Candidate X: McCain Using Bill Clinton's Words Against Obama

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The equation canidate X or Y refers to the past. He was referring to President Bush Sr. and President Clinton(him self). The argument at the time was Clinton was unknown and untested President Bush Sr. was a known and tested but the public didnt agree with him on the economy remember read my lips no new taxes. The then Governor Clinton bashed Bush about the ecomony and the people of America agreed with him. But he was unknown and untested. He futher talked about it in his speech at the DNC. Mcain fell into and trap set by the former President Clinton. Wait till Clintons rebutatal and you will see that IM right.

Called On It:

Good point, but I slightly disagree. God instructed David to war with the Philistines (read I Chronicles). There is a time and a place for everything...including war.

The topic of abortion is easy to harp on by the "conservatives" and the "evangelicals" because its a sin that's EASY to avoid. Measure that against lying, deceiving, loving one another, caring for the poor, among the other commandments and statutes and we ALL fall short everytime. Humans enjoy pointing their fingers at others but fail to realize when they point the finger, four of their fingers point back to them.

I wonder of Obama is going to make the ads of all the republicans that have spoken ill of McCain?

Gosh, there's so much material. Where do you start?

If it were me, I would start with Thad Cockburn's premonition that the notion of a McCain presidency sends icy shivers down his spine.

What John McCain says and what he votes for (or doesn't show up to vote at all ) are far apart. He is " shilling for the drilling " because that put millions into his campaign. He is pragmatic when it comes to doing whats best for Johnny McShame.

I actually hadn't said anything yet on the topic. You will see from my last post that I feel a holistic view must be applied to life.

However impassioned you may feel about the topic, please refrain from personal attacks.

If your goal is to persuade me (in this case I'm already there) then post your argument and leave it at that.

In American we have to be able to have a logical discussion without personal attacks in order to move this country forward on sound logic, compromise, and a shared objective... be that to provide healthcare to prevent the funerals of babies...

I am a father of three and wouldn't want to bury my children.

What I do want for them is opportunity. An opportunity to grow, to help others, to live.

"Hillary supporters for McCain" should stop using that line and just start using "Woman supporter for the guy that beat my woman in the primaries". I don't mind idiocy from these people as it seems fairly common, but stop pretending that your choice is about issues and just admit that you're just bitter and petty and aren't going to change your mind.

You'll save everyone a lot of time and effort that way.

I've read all the comments so far and my response to McCain supporters is to repeat Dennis Kucinich's words from last night: "Wake up, America! Wake up, America!" It's pretty simple. You who are so wild about McCain: When you look around, can you honestly say that the Republican "regime" has made this country better? I don't think so. If you want more of the same, go ahead and vote for McCain. Then don't complain when the economy spirals into a further decline while we continue spending precious dollars on the war in Iraq that would be far better spent on this country where we have so many important issues to deal with -- home foreclosures, increasing cost of gas, insurance, food, loss of jobs, etc., etc..the list of negatives goes on. The Bushites, including Mccain, are only too willingly to commit our troops to a meaningless war in Iraq while ignoring Afghanistan and the brave men and women veterans who come home to be disillusioned when they discover how little this government is doing to care for their needs. Wake up, America!

McCain: "John McCain has a record of taking stands against his party"

9/11 changed eveything

Here we go with wedge issues.

So lets say we vote "yes," to an anti-abortion platform but "no," to environmental responsibility that ultimately changes weather patterns, disrupts ecosystems, and harms farmers in poorer countries.

Or say "yes," to anti-abortion platforms and "no" to harmful subsidies that stack the deck against local farmers who are the bread basket for whatever country they live in... If malnutrition, violence, and deaths results, isn't our vote responsible?

We need to be making adult decisions on every issue.

There is no such thing as a Hillary supporter for McCain. I was a Hillary supporter and therefore a Dem. Why would any woman vote for McCain - he doesn't stand for women's rights; he isn't pro-choice; and his policices don't have the best interests of this country in mind, regardless of what he says! Do you think how he treated his first wife is is something a Hillary supporter should condone?

To Animal Farmish - don't talk about Abortion as being illegal and murder until you've attended the funeral of babies under the age of 4 months who died of neglect. I've been to two in the last two years in which they were left alone one with a bottle in the mouth so mom could get high in the other room. Did those babies deserve to come into this world just because. NO they did not deserve to come into this world to be abused -

Oooh, Jill, that's some scary stuff.
I love the idea of you and the GOP having exclusive rights to God and religion.

Anyone who is pro-life for only the womb is a hypocrit and not a faithful steward of everything that God has created.

1.) Pro-life
2.) Anti-Execution
3.) Anti-War
4.) Anti-poverty
5.) Healthcare for the poor
6.) Environmental Steward

Which party has a platform that has a full respect for and covers a true stewardship of God's creation?

You should be either hot or cold, not lukewarm.

Jaysus, political parties are destroying our moral fiber.

Here is what I find to be of absolute hilarity or either an indication that African American men in American have somehow turned a page.

Since when did African American men become the chosen ones to hold THEE top positioning in America, the office of President?

Look around your office... How many are there first off and secondly more to the point of the argument, are in positions of managerial importance (VP of Finance, CEO, President, etc.)

To those that say Barack is being grandfathered into the Presidency...HOW? Please provide the evidence and your model. He misses on all the archetypal cues in every way.

Either American reality has changed or some people's perceptions are not in line with it to suggest he was groomed from day one to be the President.

We have an example already in office that fits this perceived reality to a "T."

Anyone breaking through the glass ceiling...a Woman, A Hispanic, A Native American, an African American, a Chinese American, A Samoan,...anyone who has not previously fit the bill of perception as Commander-In-Chief...

...Opens the door to everyone.

Looking back people will say if an African American (a Woman, a Laotian descendant, while not physically looking like the historical trend can excel in the office of POTUS, then why not someone else who doesn't fit the historical trend in 2012 or 2016?

Let's put this on the table as well. John McCain is getting an assumed 5 to 10 points in votes simply because he is the White male candidate in a race against a non-White male candidate for the office of POTUS. Do we want this to be a deciding factor in our presidential elections where there could be a woman, a Hmong American, a Mexican American, or other running against a traditionally perceived candidate?

Yeah, and JMC is linked to the syndicate crime family in the WH.. Illegal war, profiteering, theft and murder... But hey, he was a POW so none of that counts .right?

How utterly sad.

There are disaffected women all over this country who projected their plight through one person whom they know from their television sets. They received her loss as a their own personal rejection, and are now determined to sabotage an election in order to "punish" this nation.

They have managed to convince themselves that this is not the most critical election in the nation's history into a misguided women's movement.

This election, very clearly, rests with the actions of the 27% of Hil's supporters who claim that they will vote not for this country, not for the Democratic Party, and certainly not for the millions who have been devastated through the current administration's policies and actions, losing their jobs, faith in their country, and in 4000 cases - their lives. They will vote on behalf of a twisted revenge that will unquestionably damage the real women's movement. The one where you play with the big boys, and you fight like hell. And if you lose, you look back at the fight and congratulate the fact that you may not be the person representing the values of a nation, and you take satisfaction in knowing that the right team will win.

The reality is that, statistically, Obama had precisely the same hill to overcome in race. Women seem to have forgotten that fact. They saw sexism, and dismissed racism. They were both present, and affected both candidates equally.

Why? Because the Republicans made it so.

You're being sucked into a game where, like in 2000 and 2004, with the majority of Americans now wanting a Democratic administration, the opposition has simply pulled the wool over many eyes, employing a divide and conquer tactic.

I beg you to vote for this nation.

Equality isn't far away, and this is not the time to send it further.

To those who say Obama has a thin resume...too thin to be president, I either have to submit that you are either biased against him for some personal reason or you simply are unaware of how much legislative "experience" past presidential candidates have held prior to running.

*** Obama's legislative Experience ***
From 1997 - 2007 he has been working on legislative matters either at the State or Federal Level prior to running for President.

*** Hillary's Legislative Experience ***
From 2001 - 2007 she has been working on legislative matters at the Federal Level prior to running for President.

*** George W. Bush Legislative Experience***
From 1995 - 1999, he was the governor in Texas prior to running for Office.

Who has the thinnest resume on legislative experience? ITS NOT SENATOR OBAMA.

People who push this idea of a thin resume for Senator Obama are doing one of two things: (1) being deliberately deceptive in pushing this position or (2) being woefully uninformed of the facts.

Either way you should not push "opinions" and personal bias not grounded in fact as FACT.