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Hillary in Elevator Mishap*

August 28, 2008 12:44 AM

DENVER, Colo. -- Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., was already not having the Democratic National Convention that she'd been hoping for, her and her husband's well-received speeches notwithstanding.

Then it got worse.

After Wednesday night's festivities ended, there was a minor elevator mishap at the Pepsi Center that involved Clinton, sources tell ABC News.

Apparently, the elevator got stuck between floors, stranding Clinton and others for several minutes. For about five minutes inside the elevator, it was "hectic" and not a little claustrophobic -- the elevator was overpacked, which is why it stopped, a source says. The doors needed to be pushed open, and some of those in the elevator -- a couple of Secret Service agents -- needed to be lifted and squeezed out in order for it to start moving again.

Clinton was seen leaving the scene looking a tad shellshocked, but an aide said, "She's fine."

- jpt

* This post has been updated. Originally, per a witness report, it reported that Clinton, herself, had to be squeezed out of the elevator between floors, but a Clinton spokesperson says that isn't true.

August 28, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (175)

User Comments

It seems instead of non important stories as this that you could investigate Obama past associations and personal data. Why won't the media do this. You would be consider a hero to bring out all of this before the election. As a 40 year Democrat who after our primary changed to Independent I cannot vote for Obama - because he is not experienced for the job of putting America back on track after 8 years of Bush.

Posted by: Lynne | Aug 29, 2008 8:33:21 AM

Hillary and Bill you were wondiful,you never change my mine..I will not vote for Obama,no way..the dem party has made me sick they are a disgrace to american..I thank Obama and his v.p. are two empity suits full of hot air..MCcain 08 is the right man,we need someone who will put all these bums to work and stop them from living off the working people

Posted by: sue | Aug 29, 2008 7:50:10 AM

"I applaud both Hillary and Bill on their for differences with Obama behind them. This just shows the class act both of them have always have been."

The Clinton's a class act? What fantasy are you living in? Two of the most morally corrupt people on the earth today.

Posted by: Tim | Aug 29, 2008 2:59:54 AM

"There is nothing to fear but fear itself", unless of course you get stuck in the elevator with Madame Rodham.

Posted by: Stump69 | Aug 29, 2008 12:20:20 AM

With blogs, how would we hear about important news like this? I bet the New York Times isn't even going to cover this important story!

Posted by: fletc3her | Aug 28, 2008 9:40:27 PM

Obama will win in a landslide. McSame will be Dole 2.0

Posted by: Rox | Aug 28, 2008 8:31:45 PM

Not only was Clinton stuck in the elevator, I read that Jesse Jackson Jr. was stuck the other day as well. It seems as though Denver, is having problems with this convention. They had a reporter arrested for taking pictures, running out of food and giving the delegates Hot Dogs, now the elevator problem. The "Mile High" city does not seem to have solutions to many of these problems.

Posted by: anotherperspective1 | Aug 28, 2008 8:21:25 PM

I don't think I have read/heard a single story about Hillary Clinton having a bad time at the convention. But who am I to say? Rightwing bloggers are sooo reliable when it comes down to "reporting". (cough cough). They are ripe with jealousy. May I sign off with a childish little "neener neener"? That felt goooood ;-)

Posted by: Ginger | Aug 28, 2008 8:02:08 PM

And I find it odd that a huge number of Republican leaders are not going to be attending their own convention next week. Why is that? Can you figure that out? Hmm. You wonder about Feinstein -- who broke her foot -- but I think the red party has finally stolen its last election here. Yes, I do indeed.

Posted by: Elizabeth | Aug 28, 2008 7:02:29 PM

Some of you anti-Obama bloggers sound like a bunch of outdated old coots shooing the kids off the lawn. Not only can most of you not spell worth beans, but you're also clearly afraid, which is why you respond to well to the fear that McCain and his party is trying to sell us. You're afraid to take responsibility for the trainwreck of a mess that YOUR administration is leaving us with. You're afraid of change. Well, guess what? You're not selling my generation anything. We're ready for change and we're going to make it happen because it's our time. So get on the bus or get left behind. I swear - some people have to be dragged into the 21st century.

Posted by: Elizabeth | Aug 28, 2008 7:00:07 PM

Sad to see so much ignorance of the facts being displayed here. Educate yourselves before voting to avoid the same type of emotional, nonreasoned, extremist candidate as we've had for the past 7+ years.

Posted by: Graz | Aug 28, 2008 6:45:27 PM

I think you all got off the subject of the article. Everyone went off into multiple tangants okay. Yes I McCain Supporter but lets just talk about the article not about whose Canidate is better then the other guys okay. Yes getting stuck in an elvator cant actually be dangous when it is over packed.

Posted by: david | Aug 28, 2008 6:10:04 PM

The worst president in history was in the 19th century -- James Buchanan, who comes closer than any one person for being responsible for the Civil War. Ironically, he was also the most experienced.

Posted by: Jack | Aug 28, 2008 6:05:24 PM

Even elevators did not spare her lies

Posted by: joe | Aug 28, 2008 5:36:59 PM

oh brother - per robert's comments. Don't you realize that alternative energy is not going to solve the oil problem. Oil is used in to many items. We need to drill. If you want to make an impact lets ban all makeup (i.e. mascara is made from product of oil) utilized by women as a start and see how long it will be before they demand that we drill.

Educate yourself democrats!!!

Posted by: carlos | Aug 28, 2008 5:18:51 PM

Hey Hans Meiser---you want to call John McCain an adulterous person...whaaat? Do you remember the "Blue Dress" and the cigars? What a shortsided loser you are.

Dan---you say that President Bush is the worst president in history---so you think President Bush is worse than Jimmy Carter? Open your eyes and see the light! Please!

Posted by: Jeff N OK | Aug 28, 2008 5:02:51 PM

Why is it that people who keep praising Clinton for a balanced budge keep forgetting it was with a Republican Congress. Yes the budget sucks not and we have a Democrat congress. Everybody complains but doesn't realize that the Democrats are in power and causing the problems.

Ignorance is bliss. Like J - "McCain too old, too rich & too niave. Obama is young, ambitious & actually cares about the American people. He's not full of promises..but actually going to get things done. That's the difference."

Obama is rich also. Was this a problem when Kerry was running? And everyone says he is going to get things done but no one know what those are....

The Obama campaign pushed back hard against the televised comment on Monday night by James Carville, architect of Mr. Clinton’s 1992 campaign and its mantra, “It’s the economy, stupid”. Mr. Carville said on CNN, “If this party has a message, it’s done a hell of a job of hiding it tonight, I promise you that.”

Posted by: Carlos | Aug 28, 2008 5:01:55 PM

joan...

first of all... NOBODY was doing ANYTHING for our vets at Walter Reed until Obama stepped in. It was all TALK.. and that includes Mc Cain.

but before then, before he even got to his desk on his first day in the senate... he was putting together the most important ethics bill to ever be written and passed in the senate.

and there is more...

but when you consider that was from a freshman senator... who is the jr senator from his home state...

that was already A LOT.

of course when you look at Mc Cain... just try to rattle off the things he has done FOR vets. its not going to be easy.

Posted by: drzoon | Aug 28, 2008 4:52:58 PM

If Obama is elected in November he will go down in history as the first Anti-American ever elected as President. He's the most liberal of liberal Senators and our founding fathers would vomit if they knew this country would actually vote for someone like him. Obama supports stand for nothing therefore they are falling for anything, a pep rally if you will, led by Oprah. Can you image someone like Obama calling the shots for the US Military? He's going to change the red in our flag to pink!

Posted by: Jay | Aug 28, 2008 4:47:00 PM

Getting a really good look at M. Obama, I must agree with the other poster: She is militant-looking. Extremely scary, angry and evil.

Posted by: Lisa Again | Aug 28, 2008 4:27:17 PM

When you are outside the US, you can never believe how much many Americans are still three centuries behind and do not understand that the world is evolving and things are changing. Open your eyes, people, time has changed. You want to be too conservative and you believe that you are always the best. You do not see the important things, and you are stuck on the details while leaving aside what really is good for your life. It is shameful when people say, "I am not going to vote for Obama because I do not like the man" Hoo, hoo, give me a break! Is it a love of a man that we are talking about here or how the country can go better and catch up with countries like China, Japan, etc, which are running away from the US now? What can your love for Obama do to the poor woman who does not have a health insurance? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. If you want to remain at the same place and not budge because of small things, or if you do not want to open your eyes and recognize that we are in the 21st century and not at the time of slavery, it is your own problem because I am not going to wait for you to you wake up from your lethargy or your semi sleep. May those who see the world as it is today VOTE OBAMA.

Posted by: Angelina | Aug 28, 2008 3:59:54 PM

Those "women for mccain" who wanted to see Hillary at the top would rather give away women's rights, keep women's pay lower and have a cheater and a homewrecker in the white house than to get over themselves.
I say go, cut off your nose to spite your face. Just don't ever come crying about McCains lack of interest in what is important for women: he evidently has no respect for them.

Posted by: Hans Meiser | Aug 28, 2008 3:54:26 PM

Even though BHO never had a chance to vote whether to send troups to Iraq initially - he says that he voted against sending troups..yada yada yada. Either BHO is smarter than our entire Senate, or he is just full of himself. For all our sake, I hope BHO is just full of himself!

Posted by: Jeff | Aug 28, 2008 3:44:20 PM

Since the beginning of his campaign, Obama sounds like a tearsheet from a Marxist playbook, from class warfare to nationalizing the oil companies, and punishing Americans who shows any sign of wealth and really tax them hard to teach them a lesson . . . yeah, this is his version of the "Amercian" way. So tonight will I be suprised if he walks out from his temple pillars wearing a brown shirt with a bright armband and marching with a kick-step in "jack-boots". . . ? No, I would expect it! The question I have, if Obama becomes President will the White House be too white for him and Michelle, or will that "change" also? The bottom line is one of the real changes you will see after Obama taxes you for being successful, will be the change left in you pocket and he'll probably go after that too! WAKE UP AMERICA! The news media hasn't!

Posted by: usawhiteguy | Aug 28, 2008 3:42:46 PM

If Hillary was "shell-shocked" because she was stuck in an elevator for a few minutes... how could she ever be ready to have been President? Maybe that is what we should do.... stick Obama and McCain in elevators and whoever cries first is the loser... my money is on Obama. He is a bit of a wuss.

Posted by: Suzanne | Aug 28, 2008 3:42:29 PM

If we do "wake up" one day to being owned it will be by China, who has bought a disgusting amount of our debt in bonds to finance the Iraq war to the tune of 10 billion a month for 5 years now.

Just when a Democratic President had balanced our budget into a surplus and started reducing our national debt again, Bush and the neocons used China as America's credit card for the last 7 years. You can't wage wars and give tax rebates without finding a way to pay for it. I guess cutting government spending and raising taxes didn't poll well, so instead they mortgaged out country's future to a dangerous, massive, communist country.

So much for the party of fiscal responsibility.

Posted by: RPM | Aug 28, 2008 3:37:00 PM

Obama = Carter 2.0

Posted by: KM | Aug 28, 2008 3:20:30 PM

Gas prices fell because it was beginning to look like the artificial jail the oil guys have been in for forty years was being unlocked. It meant the process of giving all out money to outsiders was close or in the process of coming to an end.
When the hippies, liberals, and enviormentals wake up with the rest of the world owning the USA, they can blame themselves...and the new owners will harvest the USA energy that THEY NOW OWN

Posted by: robert | Aug 28, 2008 3:08:12 PM

Whoa, whoa, whoa..

Is anyone in their right mind trying to link "falling gas prices" to Bush, or anyone for that matter?

Bush "removed the drilling ban" on offshore oil, yes, but it doesn't actually allow for it to happen yet. There is also a ban on offshore drilling set by Congress years ago a well. They both have to be removed for it to happen, and I doubt that will happen anytime soon. Even so, it would take YEARS (we're talking 5+) to actually drill that oil, refine it into gasoline, and have it hit the domestic marketplace to help prices AT ALL.

Gas prices have MOMENTARILY receded because the dollar has strengthened, and futures in things like oil commodities and precious metals like gold have gone down in the last 2 months. It is temporary and do not think we have escaped high gas prices- they will be back and with a vengeance.

Only investing a ton of money and resources into new, alternative energy will ever save us. "Drill Here, Drill now" is just a slogan- America has almost no oil reserves in the ground left untapped compared to the way global demand will keep rising with countries like China and India growing and buying cars. That's why Obama is right about alternaitve energy and McCain is wrong about drilling.

Not to mention McCain has voted over 25 times against renewable energy legislation and is heavily financed by big oil.

Posted by: RPM | Aug 28, 2008 3:01:21 PM

The Clintons, especially Hillary are the ones that have me leaning toward Obama. I really don't like the man, but this country can not afford four more years of what Bush has given us the last 8.

Think about what Hillary said :

Were you in this for me or for the woman with cancer who had no health insurance or the marine or the lady working of minimum wage.

As was stated many times at the convention we are all in this TOGETHER.It' not just about you, it's about everyone in this country.

If you like the way things are going, vote for McCain, I personally don't.

Posted by: J | Aug 28, 2008 2:39:01 PM

McCain too old, too rich & too niave.
Obama is young, ambitious & actually cares about the American people.
He's not full of promises..but actually going to get things done.
That's the difference.
Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Northern View | Aug 28, 2008 2:38:02 PM

David: I think we should be able to discuss our views and still be Civil with each other, Last I checked in the end Democrat or Republican we are still on the same team.

Posted by: batesba74 | Aug 28, 2008 2:37:44 PM

batesba74: Well -- gotta agree with you on that one. I am obviously an Obama supporter but there no place for McCain/Vietnam jokes. Always in bad taste.

Posted by: David | Aug 28, 2008 2:32:27 PM

Oops. NOTHING -- is what I meant. Anyway -- name one thing McCain had done that makes yours or my life better? Just one. Can't? I can't either. In 26 years of service McCain's one claim to fame is the McCain-Feingold bill -- which essentially both parties walk around right now as we speak. They do it by having big money contributors put together what are called "joint committees" that pool together oodles of cash to get around the $2,300 limit. That is McCain's legacy. He hangs his hat on an invisible coat-track called McCain-Feingold. And if that's the best thing he's done in 26 years -- than he's hardly a good candidate for president.

Posted by: David | Aug 28, 2008 2:27:49 PM

I think Obama will make a great commander in Chief, he has his expereince from all his staff put together in a nut shell.

Posted by: GG | Aug 28, 2008 2:25:45 PM

Joan -- if Obama has done nothing for this country in his term in senate ... that means he and McCain have one thing in common. Because McCain has done one thing to make Americans lives better in TWENTY-SIX YEARS of service.

Posted by: David | Aug 28, 2008 2:23:56 PM

NO VOTES FOR BHO, I MIGHT HAVE IF HE WERE SMART ENOUGH TO DO THE RIGHT THING BUT... ASD USSUAL HE WASNT ...SO NOT MY VOTE!

Posted by: RELD1127 | Aug 28, 2008 2:22:20 PM

FRED MALEK.

Posted by: David | Aug 28, 2008 2:22:17 PM

Thanks for the adjective David. You missed my point entirely. I am referring to the histeria of the media and masses in embracing a speaker that public speaking is his only asset. You can make fun of McCain all you want but just what has Obama done for this country??? NOTHING, NADA, ZILCH.

Posted by: Joan Gardom | Aug 28, 2008 2:21:58 PM

siberia9

Wasn't BHO against the surge? Wasn't the surge successful in reducing violence? What did BHO predict would happen if the surge took place?

JM actually LISTENS to Petraus and local commanders and takes their advice. BHO knows more about military strategy than any commander and will tell them what to do.

BHO has been in charge of congressional oversight of Nato which runs Afghanistan for the last 2 years. He didn't do anything, not even a hearing or a meeting and now claims it's all screwed up.

When it comes to Georgia BHO stated we should go to the UN Security Council to get the Russians to leave. He didn't know Russia sits on that council. He didn't know that Russia has the ability to veto any resolution. That's basic UN 101.

It took 72 hours for BHO to come around to JM's postion and copy it. That's not leadership.

Posted by: Davei n lv | Aug 28, 2008 2:18:46 PM

I honestly cannot see how anyone with a single ounce of common sense would consider "McBush". Can we really afford another 4 years of the Bush Regime? Thats exactly what you'' get with McBush at the helm!

Harry P

Posted by: Harry Potter | Aug 28, 2008 2:13:43 PM

How is this news?!!?!?!

Posted by: Dude | Aug 28, 2008 2:13:34 PM

Worn Out: I find it funny how you actually believe the Clintons are supporting Obama? One of the longest Primaries in Democratic History just occurred and all The Clintons did is tell us how his policies are bad for America, how he is not ready to be President in experience and that he lacks the Judgment to be President. Do you actually ever think for yourself? Anybody that associates with the likes of Rezko, Rev. Wright, Louis Farrakhan, William Ayres lacks the Judgment to be President of the United States. You are going to blindly follow him because the Clintons support him? You are backing a candidate that has flip flopped on all of his Foreign Policy Stances From Israel, Cuba, North Korea, Iran. Do yourself a favor and research all of the issues Obama has changed his opinions on. It is almost as if he is a totally different candidate now than he was during the Democratic primary.

Posted by: batesba74 | Aug 28, 2008 2:11:54 PM

Obama has not changed my mind by Joe Biden speech maybe has was the best, can't beleive that he allowed Obama to kiss his wife on the lips. Is that what you call cronyism??

Posted by: Gloria | Aug 28, 2008 2:10:46 PM

Will someone explain why it's all about cronyism for picking the next president?

Hillary gave a great she crowned herself wow.

Bill Clinton passed the Clinton's torch and speech power.

Joe Biden made the kicker he gave a home run carrying the torch to Obama.

Interesting night, get's better, Now will some help Obama's wife write a better speech next time around a real speech self centered it't not all about her sorry.

Posted by: Gloria | Aug 28, 2008 2:07:42 PM

My Gosh!

This must have been as bad as the time she had to dodge bullets.

Posted by: ALS | Aug 28, 2008 2:04:25 PM

I shudder to think of an inexperienced man running this country with his militant looking wife. They both scare me and I pray every night Obama loses. The media frenzy and worship by the masses reminds me of a similar speeker in German not so long ago who had the people fooled then too. Wake up America and vote John McCair, a man of experience.

Posted by: Joan Gardom | Aug 28, 2008 2:02:41 PM

I must say I am tired of all you conservative whack jobs. Bill Cliton was the beast and Hillary is the best too. If they support Barack, that's good enough for me to support him too. A news guy asked me to name something Obama had done to help people and I thought how he visited his half brother in Africa and asked him how he was doing. It is all about taking care of each other and finding out how everyone is doing is a good thing.

Posted by: Worn Out | Aug 28, 2008 1:57:04 PM

Actually, I read somewhere that it isn't so much that Drudge loves Obama as much as he believes John McCain to be a hack and an idiot. (Which he is of course.)

Posted by: David | Aug 28, 2008 1:53:37 PM

Did BOTH Clinton's get caught between floors in an elevator??? Same time?? How odd....

Posted by: PeeDee | Aug 28, 2008 1:50:09 PM

Steven S.: Is it just me, or am I correct in assuming that Matt Drudge is actually campaigning for Obama now? Look at all his recent headlines; methinks he's now an Obama man!

Posted by: wowman | Aug 28, 2008 1:48:31 PM

Steven S.: Is it just me, or am I correct in assuming that Matt Drudge is actually campaigning for Obama now? Look at all his recent headlines; methinks he's now an Obama man!

Posted by: wowman | Aug 28, 2008 1:46:34 PM

"Luckily I can vote my ideals--voting for Nader, since I'm in California"
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Notice how the California delegation "passed", during the Clinton votes at the convention.

Nobody HAS to vote for Obama. And nobody should.

Posted by: Belle Starr | Aug 28, 2008 1:45:49 PM

siberia9 we don't need another Nancy!!!

Posted by: itsatumor | Aug 28, 2008 1:41:13 PM

Luckily I can vote my ideals--voting for Nader, since I'm in California, which pretty much assures the Democratic party will win by a wide margin, I'm not forced to vote for Obama, otherwise I would.

Posted by: Danny | Aug 28, 2008 1:40:38 PM

To Gary and all the other irrationals out there:

1) McCain and the Keating 5 scandal.
2) McCain cheats on his 1st wife, who's disabled, and then throws her to the curb for a rich heiress. That was how McCain worked his way to the top.
3) McCain has been wrong about every foreign policy issue since 9/11. He didn't think Afghanistan was a problem even up until 2 months ago, until he was proven wrong by even his idol Gen. Petraeus. He wants to stay in Iraq for an undefined amount of time, even though are military is strapped and depleted.
Obama, on the other hand, has been so right about foreign policy that he now has the Bush administration copying him and negotiating for timetables in Iraq. Obama was the one to say last year that Afghanistan would be a problem and that covert strikes would be needed to take out Al-Qaeda terrorists in the Afghan region - which Bush derided at first, and then copied months later.

Who's the real leader here? Who's been right on every major foreign policy issue since 9/11?

McCain doesn't know a thing about the economy. We know because he was dumb enough to say so himself in a Republican debate. He doesn't remember how many houses he had. He doesn't remember that he voted for health insurance to cover Viagra and *not* birth control.

If you all want this country to continue its descent into hell, go ahead and vote for McCain. But know that he's not looking out for anyone but the millionaires and billionaires. So all those jobs you so desperately need? Give up now. Because McCain has no economic plan except to continue with Bush's economic plan which - as we all know - has been a dismal failure.

Posted by: siberia9 | Aug 28, 2008 1:28:23 PM

Fox is reporting that it was BILL stuck in the elevator.

Who is correct?

Posted by: Steve in Wilmington,NC | Aug 28, 2008 1:23:49 PM

When Barack was interviewed by the pastor a couple of weeks ago,he was asked how to handle evil,do we confront,do we defeat it and the there was another answer I can't remember but billy bad mccain that has all the fight in him said we defeat it but barack's answer was more realistic to me, he said we confront it and then try to figure out how to handle or solve that particular situation.Evil will never be comepletly defeated,mccain should know that.

Posted by: vanessapenny | Aug 28, 2008 1:12:15 PM

Belle Star

Wow, you're all over the place.

This election is between Barack Obama and the John McCain of 2008. McCain hardly resembles the figure of 2004 and before who garnered the "post-partisan" label. So I choose to live in the present and base my evaluations on McCain's currently stated positions.

As for the Chicago mob stuff, I don't have to tell you that you're overstating your case. Nobody on either side of believes that.

I suppose I'll simply never understand the narcissistic thing. Is it because he did the thing with the seal? But the argument was around before that. Because he's a better speaker than we're used to these days? That would be silly. I think it's just a Republican talking point that became an out of control locomotive; and people forgot where it started. I mean, it's your opinion and I don't know an objective way to attack it, I just don't see what Obama has done so differently from other candidates to merit the judgment that he is self-absorbed.

Posted by: kcr | Aug 28, 2008 1:10:40 PM

I just have this image of Mrs Obama and Mrs McCain entertaining at the white house. Now who would I choose to represent the first lady?

Posted by: twenty2twenty | Aug 28, 2008 1:08:17 PM

Bill Ayers, a liability if Obama's nominated, Hillary Clinton warns (CHICAGO SUN-TIMES)

Posted by: jim | Aug 28, 2008 1:07:58 PM

Please, whatever you do, whatever you believe, don't let logic or civility get in the way of expressing your opinions.

Posted by: Snert Lee | Aug 28, 2008 1:06:31 PM

I apologize Cheryl, my remark was meant for Kcr, definately not for you. :)

Posted by: bombem | Aug 28, 2008 1:04:27 PM

So McCain is out of touch? Nancy Pelosi, the person deciding the energy policy for the entire country, isn't sure if she invested $50,000 or $100,000 in T. Boone Pickens natural gas scam. WHATS A COUPLE OF $50,000 CHECKS? Something smells stinky and it's NOT the GAS!

Posted by: killerbee | Aug 28, 2008 12:54:35 PM

OOPS, I meant "no sniper-fire".

Posted by: pt | Aug 28, 2008 12:54:31 PM

>>She was Shell shocked? Shouldn't the sniper fire have prepared her for this tramatic moment? That was funny. Really though, that was a bad week for her and once the media catch you in a white lie they come down like an anvil and crush any statement you make. The plagiarism alone may not have been enough to bring my hometown Sen Biden down in '88... but it set the media to critically analyzing him where they found other exagerations and plagiarism and outright arrogance that doomed his campaign.

I'm not a Hilary fan but I would prefer her to Obama. Obama scared me in the interview with the California Reverend. When asked if there is evil in the world, McCain straight out said yes and pointed out Al Queda. When asked the same question, the gist of what Obama said was there is great evil in the world because we don't have enough welfare and government programs to solve our countries' problems. Who needs a resurgent Russia? We got communism/socialism on the way with Obama.

Bah my vote doesn't matter anyway as I am from Delaware. This state is the bluest of the blue... Mother Theresa/Ghandi/Martin Luther King running on the republican ticked would get massacred by David Duke/Hitler/Stalin etc.. so long as they were on the democrat ticket. Candidates and names don't matter at all... only party affiliation (don't flame me, I am sure this is true as well in the Reddest of the Reddest states in the south...)
Speaking of which, what exactly was the turning point when the mainstream media decided that they were going to swap the common convention of the 80s and early 90s and switch from blue state = republican and red state = democrat to the reverse? Europe still associates left wing parties with red and right wing with blue. It used to be the same way in the US until the late 90s and 2000 campaign.. I guess the mainstream media didn't like to propagate that association (remember the cold war maps with a red russia and blue USA)

Delaware Boy

Posted by: Delawareboy | Aug 28, 2008 12:54:28 PM

Obama may be many things to you, but surely he must be the "best worst" of the two candidates.
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No: he isn't. He's nearly indistinguishable FROM McCain -- who was "post-partisan" saboteur Kerry's FIRST choice for VP, lest we forget -- other than the semi-"black" birthday suit and the painted-on grin.

In not having the Chicago mob behind him, McCain is MORE attractive than Narcissus. And Nader is more attractive than EVER.

Posted by: Belle Starr | Aug 28, 2008 12:51:27 PM

Cheryl, you said it right darlin, Stick to your guns.

Posted by: bombem | Aug 28, 2008 12:48:09 PM

Congress has the lowest approval rating ever. Could it be that they are not doing anything on purpose? With the War in Iraq going better after the surge and a withdraw schedule being agreed to, is it possible they are hoping things go bad and stay bad until the election? Lets look back to the end of the year in 2006 gas was a lot lower, the stock market was high, unemployment was low, consumer confidence was high. Then come the Democrats and the Government has done nothing, well almost nothing they did investigate steroid use in baseball, a major American concern...Pelosi sent the Democrats on a 5 week vacation without addressing the high price of gasoline..Well what a surprise know her stock in T Boone Pickens company will go even higher than the 300% increase she has enjoyed on the 50,000- 100,000 she invested on the original public offering. I mean if gas and Oil drop so does the value of her stock. The Democrats are crooks and need to be held to the same standard of scrutiny you are holding the Republicans and John McCain. Lets at least be fair about the whole thing. The Democrats have enjoyed a media bias like none we have seen before. It is time for this to stop and you will see they are not as innocent as you would think.

Posted by: batesba74 | Aug 28, 2008 12:38:39 PM

The truth that everyone knows is that genuine conservatives, though they're not shouting it now, will NEVER vote for an ADULTERER. Forget the scandals, the bribery, the senility, the houses, the war. True Christian Conservatives will be physically unable of putting a KNOWN ADULTERER in the White House. The enemy collaborator stuff (awww, all that standing gets uncomfortable after a while, doesn't it?) probably won't bother them as much – it's the ADULTERY, stupid!

Posted by: adulterous | Aug 28, 2008 12:36:22 PM

Cheryl,

I'm afraid I just don't understand the "no settling" argument.

It isn't as if you'll be insulated from the process by not voting--you'll have to live with the results like the rest of us. You will be settling for someone, vote or no vote. The question is whether you will settle for the party that will advance Clinton-like policies or the party that will seek to push more intolerance, war, and tax policies that say 'drop dead' to the next generation of Americans.

How can it be that the politicians are more important than the policies that affect all of us Americans? How can it be that a Clinton supporter could sit passively by while an opportunity to avoid the outcome of that latter set of policies presents itself? What will be left of the Democratic party (Hillary Clinton included) if we cannot muster a victory over that belligerent fool whose public speaking channels GW Bush, who jokes crassly about Chelsea Clinton to smoke-filled rooms of his donors (have you heard about this joke?), who professes ignorance regarding the fundamental issues of this election.

Obama may be many things to you, but surely he must be the "best worst" of the two candidates. They sure as hell are not equal. Democrats need you for something larger than one person. Please do not let us down.

Posted by: kcr | Aug 28, 2008 12:32:26 PM

susiepuma, democracy is alive and well in the Democratic Party! Your person lost and ours won! Face it and move on.

Posted by: AG | Aug 28, 2008 12:32:21 PM

She was Shell shocked? Shouldn't the sniper fire have prepared her for this tramatic moment?

Posted by: batesba74 | Aug 28, 2008 12:20:14 PM

Sanity Man,
Good on you being a good businessowner. And i am not thinking of myself. I am thinking of the 3 to 4 who are going to lose their jobs when when big O puts thru all the tax increases on us small business owners.
but then again he has to win first.

Posted by: View From 10AC | Aug 28, 2008 12:19:08 PM

Bill and Hill should go. And take the entire "sisterhood" with then.

Posted by: tully | Aug 28, 2008 12:15:41 PM

I live in the Socialist Republic of MICHIGAN, a traditional liberal stronghold for decades. The only reason everybody has has not left michigan yet is because they cannot sell their house or the Govt Assistance benefits are too good. Either way, this baby is ugly. It is also exactly what the Democrats have in store for the rest of the country. Granhmole, Levin, Stabenow, Kilpatrick, Cheeks-Kilpatrick, Conyers, M. Conyers, etc... See, one big ugly baby!

Posted by: killerbee | Aug 28, 2008 12:13:57 PM

Darn. I misread and thought Bill was stuck in the elevator. I rushed over to read wisecracks about how he was getting a little "stress relief" prior to his speech.

But it's just Hillary stuck in an elevator. I'm surprised she didn't make some bitter crack about how the elevator was prematurely halted by the glass ceiling.

Posted by: Ed | Aug 28, 2008 12:12:35 PM

Cheryl
No OBAMA- you can get mad and act stupid but I DON'T SETTLE FOR ANYTHING IN LIFE!!

Well said!

Posted by: Alexa | Aug 28, 2008 12:02:57 PM

Wow, the metaphorical possibilities of this incident are practically limitless! Did Hillary get stuck in the elevator going on its way up? or did she crawl out of an elevator that was going down anyway? You can't make this stuff up...

Posted by: Sean O'Brien | Aug 28, 2008 12:02:22 PM


Imagine that--politicans being incovenienced by malfunctioning elevators. Welcome to the real world of ordinary people, which elected officials leave when they become "royalty" and live off ordinary people for the remainder of their lives, regardless of service, or the lack thereof. It's way past time to limit terms and weaning the politicans. Talk about public dole. Look at our federal government and work to get rid of our public servants.

Posted by: brenda | Aug 28, 2008 12:00:46 PM

NOBAMA

NOBIDEN

NOVEMBER

When Democracy comes back to the Democratic Party, so will we.

Posted by: susiepuma | Aug 28, 2008 11:58:34 AM

Bob - the economy is up due to tax rebates , and the falling dollar. The falling dollar is raising energy costs, so who is getting taxed for the falling dollar, and who is going to get taxed for the rebates? We are and the rebates are over so the economy will start to slip again unless we haul out the old federal credit card again.

Stupid Bob!

Posted by: Sanity Man | Aug 28, 2008 11:58:08 AM

Not all voters make the decision for President, based on media stories, campaign hype, party officials, or enthused partisan bloggers. Some just quietly do their own research of a cross-section of both left and right wing sources, check their gut instincts and then put their Country before Party. In this case, I know of thousands of HRC PUMA's and undecided independent voters, male and female, have already decided to entrust their vote to the man they feel will, and has already courageously demonstrated, he will put his Country First. John McCain 2008.

Posted by: ClearMtnAir | Aug 28, 2008 11:57:08 AM