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What's Arabic for 'Spin'?

July 20, 2008 9:02 AM

The Iraqi government has sent out a statement to push back against Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's interview in Der Spiegel, in which he seemed to endorse Sen. Barack Obama's 16-month U.S. troop withdrawal plan -- accidentally blast-e-mailed out by the White House to reporters yesterday.

The Sunday statement that was blast-e-mailed to its press list by Multi-National Force-Iraq -- which the New York Times says was also sent out by CENTCOM -- reads as follows.

"Al-Dabbagh: Mr. Maliki's statements to the German magazine Der Spiegel have been misunderstood

"The official spokesman for the Iraqi government, Dr. Ali al-Dabbagh, announced that Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki confirmed that his statements to the German magazine Der Spiegel have been misunderstood and mistranslated and was not conveyed accurately regarding the vision of Senator Barack Obama, U.S. presidential candidate, on the timeframe for U.S. forces withdrawal from Iraq.

"Al-Dabbagh explained that Mr. al-Maliki confirmed the existence of an Iraqi vision stems from the reality with regard to Iraq security needs, as the positive developments of the security situation and the improvement witnessed in Iraqi cities makes the subject of U.S. forces’ withdrawal within prospects, horizons and timetables agreed upon and in the light of the continuing positive developments on the ground, and security that came within the Strategic Plan for Cooperation which was laid and developed by Mr. Maliki and President George Bush. The Iraqi government appreciates and values the efforts of all the friends who continue to support and supporting Iraqi security forces.

"Al-Dabbagh underscored that the statements made by the head of the ministerial council (Prime Minister al-Maliki) or any of the members of the Iraqi government should not be understood as support to any U.S. presidential candidates "

Neither the Iraqi government nor MNF-I nor CENTCOM explained exactly what had been mistranslated or misunderstood.

- jpt

UPDATE: I'm told that Arabic for "spin" is "faraa." I'm also told that Der Spiegel bleibt bei seiner Version (Der Spiegel is standing by its story).

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I will vote for McCain even if he has to be carried into the oval office with his O2 cart and alzheimers Doc in tow. the alternative (Obama) is unthinkable.

Posted by: Jimbo | Jul 20, 2008 10:44:13 PM

Orlando.

You people? I am a retired Catholic school teacher on a very low fixed income. I own some stock - not much. I get some income from it. One of the first things Obama will do as pres is let the current break on capital gains tax expire - this will cost me and it is dumb anyway because history has shown every time the capital gains tax is lowered, the fed gets more income in taxes. Obama probably knows this, but will not let you know that he knows. Business creates economic value - ALL business. Government does not and can not create economic value. Bite business and you hurt every American. When I think of the entitlement crowd I think of the exact opposite - the Amish, who have to be getting a good laugh from all this political gobbledygook. The Amish even lobbied congress (successfully) to be exempt from the Social Security system. THE LAST OF THE TRUE AMERICANS. What exactly does going green mean and how can we run our cars on it? Just where is all the Oil from Iraq, anyway? Illegal war? When was the last time we had a terrorist attack on our soil? That has been no accident and Iraq has forced the bad guys to put almost all of there efforts, in IRAQ - AND THEY HAVE LOST THERE. Thank you to the American, British and Israeli intel services who have foiled planned attacks against the west. Vote for Obama - you will get what you deserve, but a lot of us know what is in store for us and WE DO NOT DESERVE HIM!!

Posted by: Manitu | Jul 20, 2008 10:29:51 PM

Some fifteen thousand or
more elderly people died
of heatstroke in France
during summer a few years
ago.

French health care system?
Does it exist?

Posted by: anon | Jul 20, 2008 10:28:19 PM

Manitu

Thanks for the reference.

The British National Health Service is a subject of intense political debate and everyone seems to agree that it is not working as good as everyone would like.

But in my view, the shortcomings of this service in Britain, in Canada and anywhere else is not good reason to reject the principle of free national health service. Often good ideas fail or flounder because of bad implementation and management.

We can look at other countries where the principle is a shining example of good practice. France for example. There are British citizen who travel to France to avail themselves of the country's healthcare services. Recent changes mean that individuals from other EU countries can no longer get immediate and free access to this service but it remain an important element of the French social order.

In any case, I think an individual's health is so foundamental to Life that it should not be based on the ability to pay. It is almost like having to pay for the air we breathe.

Posted by: Geeza | Jul 20, 2008 10:16:28 PM

Mr. al-Maliki of Iraq and
Mr. Karzai of Afghanistan
- both are worthless lackeys.
Neither has any abilities
to lead their respective
countries.

Posted by: anon | Jul 20, 2008 9:37:39 PM

i dont understand this administratiom the iraq wants us out period, they are also smart people they now no that this war was not supposed to be there in the first place,after bush spokesman testified the iraq people were also watching, what he was saying, i think they is no need to keep on lying to ourselves we should have not ivaded iraq period, part of this problem is the media being told what to say sbout this administration, the media need to work up and mend their mistakes, iraq wants us out let them reconsile its a good thing this world need peace, and good diplomacy, sit down and talk with those you dont like also thats what we need in this world now stop wars and fighting

Posted by: tabitha | Jul 20, 2008 9:33:29 PM

Mr. al-Maliki of Iraq and
Mr. Karzai of Afghanistan
- both are worthless lackeys.
Neither has any abilities
to lead their respective
cuntries.

Posted by: anon | Jul 20, 2008 9:32:38 PM

Geeza.

For an update on the Canadian health system, Punch in Claude Gastonguay "Canadian Health Care We So Envy Lies in Ruins, It's Architect Admits." (6/25/08). Claude Gastonguay is considered the founder of the current Canadian health care system - interesting stuff.

Posted by: Manitu | Jul 20, 2008 9:29:29 PM

Aston

By the way, I am not trying to totally dismiss what you said. Private health insurance is already available here and those who can afford to use it can choose to do so.

The service such individuals receive might be better and more personalized than one gets from the National Health Service (the NHS). But health insurance remains available to all and I know of no plans to privatize the NHS which is the pride of the British Labour government.

Reform and improve the NHS - yes. But getting rid of it - no. That would be unthinkable for any British political party in the foreseeable future.

Posted by: Geeza | Jul 20, 2008 9:11:34 PM

Aston

I live in the UK and I try to keep well abreast of domestic and international politics. That's why - even though I am a foreigner and it is 2 am - I am engaging with this blog about the American presidential election.

I must know say that I have no knowledge of this move to "privatize the nation's socialized insurance" to which you refer.

Posted by: Geeza | Jul 20, 2008 8:55:09 PM

fair and balanced - terrorist fist jabs? who even says that if they are a real news channel?

Posted by: melissa | Jul 20, 2008 8:49:21 PM

Jeremy, Fox news is the only channel where you can get fair and balanced news..not to mention they came insixth place nation wide for cable news...not like MSNBC which came in 46th...tells you something...people don't like to watch a grown man like Matthews smile and say Obama gives him a tingle up his leg every time he sees him...or Olbermann who thinks he knows everything and makes fun of everyone who HE doesn't like! At least at Fox you get both sides of a story...not just a biased one as on all other channels!

Posted by: mfmros | Jul 20, 2008 8:46:39 PM

drjohn,
mccain has good judgment? ha
as in what saying on tv that he doesnt know economy, then saying i have no idea where you got that idea from? yes very smart oh and how about bragging how your best issue is foreign affairs and then acting like a 4 year old and making rash and childish jokes about another country- also very smart! good judgment real presidential material!!!!

Posted by: melissa | Jul 20, 2008 8:45:47 PM

Geeza, I forgot tht I also posted on - I don't hold Obama responsible for others,but I do question his judgement re association with so many bad or questionable mentors.

Posted by: Manitu | Jul 20, 2008 8:40:39 PM

Manitu

I am not an Obama guy. I am not even an American. I am simply someone who has a regard for Truth and who is trying to inject some proper rationality into the discussions.

Posted by: Geeza | Jul 20, 2008 8:30:40 PM

'FOX is not a legitimate news organization and the majority of moderate and non-partisan Americans do not take them seriously. Everyone knows they are just the propaganda arm of the Republican party"

Frankly Jeremy... the fourth estate is dead!

But statements beginning ,"Everyone knows....." are no less facetious than the information offered by these semi-news sources.

HILLARY OR MCCAIN


but always:
COUNTRY OVER PARTY!!!!!

Posted by: BETWEEN THE EARS: | Jul 20, 2008 8:28:38 PM

Manitu

One can be strongly opposed to gay marriages but still work positively on a business project with someone who is in such a relationship. You therefore cannot justifiably judge a person by the words or actions of someone else whom he happens to know or associate with. Guilt based purely on association is another injustice.

So, if you can show me where and when Obama has himself damned America or said anything that even remotely approaches that, then and only then will I consider the point as being a reasonable one worth raising. But please don't point me to the words or deeds of someone else. If anything, it only re-enforces the view that Obama is someone who is always prepared to set aside differences between him and others and instead work positively on what they have in common for the common good. This seems to be totally consistent with everything he says and does. Remember, he had a strong and loving relationship with his grandmother whom he nevertheless saw as having racist attitudes. Such open-heartedness is difficult for some people to understand.

Posted by: Geeza | Jul 20, 2008 8:22:44 PM

What remains is this: McCain had good judgment and Obama had poor judgment.

Done

Posted by: drjohn | Jul 20, 2008 8:00:18 PM

Geeza.

Not many are blaming Obama for someone else's beliefs or rants. It's just that Obama has chosen to surround himself and family with a lot of bad or questionable people. It is a question of judgment, not of Wright, Ayers, etc. But a question of Obama's judgement.

Posted by: Manitu | Jul 20, 2008 7:59:50 PM

Maliki is Obama’s Iraqi twin - he also flip-flops and wants to be all things to all people. Maliki wants to please the Sunnis, the Shiites, Al-Queda, the Taliban - you name it! He also speaks out of both sides of his mouth. I am amazed how some people here are praising Maliki now that he appears to agrees with their idol - before Maliki was accused of not stepping up to the plate, not taking control of Iraq. Lol! Hope Obama does not start throwing money to the throngs in the street! Oh, I forgot - it is the reverse - they tithe their hard earned money to him!

Posted by: Beckie | Jul 20, 2008 7:59:12 PM

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