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Hillary's Ringing Endorsement

August 25, 2008 3:49 PM

Why are so many supporters of Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, convinced that she doesn't actually want Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, to win?

Might it have something to do with comments such as the following, which Clinton made today in Denver?

"Eighteen million people voted for me," she said.  "18 million people give or take voted for Barack."

Give or take?

- jp

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Her constituency has a right to be heard. The onus is on Obama to EARN their support not act like he's entitled to it. It doesn't help when a prominent Obama backer says some of Clinton’s people negotiating with the Obama team are “bitter enders” who presume that, rather than the Clintons reconciling themselves to Obama’s victory, it is up to Obama to accommodate them.

Posted by: Sammy | Aug 25, 2008 5:22:53 PM

Hillary Clinton has had her share of gaffes, and apparently let out another. But I don't question her sincerity of wanting what's best for the country. Early on in the race, she made it clear she would support Obama if he were the winner.

Posted by: kat | Aug 25, 2008 5:18:12 PM

And people, please remember this:

If Hillary Clinton was so completely unbeatable in a general election...then how come she lost to a first-term junior senator?

Perhaps it's time to just accept that Barack Obama played the game much better.

The next step is to be a sport about it and move on.

Ask yourself these two simple questions.
-1. Do you think the country is on the right track?
-2. Do you want to elect a candidate who wants to continue the policies of the past 8 years?

If your answer to both questions is "no", then you'll know what to do when you're in that voting booth.

Posted by: Kaj | Aug 25, 2008 5:15:02 PM

"give or take" means she got MORE POPULAR vote than he did, about 500.000 more, according to David Gergen, CNN.

Since she did, she has every right to shout it from mountain tops. The same people that have been trying to silence her since February of 2007 are the same ones that cried for years of how Bush stole the election. Well, get over it, you learned well and now it is our turn to cry for YEARS how Obama stole the primary.

And as for the threat that she will have no support in 2012 if she or we don't pony up, guess what, just like we have denied Obama our support in November, we will deny him our support in 2012, in 2018. Plenty of time for him to be legally disqualified for the fraud that he is.

Posted by: hype bites | Aug 25, 2008 5:14:29 PM

"And I'm afraid some will blame the Clintons if he loses."

She's not on the ticket and SHE will be the cause of his defeat? Pretty influential for the "loser" position, eh?

If her absence on the ticket is "blamed" for the loss or her "missing" influence is blamed, all the more reason not to make the same mistake in 2012.

Political Genius.


Posted by: Sammy | Aug 25, 2008 5:12:20 PM

THe CLINTONS WERElam the Democratic Party.

And when Obama falls on his face this year, don't blame the CLINTONS!

Posted by: EYES WIDE OPEN...." | Aug 25, 2008 4:29:48 PM

That's exactly why Hillary was voted against. She and Bill thought THEY were the democratic party. The party is much bigger than them. Everyone was tired of their superior attitude, especially thinking she was entitled to the nomination and obviously still does. No more dynasties in the white house. The other 18 million of us has spoken. And I'm afraid some will blame the Clintons if he loses.

Posted by: puma what | Aug 25, 2008 5:07:18 PM

Being a POW doesn't count as being in the war? Really, REALLY and truly there should be no doubt as to why a far left Democratic Party can't win the Presidency after this coming defeat. You all need to regroup and re-center the party along Clintonian lines.

Posted by: Sammy | Aug 25, 2008 5:06:52 PM

Kaj

Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! You have summed my sentiments exactly. She is acting like some pouting child who didn't get her way, and is hiding behind the fact of the number of votes she received. We are aware and RESPECT that. however it's time to move on. And it is a total disgrace. No wonder, they don't want a women with her finger on the "button" who could trust someone who harbors resentment this long? that's why I can't vote for McCain. I know a lot is made of his POW exprience, and how that makes him the best choice for president. Why? because we feel sorry for him? He was in a POW camp for 5 years? well then, he wasn't acually "in the war" not fighting or advising anyway. I do so much respect his service, however, I don't think that makes him any better qualified to be President.

Posted by: fempharoh08 | Aug 25, 2008 5:01:28 PM

Hillary has also clearly stated that the convention is for Obama. She's just doing a mild variation from Tammy Wynette's Stand by Your Man.

Posted by: kat | Aug 25, 2008 5:00:59 PM

Kaj

"As has become clear, Hillary Clinton would never have agreed to becoming Obama's VP."

Probably true. But he fell into her trap and he could have prevented it if he was savvy.

Remember when Biden was announced and there was that story in the press that she wasn't even vetted? That was the Hillary making SURE everyone knows she wasn't considered? Remember her announcement after her conceding that she'd consider the VP slot?

That was the set up.

She's now free to undermine him, subtly, and say "I told you so" in 2012.

Hi only way out of the trap would be to make a big deal about how the party NEEDS her to be the VP. Make it public, make it an appeal! There is no way she could then say no and not escape blame if he then loses.

Hi lack of experience is really showing here. This is BASIC stuff. If he can't handle this....


Posted by: Sammy | Aug 25, 2008 4:47:01 PM

For all of you who don't want more of the same then stay away from Obama. The Obama/Biden ticket looks just like the Bush/Cheney ticket. An inexperienced politician with endless money at the top of the ticket and a mentor at the bottom.

Democrat for McCain

Posted by: JamesUVA | Aug 25, 2008 4:43:28 PM

Absolutely, Sammy. I can't think of another Republican I'd vote for; I'd probably stay home. But I'll be proud to cast my vote for John McCain. It would have been truly bittersweet to have to cast a vote for Hillary over him in the general.

Posted by: marylou | Aug 25, 2008 4:42:58 PM

Zoinks! He's been using sock puppets to make it look like they hate each other! I should have known.

Posted by: Velma | Aug 25, 2008 4:42:41 PM

Oh, give me a break. I saw that press conference today, and it was clear in its support of Obama.

Posted by: CH | Aug 25, 2008 4:41:30 PM

I'm sick of the media blaming Clinton for everything. Why do they keep calling this Clinton drama. Isn't it really Obama drama? Why has he not reached out to the people who voted for Clinton in the primaries? Why has he not reached out to Bill Clinton? Obama made it clear that he thinks he doesn't need Clinton's supporters, so guess what he won't get them.

Posted by: Al | Aug 25, 2008 4:40:23 PM

Sammy,

I'm sorry to have to say this, but you seem ill-informed, so let me help you out.

As has become clear, Hillary Clinton would never have agreed to becoming Obama's VP.

That was made very clear when the Clinton campaign told Team Obama that it did not want Hillary to go through the usual vetting process.

Numerous reports, from numerous separate sources, have corroberated this.

And from what I hear, Clinton herself told a small group of campaign managers that "no", she would not accept the Veep-slot. One day later, the campaign team was effectively dissolved.

And don't forget: tough-loving Republicans like you thought that John F. Kennedy would be a Democratic push-over. So did Nikita Kruschev.

Truman? "Pushover", you say.
This man took the final decision on nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and then he stood up for freedom in Korea.

Lyndon B. Johnson? "Pushover", you say.

Jimmy Carter? "Pushover."
Carter Doctrine, Pershings in Europe...?

Bill Clinton? "Pushover."
Haiti, Serbia, Sudan, Iraq...?

I could go on.

Now, I'm not a big Obama fan. But even the miserable failure George W. Bush was able to show resilience when it was needed - right after 9/11. (That's excluding invading Iraq.)

Just as you Republicans have always cut Reagan, Bush and Bush some slack, try keeping an open mind on others.

Posted by: Kaj | Aug 25, 2008 4:38:22 PM

It's not whether or not HRC wants the phony Zero-bama to win, it is I, and counting, who want 0-bama to lose. And, one by one, there are 30% of 18 million who voted in the primaries, who will not support Zero-bama.

He does not deserve to be a democratic nominee, having equating the Clinton Administration to that of GW Bush's, and having framed his fellow democrats, including his running mate, as racists.

Posted by: Atom | Aug 25, 2008 4:36:23 PM

There isn't much difference between McCain and Clinton. This is why many Republicans aren't too fond of McCain. As I heard someone say; "the Democrats have nominated the ONLY Democrat who can lose and the Republicans have nominated the ONLY Republican who could win."

Posted by: Sammy | Aug 25, 2008 4:36:02 PM

Kaj,

Don't fall for it. What has Clinton done to make you so offended? Nothing.

Its what the media and the Republicans are saying. Look very closely, whenever some schism appears it is invariably someone in the media or Republicans putting words in their mouth or apparently reading their minds.

Posted by: Mike | Aug 25, 2008 4:33:47 PM

People voted for Clinton because she was the best candidate. Now they are voting for McCain because he is the best of our choices. Obama is grossly under-qualified so many democrats are not voting for him, not because secretly Hillary is telling us to vote McCain. Conspiracy theorists are running the news.

Democrat for McCain

Posted by: Al | Aug 25, 2008 4:29:58 PM

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