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Carsy -
Apparently you're unaware that Biden is fully in agreement with McCain about Georgia. In fact, Biden is pushing the president to send Georgia $1 BILLION to help them rebuild. Yes, we can all see what's going on.

There's a crisis in a region of the world that is of importance to us and as usual, most of you libs want to hide and play chicken. Then when/if something happens, you will blame whomever is in charge for not forseeing the problem. You sure have all your bases covered that way.

How can Cindy McCain be going to Georgia if US troops are not fully engaged in the country? I kept hearing Cheney's Blackwater mercenaries were used during the Georgian invasion of South Ossetia, this just confirms that.

I think most Americans are smart enough to see through this whole situation. This is a use/use on both the McCain and Georgian government sides. Everyone knows it.

This is all well and good, but I can't imagine the level of outrage about how "pompous" the Obamas were if they sent Michelle to assess a war zone.

hey marylou - heiresses had better spend their whole lives doing charity work. Wow, being a beauty pagent contestant in your 20's is so much more impressive than going to Princeton and Harvard on scholarship.

Bush is a genius compared to pelosi who doesn't know gas is a fossil fuel.

We never hear about Cindy's step sister who lives in Appalachia.

Michelle gave a great speech. She loves her husband. He loves her. Two little kids love their dad and miss him. She and Barrack are running for president for their children to grow up in a better world. Once he's president the Iraq war will be ended responsibly. The economy will improve. Kids will have better schools and preschool will be free to everyone!

Michelle loves America and she and Barrack think often of improving the lot of our troops and want to bring all of them home safely.

Michelle's mom is proud of her daughter and son in law and their relatives are behind them as well.

The only thing missing is a cute puppy, a warm fireplace and a sunbeam somehow shining on the podium.

What a great first night to the convention. Loved Michelle's speech. The Carter video about hurricane Katrina was awesome as was the one dedicated to Ted Kennedy.

IMO, the best speech was given by former U.S. Representative for Iowa Jim Leach, a Republican.

WHY!!

What can she do over there? She has two sisters here that she will not acknowledge, her own flesh and blood. What a hypocrite?

If Cindy McCain is off to Georgia to look at casualties - somebody better lock up the medicine cabinent right away.

Peach: Wow, I checked out the CBS4 website in Denver. That Tharin Gartrell dude looks like a (more) pissed off version of Vanilla Ice. I've been worried about this type of thing since Barack's campaign started.

Michelle's father had MS; it's a terrible disease. I think that's what Neil Cavuto has.

Michelle looks beautiful this evening.

It's nice to meet you, Blair.

So this fool hearted rebuttal of yours makes no sense.

When this never happen until the Republicans controlled the House, the Senate, the Judicary, and the Executive Branch of Govt.

So get over it.

The last 8 years are on the backs of Republicans JUST AS McCAIN IS.

YES WE THE PEOPLE CAN

NOT LISTEN TO YOUR LIES.

LIVE WELL

BYE

Okay Underdog, You go waste your time watching Michelle impugn and vilify the America, that has the "meanest people". Let her tell you how "proud she is of her country for the first time in her life".

So what caused prices to go so high? Home bubbles are nothing new. The bubbles are characterized by people buying an asset and thinking they can sell it at a higher price regardless of the fact that the price being paid is completely out of whack relative to fundamentals such as income. At their root, all bubbles are driven by individual greed -- the desire to make money.

Think of it this way: Every buyer over the last few years had a choice: Buy a home or rent an apartment... Many leaped into the housing market even as prices climbed to such high levels because they thought they could sell at a higher price. This bubble is larger than any we have seen since at least World War II because the sub-prime markets gave buyers the means to speculate like never before.

In addition to federal laws that pressure lenders to lend to people they would not otherwise lend to, and in places where they would otherwise not invest, state and local governments have in various parts of the country so severely restricted building as to lead to skyrocketing housing prices, which in turn have led many people to resort to “creative financing” in order to buy these artificially more expensive homes.

Meanwhile, the Federal Reserve System brought interest rates down to such low levels that “creative financing” with interest-only mortgage loans enabled people to buy houses that they could not otherwise afford.

I don't know if you knew this, underdog, but Democrats pushed legislation to require banks into areas they previously didn't lend because of rampant unemployment and overspending, etc. The banks were greedy and very much to blame for not pushing back against this legislation, and they made some horrible loans. But Congressional Democrats are also responsibile for pushing that legislation that forced the banks to make loans that a few years ago they would not have made.

Peach: My name is Blain, Blair Stevie Stevens is my sister.

Gotto Go

Obama's Wife, a true American who wants to see America as a place where all of it's people will live better.

Not the class system of Old England.

YES WE CAN

OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT

WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT

Underdog -- what broken promise about abortion? And the housing crisis has been 8 years in the making? Wow, tell Wall Street. Alert the media. Because that's not the story they are telling.

Peach,

This housing thing is a progression of the last 8 years of a dumb ... President and Greedy Majority House and Senate Majority of Republicans and you know it.

Just live in Reality.. The Lies on produce more Lies.

That is what the Republicans have been pushing down Americans throats for the last eight years.

Remember the promise of Moral Values..
The Sex scandals.
The broken promises of Abortion

By Geoffrey Colvin, FORTUNE senior editor-at-large
March 15, 2006: 5:13 PM EST

(FORTUNE Magazine) - I have good news and bad news. The good news is that income inequality in the U.S. -- after 30-plus years of steadily increasing -- may be decreasing. The bad news is why that trend is reversing. It looks like another lesson in how profoundly a globalizing economy is upending what we thought we knew.

In other words, the poor are getting richer and the disparity between rich and poor is closing.

Uh, underdog, not to be picky with facts or anything, but you did know that Dems took control of the House and Senate in 2007, right?

Blair Steve Stevens:

I don't know what Cindy McCain has done with visiting vets in this country, but I know her husband does visit them quite frequently.

As to helping in her own country, Cindy does this:

That year, McCain founded a new organization, the Hensley Family Foundation, which donates monies towards children's programs in Arizona and nationally,[9

Undergog,
Until you have been tortured for 5 1/2 yrs, 2 of those in solitary confinement for not leaving when told to do so by his captors because he refused to leave without his fellow POW's, don't judge.

NYT:

The records that he released included a battery of the standard psychological evaluations given to prisoners of the Vietnam War after their release. Dr. Michael M. Ambrose, director of the Robert E. Mitchell Center for Prisoner of War Studies in Pensacola, Fla., and Dr. Jeffrey L. Moore, a clinical neuropsychologist at the center, wrote in a statement at the time that “Senator McCain has never been diagnosed with or treated at the center for a psychological or psychiatric disorder."

Peach: I wasn't alive when Hanoi Jane went to Viet Nam but I do know that there are many maimed and decapitated vets here in Veteran's hospitals who would appreciate a visit from Mrs. McCain. She should look after her own country's people first.

underdog:

Truly, you need a more up-to-date sorce of information if you're going to keep
posting.
Try it! You'll like it!

Peach,

It all happen under the Republican watch of the House and Senate..

What a fool believes, when some get rich and others become no more than servants/// as in the British Rule

Jim, Lol, Obama's campaign office in Houston actually had a "Che" flag hanging on the wall. And who said Obama doesn't support the flag?

On the other hand, the depressed housing market is letting people buy a home when they couldn't afford it previously because of the inflated prices.

I was a commercial real estate investment analyst and this country has gone through ups and downs in various sectors, and this is just another one of those times. It's scary on a variety of levels for some people, especially people who like to live above their income.

McCain Knew about Keaton:

Yes He Did

And yes he will do it again.

Keaton 5

But would you want a man who tried to commit suicide as President with his hand on the button.

He may decide to take us all with him

He was cut down from a rope while in Vietnam.

Love him, but not for President.

So let's see, people bought homes they could not afford. Banks should not have written the mortgages and most folks knew they couldn't make the payments. And I'm supposed to what? Got nuts? Blame Bush?

Where was the Congressional oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac? Asleep at the switch, that's where they were. As usual.

oK PEACH,

Let's do a comparison, Wright's speech, Kelso or whoever, compared to a forclosure of 1.3 millions peoples homes going to Banks. Jobs lost to other Countries.

Your brain is not functioning.

What is more important

Jim -

And Nancy Pelosi is trying to save the planet and Obama said we would look back at this time as when we saved the planet and the oceans rose. These people are delusional.

Gosh, Obama's judgment is so flawed that after months of whining that McCain's judgment is so bad (because he supported the war in Iraq) that he shouldn't be president, what did Obama do?

Why, he chose as his VP a man who voted the exact same way as McCain.

So much for Obama's "superior" judgment.

eyes wide open

You must be eyes blood shot:

Do you really believe that he did not know what was going on.

What a fool believes.

And just like his past on crash three jets in training of the airforce, he got another pass.

Even if he did not know, is this a man we want as President who would support a Con Man without knowing the FACTS.

Underdog - keep pretending that McCain was guilty of anything in the Keating 5.

Meanwhile, let's just ignore Ayers, Rezko (and now Biden has been tied to Rezko according to ABC News), Rev. Wright, Frank whatisname, etc., etc.

peach
Very aware, none of them are running for President..

Is that a surpise to you.

Wake up.

This is about your grand childrens being homeless

I know about the Keating 5. There were 4 democrats and McCain involved. 3 dems were found guilty and McCain and John Glenn were not faulted. Keating used a lot of people and McCain and others fell for it. McCain is the only one who testified against Keating in his trial.
I also know about Obama's dirty dealings with Rezko. Also Obama's associations with Bill Ayres, Rev Wright, Father Plaegar,etc, show his bad judgement. The endorsements of Hamas and Louis Farakhan should also be called into question.

Spoozle Loaf, dear, I don't know how old you are, but Jane Fonda visited the enemy while our soldiers were being killed and talked badly about her own country.

Cindy McCain is visiting Georgia, which, btw, she has visited for years, and she is supporting the country, which Biden supports as well.

Biden wants Bush to send $1 billion dollars to help Georgia rebuild.

Gotta go watch the convention...

Catch you later, McWar lovers!

Underdog -

Apparently you're unaware that 3 Democrats were found guilty of misconduct in the Keating 5 mess.

McCain was found innocent of all charges.

The Ethics Committee ruled that the involvement of McCain in the scheme was also minimal, and he too was cleared of all charges against him.[17][16] McCain was criticized by the Committee for exercising "poor judgment" when he met with the federal regulators on Keating's behalf.[6] The report also said that McCain's "actions were not improper nor attended with gross negligence and did not reach the level of requiring institutional action against him....Senator McCain has violated no law of the United States or specific Rule of the United States Senate."[20]

Obama is upset there is an ad out linking him to Ayers claiming it was a long time ago in the "60s". Based on that logic, I guess we should stop our hunt for Osama.

Obama’s extensive ties to Ayers.

Ayers was one of the original grantees of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, or CAC, a school reform organization in the 1990s, and was cochairman of the Chicago School Reform Collaborative, one the two operational arms of the CAC. In 1995 Obama became chairman of the CAC under Ayers’ leadership.

Also in 1995, the first organizing meeting for Obama’s state senatorial campaign was reportedly held in Ayers’s apartment.

In a widely-circulated article that became a main theme of the presidential campaign, WND first reported that Obama served on the board of the Woods Fund, a liberal Chicago nonprofit, alongside Ayers from 1999 to December 11, 2002, according to the Fund’s website. According to tax filings, Obama received compensation of $6,000 per year for his service in 1999 and 2000.

Ayers, who still serves on the Woods Fund board, contributed $200 to Obama’s senatorial campaign fund and has served on panels with Obama at numerous public speaking engagements.

Ayers, currently a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago, was a member of the Weathermen terrorist group which sought to overthrow of the U.S. government and took responsibility for bombing the U.S. Capitol in 1971.

He has admitted to involvement in the bombings of U.S. governmental buildings in the 1970s.

“I don’t regret setting bombs. I feel we didn’t do enough,” Ayers told the New York Times in an interview released on September 11, 2001

“Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon,” Ayers wrote in his memoirs, titled Fugitive Days. He continued with a disclaimer that he didn’t personally set the bombs, but his group set the explosives and planned the attack.

Underdog:

McCain was EXONERATED of ALL charges in the Keaton5 case almost a quarter of a century ago.

The ones who WEREN'T... were Democrats!Check it out!

If Michelle or Obama were to suddenly start doing charity work, it would be called political, plain and simple. They have never done charity work, they only give lowest of anyone in office 2%. They can't even give some of that to Obama's poor relations living in squalor on $1 a month. How is that for charity!
The reason McCain wasn't sure how many homes tehy owned ws because Cindy inherited homes that are in trust and they let their relatives live in them for free.
I think it is admirable that the McCains saw a sick 5 week old baby that was not expected to live and adopted her .

Can't understand:

Those of you who see fellow Americans lose their homes and then think that McCain who was involved with the Keaton 5 would even consider voting for this man.

Are we the fools that they protray us to be.

Do we forget that easily.

I don't think so.

Yes we Can

and No we can't let the same History repeat itself.

do a search on Keaton 5

I find what Cindy McCain is doing (going to Georgia during a time of war there) is like what Jane Fonda did when she went to Hanoi.

Rick...

Get over it!

Maybe next time, your candidate will win!

After returning home from his weekend visit to the Republic of Georgia, Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE) said that Russia’s invasion of Georgia was based on false claims of atrocities, and that this was one of the most significant events to occur in Europe since the end of communism. Biden also promised to work with the Bush administration to push through $1 billion in emergency aid for Georgia.

“I left the country convinced that Russia’s invasion of Georgia may be the one of the most significant event to occur in Europe since the end of communism. The claims of Georgian atrocities that provided the pretext for Russia’s invasion are rapidly being disproved by international observers, and the continuing presence of Russian forces in the country has severe implications for the broader region,” Biden said.

He stressed that his war is no longer about Georgia, but whether or not the West will stand up for the rights of free people, “The war that began in Georgia is no longer about that country alone. It has become a question of whether and how the West will stand up for the rights of free people throughout the region. The outcome there will determine whether we realize the grand ambition of a Europe that is whole, free, and at peace.”

So the bourgeois elitism that has been lurking beneath the surface finally shows itself. You think that anyone who is poor deserves it, despite the fact that the majority of poor people do work. This class hatred comes from overprivilege, only someone who has never struggled to pay the bills could be that bitter and filled with bile toward working people.

"But they're describing "Barbie McLame's" trip as missionary work instead of what it really is, a tacky political move using injured soldiers as props, what a joke!!!
Posted by: fool me once | Aug 25, 2008 9:30:07 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>

NO!
This isn't a once, in a lifetime act for Cindy McCain!

This is a woman who has given of herself... and her money... time after time... mostly for the benefit of children in need of medical care.

She hsa already B E E N to Georgia on such missions... so this is nothing new to her!

I guess ... if you're an Obama naut... you're not used to seeing such charity and kindness on display with no political payback, and that's why you're questioning it.

Otherwise, I would have to assume that you're just another meanspirited misanthrope who indeed can be fooled more than just once!

Keaton 5

You may forget, but I remember

If McCain did not know about it then he made a bad Judgement call to be involved in something he knew about.

I don't think so.

Yes we can

Nice to see Obama supporters have continued with their gross insults instead of providing facts for a discussion. If Obama wins, and I doubt it, it will be the liberal left in power and it will be their way only.

LOL, hyper bites. Very Good.

If Michelle Obama were to go to Georgia to perform this clearly fake and phony sympathy act the press and Obama haters would have a field day critizing her. But they're describing "Barbie McLame's" trip as missionary work instead of what it really is, a tacky political move using injured soldiers as props, what a joke!!!

My the Obama progressives, liberal left at their sexist, misogynistic best. Seems they have learned nothing from the consequences of their discriminatory comments concerning gender. Seems ageism is also par for the course for them.

And how about their hatred of the rich for being rich. Rather than working for what they have, they are toooo busy envying and wanting what others have. Except they want theirs the easy. If Cindy McCain inherited wealth its because someone in her family worked their off to achieve it.

I know immigrants who came to this country 10 years ago and worked two jobs. Today they have two homes. One they rent out. Work, save, and stop envying maybe you'll get somewhere.

Cindy McCain: Clearing land mines one at a time (by sending American soldiers into minefields)

John McCain, Sending Your Kids to War for Over 25 Years

Nice Slogan. Accurate, too.

Why didn't she adopt a child from the US? Answer: Because the McCains hate America.

Biden loves war too. He wanted American boots on the ground in the Balkans, for goodness sake.

And right after 9/11, the supposed expert on foreign affairs said this:

At the Tuesday-morning meeting with committee staffers, Biden launches into a stream-of-consciousness monologue about what his committee should be doing, before he finally admits the obvious: "I'm groping here." Then he hits on an idea: America needs to show the Arab world that we're not bent on its destruction. "Seems to me this would be a good time to send, no strings attached, a check for $200 million to Iran," Biden declares. He surveys the table with raised eyebrows, a How do ya like that? look on his face.

The staffers sit in silence. Finally somebody ventures a response: "I think they'd send it back." Then another aide speaks up delicately: "The thing I would worry about is that it would almost look like a publicity stunt." Still another reminds Biden that an Iranian delegation is in Moscow that very day to discuss a $300 million arms deal with Vladimir Putin that the United States has strongly condemned. But Joe Biden is barely listening anymore. He's already moved on to something else.

If by "she works", you mean she gets lots of plastic surgery, then I guess I see your point.

Mike you forgot the 130 "present" votes as a state senator, the 1 bill passed as Senator and no meetings of the Senate Foreign Relations subcommitte on Afghanistan that he never found time to call a meeting. But his buddy Biden covered for him.

So Mike- what about the adoptions, working with groups clearing landmines and the OPeration Smile for children with cleft palates. Would you care to comment?

Obama loves war too, he doesn't want to get left behind, except he says whatever is expedient at the moment:

In an interview with the editorial board of the Chicago Tribune published September 26, 2004,Democratic Senate candidate Barack Obama said he would favor the use of “surgical” missile strikes against Iran if it failed to bow to Washington’s demand that it eliminate its nuclear energy program. Obama also said that, in the event of a coup that removed the Musharraf regime in Pakistan, the US should attack that nation’s nuclear arsenal.

jschmidt, you have to get with the times. McCain has pulled the mother teresa story from his website because it was found out to be fabricated. The second Mrs. McCain never met mother teresa, it turns out.

Rick:

She led 55 of these missions over the next seven years,[17] with each being of at least two weeks' duration.[35] AVMT also supplied treatment to poor sick children around the world.[36] In 1993, Cindy McCain and the AVMT were honored with an award from Food for the Hungry.[9]

No, she doesn't work at all. /sarcasm

I wonder if the "Stepford Wife" will tell these poor people her lies about Mother Teresa,and her work with the orphans in India? McCain and his wife AKA "Cruella Di Vil" are 2 very scary & creepy people ! She is about as compassionate as a deep crevasse in a glacier!

Rick,

There she participated in a movement therapy pilot program that laid the way for a standard treatment for children with severe disabilities;[17] she published the work Movement Therapy: A Possible Approach in 1978.[20] Declining a role in the family business,[21] she then began a special education teaching career working with children with Down syndrome and other disabilities at Agua Fria High School in Avondale, Arizona.[17][6][14]

Anyone notice how the McCains like to spend their vacations in war zones? John-Iraq, Cindy-Georgia. These people are war-lovers!

Cindy McCain has never worked a day in her life. No wonder she and her husband think this economy is doing so well

jschmidt -
Thank you for posting that about Operation Smile and the clearing of the land mines. I'd forgotten about that.

She walks the walk. Yes, she's rich and so easier for her to do than many others. But plenty of rich people don't donate their time and money to such worthy causes.

In all, since entering the State/U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096.

During the first - 8 - eight years of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced
233 regarding healthcare reform,
125 on poverty and public assistance,
112 crime fighting bills,
97 economic bills,
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 ethics reform bills,
15 gun control,
6 veterans affairs and many others.

Hi peach,

I've heard of investment property...unfortunately, I've also heard of dementia, which McCain seems to exhibit on a weekly basis.

Obamas record:

His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included

1. Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 - became law,
2. Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, - became law,
3. Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
4. 2007 Government Ethics Bill, became law,
5. Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, In committee, and many more.

Mrs:McCain:In 1991, Mrs. McCain came across a girl in an orphanage in Bangladesh . Mother Teresa implored Mrs. McCain to take the baby with severe cleft palate. She did so without first telling her husband. The couple adopted the girl who has had a dozen operations to repair her cleft palate and other med ical problems. They have a Family Foundation for children's causes.She's active with 'Halo Trust' - to clear land mines, provide water and food in war ravaged and developing countries.She will join an overseas mission of 'Operation Smile', a charity for corrective surgery on children's faces. She has had two back surgeries and became addicted to pain killers. She talks openly about it which she says is part of the recovery process.

Rick, apparently you've never heard the term "investment property". Sad.

Here's a joke for you:

Why did Cindy McCain go to Georgia?
Because John McCain was a POW.

Doesn't make sense? Neither does using McCain's POW experience as an excuse for forgetting how many homes he has.

Jchmidt, good post:

"He passed 1 bill while in the senate and never had a meeting of his Senate Foreign Relation subcommittee on Afganhistan. I'd say that was part time and no leadership."

Mike- Obama has been a part time senator since he was elected since he has been running for President since then. He passed 1 bill while in the senate and never had a meeting of his Senate Foreign Relation subcommittee on Afganhistan. I'd say that was part time and no leadership.

You all are seriously going to gab back and forth about which potential first lady is worse? Ridiculous, though I guess that is to be expected based on the vacuous premise of the original post.

I have to give Cindy McCain a lot of credit...anyone who can organize that many house-sitters must be good at something!

Hopefully she tells the Georgians not to shoot at the Russians next time.

gary, hope and change is a whole lot more than guilt by association. If you dont have anything good to say about your candidate, dont bother saying anything at all.

"I hope that when she visits the misfortunate Georgians, she doesn't look jaundiced and sinister eyed like she does in the picture. They've endured enough fear."

Posted by: kat | Aug 25, 2008 8:26:01 PM

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Equally apropos of nothing:

Talk about lack of beauty.... there's big-boned muscle bound Michele.....

I think it's time to eliminate the wives from the nasties... and concentrate on the REAL issues!