Political Punch

George W Bush had "no experience" when he became president but succeeded in balloxing up almost everything he touched. Why? He didn't have the qualities neccessary for leadership. Obama has qualities neccesary for being an effective president. God help us if McCain becomes president to give us eight more years of Bush!
If Bill Clinton is the keynote speaker at the Democratic Nat's Convention, it may be a hint as to who Obama's VP will be.
Nuff said.

I have been a Democrat since I started to vote at 18. I have never voted for a Republican in my life but, I guess there is a first time for everything. Obama is an inexperienced, half of a first term senator, who, instead of serving his term and trying to LEARN something, let his ego get the best of him. He has spent almost his whole time in the senate running for President. As shown in the debates, he knows little if anything on the important issues, he would wait for Hillary to answer and either agree with her or say the same thing just changing the words around a little. Had voters in the first primaries known about Wright, Rezko, Ayers, and all of his other crooked friends, I doubt he would be this far anyway. I bet there is more "buyer's remorse" out there than anyone realizes. Hillary Clinton knows the issues inside and out, and made him look like an uninformed idiot in the debates. How anyone can vote for this ego maniac is beyond me. He was given stolen votes by the "rules committee" for a state that he took his name off of the ballot. Why should he get votes that were rightfully hers? Not to mention that the "super delegate" system is a farce! If you look at how many of the super delegates got money from Obama's and Pelosi's pacs and how many voted against their own constituency after that donation it shows you how many elected officials can be bought and paid for. Obama is crooked and he just knows how to work a crooked system. I will be voting John McCain in November.

Why is HRC having to do more for the DNC and Obama than her predecessors (Ted Kennedy, Bill Bradley, Gary Hart, etc.) ever did after they lost the nomination to the eventual nominee? Is this one of those sexism thing again?
Look, Ted Kennedy would not shake Carter's hand at the convention even though he was a distant second.

Hillary does not owe the DNC or Obama anything. It should not be up to Hillary to see that Obama wins the election. It's Obama who has to win the election on his own merit.

Let the roll call happen. Just as it has in years past. This is the democratic process. Frankly the DNC is loosing this race.
If Hillary looses, she looses. If Obama looses he looses.
This is politics people.

Personally, if Obama wins, I will not vote for him. He is not the experience we need.

I am a Life time Democrat who is ready to change parties!

OK, we assume that the creepy Clintons are going to make a grab for the candidacy at the convention. One somewhat cynical view would be that they would start releasing cover stories so that their bad behavior would not look so bad. One of those might be that other candidate (cough John Edwards) were as bad as they are. Hmmm..., how would tht work? It might be difficult to get Edward to agree to expose himself the way creepy Bill did to female workers in Arkansas.

Bill will not be announcing Hillary as VP. Evan Byah is not on the schedule to speak and that could be telling.

“I happen to believe that we will come out stronger if people feel that their voices were heard and their views were respected. I think that is a very big part of how we actually come out unified."

The voices of the American electorate HAS ALREADY spoken. Hillary LOST. End of story!

Well, well, well, Bill Clinton has been tapped to give the opening speech at the convention prior to Obama announcing his running mate for the campaign. This can mean only thing! Either Hillary is being tapped as the vice-president or being given a large roll in Obama's administration otherwise Bill Clinton would have told them to go fly a kite! So, little Obama couldn't get the polls to go high enough in his favor and now he has to go to a girl, the gender that he bashed during his campaign in the primary, to help him get elected! lolololol! I am loving it! And, I actually still hope he loses to McCain, little pompous nit!

"Sharonklim" ...voting is not "hype", if you cast aside your rights and liberties as a American you have lost everything no matter what you think of a canidate, Barrack, Hillary, or McCain. All voices will be heard one way or another, whats your pleasure?

PARTY?????

'Only when you count votes including Michigan and Florida does Hilary Clinton receive more votes. "

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But none theless, some of the Michigan delegates were given to OBama... who had CHOSEN not to run.

And none theless, OBama, who fought tooth and nail against the seating of these two states.. now... after he has been SELECTED as the presumptuous (!)candidate... wants them to be FULLY seated.

What ever happened to the DEMOCRATIC

People get over it almost every other convention has a roll call? why not this one? Oh cause it's Hillary? Where is edwards? were is dodd, where is kunich? why is hilllary alone responsible for supporting barack? And I would think the DNC would want the last democratic president to speak at the convention.

Freedom:

The perfect recipe for NOT gaining influence and capturing votes.....:

"Just because she received more votes than Barak she knows she really isn't worthy to be on the same stage as him. She really should resign from the Senate and start baking cookies."

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...AND IF SO, then Obama should step out of the political rink and pen a few more novels!

Unfortunately and sadly all of hype regarding a vote at the Democratic Convention for a count of Hilary Clinton delegates has been strategically planned from the beginning. Hilary Clinton declared this option was going to be kept open. Fact is Hilary Clinton herself dropped out of the race, and she publicly endorsed Barack Obama. Clinton plans for this convention vote were/have always been their political strategy. She is portraying herself as the victim and appears to be the good sport. Facts support appearances by both of the Clintons reveal and appear they are very polarizing individuals using devious methods for their own benefit. History reveals when these two are involved in something enormous controversy and confusion present. I am very disappointed about the recent implied suggestive words used by Hilary Clinton to get supporters going again. This is good example of political campaign strategy gathering support slowly but surely. Both have been very quiet until reently. Now News Media hype stories have jumped to further nurture it's growth. President Clinton has now come out to reveal he just can not say he endorses Barack Obama and can not say he feels he is qualified. He further reveals he is upset about how he feels he and his wife were treated during the campaign. Yes, Hilary did experience gender bias, but is negated by fact Barack Obama experienced racial bias. Hilary Clinton herself is playing both sides saying all is well and stating she supports Barack Obama. It does appear she is trying to portray and gain support for herself as the good upstanding victimized Democratic candidate. This is another example of a "populist" political campaign strategy. This is very disappointing to see happen and to be tolerated by so many people.

I truthfully have some difficulty understanding why all of this has to occur. Facts just do not support many of the Clinton stances.
My long records with facts from articles on each candidate reveal Hilary Clinton was:
(1)Hilary Clinton was the more attack candidate secretly giving out and indiscretely inflicting smear tactics on Obama - examples are long and verified - Clinton's were indeed more personal smear attacks. Records about Barack Obama attacks on Hilary were much lower and were not personal strong smear attacks. Clinton has many bad, bad baggage that could have been used against her, but Barack Obama did not use. Facts seem to support this is not the type of campaign Barack Obama conducts. Facts reveal Clinton used in various public advertised and underground venues not publicized.
(2)Hilary Clinton took "populist" stances that were not factual fairness nor solutions, only wanting to gain votes for herself. Everyone needs to look up the true meaning and reasons for using "populist" stances. These political strategies play on emotional issues/concerns of the voters. Voters gain nothing by these stances as any beneficial outcomes of the stances will never be realized. Discouraging to see these types of stances taken when we have so many financial disasters affecting us today
(3)Unfair conduct pursuing votes and voters support(another "populist stance") for Michigan and Florida DNC declared non-sanctioned primaries - requesting votes stand from primaries when Michigan court made decision primaries were not legal primaries as state law moving date up is not legal - Hilary Clinton Campaign representatives were non - negotiating and took hostile stances - revealed and displayed during televised DNC Committee Meeting where final decision was voted upon regarding Michigan and Florida primary status and results and allocation of their delegates- facts reveal Barack Obama representatives displayed good stances and were trying to be fair and "give a little" as good will gestures - this was not shown on TV, but was during time when committee was out negotiating away from cameras- expert witnesses publicly testified Barack Obama had majority of vote for more delegates to go to his side but they suggested and supported giving Hilary more. This whole situation was most definitely not something any good parent would want to teach their children as an example of how to live life with good values abiding by present laws and rules for total fairness for all involved.
(4)Unfair to blame Barack Obama for not attempting to do more to pay off her campaign debt. Obama has been so polite and supportive. Would not let his supporters ridicule her- end of problem. He has asked his supporters to give to her campaign. Some have, but reality exists. Money is short for many people today. Difficult for them to give to both campaigns and support their families. FACT -Hilary Clinton raised great outstanding record breaking totals of campaign donations for her primary campaign too. Facts reveal Clinton campaign had intense personal controversies going on between staff, more confusion and blowups, revealed poor campaign management to keep campaign financially sound and in black, lack of control and questionable selection of campaign staff. Hilary Clinton should have been quite capable of clearing her debt if she truly had a great voter support existing even after the close of the Democratic primaries. Her monthly records of campaign donations indicated her debt would be whipped out easily if she really still had supporters as she now claims she has. I saw she campaigned strong even at the end not curtailing expenses even though her campaign was deeply in debt. So who is to blame for piling campaign debt up further? Barack Obama had nothing to do with any of Hilary Clinton Campaign finances or management of the money spent. Hilary Clinton did though. The Clinton's continued to pile up this debt themselves. Barack Obama had actually backed off heavy campaigning at the end saving money. Now Barack Obama is being blamed for this debt??? Unbiased common sense supports fact Hilary Clinton Campaign present debt is in all ways is reflective of Hilary Clinton's ineffective campaign oversight and financial management, and continued strong campaigning without regard to financial stability of her campaign.

These are only a few example of my long records I have accumulated and do not includes all the facts or reason I would /could include. This response would be qay too long.

I attempted to evaluate both candidate fairly from the beginning and throughout. I am actually Republican, but was not satisfied with present administration and Republicans. I was willing to evaluate all candidates o both parties. I originally started out favoring/supporting Hilary Clinton. But Hilary herself pushed me away. The records I kept do speak what is true and what isn't. Words are cheap. Barack Obama came out way ahead as a more honest and less vicious.

I find the all of the currents actions by Hilary Clinton Campaign and President Clinton planned all along. Their public appearances are very disturbing. Seem to reveal they want and feel they deserve and are entitled to alot of things. All is so very secretive??? Guess we will all see and evaluate facts as this story unfolds. I am quite disturbed and skeptical about their true motives. These two are well known for their polarizing political moves. All to be continued---

You are right! The Democratic party is slipping into oblivion and people like Kerry Obama Kennedy and Dodd are assisting it's departure. Obama'a super ego won't allow the vote on the convention floor because it will show how narrow his victory was for his campaign. Sounds like Republican behavior and tactics, doesn't it? We have Republican A running and Republican B. The Democratic party caught the last train to the coast, the day, the party died, and we were singing bye bye to our Dem party, drove the chevy to the convention, but the convention was dry, and the good ole' Dems were drinking whiskey and rye singing this is the day that our party has died, this is the day that our party died... It's a disgrace is what it is. And, they said today that Bill Clinton is doing the opening speech at the convention. lolol They found out how deep the Clinton's support runs in this country and never imagined they would have to solicit the Clinton's help to get their man, who they forced down the country's throat, Obama, elected. The last laugh is on them! And, if Bill is speaking after how infuriated he was by the way Obama treated Hillary and the way the Democratic party allowed Obama to treat Hillary, and the way the Dem party treated Hillary, you know they are being offered something HUGE FOR HILLARY. Well, well, well, the Dems forced their guy down our throats, AND THEY STILL NEED A GIRL TO GET HIM ELECTED!!!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL And, personally, I hope it doesn't work and that MCCain slams him in the election because that is how disgusted I am with the Democratic party. This is a perfect example of what happens when you have an inexperienced candidate running in a country that is largely demographically gray, and, have the young inexperienced voters come out in record numbers to vote for an inexperienced candidate because they can't tell the difference between a seasoned politician and a motivational speaker. I hope McCain slams him in the Novemeber election. I will dance in the streets! The Dem party has to learn a lesson so that they never pull this nonsense again!

Destini, isn't that exactly what Hillary was trying to do with Mi and Fl delegates, change the rules???? I guess you could say how dare Hillary, right.

There will be a political price to pay if he keeps her off the ballot. Hell, even Howard Dean's name was put into nomination. he didn't release his delegates, few as they were, until Kerry was being nominated.

How dare they change the rules?

If the "Democratic Party" will not "allow" a vote on the floor, then I feel we are seeing the slow and steady death of one of our most prized constitutional rights "the right to vote". I am sure some will say that I am being to dramatic but I do not like the direction this party is heading towards. I do not like how Speaker Pelosi runs "our" House or the
Party, no descent, no disscusion, no votes. I can only hope that there still some citizens of this party who are more interested in our liberties and rights than creating a mirage of unity for the TV cameras.

Hillary's 18 million + supporters will be paying very close attention to the way that the convention is handled. We do not want a pre-planned, symbolic, and superficial roll call vote. We want a legitimate convention in which Hillary's name is placed in nomination, and there will be a true vote.

We will not accept some type of phony democratic concoction for "unity's sake," indeed we demand true democracy.

The superdelegates have become a joke: backing the candidate who lost their states, and boosting the least electable candidate--making a mockery of their precise roles as superdelegates (to push the one who can actually win). The caucus system has become corrupt, archaic, and useless as well. There are many technical problems with the dem party. Furthermore, democrats in congress have the lowest approval ratings, and Howard Dean, Reid, Pelosi, Kerry, Brazile, et al are abhored by at least half of the dem party.

A great deal hangs on how the Denver convention is handled--we are already extremely turned off by Obama's arrogant show of Kinghood at the Mile High football stadium...

Believe me, we will be watching how the Denver convention goes down, and it could determine whether or not many democrats drop the democratic party this year. Hear this, I am sick of the "new" and "changed" dem party and I am not alone--not at all.

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Hillary scares me too, glad she's not the nominee.

"What is it about Obama and Hillary that causes the democrats to try to block a vote?"

She breaks his stride and beat him in the popular vote. He wants to win by moving the goal posts. She comes back and almost takes the nomination in a floor fight that erupts spontaneously.

IOW: as long as she and Bill are still standing, Obama cannot assume control of the party with confidence and that means they can successfully fight him throughout his single term in office. Obama is acting like Stalin hunting down Trotsky.

In short: she scares him and his handlers. She always has.

Since neither candidate has enough pledged delegates to secure the nomination, how can the Democrats possibly justify not putting Hillary's name up for a vote?

If the candidates were two white men, would there be any question or resistance?

If the candidates were two black men, would there be any question or resistance?

If the candidates were two women, would there be any question or resistance?

What is it about Obama and Hillary that causes the democrats to try to block a vote?

Obama and his supporters and the media have wanted a coronation right from the start. What a fascist farce. It's a slap in the face to anybody who truly supports the Democratic process.

Hillary wants to look like a good loser. Just because she received more votes than Barak she knows she really isn't worthy to be on the same stage as him. She really should resign from the Senate and start baking cookies. She is as irrelavant as her husband is.

"Is Bill going to be announcing Hillary as the next VP?"

It would be the smart strategy. So far the Obama machine is long on tactics and short on strategy.

It should be entertaining. Sad but so, this election season has been more about entertainment than substance and that is destroying our government.

Is Bill going to be announcing Hillary as the next VP? I wonder. David Gergen has been pushing for that - saying that Obama needs some fighter to go against the Rep attack machine.

dl sez: "...sad that a handful of dumb self whacked supporters on either side could hurt their own candidate this badly."

dl, I've explained it: Obama's supporters are his worst problem. This move to suppress the roll call only amplifies the perception of his weakness among the voters, his fear. Now we also see in Hollyweird the same kinds of dumb moves to suppress conservatives such as Jon Voight by hints of black listing the conservatives in the entertainment industry who come out against Obama.

Your candidate is in real trouble. The myth of inevitability is shattered. The Democrats have to decide right now if they want to win this election or go down with the ship with their cause intact. Their self-righteous noses stuck in the air will be the last thing we see as his ship disappears beneath the waves of his own arrogance.

Obama's camp reminds me so much of 'W' - mirror images of eachother really.

disect McCain
how does he live for last 20 years, how does he worship, how does he play. how does he vote then and now? we need more specifics. be fair

The Obamabots don't want a Convention, they want an innauguration. Obama ascends the mile-high Mount, delivers his Sermon, and everyone chants "yes we can". Next Obama will bless the loaves and fishes to distribute to the crowd.
There aill be photo-ops and sound bites galore. Why let a little thing like "Democracy" interfere with a perfectly staged event.

The DNC, together with significant support from a biased media, lost this election months ago. The DNC is so afraid that Obama will be embarrassed by a show of support for Clinton at the convention that they are doing their best to change the way things have been done for many, many years. What a sorry and sad state of affairs. This was the party that should have had a slam dunk win in this fall's election. Now they're just trying to find someone else to blame for their pending loss in November and it looks like Clinton will be the scapegoat.

Hillary is the best qualified to serve as Commander In Chief when comparing her to Obama and McCain. With reluctance I will vote for Obama but my preference is Senator Hillary Clinton. I would never vote for John McCain because it will be more of the same policies and our govt. will continue to be under the rule of a lame duck President.

The Democratic Party has become so UN-democratic that they should be ashamed to claim the name. And it's would be funny, if it were not such a sad commentary on a once great party, that Obama and his DNC backers have so little confidence in him that they are afraid to have Hillary's name brought up for a roll call vote. Once again, Democrats wimp out.

John:
"This supposed new great knight isn't really that great which is why the race was so close."

Had Obama’s “Wright baggage” been known before the first 11 primaries, Clinton would have won. It was nip and tuck in the voting after March 13, when Obama’s association with Wright hit the news.
In fact, Clinton won 8 of the last 13 primaries. The Obama "won" because he had not been vetted, and that’s a shame

Rob said:
"Obama is a new kind of politician!"

You got that right, cowboy.

Obama said:
"A light will shine down... from somewhere. It will light upon you. You will experience an epiphany... You will say to yourself, 'I have to vote for Barack' "

Obama doesn't need Hillary supporters for the general election.
He has some brilliant strategies like enrolling Republicans to become 'Democrat for a Day' and vote for him, bring busloads of supporters to the caucuses, Republicans will vote for his historic candidacy, and such. You see, Obama is a new kind of politician!

I knew there had to be a reason ABC continues to run the Bill Clinton, "I am not a Racist" video and text for severals days. It is no longer headline news.

Here we go, countdown to the DNC Convention and the press has on its to do list to start stirring the Hill/Bill vs Barack pot. CNN has been doing it all day.

17 days and counting

JayBoz...Hillary is leaving her name on the ballod to help Obama. He will be declared the nominee and the imense cloud of doom will lift. She knows we need a Dem in the white house. She is a politician and so is Obama. There is no such thing as "Old Politics". It was a phrase put out there by the media. And "change" was a campaign stratagy. Either Dem canadate would be a welcome change in the white house. Hating on someone in your own party is something new. Is that the change we need?

Obama may be ahead in the polls, but there is still a large number of undecided voters. Insulting Clinton supporters is just not productive. The media once again tries to make a mountain out of a mole hill. And anybody that saw Clinton talking about this knows that she was trying to help Obama. And I don't remember hearing all those you know's either.

Any body read newsmax. Obama doesnt keep his promises. Before all the obama supporters get up in arms Us hillary supporters know its not Obama's debit but its common practice for the presumtive nomoniee to take on the debit of the other nomoniees, but even that doesn't mean he has to help, but his promise to help her does mean he should feel obligated.
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Though deep in debt, Hillary quickly fulfilled her promise. But cash-rich Obama has yet to cough up the dough from his backers.

"Hillary has done her part in that regard," a Hillary adviser told Time. "Obama has not."

Then there was the warm and fuzzy call between Bill Clinton and Obama. Obama told Clinton he wanted to sit down with the popular former president, the most successful Democratic president since FDR. But Clinton aides say Obama has never folowed up on the verbal invitation.

Proving that hillary at least tries to keep her word, she helped barack get the money she promised he did basically nothing for her in return, but at last she is paying off her debit without his help she just paid off all schools she owed over a 140,000 dollars.

I am sorry, but can you just imagine if Hillary were the presumed nominee and she was trying to block a roll call?! This is absurd! Quit trying to cushion him talking heads! He is acting in a completely undemocratic, fascist manner. This should concern all of you! If he can't win fairly or by showing respect for all voters, he shouldn't be the nominee - period!
BTW...what is with the kumbaya Mr. JT? I don't get what you are trying to say with that at all.

Yes I am a Clinton supporter and yes I will vote for McCain.

Go McCain!

Hillary 2012!

Obama's scared. Hee He should be.

I agree. Why accept a convention where the candidate that almost tied the presumed nominee cannot participate in a roll call? What does it say about citizens that want a closed convention?

Fools that run this party. Fools.

Obama had better hope that Hillary Clinton rides in to saves the day (and the Party) at the convention because if he gets the nomination,
he will go on to lose the election, and his political fortunes along with it.
He is in way over his head.

If Obama manages to block a roll call vote, it will be suppression of Democracy, and he will take on the ominous appearance of a fascist. There will be a vote or the streets will come alive, rest assured.

This is ridiculous. If it was about an issue, I'd understand. I would have supported Kucinich at the last convention keeping his delegates to push for a real end to the Iraq occupation, but he chickened out. Clinton has no policy differences that would necessitate keeping delegates and fighting out the platform. Therefore, its over.

Democracy! What's democratic about superdelegates or a bunch of activists pushing Obama over the edge?

Hillary is talking some sense here. This supposed new great knight isn't really that great which is why the race was so close.

Take it to the convention Hillary. Obama doesn't "think" that Clinton supporters will disrupt the convention -but b-e-l-i-e-v-e me he's in more trouble than he could EVER imagine.

Hmm beck why blame the clintons? if Obama fails to beat McCain you should look at him and ask where he went wrong. I mean for months the obama supporters have been saying that they don't need the clintons or her supporters so what should it matter if her supporters dont all get on board? You got those independents and repbulicans that voted for barack in the priamaries? that should be enought right? I mean thats all people were saying and still are saying.

As a journalist I am sure you know that it is legal to skip an occasional "you know" or "I mean" when writing down spoken words (unless of course you want the interviewee to appear dumb).

Ash what do you mean why should those voters be heard?? um because its been the norm at conventions to do a roll call why do you want to shut up your fellow democrats?

Hear in lies the problem, people tell Hillary to play by the rules but let Obama slide by on anything. Let their be a freaking roll call like most other conventions. Hillary has dealt with the loss she hasnt dealt with the lack of respect. Obama reaching how,,, by sparing 5 seconds after a long speech saying oh yeah if you think about give Hillary some money. This whole thing is so stupid. If it was so wrong and barack had lawyers fighting seating of Michigan and Florida during the primaries why is it a okay now? He should have listened back then and he could have avoided many in those states from beign upset. I mean it wouldnot have changed the out come of the primaries right????? at least thats what the obama camp and his supporters were saying. Now barack my forgo a normal procedure during the convention, for what? it wont change the outcome that he will be nominated right??????? People keep pushing the blame on the clintons, but you see you fail to realize that no matter how you try to spin it there are people that wanted Hillary to win and sorry no they are not all pumas or repbulicans in disguise like you want to beleive. Her delegates have a right to be heard. This a big chance to think of the Covention as a family meeting gather air out your differences and leave them there, but no they want to go the route of submit or shut up and get out.

Wow, I can't believe how immature and delusional the die hard Hillary supporters and/or the Republicans posing as die hards really are.

If Obama loses due to Hillary and her supporters and then runs in 2012, she will lose. Obama supporters will not forget and they will never vote for her in that scenario.

Go ahead and do a roll call. She is liable to get lets votes than she did during the priamries due to many delegates going over to Obama.

You people are a sad bunch. I feel sorry for you to be honest.

Why? Why should those voters be heard? What's so special about them? If Hillary really wanted to be a hero, she would REALLY make a conscious effort to help Obama (a TEAM MATE, not an opponent) win.

WHY is obama and the DNC questioning this???? - Every other candidate has been on roll call at the Dem convention. Just because Hillary Clinton WON the popular vote and has 18 Million supporters - they are scared -
well they should be! Obama is NOT qualified to lead our country - I will NOT vote for him - and Millions of Americans feel the same way. The DNC picked the Arrogant, Radical FRAUD who will never be elected.

The voice of the voters -who Voted for Clinton should be heard.

James you really are a lib
when something does not agree with you it is a Republican Conspiracy

FYI Ramussen is actually one of the most accurate they were closest in past elections and had the right winnier each time.

Obama is trying to suppress the vote like any good Marxist!!

I wouldn't put too much stock into the Rasmussen Poll. That poll tends to trend republican. Many of its writers on rasmussen are conservative.

"Common Sense" -- if you think the Gallup and Rasmussen polls are "bogus," you are dreaming on another planet.

A Roll Call vote could backfire on Senator Clinton. Most of her ardent political supporters jumped ship to Senator Obama. Her roll call votes can fall short, thus embarrassing herself and her supporters.

kat,

"But McCain and Obama are not in a dead heat. Obama showed a 6 point lead with a CBS poll today. He seems to be maintaining a consistent, modest lead."

Funny thing is, the only polls that show a tie or Obama with less than three point lead are bogus. The media thinks the American public is so stupid that we would believe that when they poll outside Rush Limbaffoon's and Sean Handyman's studios that we'll believe those stats they produce.

I think they are playing themselves. We dems are laughing all the way through the summer on their polling jokes.

Obama 08!

Cultists are usually irrationally devoted to a set of myths that they've accepted and perpetuate as facts. They resist any suggestion that their "facts" may not be "facts" and, when challenged, often resort to name calling, innuendo, personal attacks, or questioning their challenger's motivation.

It's ironic that Senator Obama's supporters are accused of being cultists. What we seem to have is a Clinton Cult so intent on perpetuating its mythology and poking sticks in its "wounds" that it threatens to support someone who is the total antithesis of everything that Senator Clinton is and believes in.

1) If you're going to blame the DNC for some sort of conspiracy, you need to remember that it has been the Clinton's DNC for the past sixteen years. It was the Clinton's DNC that penalized Michigan and Florida. Senator Clinton had a majority on the Rules and By-Laws Committee which settled the mess that they'd made by shutting out Michigan and Florida to begin with.

2) The Democratic Party does not allow a candidate to determine what counts and doesn't count. Senator Clinton did not win the "popular vote." Even if she had, it wouldn't have mattered. The nomination is determined by the delegate count.

3) I have repeatedly seen suggestions that Senator Obama ran a "sexist" campaign. I have yet to hear a single example of Senator Obama's alleged "sexism" toward Senator Clinton.

4) Senator Clinton ran a bad campaign and lost. She played the George W. Bush inevitability game and assumed that the DNC script that had been set up for her would give her the nomination on Super Tuesday. It didn't happen. She didn't have a Plan B until she developed the "kitchen sink" strategy in Ohio and Texas. That did nothing but generate ill will on both sides...a lot of which still lingers in Senator Obama's supporters.

Please come up for some air...consider what's at stake this time. Haven't the last eight years demonstrated the dangers of irrationality and myths rather than dealing with reality and practical consequences?

John McCain will not further any of the ambitious policy goals that Senator Clinton articulated during her campaign. Senator Obama will.

If you are, in fact, offended by sexism, I don't know how can consider supporting someone who calls his wife the "c" word and parades her in front of a bunch of bikers while talking about entering her in a topless beauty contest. The mind faileth.

Is there a communist link?

Cliff Kincaid, of Accuracy in Media, in his article entitled "AP Lies About Obama's Red Mentor," posted Aug 4, 2008, blasts a recent AP story on Frank Marshall Davis being a mentor and "an imporant influence" on Sen. Obama from 1975 to 1979 because the story omitted the fact that Frank Marshall Davis was a member of the Communist Party USA.

Mr. Kincaid writes:

"Davis was not a 'journalist' in any real sense of the term. He was a propagandist and racial agitator for the CPUSA. He was also a recruiter for the communist cause."

Mr. Kincaid also writes:

"Davis was a hard-core but secret CPUSA member with a history of involvement in CPUSA fronts who was so much of a Stalinist that he opposed U.S. participation in World War II during the Hitler-Stalin Pact, but then supported U.S. involvement after Nazi Germany invaded Soviet Russia."

And Mr. Kincaid writes:

"Not surprisingly, AP leaves many major questions unanswered. The wire service notes that Frank Marshall Davis is referred to in Obama’s book Dreams From My Father 'only as Frank.'

"But why? What does Obama have to say about this curious omission? Could it have something to do with the fact that, by the time Obama wrote his book, he knew that Davis was a Communist? And that he deliberately covered this up? Or did he know it earlier?"

Finally, Mr. Kincaid asks:

"Did Davis recruit Obama?"

"Was Obama...ever a secret CPUSA member?"

Now this is a story that the mainstream media should be looking into...but it probably won't.

Being a woman, I have to say I'm pretty embarrassed by these comments. So you are going to choose McCain, a man who allies himself with an oil tycoon who said "if a woman's being raped, she might as well try to enjoy it", a man who wants to make abortion illegal, a man who really doesn't care about what women want (he even voted against equal pay), just to spite Obama?

Does that make sense to anyone? cuz it's not making sense to me. If that is the real RATIONAL reasoning that comes to you all, then I must say that I can no longer fight against American sexism, we women are just idiots.

Hillary is selfish, even if she was held down and made to lose (which she wasn't), she should be the bigger person and walk away with head held high. Now she's asking for controversy. Pathetic....

Susan Powers,

"I did not choose the chosen one"

Well, I did! I'm so glad the DNC heard me and the millions more just like me!

Obama 08!

Senator Obama is not a middle of the road democrat but a far, far left socialist. Fools selected him as the nominee.

Obama is such a wimp - I bet he won't be enjoying his luxurious vacation in Hawaii now! You go, Hillary, don't let your supporters down! I hope she takes back the nomination - Obama has not won the nomination (he is just the presumptuous nominee)! And dl, don't worry about NY - she is their Senator, yesterday, today and tomorrow! I should remind you that SHE won NY - not your guy!

But the odds are that he will still steal the nomination - he owns Reed, Pelosi, Kennedy, Kerry - all the Elites, plus the DNC, so it is in the bag for him! So I hope McCain beats him - he certainly can't be worse than Obama.

Hillary s/b dumped with her supporters. The Clinton machine is out to mess up everyone except themselves.

More votes than Obama? No wonder she lost. It's the delegate count ladies.
If you don't like it, why don't you change it. Otherwise, you all are just ranting for nothing.

Just think if Hillary won, Bill would already reclaim his space.

He lost the State, but won more delegates based on shrewder use of resources in districts that counted more. If Hillary's supporters are so fired up, why don't they use the convention to present a cohesive, better nomination process for the next go-round instead of distracting everyone with this lame argument to be heard. I want to be heard to! Yelling at the top of my lungs when Obama wins.

Posted by: PatriotMan | Aug 7, 2008 7:44:01 PM
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Obama won more delegates in Texax by CHEATING in the caucuses! I don't care how many times people say otherwise. It was witnessed, and reported.

Hillary supporters, who have not and will not support Obama are already on their way to advancing change in the process. If change does not come after this, I will happily give up my membership in the Democratic party.

Hillary's run was more historic than Obama's we have seen many men win primary's one after the other. Hillary was the first woman to win more than one state and her 18 million votes is a big deal if people continue to treat it like it means nothing and if MSM keeps lying then we can assume our elections are fixed and this country is in big trouble. remember the 55 delagates just given to Obama