10:28:
Yes, anon, it does.
You can't blame the French Health Care System for an electrical snafu which cause long outages through out the country.
Stuff like that happens in Illinois also.... but we don't blame the doctors!
Posted by: questioner | Jul 21, 2008 1:12:58 AM
Like Vietnam, the Iraq
invasion will end in
failure.
Posted by: anon | Jul 21, 2008 12:36:15 AM
Two days after the recent polls came out showing lopsided support for McCain over Obama in the fields of foreign policy and national defense, OBAMA SUDDENLY BECOMES AN EXPERT - TALK ABOUT THE POWER OF THE PRESS!!!
Posted by: Temagami | Jul 20, 2008 11:53:45 PM
Send the troop in (Afghanistan)
Send the troop home (from Iraq)
Change the Afghanistan war from Iraq war
That is the change we can belive in.
Yes, we can.
Obama 08,
Posted by: Kevin P | Jul 20, 2008 11:40:59 PM
Walkback
by hilzoy
After Nouri al-Maliki endorsed Barack Obama's timetable for withdrawal, one of his spokesmen issued a clarification stating that Maliki's remarks had been "misunderstood and mistranslated" (though, as the Times notes, "it did not address a specific error.") The clarification was issued by Centcom, oddly enough, and turned out to have been made after the US contacted the Maliki government. Meanwhile, Der Speigel stands by its story, and says that it will post the full interview in English tomorrow.
Meanwhile, the New York Times has gotten hold of the original tape, and translated the relevant bits for itself:
"The interpreter for the interview works for Mr. Maliki’s office, not the magazine. And in an audio recording of Mr. Maliki’s interview that Der Spiegel provided to The New York Times, Mr. Maliki seemed to state a clear affinity for Mr. Obama’s position, bringing it up on his own in an answer to a general question on troop presence.
The following is a direct translation from the Arabic of Mr. Maliki’s comments by The Times: “Obama’s remarks that — if he takes office — in 16 months he would withdraw the forces, we think that this period could increase or decrease a little, but that it could be suitable to end the presence of the forces in Iraq.”
He continued: “Who wants to exit in a quicker way has a better assessment of the situation in Iraq.”"
That seems to settle that question.
Posted by: paul mall | Jul 20, 2008 11:37:45 PM
Jeremy.
Obama will not debate on FOX because everyone knows that FOX is not a legitimate news source? What kind of gobbledygook is that? McCain will go into the lion's den for an interview. Obama is CHICHEN - THAT'S IT!! Bill O'Reilly would be respectful, but would tear Obama apart - on the issues!!
Obama should be scared - he has no real depth and is out of his league
Posted by: Temagami | Jul 20, 2008 11:27:54 PM
Jeremy.
Obama will not interview with FOX news because everyone knows that FOX is NOT a legitimate news source? What kind of gobbledygook is that? McCain will go into the lion's den for an interview. Obama IS JUST CHICKEN - THAT'S IT. Bill o'Reilly will be respectful, but will tear Obama apart - ON THE ISSUES!! OBAMA SHOULD BE SCARED!!
Posted by: Temagami | Jul 20, 2008 11:20:51 PM
OBAMA.
NOT MUCH EXPERIENCE
NO MILITARY
BAD JUDGEMENT
BAD BAGGAGE
AND....... BAD IDEAS!!
Posted by: Temagami | Jul 20, 2008 10:47:16 PM
Post a comment

