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Ri;ey: All I can say is I love your statement. When are the American people going to wake up before its too late. Don't they know that Obama will not be running the country Biden will behind the scenes if Obama is elected. Are we that stupid?

con me not: I love those true comments. And you are absolutely right. Most of the American public believes whatever Obama says because they think he is going to change the world. The only change he knows is what is in his pocket. I know that Bill and Hillary Clinton know him like a book without the cover. The only reason Hillary is supporting him is because she will run for the senate again and the democrats would turn against her. Many democrats are turncoats. They are like a bunch of cry babies. Its either or with them. Kennedy, Kerry, Carter and three turncoats that turned their back on Hillary. I don't like any of them. And to show how crooked the DNC is they now want to seat all the MI and FL delegates but when Hillary wanted that they wouldn't do it for her. Hillary should never endorsed Obama or campaigned for him she just should have supported him. He is making a fool out of her and she don't realize it but I hope Hillary's voters are smart enough to all vote McCain and leave Obama in the dust.

Peach: Whatever is in the dark about Obama will come to the light eventually. We all know his background but many people just don't want to face it that's why they will vote for him. In my time he wouldn't even be a candidate running for the presidency. He is underhanded and crooked like the DNC especially Nancy Pelosi. I am hoping the republicans take back the house. She is a snake in the woods. Because of her Hillary didn't get the nomination. She pressured the superdelegates that wanted to wait until the convention for their vote but she didn't want that so Obama got the votes. I don't believe he will win in the general election because no matter what the news media states most of Hillary's voters will elect McCain. Then all we will need is a republican house speaker.

Fact check: Why wasn't the original birth certificate shown on TV and I don't mean the registration of birth. I mean the words birth certificate. Who is kidding who.

Willem van Oranje: Let's go on record to say true American's stand for American and don't set bombs off like Ayers did. Don't defend Ayers actions. Obama knew Ayers well, received donations from him and had dinners with him. He has close ties to Ayers and everyone knows it. Why try to hide it. Obama spent his younger days with crooks and the public is well aware of it. I am hoping McCain beats him out. Its too bad Rice won't accept being his running mate because McCain would win in a landslide.

Peter: Yes, you do have to make 5 million per year to be rich. How far do you think a million goes. There are houses and condo's selling for a million or more. And for your information Biden was for the war like McCain and Obama said he was against it but he wasn't in the senate when the vote was decided. He is wishy washy, a liar and fake. Get a grip. He doesn't even have the intelligence to run this country that's why he picked Biden. Obama if elected will be president in name only Biden will be running the country.

Beckie: You are so right. Obama doesn't have the intelligence, capabilities or experience to run this country. Biden will be running it from behind the scenes while Obama is president in name only. Obama has the worst background of any candidate that ran for president of this country. His association with several crooks alone especially Ayers. And he cannot say he wasn't good friends with him, because Ayers was a racist, anti-american like Obama was in his younger years. Obama had a book published called The Audacity Of Hope but the words in that book were from pastor Wright because that's what he was preaching that day. Obama took those words and had it published making over a million dollars when Wright should have been given half that money. Obama cannot form words for his speeches so he has to use the speeches of RFK, JFK and MLK. For a Harvard graduate he is really dumb. I would love to know what kind of grades he got. And does he have a legal birth certificate. Investigation on him reported he was born in Kenya because his mother was refused passage on a plane to Hawaii and had to leave later. When she came to Hawaii she registered him there. What he has in the US is a Registration of Birth only. What happened to his birth certificate. Is Kenya covering up those facts?

Willem van Oranje: Haven't you been up todate with politics lately? Of course McCain can't find Osama bin Laden in Pakastan because that country will not permit us to look for him there. Get a grip and read more. If he is in Pakastan they will not release him to us. Obama is not interested in Osama bin Laden and never will be. That was just one of his false statements made as usual. Bush didn't even look for Bin Laden. Its too much trouble and a waste of time for us when the soldiers should be coming home instead. And we don't want trouble with Pakastan we have enough being in Iraq.

According to conservative commentator and former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan, Sen. John McCain's chief foreign policy adviser Randy Scheunemann is a 'dual loyalist,' 'neocon warmonger' involved in activities that 'none dare call treason.'

Scheunemann's former employer, Orion Strategies, is a lobbying firm with strong ties to Mikheil Saakashvili's administration in Georgia.

Since Georgia attempted to retake South Ossetia by force, triggering a sharp, violent rebuke by Russian forces, Sen. McCain has been by far the most strident advocate of US support for the former Soviet state. And his top adviser, says Buchanan, may well be the next Henry Kissinger or Zbigniew Brzezinski.

"He is a dual loyalist, a foreign agent whose assignment is to get America committed to spilling the blood of her sons for client regimes who have made this moral mercenary a rich man," he wrote.

In his recent history, Scheunemann was a key member of the Project for a New American Century (PNAC), which lobbied President Clinton for war with Iraq for years before the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. He was also a signatory on a letter to President George W. Bush, just days after the terrorist attacks, demanding an invasion of Iraq and threatening political consequences if the president did not comply.

In addition, Scheunemann served as executive director of Ahmad Chalabi's group, "The Committee for Liberation of Iraq," a pro-war organization formed in 2002. Chalabi, once dubbed the "George Washington of Iraq," has since been accused of providing false information to US authorities and is currently under investigation.

"Most important, Scheunemann's former lobbying firm, Orion Strategies, received at lest $800,000 from the government of Georgia between 2004 and May 15, 2008, when Scheunemann finally severed his ties -- officially, at least -- to the firm," notes The Nation. "Before that, between January 1, 2007, and May 15, 2008, Scheunemann was officially on the payroll as both Georgia's lobbyist and McCain's top adviser, during which time Georgia paid Orion and $290,000 and McCain paid him $70,000."

While the Bush administration has conceded that the Russian response to Georgia's aggression is not grounds for starting another war, Scheunemann and Orion Strategies have succeeded in making Georgian membership in NATO a popular position. Sens. McCain and Obama, along with the Bush administration, are all pushing to have the embattled nation inducted into the alliance, bringing a pact of war along with it should Russian forces again cross into the country.

"Others who were once uneasy about the influence of conservatives on Mr. McCain say that their worries have not been realized, even as Mr. McCain has taken conservative positions," writes Elizabeth Bumiller in the New York Times.

"This is the situation in which the interventionists have placed our country: committed to go to war for countries and causes that do not justify war, against a Russia that is re-emerging as a great power only to find NATO squatting on her doorstep," said Buchanan.

"[T]here doesn't seem to be any momentum either for a direct legal challenge or a congressional investigation, which could subpoena the players and get sworn testimony," reported Robert Dreyfuss for The Nation.

McCain staff have called the criticism of Scheunemann's ties to Georgia "disgraceful," and even alleged that Democrats are parroting claims injected into Western media by a Russian public relations firm.

Let's try it this way.

Peach: Ayers did not target civilians, he targeted objects. Do you believe that destroying (government) property is *always* bad? Even when you believe that you are doing it for a greater cause?

What's your opinion on the Gaspée Affair and the Boston Tea ‘Party’?
To refresh your memory: in the first, insurgents destroyed a warship from their government; in the second terrorists destroyed property owned by a government-friendly company worth roughly $1,2 million (in 2008 dollars).

Silly McCain has been signaling to Osama bin Laden where to hide: he likes to say that he would follow OBL to the ‘Gates of Hell’.

But not Pakistan.

OBL is in Pakistan

McCain got away with just a slap on the wrist in the Keating Five scandal was by

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I'm sure you can guess it

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Correct. Raising the POW card.

Take for instance his supporter Senator Bob Dole back then: "He has been held hostage before under very difficult circumstances. So let us not keep him hostage here in the Senate,"

Source: New York Times, October 23, 1990.

EYES WIDE OPEN, McCain was dead center deep in the Keating 5 scandal, but a Republican congress gave him a mere slap on the hand. Obama's crew has ALL the documents on Keating, and if blowhard McCain wants to be so incredibly stupid to throw the tired old Retzo crap out again, Obama's camp is going to clean McCreep's clock.

Zaggs -

Good memory about Obama wanting to go after Pakistan. I'd forgotten that. He's a little quick on the trigger with some things and then a little slow on the update with others -- like the crisis in Georgia/Russia.

William -

Ayers hasn't turned his life around. He said in 2001 that he regretted not setting more bombs and doing more harm to government installations and civilians.

Apparently Barry never learned that we are known by our associations. And his are doozies.

But we shouldn't be surprised. He admits in one of his biographies (the first one, I think) that his favorite professors were Marxists. I can see he hasn't changed or grown through the years either. Pity.

Finally, someone is getting on this Ayers story. Bloggers have known about this story for 1.5 years. And then mainstream media wonders why their profits are down. LOL

Obama says Americans should know better but in all reality their are way too many ignorant Americans and their are some that just want to believe these lies as gospel.

When will you people wake up and admit that you picked the wrong man - a Chicago-style, Washington-style politician? You all picked lousy the last 8 years - don't repeat the mistake again! BO is not fit to be pres!

What is truely ironic is that Republicans like to portray them as ‘Real Christians’, and that Christianity is about forgiveness and not being judgemental because God is the only one who has the right to judge.

Yet, when they are confronted with Ayers who has been a bad man but who has turned his life around and has become a truely valuable and distinguished member for his community and society through his work and his charity work, all they can muster is hate.

The only thing I said was that many powerful people have done drugs in their youth including presidents. It's wasn't scandalous because no one really cares.

@Zaggs:

I stand by what I wrote. McCain had no business circumventing the State Department. Period. If they were slow to respond it's because Condi Rice is an incompetent boob, just like the rest of the revolving door Bush administration.

Georgia attacked a small enclave of pro-Russian Georgian citizens within their borders. But these people also had Russian passports. What's the only way you can get a Russian passport? By being a Russian citizen. End of story.

What happened in Georgia was an act of aggression of Georgia on Georgians. Only the South Ossetian Georgians are in fact Russian of some stripe. The Russians were dying to humiliate Saakashvili and give the West something to think about over the now-ratified U.S. missile shield in Poland, so they seized this opportunity to make their point. South Ossetia, Georgia, and in fact the whole region was part of the former Soviet Union; the same Soviet Union that produced KGB-agent Vladimir Putin. Perhaps it's not water under the bridge.

Even the U.N. security council can see this is gamesmanship between the U.S. and Russia and chose to stay the hell out of it. Don't be so naive.

Eyes, A lot of people in power have done drugs in their youth, among other things. This includes some of our presidents. And where are these scandals. There aren't any because nobody, except for the older generation, cares if they did drugs.

Eyes wide open, it just goes to show that McCain didn't show good judgement when he got involved with the Keating 5. Is there a time limit on bad judgement.

Posted by: d | Aug 22, 2008 3:59:53 PM
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How far back should we go to forgive barack for HIS blunders?

Let's see...... about twenty or so years ago, he was still into drugs.....
hmmmmmmmmm

Obama and Ayers--two radicals trying to brainwash naive young people.

What a coincidence.

Eyes wide open, it just goes to show that McCain didn't show good judgement when he got involved with the Keating 5. Is there a time limit on bad judgement.

Joe,

I'm not arguing in behalf of Bill Clinton;

I was merely trying to show that Ayers, who is more than just an "associate" of Obama's, put people in danger and never showed one ounce of remorse for his actions.... even after the bombings of the twin towers.

(On the other hand, imperfect though he was/is, Bill Clinton will go down in history as one of our greatest presidents!)

" Many younger voters do not remember the Keating Five Scandal - but John McCain was the greatest hypocrite amongst the lot. "

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EGADS!!!!

How many times must you be told... and told again.... that McCain was cleared of any complicity or guilt in this event which occurred more than twenty years ago and which you bring up like an after-dinner burp every time you run out of something to beef about!

Give it up!

Joe, McCain also called for unseating Saddam from the inside. he also said "But No. 2, these organizations could not flourish effectively unless they had the help and assistance and safe harbor of these nations. And it isn't just Afghanistan — we're talking about Syria, Iraq, Iran, perhaps North Korea, Libya and others.". If you are accusing McCain over such statements of being quick to war, the same must also be said of Obama who said he would strike Pakistan if they did not go after terrorists as well. In fact did not Obama also state "There can be no safehaven for terrorists who threaten the American people." (in fact its on his webpage). Whats the difference between the statements outside of McCain being more specific?

Thank goodness courageous people are putting the truth about Obama out. And clearly Obama has LIED about the relationship with Ayers! He makes it out to be casual, but Obama launched his campaign at Ayers home....you call that casual, someone who justlives in his neighborhood? Ayers has been Obama's benefactor for years! Another exercise in poor poor judgement from Precious Obama.

Americans will come to know the Wrights and Ayers of Obama's ways.

Obama is a FRAUD - he will Never be elected. He is an Arrogant, Radical, Fraud - he is NOT qualified due to his Radical, Questionable background - he is NOT fit to lead our country.

Ok zaggs. How do you explain Mccain't's veiws that after 9/11 that we need to go after North korea Iran Iraq afganistan pakistan china and other nations. He basicaly calling for the United States to start WWIII. That is the hot head you people want in office. And Russia will attack Poland and agree with them for doing so.

Look at the facts democratics are better at handling the economy as well. I would post that info as well but I think you guys can use the practice.

Cracker, let me try to make this very simply so you can understand. Even obama came round and recognized Russia over reacted and was the aggressor. You cannot escape that fact no matter how many words you want to put on my keys.
Who said anything about militarily backing up Georgia? Not McCain. The difference is Obama could only think of the UN security council. Anything done there would be vetoed by Russia. Hell they met 5 times in 5 days and could not even issue a STATEMENT! But good to know what people in obama-land consider a good responce. In fact even to this day the UN STILL has yet to do anything.
McCain, on the other hand, called on the UN, the European Union (EU) and the Organization for Security and Co-operation (OSCE). Why those last two? Because McCain knew, unlike Obama who as usual is clueless in all things foreign, the the cease fire between Georgia and ossetia (its never been part of Russia, which makes one wonder how they got Russian passports) was brokered by and observed by the OSCE.
Also the EU could actually bring economic pressure onto Russia.
That is far from acting unilaterally and calls into question your knowledge of the basic facts of foreign policy and current events.

McCain is up to his eyeballs in the muck that is being flung about by his Karl Rove handlers. I agree that it is indeed time to remind people how corrupt McCain really is. Many younger voters do not remember the Keating Five Scandal - but John McCain was the greatest hypocrite amongst the lot. The amazing aspect of this story is that McCain was caught red-handed so there is no need to rump up a bunch of Swift Boat style lies - his dishonesty is a matter of record.

Imagine Obama with Pelosi and Reid...

- Truly SCARY !!!!

This is once again the dumbest argument I have ever been involved in with ####### who refuse to look at facts!

it seems that obama has been making too many defensive statements about his questionable friends......all these questionable characters do have one thing in common: obama

I am not looking for a grade from someone who twist facts around because of blind support for someone who pardons terrorist. You like that assertion?

So it's okay if you are convicted and repentant but not okay if you weren't convicted and unrepentant? This is a dumb argument with someone who just refuses to look at facts.. Or is it ok because Bill did it? I know how you really feel now.

The polls all show that a lot of people are changing their minds about voting for Obama due to fear of what he'll do to this counrty as President.

The fear is completely justified, because he would RUIN this country irrevocably.

If you think Bush was bad for the country, Obama would make changes to our country that will make what Bush has done to it pale in comparison.

good job, Joe.....

but you need to go to more than one source.....

I'll give you a B!

Imagine this calamity if you will: Senior citizen 'HOTHEAD McCAIN' commander-in-chief---President of the United States.

"Obama also correctly said that President Bill Clinton had pardoned or commuted the sentences of two Weather Underground members," .....

and, unlike Ayers later showed that they were repentent!

And thats homework eyes wide open!

In fact, nobody died as a result of bombings in which Ayers said he participated as part of the Weather Underground, at the New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, in a men's lavatory in the Capitol building in 1971 and in a women's restroom in the Pentagon in 1972. The deaths to which Clinton referred were of three Weather Underground members who died when their own "bomb factory" exploded in a Greenwich Village townhouse on March 6, 1970. Ayers was not present. Also, two police officers were murdered in connection with the robbery of a Brinks armored car by Weather Underground members in 1981. That was about a year after Ayers had turned himself in and after all charges against him had been dropped.

Ayers did say ''I don't regret setting bombs'' and "I feel we didn't do enough'' regarding the group's violent protests against the Vietnam War. That was in a New York Times interview that was published the morning of September 11, 2001. The interview had been conducted earlier, in connection with the publication of a memoir of the year Ayers spent as a fugitive with his wife and fellow Weather Underground member Bernardine Dohrn. Ayers is now a professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago. Obama and Ayers served together for a time on the board of an antipoverty charity, the Woods Fund of Chicago, from 1999 to 2002. Ayers also contributed $200 to Obama's campaign for the Illinois state Senate on March 2, 2001.

When moderator George Stephanopoulos asked Obama about Ayers, the senator said he is "a guy who lives in my neighborhood ... who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis."

Obama also correctly said that President Bill Clinton had pardoned or commuted the sentences of two Weather Underground members, who had, unlike Ayers, been convicted and sentenced to long prison terms. Bill Clinton indeed pardoned one and commuted the sentence of another.

Obama visited Ayer's home in 1995 at the invitation of an Illinois state senator, according to a Feb. 22 story in Politico.com. But Politico concluded, "There’s no evidence their relationship is more than the casual friendship of two men who occupy overlapping Chicago political circles and who served together on the board of a Chicago foundation." And while we by no means defend or condone bombings of any kind, Clinton strained the facts to make Ayers' 1970s activities sound homicidal.

The most risky person to be a President will be McCain. McCain must be asked to take an IQ Test and the results must be revealed to the public. I hope his blind followers will wake-up, then.

Ayers wasn't convictede of anything ethier and there "relationship" is nothing more than serving on a board that delt with poverty in Southside Chicaggo if that makes obama an evil guy than I'd hate to see your definition of someone who is good.

Not true eyeswide open he didn't say that on 9/11 he said it earlier the story was published on 9/11 and Ayers wrote that in his memoiur, Jeeze republicans can't or choose not to read I already posted all these facts on Ayers.

Hey gary wasn't the pres at that time a democrat also I think Hitler was a mor legitamate reason than mystery WMD's that were LIED about and that our country SOLD sadam Hussien. Also if Saddam had allowed all this stuff and on an international stage said I have no WMD's what do you think Iran's response would have been? And how do you no the Russians aren't stopping another Hitler?

BTW ... Obama was 6 years old when Ayers was leading weather underground.

Posted by: hesingswithfrogs | Aug 22, 2008 1:20:46 PM

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BTW... that was THEN; this is NOW!.

And as recently as 9/11, Ayers stated that "he should have done more!" when talking about his bombings!

Nor is the relationship between Obama and Ayers just a casual one.

DO YOUR HOMEWORK!

Prediction: by October McCain will be leading by 15 points.

"That's not lack of patriotism, it's lack of judgment. That's why McCain is not Presidential material.'

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YOU weren't there. YOU didn't hear the information given to the members of our congress by Bush..... shortly after 9/11!

It is easy to "judge" in retrospect..... but who would have thought that our PRESIDENT would have lied to our legislators.....

I'm sure THEY didn't! And "THEY" were both Democrats and Republicans!

Give it a rest!

The truly scary candidate for President ot the U. S. is John McCain. This man is well known on Capitol Hill is a HOTHEAD who often loses his temper. Now this is TRULY SCARY: a senior citizen HOTHEAD running as a candidate for President of the United States!

Bring it on. Let's fight the sixties culture war all over again. Did we lose in Vietnam because America was unwilling to do everything possible to win or did we lose because (as McNamarra said) it was a mistake and we never should have gotten involved.

Some one who was in the Vietnam war should have known better than to support the invasion of Iraq. That's not lack of patriotism, it's lack of judgment. That's why McCain is not Presidential material.

Smear & Fear campaigns work on simple minds, show what the GOP is made up of.

Looks like its time to take a look at the launch of McCain's political career. It's juicy ... convicts and mob connections.

BTW ... Obama was 6 years old when Ayers was leading weather underground.

Obama supporters are so hypocritical. I'll bet if McCain was chummy with Timothy McVeigh, you'd all think that was a big deal!

If there's no damaging relationship between Obama and Ayers, why is the Annenburg Challenge refusing to release its records from the period when Obama served as Chairman of the Board to Ayers attempt to "revolutionize" education?

Joe,
Based on your logic of using civilian casualties during a war as a reason not to go to war, WWII could not have been justified. Evil would prevail in the world and you Joe, would be speaking German today and shouting "heil Hitler". In the case of the US invasion of Iraq, even Obama admits that Saddam was an evil guy. Records from Saddam's files now shows he had every intention of restarting his WMD program as he did not think the US would invade Iraq. So if Obama had gotten his way Iran and Iraq would be or about to be in possession of nukes, Russia would be not only invading Georgia they would realize that Obama is all talk and be in the process of invading their other neighbors and the World would be in on the verge of WWWIII. Just ask your self if Obama had been in power when Hitler was on the rise, what would Obama do? I suspect Obama's "golden" tongue would not have been enough to stop Hitler or any other sworn enemy of the US for that matter.

NObana, with so little experience / exposure at the Federal / National level, is finally being fully investigated and VETTED - and it is by far more than just Dr. Corsi, Freddoso, Penn, Morris, Barnes, Hannity, and MANY MANY others!

As the vetting of NObama progressed - Hillary won 500K more votes than NObama in the final Democratic Primaries (based on NObama Elitist "bitter" remarks, et al) and, in a very recent poll Hillary is doing MUCH better than NObama vs McCAIN!!

NObama - BUYER'S REMORSE !!

NObama: NO Judgement to LEAD - esp. for US President

BTW, would have REALLY APPRECIATED the opportunity to chose between..

McCAIN or Hillary in '08 !!

I wonder if the GOP had there one shot with over done smears 4 years ago. I wonder if voters won't be a bot more skeptical about what groups like this are saying. And by the way it would be good if the media could report Ayers comments on the report that is quoted in these ads, which he says 'This is not a question of being misunderstood or "being taken out of context" but of a deliberate distortion.'

Tom, "in full compliance or face serious consequences"

Let's see, what has history learned us:

By 2003, Iraq HAD been in full compliance with all the relevant council resolutions. They had gotten rid of all WMD's, and had presented all their documentation to proof it.

However, the US was so intent on invading Iraq, that they fabricated intelligence to ‘proof’ that Iraq had ‘hidden’ their WMD's. Rumsfeld and Cheney ‘knew’ were they were but they weren't going to tell the inspectors.

Now we know they lied in front of the UN. The French and the Germans exposed their lies but he US still went in illegally and unilaterely, without a sanction from the UN. The UN inspectors were still working in Iraq to search for these socalled ‘hidden’ WMD's.

The US was afraid the UN-route would proof to be unsuccesful so they pulled the inspectors out under the threat that the US was going in.

As we all know: No WMD's were found. No ties to Al Qaeda were found.

France, Germany and the UN were right. Iraq HAD been in full compliance with all the relevant council resolutions. They had gotten rid of all WMD's, and had presented all their documentation to proof it.

Ok I'm out I posted the TRUTH down below.... I hope it sets you free!

I know some POW'S and they are screwed up! Just a little unstable but they can still function and not all of them are the same. But agree I do think Mcain't gets a free pass because of that status.

LEAVE JOHN ALONE! He was a POW so he can lie or say anything he wants. He deserves the WH because he was a POW, he got into the Senate because he was a POW and dang it, nobody will stop him cause he was a POW. Doesn't matter how low in his class standing he was, how many planes he crashed, he was a POW. He has pictures of himself as a POW in one of his 10 houses. He can't remember which house cause he was a POW.

And when Bush is convicted of war crimes I'm going to laugh as well. HOw many people is he resbonsable for murdering? Hmmm? WE've killed alot of civillans. Crazy, eye for an eye right wing ideology, is going to be the end of the human race.

Also tom show me were Obama makes that assertion. I speak for myself not Obama.

This ad is a bigoted ridiculous rehash of an old story brought up months ago. The ad is an insult to a person's intelligence as it invokes the logical fallacy of 'guilt by association'. It is 'red herring' propoganda with no other purpose than to deceive the American voter's into believing Obama has done something wrong. Obama has done nothing wrong! Barack Obama was 6 or 7 years old when this chapter in our nation's history took place and he has stated he deplores these despicable acts which occured 40 years ago. Ayers was not punished by the government and it is hatemongering to try and blame Obama. This ad is merely more right-wing propaganda based on insinuation, the sole purpose of which is to deceive and distract the voters from the REAL issues of TODAY. This election the voters will not be fooled again, they will see thru the trickery!

Hey tom 3at3m!

So, genocide is a better reason than.. Ummmmm, uhhhh, WMD'S yea thats it even though my country soild them to him. It is one big lie that got us into Iraq

Joe,
The US spent a year and a half in the UN working to get permission to invade Iraq. United Nations Resolution 1441, November 8, 2000,listed the many resolutions sent to and ignored by Saddam over the prior nine years and demanded that he be in full compliance with all the relevant council resolutions or face serious consequences

All members of the U.N. Security Council voted to enforce this resolution.

On October 7, 2002, Congress unanimously passed the "Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq". Bush signed it. This act enumerated the many violations and implored the president to take whatever action necessary to force Saddam to abide by his cease-fire agreement.

Russia invaded Georgia under the cover of night without any discussion or approvals from the UN.Russia's goal of invading Georgia was not to free the Georgian people, Georgia has a Democratically elected government. Saddam was one of the worse dictators in modern time responsible for the whole sale slaughter of over 2 million people. The fact you make a moral equivalence, like your hero Obama does, to Russia's invasion of Georgia and the US invasion of Iraq, makes me want to throw up. God help us if Obama gets elected and people of your ilk ever get power. The US will be doomed.

Obama needs to release all of the papers that the University of Illinois is holding, which will most likely document how closely Obama associated himself with the unrepentant terrorist. The truth is going to come out sooner or later anyway. Better now, than before he gets the chance to step foot in the White House, because once the country finds out how cozy Obama is with terrorists, they will turn away from him by the millions and he won't be able to govern.

They were blowing up toilets with cherry bombs. HAHAHA! This was a prank when my dad was in school not a "terrorist act" like it is now.

I thought we were all educated adults who went off facts. LMAO!!!! That will be the day!

And still more, they are reaching for straws here:
Obama also correctly said that President Bill Clinton had pardoned or commuted the sentences of two Weather Underground members, who had, unlike Ayers, been convicted and sentenced to long prison terms. Bill Clinton indeed pardoned one and commuted the sentence of another.

Obama visited Ayer's home in 1995 at the invitation of an Illinois state senator, according to a Feb. 22 story in Politico.com. But Politico concluded, "There’s no evidence their relationship is more than the casual friendship of two men who occupy overlapping Chicago political circles and who served together on the board of a Chicago foundation." And while we by no means defend or condone bombings of any kind, Clinton strained the facts to make Ayers' 1970s activities sound homicidal.

Here is some more:
In fact, nobody died as a result of bombings in which Ayers said he participated as part of the Weather Underground, at the New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, in a men's lavatory in the Capitol building in 1971 and in a women's restroom in the Pentagon in 1972. The deaths to which Clinton referred were of three Weather Underground members who died when their own "bomb factory" exploded in a Greenwich Village townhouse on March 6, 1970. Ayers was not present. Also, two police officers were murdered in connection with the robbery of a Brinks armored car by Weather Underground members in 1981. That was about a year after Ayers had turned himself in and after all charges a