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I read the comments and those of you who are Liberals are unbelievable. You think McCain pandered to the audience -- like Obama didn't citing a Bible verse -- no he only sat in a church for 20 years listening to a minister who preached hatred of whites, America and Israel along with his friend Flegler. He has never associated with anyone except radicals -- Ayers, Frank Marshall (his mentor who was a member of the Communist party in Hawaii). Maybe instead of taking him at face value, you should really investigate as to who this man is.

..."Too often, the issue of LGBT rights is exploited by those seeking to divide us. But at its core, this issue is about who we are as Americans..." Barack Obama

To Barack: While I could not vote for McCain, I am disgusted with your lack of integrity and support when it comes to the LGBTQ community and marriage. Either you want to give the LGBTQ community complete respect or none at all. A little respect is not good enough. Complete dignity and respect is showing support for our equality which obviously includes marriage. Sure, the issue of gay marriage is the 'third rail', but then don't say you're about "change" because in the end, when you can look the LGBTQ community in the eye, in front of evangelicals, and say boldly and proudly that you do not believe in gay marriage, you have rendered me invisible. You don't see me, then I won't see you. You're no better than the rest of the politicians.
At some point "change I can believe in" has got to include the rights of adult individuals to marry whether gay or straight.
Not that long ago, the marraige between white and black people was illegal too. You wouldn't exist if the people had not stood up to an inhumane law that had to eventually have the support of government.
Politicians are politicans. They say what they must to get elected. However, you claim to be different. Question: Why do you not believe in gay marriage? Why can't you say you personally support it? Is it because, deep down, the union of gay people wedded in holy matrimony repulses you? Could you actually befriend a gay married couple and not respect their choice? How is it that you can meet upstsanding, loving and accomplished gay people and not believe that two consenting, non-related adults have the right to marry? Are we less than human to you? Since we don't choose our gender, how could you not support a natural outgrowth of two consenting adults who want to pledge their lives to one another, gay or straight? What difference is there to you, really?
Because of your popularlity, your lack of respect sets us back.
Too many of us are silent right now because we're so often beat down but we need to fight you.
No complete recognition to LGBTQ, no vote from me or my friends.

If Baracko makes you feel safe and confident about the future, you must have missed this forum! He stutters like a child and dances around every question to make it warm and fuzzy. Very scary, America!!

One last question; What does it tell you if someone admits he doesn’t know when life begins, BUT can tell everyone it can be terminated when you want it to be. That’s blunt… it looks like someone cares more about an issue than life itself.

Destroy an unborn human and its okay, step on an eagle’s egg and you get fined. What are we thinking?

Obama cannot string four words together without his teleprompter!!Talk about stammering, stuttering, and doubletalk..Jeez!

I never thought I would say this....BUT...
For once Jesse Jackson said ALL THE RIGHT THINGS!!!

Irony is obama supporters complaining about McCain sounding prepared and scripted.

Barry

You say you wonder if Evangelicals practice what they preach. How about it if you move away from your sheltered starbucks life and spend some time in a church. You will find that most live the life they talk. The work hard to ensure they are not living a dead faith. Meaning, that if you have faith, but do not do gods work, then your faith without works is dead.

I am relieved that there are people out there who are very observant. This was not an impartial forum because it was so clear that McCain was privy to the questions ahead of time. That is the reason he was grinning like a Cheshire cat and answering questions before they were asked. My opinion is that Rick Warren was complicit in the entire fiasco. This makes it crystal clear that evangelicals are not interested in fair play. If this had happened on Obama-supported turf and the tables were turned on McCain, it would have been equally unfair. Of course this behavior makes the USA highly favored among nations of the world. So the casting of other nations, e.g. Russia, in bad light needs to cease until the American government cleans up the filth in its backyard. Elect McCain and you will deserve every modicum of suffering that he and his cronies, including the Supreme Court Justices, will heap upon you. Of course, off-shore drilling will immediately reduce gas and food prices ---tee hee, tee hee....Stop being so naive.

I was sitting front row at the Saddleback hosted event

I am a current member of Saddleback.

I sat in the front row at the forum and it was a experience I will cherish for the rest of my life.

I live within 1/4 mile of Saddleback.

All I can say is that, I have been blessed enough to have visited over 14 countries around the world. The memory I retain from the past weekend is something I will cherish for a lifetime.

And I was one of two people who was able to shake the hand of Obama. Yeah... McCain ignored me.

After listening on the radio, I am very Very impressd with who John McCain IS and who B.Obama IS'NT. B.Obama IS NOT Presidential material, plain & simple. McCain's straightforward honest answers is what connected with me. I think he won the election tonight, he found his voice...

I thought it was mediated fairly although I don't agree with the views of many Evangenitals.

I think too many Evangelicals miss the boat when it comes to dealing with abortion. I think it's sad that hearing a candidate say he wants to work to reduce the number of abortions doesn't generate a more enthusiastic response.

Do ordinary Evangelicals understand the limited effect if Roe v. Wade were to be overturned? If Roe was reversed, that would not make abortion illegal, it would simply revert abortion back to the states. My total guess is that only about a third of the states would actually significantly outlaw abortion. In that case, women seeking abortions could just drive across state lines to a state where abortion was legal. I predict we would see abortion clinics built right along the borders of anti-abortion states.

All this energy is being spent on the political and legal arena, for an outcome that would change very little. Evangelicals should change their focus to transforming the hearts and minds of Americans to convince them that human life is sacred and abortion is wrong. (BTW, the sanctity of human life is a slightly separate question from whether human life begins at conception. I think the latter is a more problematic argument that doesn't need to be made to convince people that abortion is wrong.)

Shouldn't reducing the actual number of abortions be the goal? Not just some empty poltical/legal victory?

im a true conservative and in no way was going to vote for McCain. i was going to sit this one out...but after last night, John doesn't seem as bad as i once had thought.
I can't believe the Messiah(barry) danced around the questions like he danced on the Ellen Degeneres show. I am voting for Mccain.... Obama is not ready to lead. he is great reading off a teleprompter or reciting a speech that someone else wrote, but he is not a non action guy...I am so glad hillary isn't running..she was definatly the more qualified of the democratic candidates...The only difference between oBama and oSama..is the BS!

So did Reverend Warren even wonder WHY McCain was thirty minutes late? Did he even wonder IF someone fed him some of the questions as he strolled into the "cone of silence"?

Typical...McCain does not get challenged about his behavior and Obama is scrutinized because he takes the time to actually ponder and reflect on a question instead of shooting back a prepared and facile answer.

This country is hostile to thinkers and friendly to slogan talkers.

Barry blew it big time.

I aplaud both of these gentleman for their courage in seeking this office in difficult days. I respect both of them and I acknowledge that I am not God and I don't know which will be the best president. But, please realize that these postings are saying a lot about our hearts and our true beliefs. Neither gentleman is anywhere near perfect. I will vote my conscience and try not to cast stones.

I just heard that McCain was never in the "cone of silence" referred to by Pastor Warren. When asked by Rick if he was comfortable in that "cone of silence," McCain joked that he was in an adjacent room "listening through the wall"--when apparently he was not and could have heard all the questions in advance. It was clear to those of us watching impartially that he knew much of the early script in advance. Some of his answers were too pat to be spontaneous responses to tough questions--about moral failings, Supreme Court appointees, etc. Plain and simple, McCain lied to Warren's first question and probably had a huge unfair advantage. I assume that Pastor Warren was not complicit in this and that he will disavow any link to McCain, and throw his support to the honest candidate--Barack Obama. What is Warren's response to all this? Jack

I am a Democrat, but after tonight, hearing BHO and JMcCain, I definitely would vote for McCain, he is almost twice as old as BHO and has twice the smarts and does not hesitate to answer. His experience was in full swing tonight. Go, John, Go Hope from Pa.

"I thought it quite interesting the way Obama avoided the question of when an unborn child has rights... Come on, Barak, have the GUTS tpo say what you think."
What about the people who have the guts to take a provisional position when there is not enough evidence. That's the problem with fundamentalism: it is too uncomfortable with mystery and must have an absolute position on everything, no matter how irrational. But even the bible does not prescribe personhood to a fetus until it gets the "breath of life" at birth. Infants are not even counted in censuses either, and the only verse that mentions the death of a fetus requires only a fine, unless the mother is killed. The superimposition of personhood onto blastulas and zygotes and cells in petri dishes is not in any bible verse I've ever seen and so Obama does have wiggle room there- sorry. He also brings up the elephant in the room considering Christian's inharmonious acceptance of IVF and complacency over loss of fertalized eggs, yet aggression over stem cells. Think about it people. Oh, last, fans of Warren's best seller need to see it get DEMOLISHED by Robert Price's "The Reason Driven Life."

John McCain came across as the more seasoned, experienced, and decisive of the two candidates. When it comes to leadership and solving the numerous problems facing this country, John McCain stood head and shoulders above Obama.

Separation of Church and State. Rick Warren and his congregations do not represent the moral majority of America.

I resent the fact that the candidates have to pander to evangelicals.
I wonder if any of the evangelicals pratice what they preach.

I was for neither canidate but how can
anyone feel Obama won. I am amazed at what people are looking for to run this country. I am well aware that some will vote for Obama no matter what. All I know is that Obama is not ready or has the experience to be President of the United States.

For me there is but one choice... John
McCain. If that offends you then you need to take a deep breath and wait just a minute... "It's my country too!" Thats why we have a two party system. And even though one prevails over the other, we remain Americans. But from some of the hate, rhetoric and intolerance that I continue to hear and read about, I get the impression that we may at some point in time be headed for another civil war in America!

BTW, most Republicans are just using this issue to pander for votes. They don't actually want Roe v. Wade overturned. If so, they would lose it as a wedge issue.

Yes there are some social conservatives in the Republican party that would like Roe overturned, but two thirds of the Reagan coalition are economic conservatives and military hawks, who have tended to treat social conservatives like the poor step child.

I thought it quite interesting the way Obama avoided the question of when an unborn child has rights. This abortion issue is a MAJOR concern for all Americans. If he (Obama) can't make up his mind on this issue because it's "above my pay scale", why should I believe he will know what to do when that 3AM phone call comes in?? Come on, Barak, have the GUTS tpo say what you think. Once again, he voted "present."

I was for Obama before the Saddleback "debate".... McCain will be a stronger president under fire... For that is their main job. We elect legislators for making law, we elect a president to protect us and look after our National interest. McCain is better suited for that job.
After last night, I know now that...

Gary Brown: "God help us! ..Obama says ...yet on his website he says... Then you say that"

Gary, you are taking this as if Obama were a sincere person with well-thought out positions.

Here's the truth. He is a Harvard trained lawyer, with a belief system established by Harvard and then modified by Reverend Wright and Chicago ward politics.

Nothing he says has anything to do with anything other than getting elected.

By saying multiple things that are directly opposed to each other, he intends to be able to represent himself as all things to all people. If you had the opportunity to talk to him about your topic, you would come away thinking he agrees with you 100%.

All politicians do this to a certain extent. But Obama is an extreme case, hardened by the experiences I stated above.

But your opening about "God help us" is exactly on-point.

If McCain gave his stump speech, Obama quoted from his books as usual. The problem is Obama thinks the same literary license extends to the real world.

I particularly liked when Obama said his toughest moral decision was when he voted against the war. Excuse me? In what parallel universe was he not a state senator with no say in the matter?

Boring, laughable and irrelevant. Loser.

"Obama answered his questions just like a good Socialist "

It's a good point, but I'm beginning to wonder if he isn't more about big-government, base appeasement and personal aggrandizement.

Some of the 30 or so policy shifts he has made this month must be difficult to justify with his Socialist backers, and will make governing as a Socialist much more difficult. Of course, maybe he just figures he has to do it to get elected.

God help us! When you have someone of Obama's talent selling, we're in trouble. Obama says he's against late term abortions yet on his website he says he will sign the "Freedom of Choice Act" which literally does away with ALL restrictions on abortion and he fought HARD against a law in Illinois that gave NEWBORN survivors of abortion the right to live! But Jesus Christ - Jesus Christ is your Lord? (Lord means "boss" or "master"). Then you say that "marriage is the sacred union of one man and one woman" but again, on your website you say you want to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) which defines marriage as the union of one man and one woman! And you've told gay activists that you support same-sex marriage! But, of course, Jesus Christ is your Lord and we know this because you said so, right? WHAT ABOUT ACTIONS? Anyone who calls themself a Christian and votes for Obama is truly deceived.

Obama answered his questions just like a good Socialist …or some say Marist. Like his mama and wife taught him. Study your history people!

Posted by: notafool | Aug 17, 2008 1:29:35 PM
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And Obama doesn't get paid enough to make hard decisions.........lol. At least what McCain said was said as a joke, Nobama was serious. That's pathetic.

It's funny that the Bots set the bar so low when they know the golden boy lost. They only expect a 5% gain in the evangelical vote......lol.
He did not gain anything last night and my opinion is that he lost quite a bit. Even though he admitted to having the questions in advance ("I cheated and looked that one up") he can not give clear concise answers and only speaks well with a written speech and a teleprompter.
Compare that to McCain who speaks very well when it is from the heart, but poorly when it's a speech written by someone else.
As for Puma's, if you check out the blogs, we were very impressed with McCain and as usual, disgusted with nobama.

McCain has an advantage in extemporaneous formats. He doesn't have to disguise his positions with verbal gymnastics to try to disguise his well-documented socialist/moral-relativist views.

McCain gave his standard stump speech which Rick Warren never called him on.

On the other hand Warren told Obama not to give him stump speech answers. Nope, no bias there.

And by the way why didn't this article point out that McCain's answer to what he considers wealth is $5 million dollars. I guess if you wear $500 shoes and own a half dozen homes whats a$5 million.

I was highly disappointed by Pastor Rick Warren's comments that made it "appear" that both candidates were going to be provided surprise questions, when the pastor related that John McCain was being kept in a sound proof
room/booth, so that he would not hear
the question and answer session of Obama. I can tell you that Obama was too quick with the answers, which leads me to believe he was provided these questions before the program, so that his staff could prepare the answers for him that he would memorize, just like he did during the debates in my opinion.

Did anyone ever see Obama without his teleprompter answer an unplanned question? He is terrible at it, which is why he is too "chicken" to debate John McCain in a Town Hall debate, where the questions are free form from the audience. What is preposterous is that Obama agreed to the series of debates in Town Hall settings proposed by John McCain and then he backs out of it!!!! Obama is also afraid of the Lincoln/Douglas style of debates too that John would like instituted.

Look at Obama who says on the Saddleback Church stage that we must guard against Late Term Abortions, but his record in the Illinois Senate says differently!!! This man was all for Late Term Abortions up until the 9th month. DONT MISS the Sean Hannity show on FOX NEWS TONIGHT where Sean will have a nurse on his show, who testified on an Ill. Senate Committee hearing about babies born alive after botched abortions, where Obama refused to vote to provide medical care to such born infants!!! Isn't this extreme??????? How hypocritcal Obama was on the stage of this church saying that we should guard against late term abortions!!

I have not been a John McCain enthusiast but last night at the Saddleback forum, I came away with the sense that everyone will know where he stands! For those who think he did "talking points" on his beliefs - maybe they are his beliefs - so you state the obvious. Obama was shallow although I did learn a lot from him - and he has neither the depth of convictions or life experiences to preside over this country in these times. He would be rolled in a heartbeat by tough opponents from other countries.

"LOL! That sounds like a description of John Adams."

Do you actually think George W. Bush compares favorably to John Adams? Did Adams, like Bush, suffer from inability to make fine distinctions?

"Let's change 'black and white' to 'right and wrong'."

Not when it means "oppressor and oppressed". Not when it means "those who agree with me, and those with whom I am trigger-happy to wage war".

if going to Iraq was about envangelism i will be glad but if christians will use lie to achieve the will of god for god it is a SIN.It is unfortunate how peace could have achieve more than this war,all the so called new christians in Iraq will be like the seed planted on the road side in Mark 4,it will not survive bcos whatever is built on wrong foundation will not suceed

For all you people out there who keep saying how awful the last two terms have been, and how this war in Iraq is dumb, and how we can't have anybody who's like Bush... I just want to point out a few things

- For those of you who are Christians like me, since the US entered Iraq, the number of Iraqi Christians has gone from 5,000 to 100,000!! That is amazing, and as far as I can see the greatest success story in Iraq (and against radical Islam). In addition, finishing this war and leaving a non-extremist government in Iraq when we pull out is SO important for this area. I live in the middle east and I know.

- The last two presidential terms have been fraught with very tough situations: 9/11, Katrina, etc., and I think many people who are saying "we need something different" are acting as if Bush caused all these problems. He may not have made the best choices in every circumstance, but no president could have dealt with all these circumstances without making some mistakes.

- Finally, about this coming election: some of the worst choices people make are those they make based on emotional feelings from the past(anger, hurt, etc.) If we base our choice in this election on who's "like Bush" and who's "not like Bush", we won't evaluate the candidates from the right perspective - who they themselves are. Voting for a candidate because I think he's different than Bush or the same as Bush means basically that I'm allowing my feelings on Bush to control my vote for this election, and means that I'm not comparing the candidates to each other based on themselves, but on an imbalanced thought process based on emotion.

Let go of the past and choose the right person for the job.

I found it interesting that taking federal money but not applying federal guidelines in the form of hiring came up. If I am a Christian, don't i already reach out to all the community? Won't my congregation be reflective of the community at large? Did I sense some hypocracy with that question? Love thy neighbor, only if I can choose who my neighbor is?
Maybe faith-based is a different distiction from Christian.
Separately, the Bush administration has not mentioned al-queda in several years, invaded a sovereign nation that did not attack the US, and has finally admitted that it lied to the American people and Congress to do so. We are in a war that should never have been entered and we are preaching to Russia. Shame on the GOP and all its supporters. Get out of Iraq. Then you can tell others to get out. Until then, please let you actions speak for you.

McCain seemed more like a comedian - entertaining the audience with his usual, well rehearsed "drill". No evidence of thinking ability, no clear analysis of issues. just the same ol short, knee jerk responses. Obama was very thoughtful, explorative and more analytical. He spoke out of conviction -knowing full well some of his ideas will not be well received. He did not pander, did not deceive, did not lie. You dont want a president who is an entertainer, a panderer or someone who makes important decisions without thinking things through!!! I liked Obama. He was very good.

McCain gave honest answers and spoke with conviction using his life experiences as reference points. Obama, on the other hand, seemed UMMMM-AHHHH-EHHHH-DUHHHHHH at a loss for words, out of his league, and in sore need of his speech writer and teleprompter so the MSM can continue its 1984-style indoctrination about what a stirring communicator Obama is.

Who pays the people that come on this site and back Obama after his terrible,
sorely-lacking performance? He was thoughtful??? Please, give us a break, Obama is Bush Jr II; he is circling within his mind fog. Obama really doesn't have a clue and that is very, very scarey.

President John McCain; sounds good.....
Make it happen, America!

Obama won the night hands down. McCain pandered to his based and likely lost the independent vote with the Supreme Court Justices answer. I can't wait for the debates. Obama has this in the bag.

Obama lost, McCain won - period. Obama kept stuttering, i.e., I, I, I,, I, think, think, think uh. Makes him appear indecisive and making things up as he goes along - no true core beliefs. Another thing is that I'll never vote for Obama (not for just this one thing but the horribleness of his actions) because when he was in Chicago legislature, he voted three times to withhold medical care for babies who survive abortions! It is the absolute coldest, evil act I could think of anyone doing. Letting a baby starve to death in spite of having survived an abortion!! There's cruelty and just plain meaness in that thinking.

The job they are applying for doesn't call for a "thoughtful, intropspective, nuanced, morally relative, ambiguous" candidate. This country needs a strong decisive leader with clear core principles and beliefs, and after last night, these characteristics are clearly lacking in Obama.

McAin was ON FIRE!! WOW...This guy is great!

"- sees things in black and white
- "doesn't do nuance"

LOL! That sounds like a description of John Adams. If you watched the HBO series, you know what I mean. John Adams didn't mince words, nor did he have time for the "diplomacy" of Europe, particularly the French.

Let's change "black and white" to "right and wrong".

I've watched a lot of the saddleback conference now, and my impression was that for Obama it was a chance to talk about his faith and how it affects his thinking, and for McCAin it was a political event. I thought that especially about the Justices question. Obama took offence to one or two more 'right wing' justices, McCain picked out every 'liberal' judge. Obama made clear that his opinion on Clarence Thomas was not only based on Thomas's views but that he wasn't upto the job, and he even said one or two things positive about Chief Justice Roberts. I thought he gave a balanced and fair answer. McCain then railed against an 'activist' court making 'laws from the bench'. By the way wouldn't overturning Roe vs Wade being legislating from the bench in a way? Would Senator McCain say that 1954 Brown vs School board of Topeka judgement was 'legislating from the bench'? Or how about the 2000 'Bush v Gore' Judgement? He then said in a very partisan way that he would not have nominated any of the more liberal judges.

I felt Obama participated more in the spirit of the event, and discussed his faith and how it shapes him more openly and honestly than McCain, even when it put him out of step with the congregation.

I think people mistake Obama thinking for Obama not being able to speak fluently without a teleprompter. I thought he was thoughtful and intelligent. McCAin was just repeating many of his preaaranged talking points without much thought. It did make him in this forum a passionate and eloquent soeaker, but I didn't get the feeling I learnt much more about him as a person. I felt I got to know Obama a little more. It will be interesting to see them debate side by side on some of these issues.

Interesting comments about the draft. McCain has said nothing about bringing it back.

Barack Hussein, however, has talked about having a "civilian security force", funded as well or better than the military. Why isn't someone asking him to explain that? What would a civilian security force do, exactly, Senator? Would it be an armed force? We already have local and state police forces, the FBI, Homeland Security, the ATF, the National Guard, and neighborhood watches. Did I miss anything?

The Soviet Union had the KGB, now the SVR, and current Russia has the FSB. Is that what you had in mind, Senator?

McCain's answers showed that his mindset is a continuation of that of George W. Bush. Clearly, he:
- sees things in black and white
- "doesn't do nuance"
- favors anecdotal data over statistical analysis in forming his opinions
- fails to realize that decisions are for "what to do" rather than "what is true"
- is decisive about what is true and false regardless of facts and evidence

Hey Debra McCain was in true form tonight,He's the panderer..I Hope that you don't have any kids eligible for the draft, because with McCain we will see a war that will make WW2 look like a paintball exercise. Try and get some updated news on the conflict in Georgia and not what FOX is feeding you. Try reading some foreign press accounts of what McCain's buddy Misha did to Provoke Russia. I voted for Reagan and Bush I and Bush II. I will never ever ever vote Republican again.

What does it mean when McCain says that he " will follow Bin Laden to the gates of Hell to get him ?
If Osama Bin Laden is already at the gates of Hell, shouldn't we just let him enter? McCain came into this forum with the Evangelicals with a 75-25 advantage. If Obama comes out of this with a 70-30, He did well. I really felt that John McCain was appearing at the Tonight Show..... all talk, no substance. He really dismissed the cruelty to his first wife with the key words " failed marriage " Is it just me or does McCain look like he practices in front of a mirror. I felt like I was hearing a McCain's favorite hits of War Stories.

If there was any pandering going on it was Obama. How else could he (an abortionist) convince a Christian audience that he's a Christian too?

Truly children are a gift from the Lord;
the fruit of the womb is a reward" (Psalm 127:3)

Friend Ron - we are already AT WAR...the enemy is called "Al-Qaeda" (there are several spellings, but believe me, they ARE THE ENEMY!) And please don't call me an idiot!

Quick draw McCain is the one to take the 3 AM call because he will be so droggy that he is sure to press the button.

Obama stuttered, stammered and equivocated, afraid to answer any question in a straightforward manner. When asked about the existence of evil, he forgot to mention Al Qaeda! The guy is not ready for prime time...

Regarding a couple of other races.
Congraulations to Michael Phelps on the 8 gold medals, and 7 world records, and "Lightening" Bolt out of Jamaica on his gold medal winning world record breaking 100 meter dash.
9.69 seconds!

Interesting the reviews so far have this as a win for McCain but 4 out of 6 headlines on these blogs are about Obama. So typical. I could never vote Obama (although I'm with him on pro choice). In fact it was his only answer I got....his manner of speaking is really hard to follow with all the um, ah, ug's. Why does he look down all the time too? Who says he's such a good communicator...scripted speech doesn't count? Gergen says Obama has to lift his game...they all say he has to quit dancing around the specifics, cut to the chase. He seriously loses me and millions of others I'm sure. Maybe he'll pick a VP who has better debate skills. I MISS HILLARY.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!!!!

McCain was the robot who gave stock answers to everything. I did not learn anything new from him except that he would start a War in a New York Minute. He also was saying everything the audience wanted to hear. What you idiot Republicans don't understand is that this was a win win situation for Obama. The Religious right votes 75-25 for McCain so if Obama is able to make it 70-30, He has succeeded.

Good questions by Warren.
Both men did well.

However, McCain slipped in the race card at the end. Don't know if McCain always put his country first at Annapolis. He was a real partier and graduated 5th from the bottom. McCain
has a good sense of humor. He summed up walking out on his wife and children for another woman, as the failure of my first marriage.

Obama gave honest answers to questions, even though he knew they might not always please the audience.
He also gave reasons for his answers, which sometimes makes his answers wordy.

Fair and balanced article by Tapper

Good commetary by most of the respondents, except a for a few haters.

Personally I thought that McCain was pandering to the audience....Like an old drunk Uncle, he was set in telling War stories. If you want a WAR and the draft to be reinstated... My Friends... Vote McCain.

The main things that decide it for me are #1 Obama's economic policies are basically a repeat of what's been tried before by Carter. We all know where that got us.
#2 If we don't get over our political correctness guilt that is constantly being shoved on us by environmentalists and re-inforced by the media and hollywood and start drilling for our oil we will continue down the decline.

When did Obama's life start? Why is it those who bully and murder the most innocent of stage of life can't stand war while allowing genocide? Iraq is a good example --- Obama the abortionist would have done nothing to stop the butcher of baghdad from committing genocide. Moral/values do matter. Say what you want about Bush. If Obama had been pres and slap us with higher taxes during our current problems (housing woes, high fuel, food prices, and so forth) we would be in a full blown depression. BTW Did some one mention Separation of Church & State? All 50 State Constitutions honor/acknowledge God but I'm sure the ACLU blame America Liberals are smarter than little ole me or perhaps their better at spreading falsehoods! To them morals/values don't matter!

Dear Fellow Americans - after a good night of sleep, please watch the re-runs tomorrow - with the sound OFF...notice the body language and eye movements of each candidate. Pretend you are a world leader and you have to wait for a translator to understand what has been said. Which guy seems to be in control of the situation? That is the guy you should vote for because he will be the leader of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! Sleep well my friends!

Ann White: Please stop drinking the Kool Aid or you will overdose. First of all he is still and will always be Senator Obama, calling him President just like his rip off of the Presidential seal will never make him President in a million years. Pleas refer to him as Senator until he becomes something else.Thank You.

McCain = Bush on steroids, that's the reality behind all his double talk.

Nicky

Obama has more lobbyists working for him than Mccain and its true that Obama has millions of small donations but the major unending source of money comes from millionaire bundlers....thats not true individual support thats corporate sponsorship which is no good!

James

those of us beyond draft age dont really care that you make Obama your candidate because he is the one who wont institute the draft...think again, Obama will keep the troops in Iraq as long as mccain will and will so he wont be any different than mccain on the military..guess its time for you to go to canada!

Mr Coffee,Carol

Talk about frightening... Obama gave Michelle as one of the people that he counted on and would be part of his admimistration... though thats a given since shes his wife... she is the reason Obama doesnt have landslide support among democrats,Independants,repubs..the democrats have trief to get intellectual heavyweights into the office of president for years but unfortunately you also have to have real gravitas.. the only one to successfully do that is Pres Bill Clinton and you mock him...when someone isnt ready to be president they arent ready and Obama conseded that point tonight!

A Christian must demonstrate his faith in his everyday life. Jesus lashed out at the Pharisees for pretending to be religious while acting in ways that showed no faith and a lack of compassion for others. One man in this presidential race has consistently showed by his life that he follows the precepts of Jesus, in his marriage, in his strong profession that Jesus died for his sins, in his knowledge and use of scripture in his everyday life, in the tenor of his campaign,in his compassionate programs that leave no one behind. That man is Barack Obama.
John McCain says what he wants us to hear. I have no doubt that he prayed at his darkest hour, as many pray when they have no other hope. But I do not see a prayerful or God directed stance in most of John McCain's actions and decisions in his everyday life. Many of his personal decisions have been blatantly selfish, he is confrontational and petty and has a nasty sense of humor, and his current decisions to smear his opponent at every turn shows an un-Christian mean streak. Be careful Christians, look at deeds and the honest heart, not just words and slapstick humor(my friends).

What I know for sure is that this country cannot afford a McCain administration. Wesley Clark was right to say that McCain's POW status does not qualify him to lead this country. People need to understand that because it's a fact. Just take a close look at his campaign, mismanagement, lobbyist galore, manipulation, corruption, you name it. There's nothing honorable about that. That's not the type of leadership this country needs.